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(Variety)   Time Warner is raising rates again. But don't worry CEO Rob Marcus promises a new more efficient system for raising rates after the Comcast merger   (variety.com) divider line 24
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2014-03-13 09:36:31 PM  
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I think I now know what the face of rapacious evil looks like.
 
2014-03-13 10:15:23 PM  
But he said TW Cable is moving to a more "customer friendly" approach to implementing cost increases: Whereas triple-play customers could see three different rate hikes at different times of the year for video, broadband and voice, the MSO will now raise a customer's bill once per year. "It's more customer friendly, and it's easier for us to manage," Marcus maintained.

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2014-03-13 10:29:29 PM  
They own our asses.

They charge us more, so they can buy more politicians, who will then allow them to reinforce their monopolies while also charging us more.

It's the circle of American Life.
 
2014-03-13 10:30:15 PM  
Every carrier raises rates every year.  Things get more expensive.  The idea that this will somehow hasten that is ridiculous.   The idea that it will mean less choices for consumers is also ridiculous.  Comcast and TWC maybe compete over 3 dozen subscribers in the whole country.

What Franken and everyone should do,  is use the leverage they have in approving this deal to bargain for things like network neutrality and  not allowing data caps.  But they won't.  The government will focus on something idiotic like rural broadband.  (If you live in the sticks,  you made the choice.   There are tradeoffs)

And of course broadcasters are against it.  The networks went and fought to have the must carry rules revoked,  and have since been doubling and tripling their fees at every negotiation.  The Comcast/TWC merger will give them less negotiating power,  to resell something that is free over the air.
 
2014-03-13 10:32:00 PM  
Look we're bundling your rate hikes. We're doing this for you.
 
2014-03-13 11:24:57 PM  
Of course, a good chunk of this is probably going to ESPN and other popular channels who keep raising the rates they charge the cable company, so despite the general evilness of cable companies they aren't the only ones to blame.
 
2014-03-13 11:32:18 PM  
 So a corporation pushed a monopoly through our bought out regulatory agency and then commenced to jack up their rates. As if no one saw that coming. Seriously it's not like we didn't realize these assholes were lying from the get go by virtue of them opening their mouths.
People should probably stop watching tv anyway.
 
2014-03-13 11:58:24 PM  
Why is it that they don't compete? Are they not allowed to or do they have some sort of agreement not to go after each other's customers?
 
2014-03-14 12:07:36 AM  
I'm glad I cut the cord a few years back. I don't miss commercials, I don't miss paying obscene amounts of money every month so I can find nothing worth watching, the constant badgering to upgrade or add tiers...I really, really like not having to deal with a cable company.

The only thing I miss is the NFL. If the NFL could come up with some sort of streaming season ticket thing, I'd happily pay for that. I imagine for sports, a lot of people would sign up for a streaming version of Sunday Ticket/League Pass/whatever for their favorite sport.
 
2014-03-14 12:48:25 AM  
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2014-03-14 01:11:00 AM  
Let me know when they offer service half as fast or reliable as the service in suburban Korea.

My city is implementing city-wide municipal fiber this summer. I'm in "zone 1" for the rollout. Goodbye forever, Comcast!
 
2014-03-14 02:02:36 AM  

Target Builder: Why is it that they don't compete? Are they not allowed to or do they have some sort of agreement not to go after each other's customers?


I believe it's the latter. In most cases there's a county or municipality "franchise agreement" that locks in one or the other as the sole cable TV provider in the area, and even in places where there is no limiting agreement with the government they have made backroom agreements not to compete.
 
2014-03-14 02:03:25 AM  
Also I am dumb and didn't fully think that out and realize that my answer was more like both than just the latter. I stand by everything except the first sentence, though.
 
2014-03-14 02:10:59 AM  

Thats_right_ALL_the_tea: Target Builder: Why is it that they don't compete? Are they not allowed to or do they have some sort of agreement not to go after each other's customers?

I believe it's the latter. In most cases there's a county or municipality "franchise agreement" that locks in one or the other as the sole cable TV provider in the area, and even in places where there is no limiting agreement with the government they have made backroom agreements not to compete.


Laying cable to the curb is expensive, so the cable companies generally stay off each other's turf because it is more profitable not to compete. They'd basically expend a lot of capital only to start a price war that would leave them with less revenue coming in, so it would be a lose-lose.
 
2014-03-14 02:12:35 AM  

Poorlytoldjoke: If you live in the sticks, you made the choice. There are tradeoffs


Some of us have respiratory issues and farther distance from the pollution makes it more bearable.

Anywho, this sucks. I just moved and signed up for the 'Extreme' or whatever the fark it's called, and while I have seen some much better download speeds than I'm used to, average web usage is about the same speed it's been for nearly a decade. Yaaaay so glad I'm paying about $30 more for similar performance, generally speaking. Netflix and other streaming video still has plenty of buffering issues as well. My father was so annoyed he booted them to the curb completely, which was a surprise. Just hope he doesn't get screwed on his new choices...
 
2014-03-14 04:03:11 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Laying cable to the curb is expensive, so the cable companies generally stay off each other's turf because it is more profitable not to compete. They'd basically expend a lot of capital only to start a price war that would leave them with less revenue coming in, so it would be a lose-lose.


Laying cable is expensive, but so is running a cable company.  If they're actually making agreements with other cable companies not to compete on the same turf in order to keep prices artificially high then that sounds illegal to me.  IANAL, but I think it's called collusion.

A friend of mine lives right outside the city limits.  It looks like the same city.  The only reason I know he's outside the city limits is because he has some very small cable company I had never heard of.

Why doesn't Comcast take over his neighborhood?  Why doesn't his cable company expand to serve the city?

