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(ABC)   Two of Flight 370's communication systems were shut down separately, 14 minutes apart, indicating that it was done deliberately   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 320
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2014-03-13 07:30:29 PM  
The strangeness around the loss of communication, along with the fact that zero wreckage has been found, is making it sound more and more likely that this wasn't just a sudden drop out of the sky without warning. I was skeptical of the hijacking angle before, but it's sounding like a passenger or member of the flight crew did something really farked up.
 
2014-03-13 07:32:57 PM  
Could it not be possible that they were slowly losing power without realizing it? Maybe the systems that powered one of those went out before the other?

If it was terrorists, why has no one come forward to claim it? If they did land somewhere after being hijacked, why has no ransom been posted? No demands.

I do think this thing is somewhere in the ocean, but I can't imagine it was an act of terrorism. If it was just one lone hijacker trying to get taken somewhere, he wouldn't systematically have the planes systems shut down and then crash the thing... 

And why wait 14 minutes before turning the other one off? That's just silly. If you were taking over something you'd shut them both off at the same time.
 
2014-03-13 07:33:56 PM  
It doesn't make sense that the plane would shut down communications, change course a good 90 degrees, and fly out over the Indian Ocean for hours if it was just a suicide move by one of the pilots. If it was slow cabin decompression and it turned into a ghost plane, then why would the communication systems have been turned off? It's crazy, but if this latest info is correct, it's sounding like more of a Flight 93 situation.
 
2014-03-13 07:35:43 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: member of the flight crew did something really farked up.


hollywoodjournal.com

Bet it was really something...
 
2014-03-13 07:37:35 PM  

marius2: If it was terrorists, why has no one come forward to claim it?


Some possibilities:

A) The operation is still in progress.

B) The operation failed, but they're going to try it again and don't want the heat on them.

C) The operation failed, and they don't want to take credit for a failure and/or don't want hell to rain down on them over a mission that didn't succeed.
 
2014-03-13 07:51:03 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: marius2: If it was terrorists, why has no one come forward to claim it?

Some possibilities:

A) The operation is still in progress.

B) The operation failed, but they're going to try it again and don't want the heat on them.


Possibly

C) The operation failed, and they don't want to take credit for a failure and/or don't want hell to rain down on them over a mission that didn't succeed.

Not a chance. This is an international tragedy at this point, People are hooked on this, if Al Queda came forward and said "We crashed the plane into the ocean because of the West blah blah blah blah blah" it would be a major victory for them, It wouldn't hinder or help them in any way if they were going to try it again. They found the loophole, they didn't have to reveal the loophole, they just take responsibility. They can still use that same loophole.
 
2014-03-13 07:56:07 PM  
The part that I still question is a plane flying over the Straits of Malacca where about 25% of all tonnage in shipping in the world passes through and is a strategic location that for some unknown reason with countless satellites encompassing the earth the US does not have any images of the area,  location and flight path of the plane. Where is the US watching if not that area or at least be able to review images if it is not monitored in real time?
 
2014-03-13 08:00:18 PM  
Watching surface traffic is not the same as watching aircraft.
 
2014-03-13 08:46:04 PM  
It was aliens that done it.

i98.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-13 08:59:33 PM  

eurotrader: The part that I still question is a plane flying over the Straits of Malacca where about 25% of all tonnage in shipping in the world passes through and is a strategic location that for some unknown reason with countless satellites encompassing the earth the US does not have any images of the area,  location and flight path of the plane. Where is the US watching if not that area or at least be able to review images if it is not monitored in real time?


Here is a real time photograph of the flight of MA 370.

i236.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-13 09:12:11 PM  
The "facts" change so often you can't tell what the heck is going on.
 
2014-03-13 09:15:40 PM  

eurotrader: The part that I still question is a plane flying over the Straits of Malacca where about 25% of all tonnage in shipping in the world passes through and is a strategic location that for some unknown reason with countless satellites encompassing the earth the US does not have any images of the area,  location and flight path of the plane. Where is the US watching if not that area or at least be able to review images if it is not monitored in real time?


That's a very interesting point that you make.

Did you realize that the plane took off and was expected to land  AT NIGHT???

