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2014-03-13 12:52:37 PM  
1) Chris Matthews is dumb.

2) Its possible, perhaps likely. If the GOP takes the Senate, that means two things. One, Obama should be nominated as many judges as possible right now. Secondly, they will hold the Senate for 2 years and lose in 2016.
 
2014-03-13 01:06:23 PM  

DamnYankees: 1) Chris Matthews is dumb.


Understatement of the century.
 
2014-03-13 01:09:21 PM  
That thrill running down Chris Matthews' leg has turned into sciatica?
 
2014-03-13 01:26:53 PM  
Come back, Chris. You know you want to. We all got that tingling in our legs when Obama gave his New Hampshire concession speech. That's no basis to switch sides, you know.

We forgive you.
 
2014-03-13 01:33:50 PM  

DamnYankees: 1) Chris Matthews is dumb.


Rather, it seems more that he throws out exciting but delusional predictions because he values ratings more than accuracy. That's not necessarily stupid; it may merely be morally depraved -- which would better fit the profile of the typical democratic congressional staffer, and thus seems the more probable implication.

DamnYankees: 2) Its possible, perhaps likely.


Roughly 50-50 tossup on control was the last projection out of Nate Silver, who seems to have the delusion that a reputation for accuracy is going to get him ratings rather than burned as a witch.
 
2014-03-13 01:39:32 PM  

DamnYankees: 1) Chris Matthews is dumb.


He's a political star-farker whose principles rely on the polls.  He squealed like a fangirl over Bush in a flight suit when it was popular to do so, and praised him as a War President...until Bush's poll numbers tanked.  He did the same shiat with Obama, and he'll do the same shiat with whomever gets elected in 2016.

His political analysis has always gone along with what he thinks the polls say his audience wants to hear.
 
2014-03-13 01:42:19 PM  
People are placing way too much importance on that special election in Florida. 2014 is going to be a hard year for democrats, and the Republicans just might eke out a 51-49 majority in 2014, but like Damn Yankees said, it'll swing right back the other way in 2016, which is a really hard year for Republicans.
 
2014-03-13 01:56:08 PM  
Suddenly the words of Chris Matthews are gospel to the NRO?
 
2014-03-13 01:57:03 PM  
Considering the typical voter makes the ever-forgiving battered wife on COPS look like a keen judge of character, I agree that this is possible.
 
2014-03-13 01:57:24 PM  
Dems should double-down on gun control
 
2014-03-13 01:58:13 PM  

nmrsnr: . 2014 is going to be a hard year for democrats,


Based on what? I haven't been keeping up with the mid-terms.
 
2014-03-13 01:58:15 PM  
Chris Matthews on President Bush:

MATTHEWS: What's the importance of the president's amazing display of leadership tonight?
[...]
MATTHEWS: What do you make of the actual visual that people will see on TV and probably, as you know, as well as I, will remember a lot longer than words spoken tonight? And that's the president looking very much like a jet, you know, a high-flying jet star. A guy who is a jet pilot. Has been in the past when he was younger, obviously. What does that image mean to the American people, a guy who can actually get into a supersonic plane and actually fly in an unpressurized cabin like an actual jet pilot?
[...]
MATTHEWS: Do you think this role, and I want to talk politically [...], the president deserves everything he's doing tonight in terms of his leadership. He won the war. He was an effective commander. Everybody recognizes that, I believe, except a few critics. Do you think he is defining the office of the presidency, at least for this time, as basically that of commander in chief? That [...] if you're going to run against him, you'd better be ready to take [that] away from him.
[...]
MATTHEWS: Let me ask you, Bob Dornan, you were a congressman all those years. Here's a president who's really nonverbal. He's like Eisenhower. He looks great in a military uniform. He looks great in that cowboy costume he wears when he goes West. I remember him standing at that fence with Colin Powell. Was [that] the best picture in the 2000 campaign?
[...]
MATTHEWS: The president there -- look at this guy! We're watching him. He looks like he flew the plane. He only flew it as a passenger, but he's flown --
CADDELL: He looks like a fighter pilot.
MATTHEWS: He looks for real. What is it about the commander in chief role, the hat that he does wear, that makes him -- I mean, he seems like -- he didn't fight in a war, but he looks like he does.
CADDELL: Yes. It's a -- I don't know. You know, it's an internal thing. I don't know if you can put it into words. [...] You can see it with him and the troops, the ease with which he talks to them. I was amazed by that, frankly, because as I said, I was originally appalled, particularly when I heard he was going in an F-18. But -- on there -- but the -- but you know, that was --
MATTHEWS: Look at this guy!
CADDELL: -- was hard not to be moved by their reaction to him and his reaction to them and --
MATTHEWS: You know, Ann --
CADDELL: -- you know, they -- it's a quality. It's an innate quality. It's a real quality.
MATTHEWS: I know. I think you're right.


