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(International Business Times)   You're better strapping your kid to the roof of the car and hoping for the best. Graco to recall almost 4 million car seats   (ibtimes.com ) divider line
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2014-03-13 04:19:07 PM  
Our car seats were part of that recall. You can email Graco and they will send you a replacement buckle. We've never had trouble with our buckles sticking though.
 
2014-03-13 04:20:04 PM  
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2014-03-13 04:22:27 PM  
Use WD 40 to unstick the buckles. Problem solved.
 
2014-03-13 04:23:55 PM  
As someone that works for NWL I'm getting a kick out of these replies...
 
2014-03-13 04:25:10 PM  
Last month Graco issued a voluntary recall for approximately 3.7 million of their child safety seats due to the manflunctioning buckles

This manflunctioning has to stop
 
2014-03-13 04:28:50 PM  
as someone who used to be lilbordr's boss at NWL I'm getting a kick out of these replies as well
 
2014-03-13 04:29:55 PM  
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2014-03-13 04:33:49 PM  
Buy Graco stock now. They do this from time to time so their lobbyists can change the legal requirements and issue all new super safe seats.
 
2014-03-13 04:34:36 PM  
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2014-03-13 04:34:43 PM  
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THINGS YOU STRAP TO THE ROOF OF YOUR CAR!!
 
2014-03-13 04:36:58 PM  
Child safety recalls are fascinating to me. This recall, if you follow the "read Graco's Statement" link in there, is due to "food and dried liquids that can make some harness buckles progressively more difficult to open over time or become stuck in the latched position".

So, Junior spills a bunch of apple juice and Goldfish all over the seat, some if it gets into the buckle mechanism, and it "might" stick. HOLY SHIAT RECALL THEM ALL! And replace them with...what...buckles made of unstickable metal? Look at that picture...I'm guessing all they did was close that top gap some, hopefully making it more difficult for crap to get into the mechanism.

We got a recall on cribs we had for my girls a couple years ago. The recall had to do with the wooden slats on the bed rail: In two cases, those slats had been broken by children, and become a hazard. The paperwork literally specified: Two cases. Out of however many hundreds of thousands of these cribs that Babies R Us must have sold.
 
2014-03-13 04:41:40 PM  
I don't see the problem. Why would you want to unbuckle your kids from a car seat? Seems like the safest place to leave 'em when you're hitting up your dealer, getting booze and smokes, going to see a movie, having a meal, taking a vacation...
 
2014-03-13 04:43:55 PM  

jayhawk88: Child safety recalls are fascinating to me. This recall, if you follow the "read Graco's Statement" link in there, is due to "food and dried liquids that can make some harness buckles progressively more difficult to open over time or become stuck in the latched position".

So, Junior spills a bunch of apple juice and Goldfish all over the seat, some if it gets into the buckle mechanism, and it "might" stick. HOLY SHIAT RECALL THEM ALL! And replace them with...what...buckles made of unstickable metal? Look at that picture...I'm guessing all they did was close that top gap some, hopefully making it more difficult for crap to get into the mechanism.

We got a recall on cribs we had for my girls a couple years ago. The recall had to do with the wooden slats on the bed rail: In two cases, those slats had been broken by children, and become a hazard. The paperwork literally specified: Two cases. Out of however many hundreds of thousands of these cribs that Babies R Us must have sold.


Well the greatest hazard is wooden slat chairs.
 
2014-03-13 04:45:10 PM  

jayhawk88: Child safety recalls are fascinating to me.


Mostly because whatever you see being recalled your knee-jerk reaction is to panic until you read the fine print. This is quickly getting to be the case with any recall. Next headline: Dove recalls 3.9 trillion bars of soap.
...... Soap, a main ingredient in Dove's Beauty Bar was recently have found to create irritation in soft tissue, such as eyes. Three children were reported to having cried unholy terror because bubbles from the Dove Beauty Bar got in their eyes.

Story at 11.
 
2014-03-13 04:46:32 PM  
"Graco identified that food and dried liquids can make some harness buckles progressively more difficult to open over time or become stuck in a latched position,"

I have one of those models and can attest that vomit will also make the latch stick. Better then become unstuck I suppose.

