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(Huffington Post UK)   Forget about all those crazy theories of what happened to the missing Malaysian Airlines flight, this student knows what happened   (huffingtonpost.co.uk) divider line 181
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2014-03-13 07:41:41 PM

Lydia_C: shastacola: cfletch13: shastacola: centrifugal bumblepuppy: ABC reports that the two communication systems, ACARS and transponder, were shut down 15 minutes apart.

Sounds deliberate.

An expert on CNN is flat out saying it can't be an accident.

If he was any credible expert, he would be saying that no one can determine that at this stage.  Unfortunately, cable news channel producers and viewers like definitive answers. But there are not any... yet.

Actually his comment was in regard to the communication systems being shut off 15 minutes apart. He said that would be impossible. His name was John Nance,he's supposedly an aviation expert.


Are you sure you heard him correctly? In this article, Nance suggests that the time separation between the shutdowns of the data reporting system and the transponder is an indication of a deliberate act, i.e., not an accident.


There's still a possibility of electrical fire getting progressively worse and effecting avionics, too... which would explain the gap in between the communication systems shutting down and no "Pan Pan Pan" call.

If it was a hijacker, I'd suspect the transponder would be shut off first like on 9/11.  ACARS won't really help you escape being tracked.  And even so, why 15 minutes later?  Maybe they had to stop and read the manual?

I still don't think there's enough evidence to draw any conclusions yet.
 
2014-03-13 07:42:04 PM
Looks like I picked the wrong Friday to make predictions about missing aircraft.
 
2014-03-13 07:42:53 PM
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2014-03-13 07:44:12 PM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: They would have triangulated the phones and found them in minutes.


dungeoncrawler.mymiddleearth.com
 
2014-03-13 07:44:57 PM

cfletch13: Lydia_C: shastacola: cfletch13: shastacola: centrifugal bumblepuppy: ABC reports that the two communication systems, ACARS and transponder, were shut down 15 minutes apart.

Sounds deliberate.

An expert on CNN is flat out saying it can't be an accident.

If he was any credible expert, he would be saying that no one can determine that at this stage.  Unfortunately, cable news channel producers and viewers like definitive answers. But there are not any... yet.

Actually his comment was in regard to the communication systems being shut off 15 minutes apart. He said that would be impossible. His name was John Nance,he's supposedly an aviation expert.


Are you sure you heard him correctly? In this article, Nance suggests that the time separation between the shutdowns of the data reporting system and the transponder is an indication of a deliberate act, i.e., not an accident.

There's still a possibility of electrical fire getting progressively worse and effecting avionics, too... which would explain the gap in between the communication systems shutting down and no "Pan Pan Pan" call.

If it was a hijacker, I'd suspect the transponder would be shut off first like on 9/11.  ACARS won't really help you escape being tracked.  And even so, why 15 minutes later?  Maybe they had to stop and read the manual?

I still don't think there's enough evidence to draw any conclusions yet.


No one will know what happened until they find the plane. I'm just reporting what Nance thinks.
 
2014-03-13 07:44:58 PM

starlost: cretinbob:

i just want to thank you for the payne stewart.i guess it went over everyone's head.


I keep seeing that name in these threads, so I finally looked it up. The article mentions several other known, similar situations. I know nothing about aviation, but on the surface it seems plausible for this plane too.
 
2014-03-13 07:45:03 PM
Meow, don't be a tease.
 
2014-03-13 07:46:52 PM

DigitalCoffee: My theory is that S.P.E.C.T.R.E. is behind the disappearances and that we should all be looking for a fake volcano.


"Hello, Mr. Bond.  We've been expecting you."
 
2014-03-13 07:47:16 PM

starlost: cretinbob:

i just want to thank you for the payne stewart.i guess it went over everyone's head.


cf.chucklesnetwork.com
 
2014-03-13 07:47:17 PM

Perducci: Aude also has an explanation for the ringing phones, saying: "If the plane flew over or near land, then cellular connectivity is still possible."

If his understanding of aeronautics is as bad as his understanding of cellular technology (or even just Plain Old Telephone Service), then I wouldn't hold my breath that his theory is correct. Just because a phone seems to be ringing on the caller's end doesn't mean that the device is actually ringing, or even being reached.


But his dad is a pilot, and he considered studying aerospace engineering.
 
2014-03-13 07:48:53 PM

Whatchoo Talkinbout: College kid hits the target before the experts?

Now that's a theory I like.


Decompression is usually in like the top five for what you assume happened without knowing anything else. It's not novel at all but more like an automatic assumption. Like when you investigate a murder the first suspect is the spouse just by default. It's not like some rookie detective comes along and says, "Ah ha! Maybe his wife did it! Bet you didn't see that coming."
 