Photographic images don't work very well... AT NIGHT!!!

Just saw  Eddie Adams from Torrence's post... yeah... that's pretty much it.

/moron
 
2014-03-13 09:17:52 PM  
There is a thing called "fire"- investigators may not aware of it since it's a relatively new development- that has been known to cause progressive failure of aircraft systems.

In other words, if those systems going off at different times is their only evidence, then these guys would have decided that the Columbia pilots climbed into the wing and manually turned off the four or five sensors that failed one after another over a period of several minutes as the heat of reentry burned its way into the wing.
 
2014-03-13 09:28:06 PM  
the missing Malaysian flight continued to "ping" a satellite on an hourly basis

groundedbirthdoulas.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-13 09:33:42 PM  
shower_in_my_socks: It doesn't make sense that the plane would shut down communications, change course a good 90 degrees, and fly out over the Indian Ocean for hours if it was just a suicide move by one of the pilots.

Suicide, especially in this manner, is a crazy action. If suicide occurred here, don't expect everything to make perfect sense.
 
2014-03-13 09:34:23 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: The strangeness around the loss of communication, along with the fact that zero wreckage has been found, is making it sound more and more likely that this wasn't just a sudden drop out of the sky without warning. I was skeptical of the hijacking angle before, but it's sounding like a passenger or member of the flight crew did something really farked up.


If the plane fell out of the sky from a high altitude, the wreckage would be easier to find.
 
2014-03-13 09:35:44 PM  
Sweet!  The other 50 threads were getting boring!
 
2014-03-13 09:35:52 PM  
Are we still all counting on them?
 
2014-03-13 09:36:10 PM  
There are only two possibilities:

The plane was hijacked, and then crashed.
OR
The plane suffered a catastrophic systems failure and then crashed.

Either way, it never made it to a hostile OR a friendly country--it never made it back over land, because transponders off or not, it would have been picked up on surface radar when it crossed back into someone's airspace. Regardless of whether it was hijacked or not--it HAS crashed, and everyone is dead, so they need to find what's left. And even if it was hijacked and nobody is claiming it for some reason, clearly the hijackers' base organization has no notion of where it is either--another reason why they might not want to take credit for it, knowing everyone will be all over them demanding a flight plan.
 
2014-03-13 09:37:39 PM  

Nick Nostril: Are we still all counting on them?


The presidents daughter s'been kidnapped.  It's up to us.
 
2014-03-13 09:38:09 PM  
Other than the fact that it's missing, has any reported item held up more than 24 hours?
 
2014-03-13 09:38:32 PM  
It's a horrible thing to say, but I hope they never find this farkin' plane. The mystery is just too much fun.

/soured by empathy for the victims, though..
 
2014-03-13 09:39:18 PM  
Or the circuit breakers blew independently due to electrical faults over that period of time. They don't put redundant systems on the same circuit breaker.
 
2014-03-13 09:39:22 PM  
What small island in the Indian Ocean could accommodate landing a 777?
 
2014-03-13 09:39:32 PM  
Or that the systems died at separate points in time...
 
2014-03-13 09:39:45 PM  
Can we have a Zimmerman thread to break up the monotony around here?
 
2014-03-13 09:39:56 PM  
It's been painfully obvious to me since I first heard about this whole story that the plane was taken by terrorists. Why do journalists keep gasping every time something new is discovered??
 
2014-03-13 09:41:37 PM  
Shades of SilkAir 185 and EgyptAir 990... Both alleged pilot suicides. Still, there's no way to know definitively at this point. For now, the priority should be: FIND THE PLANE. Which is easier said than done...
 
2014-03-13 09:41:47 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: What small island in the Indian Ocean could accommodate landing a 777?


If you believe in conspiracies...
 
2014-03-13 09:42:24 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: What island in the Indian Ocean could accommodate landing a 777?


Subby's mom?

/am I doing this right?
 
2014-03-13 09:42:50 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: eurotrader: The part that I still question is a plane flying over the Straits of Malacca where about 25% of all tonnage in shipping in the world passes through and is a strategic location that for some unknown reason with countless satellites encompassing the earth the US does not have any images of the area,  location and flight path of the plane. Where is the US watching if not that area or at least be able to review images if it is not monitored in real time?