/i wonder if I can get my money back for the seat we no longer use
 
2014-03-13 04:50:21 PM  

Anayalator: Buy Graco stock now. They do this from time to time so their lobbyists can change the legal requirements and issue all new super safe seats.


They streamlined that process. Car seats "expire" after like 18 months.

You can keep using them, but can't resell them or even donate them.
 
2014-03-13 04:52:29 PM  
You're better strapping your kid to the roof of the car and hoping for the best.
vs
Graco identified that food and dried liquids can make some harness buckles progressively more difficult to open over time or become stuck in a latched position

sooooooooooo no....

worst case, they get buckled in... for awhile...
 
2014-03-13 04:53:10 PM  
But on the bright side, some engineering group made some beancounter's artificial deadline for product release. Too bad your kid got hurt because of it.
 
2014-03-13 04:59:23 PM  

big pig peaches: "Graco identified that food and dried liquids can make some harness buckles progressively more difficult to open over time or become stuck in a latched position,"

I have one of those models and can attest that vomit will also make the latch stick. Better then become unstuck I suppose.

/i wonder if I can get my money back for the seat we no longer use


I think the trouble comes when you need to get them out of there in a hurry... As in a "the car is on fire!" hurry.

Another good reason to carry a pocket knife. It's one of the best tools you can own.

"Always keep and edge on your knife, son."
 
2014-03-13 04:59:44 PM  
I will never figure out how Graco makes money. Every single seat they have ever made has been recalled.
 
2014-03-13 05:00:13 PM  

Nick Nostril: But on the bright side, some engineering group made some beancounter's artificial deadline for product release. Too bad your kid got hurt because of it.


Didn't read TFA, or just didn't understand it?
 
2014-03-13 05:00:25 PM  

DOCTORD000M: big pig peaches: "Graco identified that food and dried liquids can make some harness buckles progressively more difficult to open over time or become stuck in a latched position,"

I have one of those models and can attest that vomit will also make the latch stick. Better then become unstuck I suppose.

/i wonder if I can get my money back for the seat we no longer use

I think the trouble comes when you need to get them out of there in a hurry... As in a "the car is on fire!" hurry.

Another good reason to carry a pocket knife. It's one of the best tools you can own.

"Always keep and edge on your knife, son."


an edge^
 
2014-03-13 05:07:35 PM  
In the very early 80's our family car was a Ford Ranchero SS.  A 2 seater.  I have 2 siblings.

My little brother got wrapped up in a blanket and sandwiched into the center console.  My little sisters "car seat" was the cubby hole where the spare tire normally was.  Being the oldest naturally I got to ride in the back with a piece of tarp to keep out the elements and the aforementioned spare tire for company.

/good times, good times
//Hated going to Grandma's
 
2014-03-13 05:22:13 PM  

Skyd1v: In the very early 80's our family car was a Ford Ranchero SS.  A 2 seater.  I have 2 siblings.

My little brother got wrapped up in a blanket and sandwiched into the center console.  My little sisters "car seat" was the cubby hole where the spare tire normally was.  Being the oldest naturally I got to ride in the back with a piece of tarp to keep out the elements and the aforementioned spare tire for company.

/good times, good times
//Hated going to Grandma's


I've been there, only it was an F-100, and my parents were safety-minded. I had to use a ratchet strap for a seatbelt.
 
2014-03-13 05:23:47 PM  

Skyd1v: In the very early 80's our family car was a Ford Ranchero SS.  A 2 seater.  I have 2 siblings.

My little brother got wrapped up in a blanket and sandwiched into the center console.  My little sisters "car seat" was the cubby hole where the spare tire normally was.  Being the oldest naturally I got to ride in the back with a piece of tarp to keep out the elements and the aforementioned spare tire for company.

/good times, good times
//Hated going to Grandma's


I was going to brag I was old enough to be a wee one before car seats, but your CSB beat mine.

But it IS getting redicilous how the age that kids have to stay in car seats keep going up.  It would be nice if my 3 year old could crawl around the back and get daddy another cold one from the cooler while we're on the highway.
 
2014-03-13 05:25:21 PM  

KidneyStone: I'm not sure defective is the right word to describe something that works until it gets gummed up by food and drool.  Poor design for use with kids, sure, but not particularly defective.