MATTHEWS: We're proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who's physical, who's not a complicated guy like [former President Bill] Clinton or even like [former Democratic presidential candidates Michael] Dukakis or [Walter] Mondale, all those guys, [George] McGovern. They want a guy who's president. Women like a guy who's president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It's simple. We're not like the Brits. We don't want an indoor prime minister type, or the Danes or the Dutch or the Italians, or a [Russian Federation President Vladimir] Putin. Can you imagine Putin getting elected here? We want a guy as president.
 
2014-03-13 02:01:16 PM  

nmrsnr: People are placing way too much importance on that special election in Florida. 2014 is going to be a hard year for democrats, and the Republicans just might eke out a 51-49 majority in 2014, but like Damn Yankees said, it'll swing right back the other way in 2016, which is a really hard year for Republicans.


I hate that our electorate is so blinded that, given the daily horseshiat that comes out of GOPers' mouths, they'd even consider electing a republican right now.
 
2014-03-13 02:03:38 PM  

Tony Snark: nmrsnr: . 2014 is going to be a hard year for democrats,

Based on what? I haven't been keeping up with the mid-terms.


Aside from the typical turnout imbalance in non-presidential election years, the electoral math in the Senate is not in the Democrats' favor; there are seven seats currently held by Democrats that are up for re-election in states that Mitt Romney won in 2012.
 
2014-03-13 02:06:08 PM  
November is a long way off. Between now and then they're going to play an ENTIRE baseball season and you know how long one of those is. A lot could happen.
 
2014-03-13 02:07:02 PM  
FTFA:

"Matthews offered his own campaign advice for Democrats if they want to minimize the damage this fall: Go all-in on scare tactics. He encouraged Democrats to up the ante on various issues, such as framing voter-ID laws as attacks on minorities and pro-life measures as attacks on abortion rights"

At least he's honest about the  scare tactics.  Quick Gin up some fear!
 
2014-03-13 02:09:07 PM  
Maybe.  I can't wait to hear them whine about the Dems filibustering EVERYTHING

DamnYankees: 1) Chris Matthews is dumb.


I disagree...but he is far too annoying to watch.
 
2014-03-13 02:12:26 PM  

Krymson Tyde: nmrsnr: People are placing way too much importance on that special election in Florida. 2014 is going to be a hard year for democrats, and the Republicans just might eke out a 51-49 majority in 2014, but like Damn Yankees said, it'll swing right back the other way in 2016, which is a really hard year for Republicans.

I hate that our electorate is so blinded that, given the daily horseshiat that comes out of GOPers' mouths, they'd even consider electing a republican right now.


I don't get it either. Because Republicans have put out such an appealing message these past few years?

All I can figure is that those polls that say most Americans support a minimum wage increase, same-sex marriage, and abortion rights are complete and utter horseshiat.
 
2014-03-13 02:13:16 PM  

FlashHarry: I think we like having a hero as our president. It's simple. We're not like the Brits. We don't want an indoor prime minister type, or the Danes or the Dutch or the Italians, or a [Russian Federation President Vladimir] Putin.


Didn't the 2004 election prove him correct? It's not something to be proud of, but that's EXACTLY what Americans wanted.
 