2014-03-13 07:49:06 PM
Here's the latest inside scoop: the Ajax maintenance crew forgot to lube the fetzer valve with 3-in-1 oil and gauze.

/ball bearings
 
2014-03-13 07:49:20 PM

Mark Ratner: It was probably the ball bearings. It's all about ball bearings these days.


They didn't clean the muck off the window.
 
2014-03-13 07:49:29 PM

shastacola: cfletch13: Lydia_C: shastacola: cfletch13: shastacola: centrifugal bumblepuppy: ABC reports that the two communication systems, ACARS and transponder, were shut down 15 minutes apart.

Sounds deliberate.

An expert on CNN is flat out saying it can't be an accident.

If he was any credible expert, he would be saying that no one can determine that at this stage.  Unfortunately, cable news channel producers and viewers like definitive answers. But there are not any... yet.

Actually his comment was in regard to the communication systems being shut off 15 minutes apart. He said that would be impossible. His name was John Nance,he's supposedly an aviation expert.


Are you sure you heard him correctly? In this article, Nance suggests that the time separation between the shutdowns of the data reporting system and the transponder is an indication of a deliberate act, i.e., not an accident.

There's still a possibility of electrical fire getting progressively worse and effecting avionics, too... which would explain the gap in between the communication systems shutting down and no "Pan Pan Pan" call.

If it was a hijacker, I'd suspect the transponder would be shut off first like on 9/11.  ACARS won't really help you escape being tracked.  And even so, why 15 minutes later?  Maybe they had to stop and read the manual?

I still don't think there's enough evidence to draw any conclusions yet.

No one will know what happened until they find the plane. I'm just reporting what Nance thinks.


NO!  IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT WHAT NANCE THINKS!
 
2014-03-13 07:53:01 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-13 07:53:02 PM

Opacity: Here's the latest inside scoop: the Ajax maintenance crew forgot to lube the fetzer valve with 3-in-1 oil and gauze.

/ball bearings


Someone doesn't know the difference between Oxygen and Nitrogen bottles.
 
2014-03-13 07:54:07 PM
Maybe they went to visit Emilia?
 
2014-03-13 07:54:13 PM

cfletch13: shastacola: cfletch13: Lydia_C: shastacola: cfletch13: shastacola: centrifugal bumblepuppy: ABC reports that the two communication systems, ACARS and transponder, were shut down 15 minutes apart.

Sounds deliberate.

An expert on CNN is flat out saying it can't be an accident.

If he was any credible expert, he would be saying that no one can determine that at this stage.  Unfortunately, cable news channel producers and viewers like definitive answers. But there are not any... yet.

Actually his comment was in regard to the communication systems being shut off 15 minutes apart. He said that would be impossible. His name was John Nance,he's supposedly an aviation expert.


Are you sure you heard him correctly? In this article, Nance suggests that the time separation between the shutdowns of the data reporting system and the transponder is an indication of a deliberate act, i.e., not an accident.

There's still a possibility of electrical fire getting progressively worse and effecting avionics, too... which would explain the gap in between the communication systems shutting down and no "Pan Pan Pan" call.

If it was a hijacker, I'd suspect the transponder would be shut off first like on 9/11.  ACARS won't really help you escape being tracked.  And even so, why 15 minutes later?  Maybe they had to stop and read the manual?

I still don't think there's enough evidence to draw any conclusions yet.

No one will know what happened until they find the plane. I'm just reporting what Nance thinks.

NO!  IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT WHAT NANCE THINKS!


I tried to talk him down,man.
 
2014-03-13 07:58:19 PM

shastacola: Lydia_C: shastacola: cfletch13: shastacola: centrifugal bumblepuppy: ABC reports that the two communication systems, ACARS and transponder, were shut down 15 minutes apart.

Sounds deliberate.

An expert on CNN is flat out saying it can't be an accident.

If he was any credible expert, he would be saying that no one can determine that at this stage.  Unfortunately, cable news channel producers and viewers like definitive answers. But there are not any... yet.

Actually his comment was in regard to the communication systems being shut off 15 minutes apart. He said that would be impossible. His name was John Nance,he's supposedly an aviation expert.


Are you sure you heard him correctly? In this article, Nance suggests that the time separation between the shutdowns of the data reporting system and the transponder is an indication of a deliberate act, i.e., not an accident.

That's what I said,he said it can't be an accident,it was a  deliberate shutdown of the communication systems.



Sorry, I misunderstood you to be saying that Nance said it was impossible for the plane's communications to shut down in the way they apparently did.