Well, it's "defective" in the way that it quits working, but yeah, this seems like people are going to panic over nothing.

It would suck to have to cut up a $100 car seat to get my kid out, though.

Skyd1v: In the very early 80's our family car was a Ford Ranchero SS.  A 2 seater.  I have 2 siblings.

My little brother got wrapped up in a blanket and sandwiched into the center console.  My little sisters "car seat" was the cubby hole where the spare tire normally was.  Being the oldest naturally I got to ride in the back with a piece of tarp to keep out the elements and the aforementioned spare tire for company.

/good times, good times
//Hated going to Grandma's


Yeah, things have changed... Hell, when I was a little kid, I woke up once and the car was up on the lift at the mechanic's. My cousin was in the car to watch me, and my mom didn't want to wake me up from my nap. That wouldn't happen now, either.

Nick Nostril: But on the bright side, some engineering group made some beancounter's artificial deadline for product release. Too bad your kid got hurt because of it.


As I just got done telling someone on another thread; unfortunately we have run out of prizes today for people who DNRTFA. You're always welcome to try tomorrow. Just jump in on any thread without bothering to read what's going on first and YOU could be a winner.
 
2014-03-13 05:31:25 PM  

big pig peaches: "Graco identified that food and dried liquids can make some harness buckles progressively more difficult to open over time or become stuck in a latched position,"

I have one of those models and can attest that vomit will also make the latch stick. Better then become unstuck I suppose.

/i wonder if I can get my money back for the seat we no longer use


Yes.
 
2014-03-13 05:37:11 PM  

MassAsster: You're better strapping your kid to the roof of the car and hoping for the best.
vs
Graco identified that food and dried liquids can make some harness buckles progressively more difficult to open over time or become stuck in a latched position

sooooooooooo no....

worst case, they get buckled in... for awhile...


Until you loosen the straps enough to just pull them out without undoing the buckle.
 
2014-03-13 05:37:50 PM  
Just had trouble getting my friend's kid out of the Graco SnugRide yesterday, and now I know why. Thanks Fark!

It got stuck after less than a week of use, no food spilled on it. But since the buckle sits right over the crotch, "liquids" will get all over it. Poor design. I'd want my money back, or the new buckle.
 
2014-03-13 05:59:05 PM  

Mikey1969: KidneyStone: I'm not sure defective is the right word to describe something that works until it gets gummed up by food and drool.  Poor design for use with kids, sure, but not particularly defective.

Well, it's "defective" in the way that it quits working, but yeah, this seems like people are going to panic over nothing.

It would suck to have to cut up a $100 car seat to get my kid out, though.

Skyd1v: In the very early 80's our family car was a Ford Ranchero SS.  A 2 seater.  I have 2 siblings.

My little brother got wrapped up in a blanket and sandwiched into the center console.  My little sisters "car seat" was the cubby hole where the spare tire normally was.  Being the oldest naturally I got to ride in the back with a piece of tarp to keep out the elements and the aforementioned spare tire for company.

/good times, good times
//Hated going to Grandma's

Yeah, things have changed... Hell, when I was a little kid, I woke up once and the car was up on the lift at the mechanic's. My cousin was in the car to watch me, and my mom didn't want to wake me up from my nap. That wouldn't happen now, either.

Nick Nostril: But on the bright side, some engineering group made some beancounter's artificial deadline for product release. Too bad your kid got hurt because of it.

As I just got done telling someone on another thread; unfortunately we have run out of prizes today for people who DNRTFA. You're always welcome to try tomorrow. Just jump in on any thread without bothering to read what's going on first and YOU could be a winner.


Not everyone carries a knife. Some of us have to travel in gun-free zones. There should be fire-free zones.
 
2014-03-13 06:00:08 PM  
Sent in my new buckle request a month ago. Received email confirmation, but no buckle. I suspect broadening this recall will not improve response time.
 
2014-03-13 06:13:21 PM  

Riche: Skyd1v: In the very early 80's our family car was a Ford Ranchero SS.  A 2 seater.  I have 2 siblings.