2014-03-13 02:15:05 PM  

Old enough to know better: Krymson Tyde: nmrsnr: People are placing way too much importance on that special election in Florida. 2014 is going to be a hard year for democrats, and the Republicans just might eke out a 51-49 majority in 2014, but like Damn Yankees said, it'll swing right back the other way in 2016, which is a really hard year for Republicans.

I hate that our electorate is so blinded that, given the daily horseshiat that comes out of GOPers' mouths, they'd even consider electing a republican right now.

I don't get it either. Because Republicans have put out such an appealing message these past few years?

All I can figure is that those polls that say most Americans support a minimum wage increase, same-sex marriage, and abortion rights are complete and utter horseshiat.


Or, perhaps, people are lazy during non-presidential midterms and do not get as fired up, so only true believers go out and vote.
 
2014-03-13 02:15:45 PM  

Tony Snark: nmrsnr: . 2014 is going to be a hard year for democrats,

Based on what? I haven't been keeping up with the mid-terms.


There are some prominent Dems in some very toss-up states either retiring or up for reelection. Sen. Gerry Mander may have a field day, particularly if Gen. Eric R. Publican is in the running. That guy's numbers are through the ROOF.
 
2014-03-13 02:17:00 PM  
Whatever, the senate hasn't done anything useful in years... I look forward to the Democrats filibustering everything, even things they support, then complaining about how the Republicans can't get anything done.
 
2014-03-13 02:18:28 PM  

Felgraf: Old enough to know better: Krymson Tyde: nmrsnr: People are placing way too much importance on that special election in Florida. 2014 is going to be a hard year for democrats, and the Republicans just might eke out a 51-49 majority in 2014, but like Damn Yankees said, it'll swing right back the other way in 2016, which is a really hard year for Republicans.

I hate that our electorate is so blinded that, given the daily horseshiat that comes out of GOPers' mouths, they'd even consider electing a republican right now.

I don't get it either. Because Republicans have put out such an appealing message these past few years?

All I can figure is that those polls that say most Americans support a minimum wage increase, same-sex marriage, and abortion rights are complete and utter horseshiat.

Or, perhaps, people are lazy during non-presidential midterms and do not get as fired up, so only true believers go out and vote.


Also, support for single issues like that probably doesn't translate into broad support for a party platform. You could be pro-minimum wage increase but also be pro-gun rights; depending on your priorities, you could vote for a pro-gun rights but anti-minimum wage candidate even though you support a higher minimum wage, because you place a higher priority on gun rights.
 
2014-03-13 02:19:29 PM  

Danger Mouse: FTFA:

"Matthews offered his own campaign advice for Democrats if they want to minimize the damage this fall: Go all-in on scare tactics. He encouraged Democrats to up the ante on various issues, such as framing voter-ID laws as attacks on minorities and pro-life measures as attacks on abortion rights"

At least he's honest about the  scare tactics.  Quick Gin up some fear!


Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of how gays are destroying America, women will become whores if insurance covers birth control, or how Obama the warmongering, appeaser, tyrant, empty-suit is going to turn our country into a socialist nazi communist hellhole.
 
2014-03-13 02:19:53 PM  
The current crop up for re-election won in 2008, when it was a presidential election. Had 2008 not been a presidential year, we wouldn't be talking about 2014 like this.
 
2014-03-13 02:21:12 PM  

firefly212: Whatever, the senate hasn't done anything useful in years... I look forward to the Democrats filibustering everything, even things they support, then complaining about how the Republicans can't get anything done.


They won't do that. The Democrats care way more about actual governance than the GOP does, so this sort of action isn't really what they - or their base - wants them to do.
 
2014-03-13 02:23:52 PM  

FlashHarry: Chris Matthews on President Bush...


The one critical piece of information that we derive from this: We now know exactly what kind of man makes Chris Matthews' little girl panties all moist and sticky.

Not that we wanted to know, but there it is.
 
