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2014-03-13 10:16:58 AM
Wow, lotta Prime hate this week.
 
2014-03-13 10:18:15 AM
Mine renewed two weeks ago, and they added a month for free because of delayed shipping on one of my items.

/Yea, still worth it
 
2014-03-13 10:21:01 AM
I wish there was a way Amazon could up it to $129 a year for the entitled, idiotic notochords who read and write for The Consumerist.
 
2014-03-13 10:22:46 AM
What's the overlap level between netflix instant and prime?

As in, is it a total waste to have both or not?
 
2014-03-13 10:26:49 AM

Tigger: What's the overlap level between netflix instant and prime?

As in, is it a total waste to have both or not?


There is some overlap, but not too much. Most of the networks have exclusivity contracts with one or the other. You're more likely to find the same movies than TV shows.
 
2014-03-13 10:29:04 AM

Tigger: What's the overlap level between netflix instant and prime?

As in, is it a total waste to have both or not?


Mostly a total waste. Netflix is better in almost every way except the user interface on certain applications like Roku. Netflix typically has all years of whatever TV programs they offer, where Prime will only give you a year or two free. There are some things that don't overlap though.

We mostly use prime because of the shipping stuff, the movies are just a bonus. I like that for 4 bucks more I can have stuff shipped next day.
 
2014-03-13 10:41:02 AM
If you have an older receiver like mine (that only does Dolby Digital and DTS, not this DD+ stuff), Amazon is way better than Netflix for audio.  Netflix is all DD+, so I have to watch Netflix stuff in stereo.  I get 5.1 from Amazon and pretty much everyone else streaming.  So yes, I'm sticking with Prime. even though Netflix definitely has the edge in the library of stuff (but for how long remains to be seen).
 
2014-03-13 10:43:13 AM

bdub77: Tigger: What's the overlap level between netflix instant and prime?

As in, is it a total waste to have both or not?

Mostly a total waste. Netflix is better in almost every way except the user interface on certain applications like Roku. Netflix typically has all years of whatever TV programs they offer, where Prime will only give you a year or two free. There are some things that don't overlap though.

We mostly use prime because of the shipping stuff, the movies are just a bonus. I like that for 4 bucks more I can have stuff shipped next day.


Guess the only way it's worth it is if you plan to do at least like 14-16 orders a year thru Amazon? That's like $6-8 or so for normal shipping usually I believe.

Got to say though, I don't order that much shiat, so I can't imagine it's worth it. Often times when I do order it's stuff over $39 and I plan ahead so I go with the free shipping and wait the week... No biggie to me.
 
2014-03-13 10:45:13 AM

KellyX: bdub77: Tigger: What's the overlap level between netflix instant and prime?

As in, is it a total waste to have both or not?

Mostly a total waste. Netflix is better in almost every way except the user interface on certain applications like Roku. Netflix typically has all years of whatever TV programs they offer, where Prime will only give you a year or two free. There are some things that don't overlap though.

We mostly use prime because of the shipping stuff, the movies are just a bonus. I like that for 4 bucks more I can have stuff shipped next day.

Guess the only way it's worth it is if you plan to do at least like 14-16 orders a year thru Amazon? That's like $6-8 or so for normal shipping usually I believe.

Got to say though, I don't order that much shiat, so I can't imagine it's worth it. Often times when I do order it's stuff over $39 and I plan ahead so I go with the free shipping and wait the week... No biggie to me.


We used it a lot for things like diapers (it's not recommended to wait 10 days for diapers unless you're a good planner). I haven't looked at our order history but it's at least 30-40 orders a year. Plus it's 2-day shipping.
 
2014-03-13 10:45:57 AM
I would like to like Amazon Prime video, but non-availability on my WDTV Live and Android tablets, makes it more of a curiosity than really useful. Being the Prime video is probably a big motivator behind the rate hike, I'll have to think really hard about keeping Prime next year if there's still not an Android app.
 
2014-03-13 10:46:18 AM

bdub77: KellyX: bdub77: Tigger: What's the overlap level between netflix instant and prime?

As in, is it a total waste to have both or not?

Mostly a total waste. Netflix is better in almost every way except the user interface on certain applications like Roku. Netflix typically has all years of whatever TV programs they offer, where Prime will only give you a year or two free. There are some things that don't overlap though.

We mostly use prime because of the shipping stuff, the movies are just a bonus. I like that for 4 bucks more I can have stuff shipped next day.

Guess the only way it's worth it is if you plan to do at least like 14-16 orders a year thru Amazon? That's like $6-8 or so for normal shipping usually I believe.

Got to say though, I don't order that much shiat, so I can't imagine it's worth it. Often times when I do order it's stuff over $39 and I plan ahead so I go with the free shipping and wait the week... No biggie to me.

