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2014-03-13 12:56:16 PM
How about "whatsoever?"
 
2014-03-13 01:25:22 PM

2wolves: How about "whatsoever?"


This is my United States of Whatsoever!
 
2014-03-13 01:52:17 PM

AverageAmericanGuy: 2wolves: How about "whatsoever?"

This is my United States of Whatsoever!


Yeah, Whatsoever!
 
2014-03-13 01:54:00 PM
Waaaay before they legalized it, my friend wanted to go to CU-Boulder (mainly because of their lax pot laws). His mom told him he'd better get a full-time job while there because they weren't going to pay for him to smoke pot all day.

Applications doesn't equal attendance, and I'm sure a few parents will have a final say in the matter.
 
2014-03-13 01:54:58 PM

scottydoesntknow: Waaaay before they legalized it, my friend wanted to go to CU-Boulder (mainly because of their lax pot laws). His mom told him he'd better get a full-time job while there because they weren't going to pay for him to smoke pot all day.

Applications doesn't equal attendance, and I'm sure a few parents will have a final say in the matter.


Yeah parents would never let their kids go to a college where they might smoke pot.
 
2014-03-13 01:54:58 PM
So what if it is?

Are people really upset that they can't destroy a young person's life because they made a decision you don't agree with?

/of course they are
//found out it is decriminalized in the college town I live in for this very reason
 
2014-03-13 01:55:18 PM
Well, duh. It's not like pot is easy to get at any other college.
 
2014-03-13 01:56:54 PM
That's kind of sad.
 
2014-03-13 01:57:46 PM

Wadded Beef: Well, duh. It's not like pot is easy to get at any other college.


Still eff your life up big time if you get busted for it a  few times.
 
2014-03-13 01:57:50 PM

whosits_112: AverageAmericanGuy: 2wolves: How about "whatsoever?"

This is my United States of Whatsoever!

Yeah, Whatsoever!


Hey, I thought I told you kids--
 
2014-03-13 01:58:33 PM
Application rates are rising in educational facilities? More skilled workers are going to be entering the field in the next decade? SAY IT AIN'T SO!
 
2014-03-13 01:58:40 PM
Meh, 2014 might be the largest freshman class, but 2015 will be the smallest sophomore class.
 
2014-03-13 01:59:16 PM

scottydoesntknow: Waaaay before they legalized it, my friend wanted to go to CU-Boulder (mainly because of their lax pot laws). His mom told him he'd better get a full-time job while there because they weren't going to pay for him to smoke pot all day.

Applications doesn't equal attendance, and I'm sure a few parents will have a final say in the matter.


If your parent still has that much decision making power over their lives when they are 18 years old I don't know that college is right for them anyway.  Now they might decide to not help pay for college but honestly if my mother had pulled a stunt like that when I was 18 I would have been even more likely to do what I wanted and damn the consequences.
 
2014-03-13 01:59:33 PM
yo, Zafo, what's up?
 
2014-03-13 02:00:22 PM
It could also be that Boulder is a fairly good school with beautiful scenery and beautiful women, too.  And world class skiing only a stone's throw away.  Not so great with the sports teams, but there are lots of worse places in the world to have to spend 4 years.


But maybe the pot thing, too.
 
2014-03-13 02:01:12 PM
I have passively supported legalization for years, even though I no longer smoke. Pot clearly doesn't turn people into violent rapists, but I've seen it turn quite a few people into lethargic airheads over the years.

I am genuinely curious to see if this has a measurable impact on academic performance and/or dropout rates at the universities in Colorado. College students have been smoking forever, but the dynamic has to change in some fashion along with the new laws.
 
2014-03-13 02:01:44 PM

Kevin Lomax: scottydoesntknow: Waaaay before they legalized it, my friend wanted to go to CU-Boulder (mainly because of their lax pot laws). His mom told him he'd better get a full-time job while there because they weren't going to pay for him to smoke pot all day.

Applications doesn't equal attendance, and I'm sure a few parents will have a final say in the matter.

Yeah parents would never let their kids go to a college where they might smoke pot.


Kids might smoke pot at any college, that's not the point.

The point is pot is so prolific in Colorado that it will be one of the determining factors of letting your kid go there.
 
2014-03-13 02:02:33 PM

Wadded Beef: Well, duh. It's not like pot is easy to get at any other college.


I work at a college: my understanding from the Res Life folks is that pot is actually not that prevalent- it's too easy to smell even when you stuff towels under the door, and it's not conducive to being thin.  Beer, coke and pills are the preferred options, the first and last have the advantage of being legal and easy to get.

Similar memories back my my mid-80s college days. The only time I saw MJ used in copious quantities was at a Grateful Dead concert, but dear god did we have huge numbers of hardcore alcoholics.

