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2014-03-13 07:52:38 PM  

liam76: shtychkn: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [i2.cdn.turner.com image 640x360]

I'd probably find some sort of reason to strip search her also.

India has a right to be pissed off about this.

Americans should be pissed at this.  She was put through nothing more then the average american citizen who was arrested that same day.

She was a flight risk. I am actually ok with her being held in prison. If you are going to prison a serach makes sense.


I disagree. Keep temp people in a sep. location from those that are there for years. Then no need to rape those there for the weekend.
 
2014-03-13 08:00:57 PM  

Dr Dreidel: shtychkn: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [i2.cdn.turner.com image 640x360]

I'd probably find some sort of reason to strip search her also.

India has a right to be pissed off about this.

Americans should be pissed at this.  She was put through nothing more then the average american citizen who was arrested that same day.

No, we shouldn't. Hey, I'm all for preserving dignity as much as possible, but when you're processed into a detention center, they absolutely should strip-search you to find and remove weapons and contraband, but also so that everyone knows exactly what condition you were in when you got there.

Full disclosure: when I worked at a psych hospital, we did "strip searches" of new patients. Myself and another (male) staffer went with the kid (the unit was for 12-18 year old boys) to the bathroom, where the kid stripped off to his boxers. We went through their pockets, made note of any visible bruises or marks, handed back the clothing and left while they got dressed, no physical contact with the patient allowed (excepting exigent circumstances, obviously).

It's probably a different process for detention centers, but done for the same reasons.

Unless you can figure a different way to make that happen, while also explaining why a place ostensibly built to house the accused (and/or convicted) should not make absolutely sure that no one is bringing in weapons or contraband, it's the best of a bad situation.

// I suppose we could use the TSA's machines, but they're expensive (OMG coddling criminals!) and may expose detainees to radiation (OMG 8th Amendment!), so I'm fine with doing it "manually"
// "strip search" is different from cavity search (as I understand it)


I'm against strip searching people accused of a crime. Keep them separated from people convicted of crimes.
 
2014-03-13 08:06:52 PM  

shtychkn: Dr Dreidel: shtychkn: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: [i2.cdn.turner.com image 640x360]

I'd probably find some sort of reason to strip search her also.

India has a right to be pissed off about this.

Americans should be pissed at this.  She was put through nothing more then the average american citizen who was arrested that same day.

No, we shouldn't. Hey, I'm all for preserving dignity as much as possible, but when you're processed into a detention center, they absolutely should strip-search you to find and remove weapons and contraband, but also so that everyone knows exactly what condition you were in when you got there.

Full disclosure: when I worked at a psych hospital, we did "strip searches" of new patients. Myself and another (male) staffer went with the kid (the unit was for 12-18 year old boys) to the bathroom, where the kid stripped off to his boxers. We went through their pockets, made note of any visible bruises or marks, handed back the clothing and left while they got dressed, no physical contact with the patient allowed (excepting exigent circumstances, obviously).

It's probably a different process for detention centers, but done for the same reasons.

Unless you can figure a different way to make that happen, while also explaining why a place ostensibly built to house the accused (and/or convicted) should not make absolutely sure that no one is bringing in weapons or contraband, it's the best of a bad situation.

// I suppose we could use the TSA's machines, but they're expensive (OMG coddling criminals!) and may expose detainees to radiation (OMG 8th Amendment!), so I'm fine with doing it "manually"
// "strip search" is different from cavity search (as I understand it)

I'm against strip searching people accused of a crime. Keep them separated from people convicted of crimes.


Oo
 
2014-03-13 09:04:56 PM  
I hope they PNG her ass. She can stay in her polluted shiathole of a country.
 
gja
2014-03-13 10:06:58 PM  

phoxxy: gja: phoxxy: liam76: nmrsnr: Police can't do whatever they want, and you are legally allowed to stop them from doing anything outside the scope of their authority

No you aren't.

In the State of Indiana, if the the police breach your property without warrant or just cause, you can legally shoot their sorry ass. It was the first State to introduce such a law.

+1 for Indiana

But, then you have to LIVE in Indiana.
Good luck with THAT.
'You're gonna need a bigger boat gun.'

It's not that bad. It could be worse.... much, much worse.

Don't judge me. I'm trying to look on the bright side of things...



I judge no fellow human. One of my rules. Another rule is I never attack another persons place of living/residence (poor form).
Only ever in jest do I take slight jabs at that.

Fair warning, long-damned post follows:
CSB/
I was in Indiana a last year. Had some work in Terre Haute. I always 'go native when traveling so no chain eateries for me.
Drove to have dinner at a local place (Major Restaurant<thats the name, East African/Ethiopian food, yum>).
Got off the main route, foolishly followed the GPS.
Saw literal blocks of houses where more were boarded up than occupied. This was now near 9PM.
Saw a 2.5-3 year old kid in diapers running around not 15 feet from road. Nobody anywhere near to stop this child from 'going mobile'.
The look of that area is one of 'those' images I will take to my grave, and if god turns up I will be certain to start some shiat with god over that.
I knew I was not in a happy area. I still have a sad from that. Maybe always will. My heart breaks for others that hit times that tough.
Second part was in Gary. Holy up-jumped-jesus-on-a-plutoinum-powered-pogostick! Never have I seen such blight.
/CSB
 
2014-03-13 10:45:50 PM  

gja: Terre Haute ... Gary


Gary's the armpit of Indiana with Terre Haute a close second, in my opinion.  You couldn't have gone to a worse place either time.

Gary's one of those you see from the highway and keep going to your next destination (usually Chicago). There's no real direct route to Terre Haute from the rest of the state... and for good reason, in my opinion.
 
2014-03-13 11:47:35 PM  

djwebb1127: .

Hahahaha...FALE.


Hahahaha ... FAIL.
 
2014-03-14 09:35:13 AM  

myrrh: djwebb1127: .

Hahahaha...FALE.

Hahahaha ... FAIL.


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2014-03-14 10:12:02 PM  

nmrsnr: AverageAmericanGuy: My understanding is that the police in America can do anything they want and resisting them is illegal. The only recourse you have is to sue them after the fact.

This is just plain false. Why do people conflate capability with authority? It's like saying "my understanding is that in America people can break into your house, beat you up, and steal your stuff. The only recourse you have is to press charges against them afterwards."

Police can't do whatever they want, and you are legally allowed to stop them from doing anything outside the scope of their authority.


This is an example of being right might also mean being dead.  If a burglar breaks into your home, you probably will be able to maintain your rights and shoot the intruder without repercussion -legal or otherwise.  But if you shoot a cop executing an unlawful entry into your home the odds do not favor your rights over his protections.  Furthermore, outside of flat out killing the intruding cop, the homeowner has zero recourse.  You certainly arent going to talk the cop out of it, or get 911 to help you.  You would have to tolerate the loss of rights and take it to court.

BUT what you said isnt technically wrong.
 
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