2014-03-13 02:26:15 PM  

Tony Snark: nmrsnr: . 2014 is going to be a hard year for democrats,

Based on what? I haven't been keeping up with the mid-terms.


Simple numbers. 1/3 of senate seats come up for reelection every two years. This year, the cycle is on the senators that were elected in 2008. If you recall 2008, there was a serious anti-Republican sentiment due to Bush & co. and the economy just had the bottom fall out of it. If you had an (R) next to your name, it was a tough sell why you should be re-elected. That's why the Dems got 60 seats, because they picked up a lot of those traditionally Republican seats. This is the first election since then that the Republicans have a chance at getting them back, and unsurprisingly, the one weird year of 2008 is unlikely to repeat itself, so a lot of those Democrats in traditionally Republican states have hard reelection campaigns.

2014 is just going to be a hard year for Democrats in the senate.
 
2014-03-13 02:31:12 PM  

Sgt Otter: DamnYankees: 1) Chris Matthews is dumb.

He's a political star-farker whose principles rely on the polls.  He squealed like a fangirl over Bush in a flight suit when it was popular to do so, and praised him as a War President...until Bush's poll numbers tanked.  He did the same shiat with Obama, and he'll do the same shiat with whomever gets elected in 2016.

His political analysis has always gone along with what he thinks the polls say his audience wants to hear.


And THIS. Even more amusing is watching National Review take this guy seriously.
 
2014-03-13 02:32:23 PM  

mispelled username: The current crop up for re-election won in 2008, when it was a presidential election. Had 2008 not been a presidential year, we wouldn't be talking about 2014 like this.


Yep. There are a lot more democratic voters than republican voters, but republicans have a much higher turnout rate, especially at off-year elections.

All other things being equal, I'd be much more skeptical of this prediction, but 2008 was a huge, record-breaking landslide for democrats. With nothing driving similar turnout in '14, those seats become a lot more competitive than the raw numbers would indicate.

Democrats lack the urgent, personalized fear that Republicans sustain so well. They need an issue that gets middle-aged men to vote the same way guns do for the GOP. Abortion isn't going to do it, the generalized anxiety over jobs isn't going to do it, it needs to be a direct personal threat from the GOP to take away something that has strong enough fetishistic connections to get them to spend 15 minutes standing in line and voting.
 
2014-03-13 02:32:38 PM  

Sgt Otter: DamnYankees: 1) Chris Matthews is dumb.

He's a political star-farker whose principles rely on the polls.  He squealed like a fangirl over Bush in a flight suit when it was popular to do so, and praised him as a War President...until Bush's poll numbers tanked.  He did the same shiat with Obama, and he'll do the same shiat with whomever gets elected in 2016.

His political analysis has always gone along with what he thinks the polls say his audience wants to hear.


So my perception of Matthews as an ideological whore is borne out by what other people have observed as well.

It's too bad the only alternatives I know to for-profit media are either propaganda and/or low-quality amateurish "independent" media/blogs.
 
2014-03-13 02:32:54 PM  

DarwiOdrade: Suddenly the words of Chris Matthews are gospel to the NRO?


Came to say this.

/NYT's disease
//liberal-leaning news is always biased and wrong, except when they agree with conservatives
 
2014-03-13 02:36:28 PM  

Crabs_Can_Polevault: Not that we wanted to know, but there it is.


he's a starfarker.
 
2014-03-13 02:37:24 PM  

abb3w: Rather, it seems more that he throws out exciting but delusional predictions because he values ratings more than accuracy. That's not necessarily stupid; it may merely be morally depraved


Depraved. That's a strong word. I normally reserve it for things like sex crimes and voting Republican.
 
2014-03-13 02:53:41 PM  
If it is possible to strap Bill O'Reilly into a seat on a spaceship and launch the ship towards the sun, make damn sure that Chris Matthews is strapped into the seat next to him.
 
2014-03-13 02:55:34 PM  
Only a country that hates itself would put Republicans in majority control of the Senate.
 