/Before I went to see the Dead I didn't know you could get stoned just by breathing the air around you.  I was wrong...
 
2014-03-13 02:04:50 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: Wadded Beef: Well, duh. It's not like pot is easy to get at any other college.

I work at a college: my understanding from the Res Life folks is that pot is actually not that prevalent- it's too easy to smell even when you stuff towels under the door, and it's not conducive to being thin.  Beer, coke and pills are the preferred options, the first and last have the advantage of being legal and easy to get.

Similar memories back my my mid-80s college days. The only time I saw MJ used in copious quantities was at a Grateful Dead concert, but dear god did we have huge numbers of hardcore alcoholics.

/Before I went to see the Dead I didn't know you could get stoned just by breathing the air around you.  I was wrong...


That is why you need to have a car on campus.
 
2014-03-13 02:05:25 PM
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2014-03-13 02:06:44 PM
So, in four years employers are gonna hire more Colorado grads?
Have fun, kiddies!
 
2014-03-13 02:07:19 PM

Slaves2Darkness: That is why you need to have a car on campus.


We used to go through the self-service car washes.

Get the $10 package (With the crazy soap colors and smell). Toke up where absolutely no one can see you. And just drive right out, perfectly baked.
 
2014-03-13 02:08:09 PM

The Muthaship: That's kind of sad.


Why?
 
2014-03-13 02:10:05 PM
While I was at university, amphetamines for use in marathon study sessions were cheap and plentiful.  The trouble with that was that you were supposed to be studying things like a language or mathematics, but you'd waste half the night discussing religion or history after meeting someone who was focused on those areas, instead.

Pot was to be avoided for supposedly similar reasons.  Plus, you might have waked up in a dorm room with her.  Or um, so I've heard.
 
2014-03-13 02:10:38 PM
if the school recieves Federal Money it is covered by the drug free school act.   Smoking MJ on such campuses is still a felony.   works at a University, has tried to explain Federal law to stoners.
 
2014-03-13 02:11:30 PM
It's all about education, motherfarker.
 
2014-03-13 02:11:56 PM

BSABSVR: The Muthaship: That's kind of sad.

Why?


If they are choosing where they go for their education based on where it will be easiest to use their intoxicant of choice, I am a little disappointed in their priority structure.  I am left wondering about their actual motives and goals.

Sort of like when my daughter says she doesn't want to go to college in a place that has cold winters.

/just makes me cringe
 
2014-03-13 02:12:12 PM
A chronic need for a college degree
 
2014-03-13 02:12:37 PM
So applications are reaching...

*takes off sunglasses*

...a new high?
 
2014-03-13 02:14:25 PM

Egoy3k: If your parent still has that much decision making power over their lives when they are 18 years old I don't know that college is right for them anyway.



Parents may not be able to force a college decision after someone reaches the age of majority, but to the extent that parents control the $$, they can exert some degree of control.
 
2014-03-13 02:15:39 PM

The Muthaship: Sort of like when my daughter says she doesn't want to go to college in a place that has cold winters.


I got my PhD in Minneapolis.  I'm not saying her decision is the right one, but I understand.
 
2014-03-13 02:16:29 PM

jshine: Egoy3k: If your parent still has that much decision making power over their lives when they are 18 years old I don't know that college is right for them anyway.


Parents may not be able to force a college decision after someone reaches the age of majority, but to the extent that parents control the $$, they can exert some degree of control.


www.savingadvice.com
She disagrees.
 
2014-03-13 02:17:31 PM

rkiller1: jshine: Egoy3k: If your parent still has that much decision making power over their lives when they are 18 years old I don't know that college is right for them anyway.


Parents may not be able to force a college decision after someone reaches the age of majority, but to the extent that parents control the $$, they can exert some degree of control.

[www.savingadvice.com image 634x335]
She disagrees.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/12/us/student-sues-parents-new-jersey/
 
2014-03-13 02:17:39 PM

jshine: Egoy3k: If your parent still has that much decision making power over their lives when they are 18 years old I don't know that college is right for them anyway.


Parents may not be able to force a college decision after someone reaches the age of majority, but to the extent that parents control the $$, they can exert some degree of control.


Is there a reason for why you omitted the part of my comment that discusses "$$" and then proceeded to enlighten me about it?  It seems like an odd thing to do.
 
2014-03-13 02:18:49 PM

Heamer: whosits_112: AverageAmericanGuy: 2wolves: How about "whatsoever?"

This is my United States of Whatsoever!

Yeah, Whatsoever!

Hey, I thought I told you kids--


and I'm like, yeah, whatever!
 
2014-03-13 02:19:20 PM

Egoy3k: jshine: Egoy3k: If your parent still has that much decision making power over their lives when they are 18 years old I don't know that college is right for them anyway.


Parents may not be able to force a college decision after someone reaches the age of majority, but to the extent that parents control the $$, they can exert some degree of control.

