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(Science Magazine)   Oscar Goldman resigns from OSI claiming that bureaucrats spend more time in meetings rejigging data to make it look like they're doing something, than actually being productive   (news.sciencemag.org) divider line 43
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2014-03-13 11:21:51 AM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-03-13 11:29:36 AM  
That made me laugh.  Wonder how many people will get the reference without having to google the name?
 
2014-03-13 11:56:13 AM  
Where in the f*ck is Oscar Goldman?
 
2014-03-13 11:57:51 AM  
We spend exorbitant amounts of time in meetings and in generating repetitive and often meaningless data and reports to make our precinct of the bureaucracy look productive.

Government defined
 
2014-03-13 12:02:02 PM  
img4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-13 12:03:05 PM  

hasty ambush: We spend exorbitant amounts of time in meetings and in generating repetitive and often meaningless data and reports to make our precinct of the bureaucracy look productive.

Government defined


"The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy."
 
2014-03-13 12:07:47 PM  

hasty ambush: We spend exorbitant amounts of time in meetings and in generating repetitive and often meaningless data and reports to make our precinct of the bureaucracy look productive.

Government defined


Or just about every business I've ever been a part of.

I'm not saying government isn't bureaucratic, just that I mean come on every business I've ever been a part of has a budget.

I would like it if the centers related to accountability and science were more transparent, though.

Also, subby it's the ORI, the office of research integrity, not the OSI.
 
2014-03-13 12:15:30 PM  
fc00.deviantart.net
 
2014-03-13 12:17:16 PM  
Steve Austin will be pissed.


//We can rebuild him, we have the technology to make the worlds first bionic man.
 
2014-03-13 12:17:23 PM  
"After that, he writes, he plans to publish a version of his daily log at ORI" Legal attempts to block it in 5,4,3...
 
2014-03-13 12:19:18 PM  

Wellon Dowd: [img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 512x384]


I think that's Rudy, not Oscar, chatting with Ms. Summers.
 
2014-03-13 12:19:41 PM  
Probably got a better offer from S.P.H.I.N.X.
 
2014-03-13 12:22:10 PM  

Frothy Panties: Wellon Dowd: [img4.wikia.nocookie.net image 512x384]

I think that's Rudy, not Oscar, chatting with Ms. Summers.


Probably, but pokies.

God, I loved TV in the 70's!
 
2014-03-13 12:23:36 PM  
Have Two Ton 21 take care of it
 
2014-03-13 12:26:31 PM  

bdub77: hasty ambush: We spend exorbitant amounts of time in meetings and in generating repetitive and often meaningless data and reports to make our precinct of the bureaucracy look productive.

Government defined

Or just about every business I've ever been a part of.

I'm not saying government isn't bureaucratic, just that I mean come on every business I've ever been a part of has a budget.

I would like it if the centers related to accountability and science were more transparent, though.

Also, subby it's the ORI, the office of research integrity, not the OSI.


Exscuuuuuuuse me, while I whip this out.

img4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-13 12:27:08 PM  
Obvious tag on break?
 
2014-03-13 12:29:10 PM  

Arkanaut: Probably got a better offer from S.P.H.I.N.X.


("Sphinx!")
 
2014-03-13 12:35:55 PM  
great band :)
what instrument did Oscar play?

http://www.youtube.com/w atch?v=Ts1dCWXZU7g
 
2014-03-13 12:40:14 PM  

bdub77: hasty ambush: We spend exorbitant amounts of time in meetings and in generating repetitive and often meaningless data and reports to make our precinct of the bureaucracy look productive.

Government defined

Or just about every business I've ever been a part of.

I'm not saying government isn't bureaucratic, just that I mean come on every business I've ever been a part of has a budget.

I would like it if the centers related to accountability and science were more transparent, though.

Also, subby it's the ORI, the office of research integrity, not the OSI.