2014-03-13 03:01:03 PM  

Fart_Machine: Danger Mouse: FTFA:

"Matthews offered his own campaign advice for Democrats if they want to minimize the damage this fall: Go all-in on scare tactics. He encouraged Democrats to up the ante on various issues, such as framing voter-ID laws as attacks on minorities and pro-life measures as attacks on abortion rights"

At least he's honest about the  scare tactics.  Quick Gin up some fear!

Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of how gays are destroying America, women will become whores if insurance covers birth control, or how Obama the warmongering, appeaser, tyrant, empty-suit is going to turn our country into a socialist nazi communist hellhole.


There's the difference between the Fark liberals and the Fark Independent trolls. See all the defending of Chris Matthews in here? Yeah, there isn't much. Now go and watch Karl Rove get defended by the trolls and see the difference. He can go ahead and suggest whatever he thinks will get ratings, but unless it's a good idea it will be brushed aside.

Chris Matthews: successful campaign adviser? That's new.
 
2014-03-13 03:09:22 PM  

MisterTweak: it needs to be a direct personal threat from the GOP to take away something that has strong enough fetishistic connections to get them to spend 15 minutes standing in line and voting.


In the 2012 election, Mitt Romney expressly took the position that he would take away the right to purchase and use contraception. He had to, because that's what the Republican base insisted on hearing. He knew he would lose critical states to Santorum if he failed to oppose the right to use birth control.

No, I'm not exaggerating. Not even a little. He opposes even Griswold v. Connecticut, which only spoke to the issue of whether or not states may ban the purchase of contraception to married couples. Its scion, Eisenstadt v. Baird, extended Griswold's protection to unmarried persons.

Republicans literally want  to give states power to dictate whether or not a man may purchase or wear a condom, or a woman may use any kind of birth control at all. How that isn't a "direct, personal threat" sufficiently strong to get people voting, I don't know. Democrats just don't know how to convey the sheer extent of the modern GOP's outrageous extremism.

Republicans: they want government small enough to fit into your bedroom.
 
2014-03-13 03:10:01 PM  

DamnYankees: 1) Chris Matthews is dumb.

2) Its possible, perhaps likely. If the GOP takes the Senate, that means two things. One, Obama should be nominated as many judges as possible right now. Secondly, they will hold the Senate for 2 years and lose in 2016.


Essentially this. To be honest it's sad to think dems had a chance at holding it because the seats up for reelection this year are the same as obama's first election when dems pretty much swept the board. If the senate does go republican, Obama can veto everything for 2 years and then the senate will flop back... hard in 2016 when all the tea party seats they gained in 2010 are back up for election.

The only thing that bothers me is that you know republican reteric will only get worse as most of them don't understand that only 1/3 are up for election at any given time and that the senate is not an accurate reflection of current political opinions. The house should be better but it's gerrymandered to hell. It is actually possible btw that dems take the house but odds are better they keep the senate
 
2014-03-13 03:27:12 PM  

Sgt Otter: DamnYankees: 1) Chris Matthews is dumb.

He's a political star-farker whose principles rely on the polls.  He squealed like a fangirl over Bush in a flight suit when it was popular to do so, and praised him as a War President...until Bush's poll numbers tanked.  He did the same shiat with Obama, and he'll do the same shiat with whomever gets elected in 2016.

His political analysis has always gone along with what he thinks the polls say his audience wants to hear.


why couldn't the heart attack taken him and left us Tim Russert.
 
2014-03-13 03:37:27 PM  

ManateeGag: Sgt Otter: DamnYankees: 1) Chris Matthews is dumb.

He's a political star-farker whose principles rely on the polls.  He squealed like a fangirl over Bush in a flight suit when it was popular to do so, and praised him as a War President...until Bush's poll numbers tanked.  He did the same shiat with Obama, and he'll do the same shiat with whomever gets elected in 2016.

His political analysis has always gone along with what he thinks the polls say his audience wants to hear.

why couldn't the heart attack taken him and left us Tim Russert.



THIS
 
2014-03-13 03:55:35 PM  
His prediction may turn out to be accurate but it does not make him any less of a gasbag.  I still do not understand why people find pundits like Chris Matthews entertaining and/or informative.
 