My little brother got wrapped up in a blanket and sandwiched into the center console.  My little sisters "car seat" was the cubby hole where the spare tire normally was.  Being the oldest naturally I got to ride in the back with a piece of tarp to keep out the elements and the aforementioned spare tire for company.

/good times, good times
//Hated going to Grandma's

I was going to brag I was old enough to be a wee one before car seats, but your CSB beat mine.

But it IS getting redicilous how the age that kids have to stay in car seats keep going up.  It would be nice if my 3 year old could crawl around the back and get daddy another cold one from the cooler while we're on the highway.


Remember when cars had a FRONT SEAT and a BACK SEAT?  As in two benches bolted to the floor of the car?  Holy crap, you could stuff a lot of cousins in a car like that.  Going to the drive-thru (pay-per-car style) was like trying to set the record for most people in a phone booth.  And then we'd pull out like a thousand lawn chairs (and a couple more kids) from the trunk, set them up all over the hood and roof of the car, and watch some cheezy scarey movie while our teenage brother and his skanky girlfriend made out in the (now empty) back seat.

Got in a couple of accidents along the way too.  Mom's arm was all the restraining device we ever needed.
 
2014-03-13 07:30:58 PM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: I will never figure out how Graco makes money. Every single seat they have ever made has been recalled.


I tested one and I absolutely hated it.  It didn't feel remotely sturdy and tightening the straps was nearly impossible to do tight enough.  We ended up getting up getting a Chicco Keyfit for our infant carrier and Diono Radian for the toddler/booster seats after checking reviews.  Both were great and very sturdy (the Dionos are extremely heavy because they are made of steel), and they still work for both of my children even though they are 2 and 5 years old, and will work for a long time yet.
 
2014-03-13 07:46:30 PM  

smellyrunningshoes: Sent in my new buckle request a month ago. Received email confirmation, but no buckle. I suspect broadening this recall will not improve response time.


But it will help with lawsuits.
 
2014-03-13 07:50:04 PM  

bborchar: Adolf Oliver Nipples: I will never figure out how Graco makes money. Every single seat they have ever made has been recalled.

I tested one and I absolutely hated it.  It didn't feel remotely sturdy and tightening the straps was nearly impossible to do tight enough.  We ended up getting up getting a Chicco Keyfit for our infant carrier and Diono Radian for the toddler/booster seats after checking reviews.  Both were great and very sturdy (the Dionos are extremely heavy because they are made of steel), and they still work for both of my children even though they are 2 and 5 years old, and will work for a long time yet.


I really don't think they are designed with the grown adult in mind, but hey, what ever floats your boat!
 
2014-03-13 08:51:36 PM  
bagumpity: 

Remember when cars had a FRONT SEAT and a BACK SEAT?  As in two benches bolted to the floor of the car?  Holy crap, you could stuff a lot of cousins in a car like that.  Going to the drive-thru (pay-per-car style) was like trying to set the record for most people in a phone booth.  And then we'd pull out like a thousand lawn chairs (and a couple more kids) from the trunk, set them up all over the hood and roof of the car, and watch some cheezy scarey movie while our teenage brother and his skanky girlfriend made out in the (now empty) back seat.

Got in a couple of accidents along the way too.  Mom's arm was all the restraining device we ever needed.


Ahh, yes.  Front bench seats were GREAT for makeout sessions back in high school.

My '74 Dodge Dart saw a lot of action back in the day.
 
2014-03-13 09:05:04 PM  

MassAsster: bborchar: Adolf Oliver Nipples: I will never figure out how Graco makes money. Every single seat they have ever made has been recalled.

I tested one and I absolutely hated it.  It didn't feel remotely sturdy and tightening the straps was nearly impossible to do tight enough.  We ended up getting up getting a Chicco Keyfit for our infant carrier and Diono Radian for the toddler/booster seats after checking reviews.  Both were great and very sturdy (the Dionos are extremely heavy because they are made of steel), and they still work for both of my children even though they are 2 and 5 years old, and will work for a long time yet.

I really don't think they are designed with the grown adult in mind, but hey, what ever floats your boat!


Neither were diapers, once.
 