My own experience in private sector has been tath while useless meetings and data collection does exist, (particularly in HR) most of your good bosses do their best curb themas they end up costing money and these guys are measured more by how much actual ROI they generate than by the data they produce. The best bosses I have had (most in the petroleum sector) did away with most scheduled meeting and just hold them as he/she felt they were needed as most of what was discussed coudl be covered by emails and a few phone calls far more effectively.

Government agencies  on the hand spend a lot of time justifying their current budgets and increases to their budgets
 
2014-03-13 12:44:01 PM  

bdub77: hasty ambush: We spend exorbitant amounts of time in meetings and in generating repetitive and often meaningless data and reports to make our precinct of the bureaucracy look productive.

Government defined

Or just about every business I've ever been a part of.

I'm not saying government isn't bureaucratic, just that I mean come on every business I've ever been a part of has a budget.

I would like it if the centers related to accountability and science were more transparent, though.

Also, subby it's the ORI, the office of research integrity, not the OSI.


When a business does it they're only wasting their own money.
 
2014-03-13 12:44:25 PM  
I'm not sure where he expects that to not be the case.
 
2014-03-13 12:47:29 PM  

Spaced Lion: Where in the f*ck is Oscar Goldman?


Lahey's trailer.
 
2014-03-13 12:48:40 PM  
It isn't just the government. It's every corporation.

/Assistant to the Assistant Manager of Project Managers
 
2014-03-13 12:50:41 PM  
Was it Oscar? Or Maskatron posing as Oscar?
 
2014-03-13 12:52:28 PM  

MugzyBrown: bdub77: hasty ambush: We spend exorbitant amounts of time in meetings and in generating repetitive and often meaningless data and reports to make our precinct of the bureaucracy look productive.

Government defined

Or just about every business I've ever been a part of.

I'm not saying government isn't bureaucratic, just that I mean come on every business I've ever been a part of has a budget.

I would like it if the centers related to accountability and science were more transparent, though.

Also, subby it's the ORI, the office of research integrity, not the OSI.

When a business does it they're only wasting their own money.


Ahh the "it's MY money" argument.

So when that business later has to decide if they should downsize you and/or not give you a bonus or raise or whatever, do you think that waste of money isn't in some way related to you?

It does of course vary by company. Some of the greedy ones will fire you or freeze bonuses even if they have a good year, but the good ones will give you better bonuses and raises for improved profits. Both ways, it is in some way your money.

The government does in fact make budgetary and cost benefit decisions like this, decisions that often piss you and me off. For example, the Justice Dept decides it would be incredibly costly and a waste of its budgetary resources to put 30 high level executives on trial for defrauding the American people of billions when they could go after 2000 lower level guys. They choose the latter.

I'm not saying the government doesn't have levels of bureaucracy or that politics isn't involved. But politics exists in any organization, and so does bureaucracy, to varying degrees.
 
2014-03-13 12:58:39 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-03-13 01:01:11 PM  

bdub77: hasty ambush: We spend exorbitant amounts of time in meetings and in generating repetitive and often meaningless data and reports to make our precinct of the bureaucracy look productive.

Government defined

Or just about every business I've ever been a part of.

I'm not saying government isn't bureaucratic, just that I mean come on every business I've ever been a part of has a budget.

I would like it if the centers related to accountability and science were more transparent, though.

Also, subby it's the ORI, the office of research integrity, not the OSI.


You know how I know you've never seen "The Six Million Dollar Man"?
 
2014-03-13 01:06:31 PM  

Cybernetic: bdub77: hasty ambush: We spend exorbitant amounts of time in meetings and in generating repetitive and often meaningless data and reports to make our precinct of the bureaucracy look productive.

Government defined

Or just about every business I've ever been a part of.

I'm not saying government isn't bureaucratic, just that I mean come on every business I've ever been a part of has a budget.

I would like it if the centers related to accountability and science were more transparent, though.

Also, subby it's the ORI, the office of research integrity, not the OSI.

