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(USA Today)   Details and release date for the first three Led Zeppelin reissues announced. Here's a hint: start saving now   (usatoday.com) divider line 87
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2014-03-13 02:04:38 PM  
Don't need a reissue. The originals are just fine, thanks.
 
2014-03-13 02:09:03 PM  
cygnusx13

I agree.
 
2014-03-13 02:10:34 PM  
Now with extra digital distortion?  Thanks!
 
2014-03-13 02:12:03 PM  
Reissues are for shiat that's out of print. Ain't nobody in need of another copy of Immigrant Song.
 
2014-03-13 02:13:23 PM  
What's the point of numbering them if they're just going to continue selling them after the initial 30000?

and seriously... 1/30000 isn't impressive to begin with.
 
2014-03-13 02:13:31 PM  
img.fark.net
I wonder how many times we bought the same one.
 
2014-03-13 02:14:48 PM  

Dingermann: What's the point of numbering them if they're just going to continue selling them after the initial 30000?



Money? Just kidding, it's Art
 
2014-03-13 02:20:07 PM  

wiseolddude: cygnusx13

I agree.


Thirded

/have them all
//DNRTFA
 
2014-03-13 02:21:01 PM  

wiseolddude: cygnusx13

I agree.


Yet they will still sell out or make a ton more
 
2014-03-13 02:22:27 PM  

exick: Ain't nobody in need of another copy of Immigrant Song.


Unless you like Trent Reznor's version (feat. the lovely Karen O)
 
2014-03-13 02:24:27 PM  
DNRTFA - is this a remaster or a re-release of the last remaster? Everyone seemed to hate the sound quality on those.
 
2014-03-13 02:27:47 PM  
Huh.  Anything they wrote themselves?
 
2014-03-13 02:31:14 PM  
I think these have to be right up there with the most reissued stuff of all time.
 
2014-03-13 02:37:29 PM  

Billy Liar: Huh.  Anything they wrote themselves?


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-13 02:39:31 PM  
FTA:  all remastered by guitarist and producer Jimmy Page.

I'd think I would want a qualified mastering engineer to handle that....besides...I'm not sure how much remastering these tracks need.  They need to delve into the original mixes and lower Bonham's drums a bit.  Not everyone would agree, but those suckers are LOUD in the mix
 
2014-03-13 02:48:58 PM  
Over in one.
 
2014-03-13 02:58:57 PM  
And yet they still won't release them for Rocksmith.

/yes, I know about SmithyAnvil; it would still be nice to have official tacks of the songs
 
2014-03-13 03:01:37 PM  

devilEther: exick: Ain't nobody in need of another copy of Immigrant Song.

Unless you like Trent Reznor's version (feat. the lovely Karen O)


Better video for that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0bD4ts8eWY

Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CO7FPU7a2g
 
2014-03-13 03:02:33 PM  

cygnusx13: Don't need a reissue. The originals are just fine, thanks.


My problem is these bands that issue remasters that aren't the same as the version that you have listened to for 10 or 20 years and know intimately. It's one thing to issue a 'special' version of the song, but they need to include the original, too. The best I can think of right off the bat is Theatre of Pain. Motley Crue reissued that, and the songs sound completely different. It really sucks to be in the mood to listen to something, and then not hear what you are expecting.

And yeah, I already bought the 10 CD complete Led Zeppelin, why would I get rid of that?
 
2014-03-13 03:06:56 PM  
I had them all on cassette, then bought them all on CD in the 90s, then ripped them all to MP3 in the 2000s. I can't really imagine why I'd need new ones. Maybe just downloads of the previously unreleased stuff...I'd be more interested in them releasing properly mastered versions of their better bootlegs.

I have Earls Court '75 on DVD; it's pretty good, but flakes out at several points. There are some other decent quality performances on youtube, and lots of low-quality fragments. They were hit-or-miss in the later 70s, but the early stuff tends to stand up pretty well.