Here is a real time photograph of the flight of MA 370.

[i236.photobucket.com image 400x400]


I've taken the time to digitally enhance your photo to bring out the details in hopes we can maybe get a better view

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-13 09:44:19 PM  
Airplane missing! (CLICK ME!)

Airplane still missing! It's scary, like those 70s movies! (CLICK ME, DAMMIT)

Airplane missing, and we don't have a clue! (CLICK ME!)

Hey! We found that missing airplane, we think! (CLICK ME!)

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OMG! Passports! Terrists? (CLICK, BABY, CLICK!)

Isn't it weird that nobody in America is affected at all by this missing airplane on the other side of the world, yet you all keep clicking in terror? (CLICK-A-MUNDO!)

It's been a week since that airplane went missing. Shouldn't you have a week-a-versary click to respect the dead? (CLICK IT! CLICK IT GOOD!)
 
2014-03-13 09:44:23 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: What small island in the Indian Ocean could accommodate landing a 777?


Diego Garcia is a designated emergency landing site for airliners

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-03-13 09:44:34 PM  

vossiewulf: There is a thing called "fire"- investigators may not aware of it since it's a relatively new development- that has been known to cause progressive failure of aircraft systems.


But they had 14 minutes to report a problem before the second system failed.
 
2014-03-13 09:44:40 PM  

Mentalpatient87: It's a horrible thing to say, but I hope they never find this farkin' plane. The mystery is just too much fun.

/soured by empathy for the victims, though..


and the passengers turn up 20 years later .. AND THEY HAVEN'T AGED!!!
 
2014-03-13 09:46:43 PM  

Gyrfalcon: There are only two possibilities:

The plane was hijacked, and then crashed.
OR
The plane suffered a catastrophic systems failure and then crashed.

Either way, it never made it to a hostile OR a friendly country--it never made it back over land, because transponders off or not, it would have been picked up on surface radar when it crossed back into someone's airspace. Regardless of whether it was hijacked or not--it HAS crashed, and everyone is dead, so they need to find what's left. And even if it was hijacked and nobody is claiming it for some reason, clearly the hijackers' base organization has no notion of where it is either--another reason why they might not want to take credit for it, knowing everyone will be all over them demanding a flight plan.



If it crashed in water, why aren't the black boxes pinging, as they're designed to do upon contact with water?  Same goes for the transmitter that goes off on a land crash.

IMHO, it's been hijacked - possibly by the same Chinese cult that pulled that knife massacre recently - and it's sitting on a runway somewhere.  The Chinese may have already been contacted, but NONE of the countries involved wish to "lose face" at this point, so they're all keeping mum.

Chinese Muslims????
 
2014-03-13 09:46:45 PM  

marius2: shower_in_my_socks: marius2: If it was terrorists, why has no one come forward to claim it?

Some possibilities:

A) The operation is still in progress.

B) The operation failed, but they're going to try it again and don't want the heat on them.

Possibly

C) The operation failed, and they don't want to take credit for a failure and/or don't want hell to rain down on them over a mission that didn't succeed.

Not a chance. This is an international tragedy at this point, People are hooked on this, if Al Queda came forward and said "We crashed the plane into the ocean because of the West blah blah blah blah blah" it would be a major victory for them, It wouldn't hinder or help them in any way if they were going to try it again. They found the loophole, they didn't have to reveal the loophole, they just take responsibility. They can still use that same loophole.


Perhaps the reason no terror group has taken responsibility is because it wasn't a terror group--it was a state actor, like Iran, and they don't want anyone to know.
 
2014-03-13 09:49:56 PM  

StopLurkListen: Other than the fact that it's missing, has any reported item held up more than 24 hours?


Of course.  It left Kuala Lumpur and now they can't find it.  Duh!
 
2014-03-13 09:50:12 PM  

Gyrfalcon: There are only two possibilities:

The plane was hijacked, and then crashed.
OR
The plane suffered a catastrophic systems failure and then crashed.