You know how I know you've never seen "The Six Million Dollar Man"?


Might have seen a few reruns but yes past my time.

So what you're saying is, it's just a terrible joke?
 
2014-03-13 01:17:05 PM  

bdub77: Cybernetic: bdub77: hasty ambush: We spend exorbitant amounts of time in meetings and in generating repetitive and often meaningless data and reports to make our precinct of the bureaucracy look productive.

Government defined

Or just about every business I've ever been a part of.

I'm not saying government isn't bureaucratic, just that I mean come on every business I've ever been a part of has a budget.

I would like it if the centers related to accountability and science were more transparent, though.

Also, subby it's the ORI, the office of research integrity, not the OSI.

You know how I know you've never seen "The Six Million Dollar Man"?

Might have seen a few reruns but yes past my time.

So what you're saying is, it's just a terrible joke?


It's a "reference". Because that sounds better than "terrible joke".
 
2014-03-13 01:51:01 PM  
I think Subby took some time from studying for his Cisco Cert to write this headline.
 
2014-03-13 01:55:37 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-03-13 01:58:25 PM  
I was an engineer with the federal government for a while and we didn't have a lot of useless meetings and wheel spinning, probably because we were working on real stuff and getting it out into the field and not having to justify our phony baloney jobs. In talking to people now doing my old job, though, it sounds like the bureaucratic nightmare this guy describes. Plus, the restrictions put on engineers' computers by the laboratory's IT department would make me quit. The engineers can't install or update squat unless some coke-bottle-glassed geek gives the go-ahead. Try living with that rule in a fast-moving tech environment.
 
2014-03-13 01:59:50 PM  

Lamberts Ho Man: Obvious tag on break?


It's stuck in a meeting.
 
2014-03-13 02:03:16 PM  

jjorsett: I was an engineer with the federal government for a while and we didn't have a lot of useless meetings and wheel spinning, probably because we were working on real stuff and getting it out into the field and not having to justify our phony baloney jobs. In talking to people now doing my old job, though, it sounds like the bureaucratic nightmare this guy describes. Plus, the restrictions put on engineers' computers by the laboratory's IT department would make me quit. The engineers can't install or update squat unless some coke-bottle-glassed geek gives the go-ahead. Try living with that rule in a fast-moving tech environment.


And it is this attitude right here that makes companies completely disregard recommended security procedures from IT and leads to all of the security breaches that you read about.
 
2014-03-13 03:52:03 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x375]


He gets my vote.
 
2014-03-13 04:49:12 PM  
I always say it is way too much session and not enough presentation.
/too obscure?
 
2014-03-13 06:16:51 PM  
Came for various Venture references, leaving satisfied.
 
2014-03-13 09:54:58 PM  
Oscar Goldman has always been my favorite fictional government official.
 
2014-03-13 11:43:40 PM  

Cybernetic: [upload.wikimedia.org image 463x599]


Stopped by for this, leaving satisfied.

/we can rebuild him
 
2014-03-14 06:53:10 AM  
the government has this notion that tax payer revinue is inexhastable...
till they find the tax payers leaving the country...
Bolivia anyone?
 
2014-03-14 07:34:22 AM  

labman: That made me laugh.  Wonder how many people will get the reference without having to google the name?


Ditto - thought of Oscar a little while ago, for some ungodly reason

/breaking up, breaking up!
 
2014-03-14 08:30:37 AM  

bdub77: So when that business later has to decide if they should downsize you and/or not give you a bonus or raise or whatever, do you think that waste of money isn't in some way related to you?

It does of course vary by company. Some of the greedy ones will fire you or freeze bonuses even if they have a good year, but the good ones will give you better bonuses and raises for improved profits. Both ways, it is in some way your money.


Actually, my employer doesn't owe me a job, just like the millions of corporations that don't employ me don't owe me a job.
 
2014-03-14 10:19:40 AM  
What, no Fallout:New Vegas reference? Fark I am disappoint.
 
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