/was a raging zep head from age 12-17
 
2014-03-13 03:08:40 PM  
Most people will be more interested in the companion CDs.
 
2014-03-13 03:10:42 PM  

beezeltown: I have Earls Court '75 on DVD; it's pretty good, but flakes out at several points. There are some other decent quality performances on youtube, and lots of low-quality fragments. They were hit-or-miss in the later 70s, but the early stuff tends to stand up pretty well.


In My Time of Dying
 
2014-03-13 03:11:05 PM  
I have a lot of old CDs that really need to be remastered so that they sound decent as MP3s.  And after that, I should probably invest in some decent speakers.
 
2014-03-13 03:11:10 PM  
Over-rated "dad" band.

Does anyone really still want to hear Stairway on the radio 10 times a day?

Didn't think so.

blog.codinghorror.com
 
2014-03-13 03:13:38 PM  

Billy Liar: Huh.  Anything they wrote themselves?


Your band sucks. You may write everything yourself, but what you write sucks.
 
2014-03-13 03:15:32 PM  

drew46n2: Over-rated "dad" band.

Does anyone really still want to hear Stairway on the radio 10 times a day?

Didn't think so.

[blog.codinghorror.com image 384x247]


For sure. Same with Pink Floyd.
 
2014-03-13 03:19:48 PM  

beezeltown: I had them all on cassette, then bought them all on CD in the 90s, then ripped them all to MP3 in the 2000s. I can't really imagine why I'd need new ones. Maybe just downloads of the previously unreleased stuff...I'd be more interested in them releasing properly mastered versions of their better bootlegs.

I have Earls Court '75 on DVD; it's pretty good, but flakes out at several points. There are some other decent quality performances on youtube, and lots of low-quality fragments. They were hit-or-miss in the later 70s, but the early stuff tends to stand up pretty well.

/was a raging zep head from age 12-17


"As Long As I Have You" from the Fillmore West, 1969 still rocks my socks off. I wish they had done a studio version of that at some point.
 
2014-03-13 03:23:03 PM  

Mikey1969: cygnusx13: Don't need a reissue. The originals are just fine, thanks.

My problem is these bands that issue remasters that aren't the same as the version that you have listened to for 10 or 20 years and know intimately. It's one thing to issue a 'special' version of the song, but they need to include the original, too. The best I can think of right off the bat is Theatre of Pain. Motley Crue reissued that, and the songs sound completely different. It really sucks to be in the mood to listen to something, and then not hear what you are expecting.

And yeah, I already bought the 10 CD complete Led Zeppelin, why would I get rid of that?


dave mustaine did a bunch of remasters. Unlistenable. Problem is; those are the versions Google Play has available. Dammitsomuch
 
2014-03-13 03:25:46 PM  

HoboCop: Now with extra digital distortion?  Thanks!


And the "extras"!

/ AKA crap that wasn't on the original release because it is crap
 
2014-03-13 03:26:33 PM  
I, for one, think the remasters done by Page sound amazingly good...   Intricacies that you can't even detect in the original issues are now audible and beautiful.

If there's one guy who takes re-mastering seriously, its Page.....
 
2014-03-13 03:32:08 PM  
I still have LZII and Presence on vinyl, so I'm good thanks.
 
2014-03-13 03:35:21 PM  
So are the companion discs for II and III also live discs...? There only seemed to be info for the first album.
 
2014-03-13 03:39:58 PM  

amindtat: beezeltown: I had them all on cassette, then bought them all on CD in the 90s, then ripped them all to MP3 in the 2000s. I can't really imagine why I'd need new ones. Maybe just downloads of the previously unreleased stuff...I'd be more interested in them releasing properly mastered versions of their better bootlegs.

I have Earls Court '75 on DVD; it's pretty good, but flakes out at several points. There are some other decent quality performances on youtube, and lots of low-quality fragments. They were hit-or-miss in the later 70s, but the early stuff tends to stand up pretty well.