And now I can't stop thinking of this Nance:

upload.wikimedia.org

/the clouds are not what they seem
 
2014-03-13 07:58:23 PM

Pimparoo: Or, its communications systems were systematically shut down, and the plane is now in the Indian Ocean:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/malaysia-airliner-pinging-indica ti on-crashed-indian-ocean/story?id=22894802


I love this plan. I'm excited about it. Let's do this!

Makes sense. They haven't found any debris in the water where they lost contact. If it's true that the engines continued to run for 3 or 4 hours after losing contact it should have shown up over land at some point if it continued north/northeast. It never showed up on radar over Vietnam and obviously didn't reach it's destination so it was likely diverted away from land. They think the plane might have changed course and turned west so yeah, go look in the Indian Ocean a bit.
 
2014-03-13 08:02:14 PM
Oh,Oh, I know... the plane went back in time to kill Lincoln. Fartbama and his time machine strikes again.
 
2014-03-13 08:09:28 PM

MechaPyx: If it's true that the engines continued to run for 3 or 4 hours after losing contact...



How do they know this?  Like, what technology allows them to know the engines are running, but doesn't do anything to help them locate the plane?
 
2014-03-13 08:17:16 PM
Minnesota voters, God bless their souls, elected Michele Bachmann and doomed the flight.
 
2014-03-13 08:18:12 PM

FizixJunkee: MechaPyx: If it's true that the engines continued to run for 3 or 4 hours after losing contact...


How do they know this?  Like, what technology allows them to know the engines are running, but doesn't do anything to help them locate the plane?


They don't know it. Some retard on tumblr read the timestamps wrong yesterday. It's already been categorically debunked by Boeing.

bjmendelson.com
 
2014-03-13 08:19:15 PM
Right or wrong, at least he understands how radar works.

As in, all planes are not magically "on radar" from wheels up to wheels down.
 
2014-03-13 08:19:59 PM

FizixJunkee: MechaPyx: If it's true that the engines continued to run for 3 or 4 hours after losing contact...


How do they know this?  Like, what technology allows them to know the engines are running, but doesn't do anything to help them locate the plane?


Most likely an ACARS-type of technology.  It submits performance and usage data and is usually transmitted through radio signals.  Some manufacturers have their own system, and I think the one the article is referring to is the one managed by Rolls-Royce.  It doesn't transfer location data, though.  Only the number of engine hours, cycles, and other usage data.
 
2014-03-13 08:20:11 PM

FizixJunkee: MechaPyx: If it's true that the engines continued to run for 3 or 4 hours after losing contact...


How do they know this?  Like, what technology allows them to know the engines are running, but doesn't do anything to help them locate the plane?


The same technology that allowed them to build the plane. The plane is now located on an Asian airport.
 
2014-03-13 08:20:36 PM
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www.reactionface.info
 
2014-03-13 08:23:36 PM
So his theory is decompression?  Must have been reading my posts.  Now we both have the blood of these people on our hands.  That is how it works, right?
 
2014-03-13 08:24:06 PM
In any event, point still stands radar never picked up the plane to the north and they're not having any luck checking the water north/northeast so might as well look in that other body of water to the west.
 
2014-03-13 08:32:03 PM
So what kind of bulls*** are you guys picking up on Huffpost?

I doubt he was the first to get that theory out. Even experts on Canadian TV mentioned the antenna corrosion problem on 777s on the first days.
 
2014-03-13 08:33:07 PM
I mean, the thing is, you can't not prove him not incorrect or otherwise.  Besides, there's only one man who knows what happened to that flight, and I'm not talking until I get a paid interview scheduled with Oprah or that crazy chick on CNN.
 
2014-03-13 08:33:59 PM

antidisestablishmentarianism: I don't see how this explains the engines being on for 4 hours after communication was lost.


autopilot.
 
2014-03-13 08:42:21 PM

DigitalCoffee: My theory is that S.P.E.C.T.R.E. is behind the disappearances and that we should all be looking for a fake volcano.


Nah, if it had been kidnapped by a gang of leather-clad female ninjas, Pussy Galore would have shown up by now to take control of the situation.
 
2014-03-13 08:53:53 PM
No one has asked to me what has happened but it is known of me.

Ohh goody it's scarebus again.

STFU.
 
2014-03-13 08:59:37 PM
Found a pretty good summarization of the misinformation out there.  It's worth a read:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/13/malaysia-airlines-fligh t- mh370-media-claims
 
2014-03-13 09:00:18 PM
They need to find this thing soon, or at least pieces of it or we have a problem.