Is there a reason for why you omitted the part of my comment that discusses "$$" and then proceeded to enlighten me about it?  It seems like an odd thing to do.


You expect me to read the entire post?  Man, such a high bar!
 
2014-03-13 02:19:25 PM

jshine: I understand.


I agree, I completely understand.  I went to school in a cold place, as well.  I just wish she wouldn't say it to other people.  Just makes her sound bad IMO.
 
2014-03-13 02:19:37 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: Wadded Beef: Well, duh. It's not like pot is easy to get at any other college.

I work at a college: my understanding from the Res Life folks is that pot is actually not that prevalent- it's too easy to smell even when you stuff towels under the door, and it's not conducive to being thin.  Beer, coke and pills are the preferred options, the first and last have the advantage of being legal and easy to get.

Similar memories back my my mid-80s college days. The only time I saw MJ used in copious quantities was at a Grateful Dead concert, but dear god did we have huge numbers of hardcore alcoholics.

/Before I went to see the Dead I didn't know you could get stoned just by breathing the air around you.  I was wrong...


The kids don't know the "exhale into an empty tp cardboard stuffed with fabric softener sheets" trick? Or these days, vapes?
 
2014-03-13 02:20:19 PM

Egoy3k: scottydoesntknow: Waaaay before they legalized it, my friend wanted to go to CU-Boulder (mainly because of their lax pot laws). His mom told him he'd better get a full-time job while there because they weren't going to pay for him to smoke pot all day.

Applications doesn't equal attendance, and I'm sure a few parents will have a final say in the matter.

If your parent still has that much decision making power over their lives when they are 18 years old I don't know that college is right for them anyway.  Now they might decide to not help pay for college but honestly if my mother had pulled a stunt like that when I was 18 I would have been even more likely to do what I wanted and damn the consequences.


I don't know how old you are, but nowadays strapping yourself with $20-$80,000 in student loan debt is a pretty stupid way to stick it to your parents.
 
2014-03-13 02:21:27 PM
lindalouwho:

The kids don't know the "exhale into an empty tp cardboard stuffed with fabric softener sheets" trick? Or these days, vapes?

doob tube
 
2014-03-13 02:22:18 PM

vharshyde: Application rates are rising in educational facilities? More skilled workers are going to be entering the field in the next decade? SAY IT AIN'T SO!


I hate to break it to you but a degree doesn't mean a person is skilled. Depending on how much pot they have smoked they aren't likely to be much of a laborer either.

I'm sure things will level out in a few years but at least for awhile we are going to see a lot of idiots wasting their parents money AND other kids chances at actually learning (taking up class enrollment slots, disruptive behavior, etc...) because they think they can just go get stoned all the time. And I'm sure that quite a number of the ones that do make it through are going to have picked the easiest sounding classes possible and end up with a degree that in no way actually helps them but does ensure that they still have a large debt to pay off.

Yes, we may get lucky and get a few brilliant minds out this here and there and a decent number of at least competent workers. That still doesn't mean the process is going to be pretty or that you are going to want to be close enough to see, hear, or smell it.
 
2014-03-13 02:22:57 PM

lindalouwho: The kids don't know the "exhale into an empty tp cardboard stuffed with fabric softener sheets" trick? Or these days, vapes?


Yea, that doesn't work. It just smells like weed that went through a cycle in the dryer.

/Not sure about vapes
//They always smelled like burnt popcorn to me
///Which, incidentally, is how most college hallways smell
//Because no one knows how to use a farking microwave
/Slashies!
 
2014-03-13 02:24:58 PM

rkiller1: jshine: Egoy3k: If your parent still has that much decision making power over their lives when they are 18 years old I don't know that college is right for them anyway.


Parents may not be able to force a college decision after someone reaches the age of majority, but to the extent that parents control the $$, they can exert some degree of control.

[www.savingadvice.com image 634x335]
She disagrees.


She failed, you picked the wrong horse and therefore fail by proxy.

/Six more and we wont see you again.
//whatever that means...
 
2014-03-13 02:25:21 PM

Hacker_X: vharshyde: Application rates are rising in educational facilities? More skilled workers are going to be entering the field in the next decade? SAY IT AIN'T SO!

I hate to break it to you but a degree doesn't mean a person is skilled. Depending on how much pot they have smoked they aren't likely to be much of a laborer either.

I'm sure things will level out in a few years but at least for awhile we are going to see a lot of idiots wasting their parents money AND other kids chances at actually learning (taking up class enrollment slots, disruptive behavior, etc...) because they think they can just go get stoned all the time. And I'm sure that quite a number of the ones that do make it through are going to have picked the easiest sounding classes possible and end up with a degree that in no way actually helps them but does ensure that they still have a large debt to pay off.