Either way, it never made it to a hostile OR a friendly country--it never made it back over land, because transponders off or not, it would have been picked up on surface radar when it crossed back into someone's airspace. Regardless of whether it was hijacked or not--it HAS crashed, and everyone is dead, so they need to find what's left. And even if it was hijacked and nobody is claiming it for some reason, clearly the hijackers' base organization has no notion of where it is either--another reason why they might not want to take credit for it, knowing everyone will be all over them demanding a flight plan.


There are two other possibilities: pilot error, and pilot suicide.
 
2014-03-13 09:51:19 PM  
Am I the only person that thinks this just raises more questions than it answers?

We won't know anything until they get the box. Which at this point could take months or years.
 
2014-03-13 09:51:35 PM  
This may have been mentioned before....but like the EgyptAir suicide (mechanical failure if you believe the Egyptian authorities, despite the guy yelling "Allahu Akbar" all the way down to the ocean impact).....one of the two pilots waits for the other one to head for the bathroom, locks the cabin door, turns off the transponders, then he's free to do whatever he wants until the fuel runs out.
 
2014-03-13 09:52:11 PM  

Pimparoo: Gyrfalcon: There are only two possibilities:

The plane was hijacked, and then crashed.
OR
The plane suffered a catastrophic systems failure and then crashed.

Either way, it never made it to a hostile OR a friendly country--it never made it back over land, because transponders off or not, it would have been picked up on surface radar when it crossed back into someone's airspace. Regardless of whether it was hijacked or not--it HAS crashed, and everyone is dead, so they need to find what's left. And even if it was hijacked and nobody is claiming it for some reason, clearly the hijackers' base organization has no notion of where it is either--another reason why they might not want to take credit for it, knowing everyone will be all over them demanding a flight plan.

There are two other possibilities: pilot error, and pilot suicide.


I'm going with pilot suicide given the allegations about him having hoochies in the cockpit, maybe something else was about to be brought against him.
 
2014-03-13 09:53:10 PM  
I've often wondered why planes do not have separately-powered real-time tracking systems embedded in a location that cannot be easily tampered with while in flight.  I can perhaps accept that we presently do not have enough satellite bandwidth for airlines to be able to equip fleets of planes with continuous black-box-style transmitters but something as simple as a periodic data packet consisting of GPS location, heading and altitude broadcast, say, every 60 seconds doesn't require much bandwidth.
 
2014-03-13 09:53:49 PM  
There are only 2 things that could have happened.

1) Aliens

2) Zombies
 
2014-03-13 09:54:07 PM  

jaytkay: The Googles Do Nothing: What small island in the Indian Ocean could accommodate landing a 777?

Diego Garcia is a designated emergency landing site for airliners

[upload.wikimedia.org image 488x487]


It's also crawling with Americans and Brits.  Our militaries aren't that clueless.
 
2014-03-13 09:55:47 PM  

MrSplifferton: There are only 2 things that could have happened.

1) Aliens

2) Zombies


You forgot:

3) Snakes
 
2014-03-13 09:56:22 PM  

jaytkay: The Googles Do Nothing: What small island in the Indian Ocean could accommodate landing a 777?

Diego Garcia is a designated emergency landing site for airliners

[upload.wikimedia.org image 488x487]



And the passengers quietly secreted away, summarily executed and the plane re-purposed for an Operation Northwoods attack on US soil.

\tinfoil on.
 
2014-03-13 09:56:30 PM  

jaytkay: The Googles Do Nothing: What small island in the Indian Ocean could accommodate landing a 777?

Diego Garcia is a designated emergency landing site for airliners

[upload.wikimedia.org image 488x487]


If it turns out their 777 has been chilling on Diego Garcia this whole time, this would become the greatest story OF ALL TIME.
 
2014-03-13 09:56:58 PM  

The Googles Do Nothing: What small island in the Indian Ocean could accommodate landing a 777?


They have 18 nuclear missiles, and they're too busy playing Kwispy Kwupcakes.
 
2014-03-13 09:57:30 PM  
The medias chronic masturbation on this whole thing, is so lame.

Real news is happening, people are dieing fighting for their freedom from oppression, yet no one is allowed to see it, because the media is masturbating over a shiat-hole airplane that lost cabin pressure and flew away to its eventual death, just like that Kennedy plane.
 
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