My theory.  A crew member (or two) took control, shut the systems down that they could and flew to a preplanned remote destination across the Indian Ocean.  With assistance of waiting accomplices, the rest of the crew and passengers were removed and executed.  Have been removed and replaced with a big bomb.  either bigish nuclear or small nuke triggered EMP.  Plane takes off and flies low again to its intended target.  The plane is easily flown by one person.  Soon.
 
2014-03-13 09:00:56 PM
Seats have been removed...
 
2014-03-13 09:02:23 PM
I came up with this same theory today after hearing the plane flew for 4 hours after disappearing. The simpler thing is usually it.  Rather than a secret plot, it could have been that everybody on the plane was dead due to decompression and it just kept going for hours. Like Payne Stewart.

Or maybe aliens.
 
2014-03-13 09:03:34 PM
I like how we're now basing entire news articles on people's theories.. Journamalism yeah!

I have the same qualifications as this kid, my dad is a manufacturer of the engines this plane uses. I also have already graduated college and I've seen every episode of Air Crash Investigation. Someone get CNN on the phone now, I've got a theory!

Also, his theory fits the facts *because we have very few facts*.

Jesus this planet is hurtling toward an Idiocracy reality.
 
2014-03-13 09:04:46 PM
Pffft. My theory of a Japanese cruiser shooting it down while they were patrolling one of the disputed island chains is much more plausible. They mistook it for a Chinese fighter bomber approaching for an attack and shot it down. After they realized their mistake the picked up the big pieces of debris and hid them below deck then joined in the search.
/ I also have toyed with the Ukraine distraction theory, but unlike earlier comments in this thread I think putin and Obama acted in concert. The u.s. shooting it down while Russian spy ships picked up the pieces.
// I'm leaning towards the jittery Japanese ship theory.
 
2014-03-13 09:05:13 PM

FnkyTwn: Isn't there a thing where the cabin depressurizes and then the temp drops to like -80 instantly and everybody freezes to death, but the plane keeps flying? I thought something like that happened on a GulfStream a few years back. The military flew near the plane and the windows were all frosted over while the autopilot kept it going until it ran out of fuel?


Before they freeze, they die of hypoxia (too little oxygen). The air up there is cold, that's what frosts the windows up.
 
2014-03-13 09:16:13 PM
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Everyone knows they're just getting ready to fly it into the Pentagon.
 
2014-03-13 09:17:05 PM
Well, similar to my theory, but I didn't know about all the "rumors" of the transponders being shut off manually 15 mins apart.

My theory was that the plane had an explosion of some sort decompressing the cabin and cutting electronics and transponders. The pilots were able to turn the plane back to Malaysia before becoming incapacitated and then like Payne Stewart - a ghost plane flew out into the Indian Ocean and crashed when it ran out of fuel.

Are we 100% sure the transponders were manually shut off then? Because, you know - there is a ton of BS out there.
 
2014-03-13 09:24:26 PM

m00: Look upon my works ye mighty and despair.


Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare,
The lone and level sands stretch far away

your blog sucks.
 
2014-03-13 09:26:02 PM
This guy knows what happened.
 
2014-03-13 09:28:37 PM

FizixJunkee: This guy knows what happened.


(aliens)
 
2014-03-13 09:31:32 PM
If the plane crashed on land, wouldn't the fire and smoke be pretty visible from the air and space? Crashing in a jungle may hide some wreckage but I would think an av-gas fueled forest fire would be a sight to behold.

A more interesting theory would be a Miracle on the Hudson attempt which led to the plane sinking before the hatches could be opened and the crew and passengers escaped. Maybe some kind of fire damaged the communication equipment, explaining the list contact.

Or, perhaps, a crippled and communications-less plane attempted to land in foreign airspace but was mistaken for an enemy aircraft and shot down. A cover-up commences upon the discovery of the mistake.
 
2014-03-13 09:32:13 PM
Has anyone wondered why his day's not being interviewed instead? It's because his dad knows enough not to speculate and put his name on it.
 
2014-03-13 09:53:01 PM

Steve McQueen's Motorcycle: They need to find this thing soon, or at least pieces of it or we have a problem.

My theory.  A crew member (or two) took control, shut the systems down that they could and flew to a preplanned remote destination across the Indian Ocean.  With assistance of waiting accomplices, the rest of the crew and passengers were removed and executed.  Have been removed and replaced with a big bomb.  either bigish nuclear or small nuke triggered EMP.  Plane takes off and flies low again to its intended target.  The plane is easily flown by one person.  Soon.


I'm with you, dude. Either that or they sold it to North Korea so Kim Jong Un could have a new personal jet.
 
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