2014-03-13 04:40:50 PM  

abb3w:

Roughly 50-50 tossup on control was the last projection out of Nate Silver, who seems to have the delusion that a reputation for accuracy is going to get him ratings rather than burned as a witch

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... I got better ...

 
2014-03-13 04:48:09 PM  

Baz744: Depraved. That's a strong word. I normally reserve it for things like sex crimes and voting Republican.


Gross contributory negligence on the latter, in so far as his shenanigans camouflage the similar throwing out of exciting but delusional predictions by Fox News.
 
2014-03-13 05:01:08 PM  
Seriously? After all of the things that the gop has done and talked about wanting to do, the American People are going to give these sociopaths even MORE power and hand them 2/3's of our government?

Seeing sh*t like this makes me want to become a serial killer.
 
2014-03-13 05:02:36 PM  

Sgt Otter: DamnYankees: 1) Chris Matthews is dumb.

He's a political star-farker whose principles rely on the polls.  He squealed like a fangirl over Bush in a flight suit when it was popular to do so, and praised him as a War President...until Bush's poll numbers tanked.  He did the same shiat with Obama, and he'll do the same shiat with whomever gets elected in 2016.

His political analysis has always gone along with what he thinks the polls say his audience wants to hear.


Chris Matthews is the worst case of "HAIL ANTS! Syndrome" I have ever seen.

www.anomalynews.com
 
2014-03-13 05:05:24 PM  

Krymson Tyde:

I hate that our electorate is so blinded that, given the daily horseshiat that comes out of GOPers' mouths, they'd even consider electing a republican right now.
1. You can keep your doctor, period.

2. You can keep your plan, period.

3. Republicans don't care about people.

4. The recession is over.

5. Al Qaida has been decimated.

6. The Republicans are hurting the middle class.

7. The Benghazi attack was a result of an anti-Muslim video.

8. The Affordable Care Act will reduce the deficit and save money for the economy.

9. We want to insure the 30 million people who aren't insured.

10. Global warming is man made.

11. The Keystone Pipeline will hurt the environment by crossing an aquifer in the Midwest.

12. "This will be the most transparent administration ever."

I know, I know, it's Bush's fault Obama lies like a rug.

 
2014-03-13 05:20:03 PM  

DeltaPunch: FlashHarry: I think we like having a hero as our president. It's simple. We're not like the Brits. We don't want an indoor prime minister type, or the Danes or the Dutch or the Italians, or a [Russian Federation President Vladimir] Putin.

Didn't the 2004 election prove him correct? It's not something to be proud of, but that's EXACTLY what Americans wanted.


So did the 2008 election, frankly.

img3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-13 05:30:05 PM  

DamnYankees: 1) Chris Matthews is dumb.

2) Its possible, perhaps likely. If the GOP takes the Senate, that means two things. One, Obama should be nominated as many judges as possible right now. Secondly, they will hold the Senate for 2 years and lose in 2016.


You forgot the instant elimination of the filibuster if a Republican is elected President
 
2014-03-13 05:32:00 PM  
GeneralJim: derp

You can keep your doctor. Your insurance company screwed you out of your plan. The Republicans in power really don't, because it's not the people filling their pockets. The worst of the recession is over. Al-Qaeda's influence in Afghanistan has been reduced, including various reports of leaders and #2s being killed over the last few years (also, duh, Osama). Show me ways Republicans are helping the middle class. Benghazi was the result of many things, including Republicans reducing the budget for defense of foreign ministries (that, and reds can't seem to make up their minds on if it's Hillary or Obama to blame). The deficit has been steadily shrinking. Millions of those 30 million have gotten insurance, with more signing up every day. Many of the pollutants causing global warming are man made. Keystone XL is merely a Koch money-making grab. You know more about all the positives and negatives of this administration while it's in power than you do in any other administration in history (thanks, internet).

Boy, that was really hard. Glad you busted out the fancy font for that.
 
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