Oh wait, no.  It's because the city has a franchise agreement with Comcast.  I'm glad I looked that up.  It expires in 11 months.  The city's website already has a "timeline" which indicates it will renew the agreement as if it's a foregone conclusion.

For some reason, people seem to me much more concerned about a proposal to have grocery stores charge 5 cents for a plastic bag (which we already voted down once), but paying exorbitant fees for shiatty service with Comcast is not even on anybody's radar except for the people in City Hall.
 
2014-03-14 06:20:23 AM  

TomD9938:


Yeah, every Comcast/TWC thread turns into a cord cutting thread. Anyone near a city should get an antenna, and anyone far from a city or in a valley should get a 1-meter FTA satellite dish. True, you won't get to watch Extreme Cake Storage Pawn Fishing any more, but you'll still have somethimg to watch, or you can get your ass of the couch once in a while.
 
2014-03-14 06:56:42 AM  

Target Builder: Why is it that they don't compete? Are they not allowed to or do they have some sort of agreement not to go after each other's customers?


Thats_right_ALL_the_tea: believe it's the latter. In most cases there's a county or municipality "franchise agreement" that locks in one or the other as the sole cable TV provider in the area, and even in places where there is no limiting agreement with the government they have made backroom agreements not to compete.


The latter is incorrect.  Since the Telecommunications Act of 1996, it's illegal for a city to have an "exclusive franchise agreement" with a cable company.   Wrapped up with the first Dot-Com bubble, there were companies called 'overbuilders'.  Most of them went very broke, very fast.  It's a lot of money to lay an entire new cable system, and you're unlikely to get more than 20% of the market any time soon.  There are a few places with overbuild systems today. That same deregulation was, however, what allowed Verizon Fios and AT&T U-Verse to offer multichannel video.

Now, just because it's illegal to have an exclusive franchise agreement, doesn't mean that cities have to make it easy for a competitor.  The old incumbent (or whoever bought them) has a lot of grandfathered locations for poles and all.  A competitor may not get the same kind of access.  Also, most franchise agreements have 'universal service' requirements.  So, overbuilders wouldn't be allowed to cherry pick high-demand/easier-to-serve neighborhoods (this is something that the cities with Google Fiber have let slide, making the incumbent cable companies howl).

Anyway, If you want to keep out an overbuilder, just say "you have to serve any address in our large-ish city, and you have to do it within 3 months of signing the agreement".  Which is pretty much impossible.  I'll give you one guess to figure out who lobbies for just such a model franchise agreement.
 
2014-03-14 09:09:02 AM  
This is the third time this year they raised rates in this part of NC. The joys of being the only company in the region and having the State Assembly in their pocket almost as much as Duke power does.
 
2014-03-14 09:20:27 AM  
I just got my TWC rate increase notice, along with my current bill. What pisses me off is, it means I have to call TWC again and tell them they aren't providing me any service, that I have Google Fiber, which is now $15 a month cheaper for faster internet, more TV channels, and a gazillion googolbytes of network storage.
So they'll credit the bill, claim I'm still a customer, and tell customers in Austin and Provo that no one left TWC in Kansas City, and if anyone did, he came crawling back to TWC after just a few weeks because TWC is awesome and Google Fiber is a failure.
Don't believe those liars.
 
2014-03-14 09:30:36 AM  
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2014-03-14 10:16:42 AM  

rumpelstiltskin: I just got my TWC rate increase notice, along with my current bill. What pisses me off is, it means I have to call TWC again and tell them they aren't providing me any service, that I have Google Fiber, which is now $15 a month cheaper for faster internet, more TV channels, and a gazillion googolbytes of network storage.
So they'll credit the bill, claim I'm still a customer, and tell customers in Austin and Provo that no one left TWC in Kansas City, and if anyone did, he came crawling back to TWC after just a few weeks because TWC is awesome and Google Fiber is a failure.
Don't believe those liars.


I just found out yesterday that Google Fiber will be starting construction in my neighborhood in less than a month.  When I read this headline, I was actually happy, because I thought "Hey, I don't have to care about this anymore!"
 
2014-03-15 03:58:13 AM  

Lawnchair: Target Builder: Why is it that they don't compete? Are they not allowed to or do they have some sort of agreement not to go after each other's customers?

Thats_right_ALL_the_tea: believe it's the latter. In most cases there's a county or municipality "franchise agreement" that locks in one or the other as the sole cable TV provider in the area, and even in places where there is no limiting agreement with the government they have made backroom agreements not to compete.

The latter is incorrect.  Since the Telecommunications Act of 1996, it's illegal for a city to have an "exclusive franchise agreement" with a cable company.   Wrapped up with the first Dot-Com bubble, there were companies called 'overbuilders'.  Most of them went very broke, very fast.  It's a lot of money to lay an entire new cable system, and you're unlikely to get more than 20% of the market any time soon.  There are a few places with overbuild systems today. That same deregulation was, however, what allowed Verizon Fios and AT&T U-Verse to offer multichannel video.

Now, just because it's illegal to have an exclusive franchise agreement, doesn't mean that cities have to make it easy for a competitor.  The old incumbent (or whoever bought them) has a lot of grandfathered locations for poles and all.  A competitor may not get the same kind of access.  Also, most franchise agreements have 'universal service' requirements.   So, overbuilders wouldn't be allowed to cherry pick high-demand/easier-to-serve neighborhoods (this is something that the cities with Google Fiber have let slide, making the incumbent cable companies howl).


I have no issue with this. Fuk the current incumbents. Those dick bags can go suck on some razorblades and hopefully they will finally get a taste of their own medicine.
 
2014-03-15 01:25:14 PM  
You keep creating monopolies, we'll keep creating alternatives to your douchebaggery. Fark the farking farkers is what I always say.

/ hasn't had TW for 12 years now
// never going back
 
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