2014-03-13 09:17:04 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: MassAsster: bborchar: Adolf Oliver Nipples: I will never figure out how Graco makes money. Every single seat they have ever made has been recalled.

I tested one and I absolutely hated it.  It didn't feel remotely sturdy and tightening the straps was nearly impossible to do tight enough.  We ended up getting up getting a Chicco Keyfit for our infant carrier and Diono Radian for the toddler/booster seats after checking reviews.  Both were great and very sturdy (the Dionos are extremely heavy because they are made of steel), and they still work for both of my children even though they are 2 and 5 years old, and will work for a long time yet.

I really don't think they are designed with the grown adult in mind, but hey, what ever floats your boat!

Neither were diapers, once.


You may be on to something here....

Why not put old brittle bones granny in a safer seat?
 
2014-03-13 09:42:45 PM  

MassAsster: StoPPeRmobile: MassAsster: bborchar: Adolf Oliver Nipples: I will never figure out how Graco makes money. Every single seat they have ever made has been recalled.

I tested one and I absolutely hated it.  It didn't feel remotely sturdy and tightening the straps was nearly impossible to do tight enough.  We ended up getting up getting a Chicco Keyfit for our infant carrier and Diono Radian for the toddler/booster seats after checking reviews.  Both were great and very sturdy (the Dionos are extremely heavy because they are made of steel), and they still work for both of my children even though they are 2 and 5 years old, and will work for a long time yet.

I really don't think they are designed with the grown adult in mind, but hey, what ever floats your boat!

Neither were diapers, once.

You may be on to something here....

Why not put old brittle bones granny in a safer seat?


Want to go into business together?
 
2014-03-13 10:00:19 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: MassAsster: StoPPeRmobile: MassAsster: bborchar: Adolf Oliver Nipples: I will never figure out how Graco makes money. Every single seat they have ever made has been recalled.

I tested one and I absolutely hated it.  It didn't feel remotely sturdy and tightening the straps was nearly impossible to do tight enough.  We ended up getting up getting a Chicco Keyfit for our infant carrier and Diono Radian for the toddler/booster seats after checking reviews.  Both were great and very sturdy (the Dionos are extremely heavy because they are made of steel), and they still work for both of my children even though they are 2 and 5 years old, and will work for a long time yet.

I really don't think they are designed with the grown adult in mind, but hey, what ever floats your boat!

Neither were diapers, once.

You may be on to something here....

Why not put old brittle bones granny in a safer seat?

Want to go into business together?


Why not? It can't fail!
 
2014-03-13 10:08:25 PM  

MassAsster: StoPPeRmobile: MassAsster: StoPPeRmobile: MassAsster: bborchar: Adolf Oliver Nipples: I will never figure out how Graco makes money. Every single seat they have ever made has been recalled.

I tested one and I absolutely hated it.  It didn't feel remotely sturdy and tightening the straps was nearly impossible to do tight enough.  We ended up getting up getting a Chicco Keyfit for our infant carrier and Diono Radian for the toddler/booster seats after checking reviews.  Both were great and very sturdy (the Dionos are extremely heavy because they are made of steel), and they still work for both of my children even though they are 2 and 5 years old, and will work for a long time yet.

I really don't think they are designed with the grown adult in mind, but hey, what ever floats your boat!

Neither were diapers, once.

You may be on to something here....

Why not put old brittle bones granny in a safer seat?

Want to go into business together?

Why not? It can't fail!


Unlike those hips.

lulz.
 
2014-03-14 03:50:19 AM  
In my day we didn't have car seats. On long trips I used to sleep curled up on the floor in the back with my head on the transmission hump. No airbags, no three point harnesses, no side impact protection systems, slant six in the front, and plenty of chrome all around. Now excuse me while I adjust this onion on my belt.
 
2014-03-14 08:26:39 AM  
Have 2 Graco carseats.

The latches that lock the seats to the base constantly stick.  One of them has gotten horribly stuck several times in our graco stroller, leaving us standing in a cold parking lot with a screaming baby while wrestling to free our child.

The buckle latches often stick.
The buttons that recline the handles constantly stick.
None of this is a result of food contamination, our babies are 5 months old and have never been fed, or have had food, remotely close to them.

Not a big fan of Graco
 
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