/was a raging zep head from age 12-17

"As Long As I Have You" from the Fillmore West, 1969 still rocks my socks off. I wish they had done a studio version of that at some point.


There was a Royal Albert Hall, I think from early '70, that was pretty juicy on the youtube. I've never found the "Whole Lotta Love" video, purportedly featuring topless dancers, that was filmed in Morrocco. Every now and then, I get the bug and start digging around for zep. Back in the day (mid-late 80s, for me), the only sources of info were the occasional fan magazine or crappy catalog, listing bootlegs, etc. My musical horizons broadened, after that...
 
2014-03-13 03:42:20 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: So are the companion discs for II and III also live discs...? There only seemed to be info for the first album.


From what I can tell, the first album gets the concert recording as it's bonus material.  The second and third albums are getting alternate takes and stuff that didn't make it onto the album as their bonus songs.
 
2014-03-13 03:42:31 PM  
Jimmy Page should have mixed them with the help of Steven Wilson and made them into 5.1 surround like Wilson has done with some of the King Crimson stuff.
 
2014-03-13 03:44:30 PM  
If things have been unreleased for 40 years, there is usually a reason for this. For the most part, "unreleased tracks" are filler.
 
2014-03-13 03:45:31 PM  

T.rex: I, for one, think the remasters done by Page sound amazingly good...   Intricacies that you can't even detect in the original issues are now audible and beautiful.


This.  Typically when the studios release a remastered CD, it simply means they pegged the levels across the board, eliminating all dynamic range so they sound loud good through crappy Apple earbuds.  I trust that Page will give us something worth hearing.
 
2014-03-13 03:46:01 PM  

stupiddream: Jimmy Page should have mixed them with the help of Steven Wilson and made them into 5.1 surround like Wilson has done with some of the King Crimson stuff.


SW needs to be too busy putting Porcupine Tree back together for that.

/please?
//oh god please?
 
2014-03-13 03:49:16 PM  

Dragonflew: stupiddream: Jimmy Page should have mixed them with the help of Steven Wilson and made them into 5.1 surround like Wilson has done with some of the King Crimson stuff.

SW needs to be too busy putting Porcupine Tree back together for that.

/please?
//oh god please?


Agreed, though The Raven That Refused To Sing is an excellent album.
 
2014-03-13 03:49:53 PM  
Babe, I'm gonna leave you ... off my Christmas list.
 
2014-03-13 03:52:27 PM  

T.rex: I, for one, think the remasters done by Page sound amazingly good...   Intricacies that you can't even detect in the original issues are now audible and beautiful.

If there's one guy who takes re-mastering seriously, its Page.....


Except for the details that are now audible and, uh, not quite so beautiful. Like that annoyingly squeaky bass-drum pedal on "Since I've Been Loving You".

What? Never noticed that before? Well, now you will. Every goddamn time, like it or not. You're welcome!
 
2014-03-13 03:52:57 PM  

stupiddream: Dragonflew: stupiddream: Jimmy Page should have mixed them with the help of Steven Wilson and made them into 5.1 surround like Wilson has done with some of the King Crimson stuff.

SW needs to be too busy putting Porcupine Tree back together for that.

/please?
//oh god please?

Agreed, though The Raven That Refused To Sing is an excellent album.


I'll give it a listen. I have honestly only heard the one solo album and it was so sleepy that I was not really interested in more. But when Gavin plays with SW, magic happens, which is why I would love to see PT back together.
 
2014-03-13 03:57:59 PM  
Bonzo shot first!
 
2014-03-13 03:58:07 PM  

ColSanders: T.rex: I, for one, think the remasters done by Page sound amazingly good...   Intricacies that you can't even detect in the original issues are now audible and beautiful.

This.  Typically when the studios release a remastered CD, it simply means they pegged the levels across the board, eliminating all dynamic range so they sound loud good through crappy Apple earbuds.  I trust that Page will give us something worth hearing.


Really?  Honestly did not know that.