Yes, we may get lucky and get a few brilliant minds out this here and there and a decent number of at least competent workers. That still doesn't mean the process is going to be pretty or that you are going to want to be close enough to see, hear, or smell it.


Yes, yes, everything is different now. Sure.
 
2014-03-13 02:27:22 PM

scottydoesntknow: Applications doesn't equal attendance, and I'm sure a few parents will have a final say in the matter.


As will the schools.  More students to choose from means they get to pick the best that apply.
 
2014-03-13 02:32:58 PM
When I was at CU-Boulder (1983-1988), there was no shortage of pot.  Or coke.  Or shrooms.  Or LSD.   Everything but the coke was grown/cooked locally - up the hill in Nederland, mostly.  Between the drugs, the rockclimbing, the skiing, and the rutting, everybody was havin' a good time... even we engineering students.

Admissions were 90% out of state due to a cap of 10% on in-state admissions, who paid 1/10th what the out-of-state students paid.  Most of the former students were from Orange County/San Diego or NY State/Connecticut.  It was a total party school, with most students, especially the Greeks, running around flush with Daddy's cash and driving their European turbocharged HS graduation gifts.  And at the same time, academics were strong, even if not the best in the US, they were among the top of public schools, especially in science and engineering.

Most of the in-state students, including me, had to work 30-40 hours a week to afford the tuition and cost of living, but even so, it was the party of my life!

/Electronics lab whilst stoned was awesome
//Thermodynamics lectures, not so much
///Wanna get laid?  Take psych classes... every one I took had hot and horny Arts&Parties girls, bored to death but fulfilling a science elective.
 
2014-03-13 02:33:06 PM

lindalouwho: Glockenspiel Hero: Wadded Beef: Well, duh. It's not like pot is easy to get at any other college.

I work at a college: my understanding from the Res Life folks is that pot is actually not that prevalent- it's too easy to smell even when you stuff towels under the door, and it's not conducive to being thin.  Beer, coke and pills are the preferred options, the first and last have the advantage of being legal and easy to get.

Similar memories back my my mid-80s college days. The only time I saw MJ used in copious quantities was at a Grateful Dead concert, but dear god did we have huge numbers of hardcore alcoholics.

/Before I went to see the Dead I didn't know you could get stoned just by breathing the air around you.  I was wrong...

The kids don't know the "exhale into an empty tp cardboard stuffed with fabric softener sheets" trick? Or these days, vapes?


Probably that and others, but why bother?  You can get legal amphetamines from lots of sources for when you need to work, and whatever alcohol you want on weekends for party time.  Either gets you in a lot less trouble than pot.
 
2014-03-13 02:41:35 PM

The Muthaship: jshine: I understand.

I agree, I completely understand.  I went to school in a cold place, as well.  I just wish she wouldn't say it to other people.  Just makes her sound bad IMO.


Or, she sounds smart and academically successful enough to be able to make that choice.  Except if she goes to ASU
 
2014-03-13 02:43:32 PM

bughunter: When I was at CU-Boulder (1983-1988), there was no shortage of pot.  Or coke.  Or shrooms.  Or LSD.   Everything but the coke was grown/cooked locally - up the hill in Nederland, mostly.  Between the drugs, the rockclimbing, the skiing, and the rutting, everybody was havin' a good time... even we engineering students.

Admissions were 90% out of state due to a cap of 10% on in-state admissions, who paid 1/10th what the out-of-state students paid.  Most of the former students were from Orange County/San Diego or NY State/Connecticut.  It was a total party school, with most students, especially the Greeks, running around flush with Daddy's cash and driving their European turbocharged HS graduation gifts.  And at the same time, academics were strong, even if not the best in the US, they were among the top of public schools, especially in science and engineering.

Most of the in-state students, including me, had to work 30-40 hours a week to afford the tuition and cost of living, but even so, it was the party of my life!

/Electronics lab whilst stoned was awesome
//Thermodynamics lectures, not so much
///Wanna get laid?  Take psych classes... every one I took had hot and horny Arts&Parties girls, bored to death but fulfilling a science elective.


Graduated 20 years after you. Can confirm nothings changed. Had a guy named Hippy Mike that lived in the apartment below ours. Was one stop shopping for whatever your drug addled heart desired.
 
2014-03-13 02:44:03 PM

scottydoesntknow: lindalouwho: The kids don't know the "exhale into an empty tp cardboard stuffed with fabric softener sheets" trick? Or these days, vapes?

Yea, that doesn't work. It just smells like weed that went through a cycle in the dryer.

/Not sure about vapes
//They always smelled like burnt popcorn to me
///Which, incidentally, is how most college hallways smell
//Because no one knows how to use a farking microwave
/Slashies!


You're using the wrong fabric softener ;-) people in apt bldgs keep secrets too.
 
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