Now I'm really thinking about getting the Capitol releases of all the US Beatles albums if the recently released versions are that way as well.
 
2014-03-13 04:02:27 PM  

drew46n2: Over-rated "dad" band.


Your time is gonna come
 
2014-03-13 04:04:29 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: drew46n2: Over-rated "dad" band.

Does anyone really still want to hear Stairway on the radio 10 times a day?

Didn't think so.

[blog.codinghorror.com image 384x247]

For sure. Same with Pink Floyd.


Maybe it is all pointless, but why are the over-rated? And what does claiming them to be over-rated gain you? it seems like you are yelling at history and wishing you could go back in time and change things.

These bands are/were huge. They were influential on thousands of people and many of other bands. You can't change that fact.

I get if you don't like them, (well not really, but opinions and all that) but I don't get what the point of claiming them to be over-rated. I don't like The Who or the Rolling Stones, but I would never claim they are over-rated.

And I guess maybe you can influence younger kids to not check 'em out because of your over-rated claims, but I really see nothing wrong with people getting familiar with the history of rock and roll. And those are two bands that will continue on through fans and kids that discover them.

And don't listen to the radio. Unless you want to. But then don't get upset when you hear Stairway 10 times.
 
2014-03-13 04:04:59 PM  

Dragonflew: If things have been unreleased for 40 years, there is usually a reason for this. For the most part, "unreleased tracks" are filler.


Or worse.  The best worst review I ever read was one of an album of unreleased Elvis stuff which turned out to be halfass studio takes, rehearsal chat and so forth.  The reviewer likened it to the aural equivalent of watching somebody take a dump.  I remember he wrote, "You would be better off giving your money to a tramp."
 
2014-03-13 04:10:53 PM  
I have this so I don't need that.

i63.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-13 04:12:53 PM  

Rwa2play: ColSanders: T.rex: I, for one, think the remasters done by Page sound amazingly good...   Intricacies that you can't even detect in the original issues are now audible and beautiful.

This.  Typically when the studios release a remastered CD, it simply means they pegged the levels across the board, eliminating all dynamic range so they sound loud good through crappy Apple earbuds.  I trust that Page will give us something worth hearing.

Really?  Honestly did not know that.

Now I'm really thinking about getting the Capitol releases of all the US Beatles albums if the recently released versions are that way as well.


The recent Beatles re-releases are very well done.  They actually put some effort into them, although I still prefer the mono versions for the albums that are in that set.
 
2014-03-13 04:14:00 PM  

beezeltown: amindtat: beezeltown: I had them all on cassette, then bought them all on CD in the 90s, then ripped them all to MP3 in the 2000s. I can't really imagine why I'd need new ones. Maybe just downloads of the previously unreleased stuff...I'd be more interested in them releasing properly mastered versions of their better bootlegs.

I have Earls Court '75 on DVD; it's pretty good, but flakes out at several points. There are some other decent quality performances on youtube, and lots of low-quality fragments. They were hit-or-miss in the later 70s, but the early stuff tends to stand up pretty well.

/was a raging zep head from age 12-17

"As Long As I Have You" from the Fillmore West, 1969 still rocks my socks off. I wish they had done a studio version of that at some point.

There was a Royal Albert Hall, I think from early '70, that was pretty juicy on the youtube. I've never found the "Whole Lotta Love" video, purportedly featuring topless dancers, that was filmed in Morrocco. Every now and then, I get the bug and start digging around for zep. Back in the day (mid-late 80s, for me), the only sources of info were the occasional fan magazine or crappy catalog, listing bootlegs, etc. My musical horizons broadened, after that...


Bought a vhs of zep doing European tv show gigs (dazed and confused, how many more times) at a record show sometime in the late 80's and at the end of the video they had that video with the topless dancer. Poor quality, melting type filmwork typical of the era. Still cool to see though. And a big *sigh to the "audiophile" upthread who is complaining about Page doing the mixing, and Bonzo's drums being too loud.
 
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