We used it a lot for things like diapers (it's not recommended to wait 10 days for diapers unless you're a good planner). I haven't looked at our order history but it's at least 30-40 orders a year. Plus it's 2-day shipping.


Well, I reckon if you order that much stuff, then yea, it'd be worth it. You're just paying them in advance for shipping at that point really.
 
2014-03-13 10:46:54 AM

bdub77: We mostly use prime because of the shipping stuff, the movies are just a bonus. I like that for 4 bucks more I can have stuff shipped next day.


They took that away some time ago.  It's minimum of $2.99 then increases depending on the size and weight.  I just got an aerogarden Ultra yesterday and for next day it was $11.99.  Small stuff is still $3.99, I haven't found one of the $2.99 items yet.
 
2014-03-13 10:48:22 AM

KellyX: bdub77: KellyX: bdub77: Tigger: What's the overlap level between netflix instant and prime?

As in, is it a total waste to have both or not?

Mostly a total waste. Netflix is better in almost every way except the user interface on certain applications like Roku. Netflix typically has all years of whatever TV programs they offer, where Prime will only give you a year or two free. There are some things that don't overlap though.

We mostly use prime because of the shipping stuff, the movies are just a bonus. I like that for 4 bucks more I can have stuff shipped next day.

Guess the only way it's worth it is if you plan to do at least like 14-16 orders a year thru Amazon? That's like $6-8 or so for normal shipping usually I believe.

Got to say though, I don't order that much shiat, so I can't imagine it's worth it. Often times when I do order it's stuff over $39 and I plan ahead so I go with the free shipping and wait the week... No biggie to me.

We used it a lot for things like diapers (it's not recommended to wait 10 days for diapers unless you're a good planner). I haven't looked at our order history but it's at least 30-40 orders a year. Plus it's 2-day shipping.

Well, I reckon if you order that much stuff, then yea, it'd be worth it. You're just paying them in advance for shipping at that point really.


I think the scam probably is just like most things of this nature (like year passes and such), they're hoping you use it less than it ends up costing them so they bank the extra money. And I'm sure plenty of people get it and think "hey, I'll use it enough to be worth it!" and then end up only ordering 2-3 things that year.

I'd also point out this is probably Amazon's way of hoping you'll make at least that many orders a year too to justify it.
 
2014-03-13 10:49:29 AM
Received my email yesterday notifying me of the increase.  Doesn't even kick in next month, the increase goes into effect April 2015.  Still worth it, though.  I share the Prime membership with my wife and older daughter, and we order a lot of stuff between the three of us.  The streaming movies and a free book each month are just bonuses. For all of the complaints of "MAH PACKIJ DIDN'T GET HERE IN TOO DAIS!" I hear, every Prime item we've ever ordered has arrived in two days or less.
 
2014-03-13 10:49:32 AM

TNel: bdub77: We mostly use prime because of the shipping stuff, the movies are just a bonus. I like that for 4 bucks more I can have stuff shipped next day.

They took that away some time ago.  It's minimum of $2.99 then increases depending on the size and weight.  I just got an aerogarden Ultra yesterday and for next day it was $11.99.  Small stuff is still $3.99, I haven't found one of the $2.99 items yet.


It'd be hard to justify $4 for anything for next day, that shiat isn't cheap cause of plane fuel.
 
2014-03-13 10:49:32 AM
Guess I will just have to double down on my non perishable groceries that I get from them, including toilet paper etc.  The time and gas that it saves me from having to go to the grocery store (even though it is only a couple of miles away) is worth it if I can wait.

Also, with Prime, no more shopping list! As soon as I notice that I need something, I pull out the app and order it.
 
2014-03-13 10:51:02 AM

KellyX: Well, I reckon if you order that much stuff, then yea, it'd be worth it. You're just paying them in advance for shipping at that point really.


That's exactly what it is- an annual fee for shipping. And because we've already paid it, my household uses Amazon for, well, just about everything we can. It's a brilliant business model, really- have me pay $80 (or $99) for convenience, then watch me use your service for as many purchases as I can imagine.

The video stuff is just spiking the football, at that point.
 
2014-03-13 10:54:11 AM

KellyX: I think the scam probably is just like most things of this nature (like year passes and such), they're hoping you use it less than it ends up costing them so they bank the extra money. And I'm sure plenty of people get it and think "hey, I'll use it enough to be worth it!" and then end up only ordering 2-3 things that year.

I'd also point out this is probably Amazon's way of hoping you'll make at least that many orders a year too to justify it.


It's not.  Amazon has shared stats in the which show Prime members purchase far more than non-members.  The brand loyalty more than makes up for the free shipping.

I think the $20 increase is reasonable, given that Prime members now get a hell of a lot more than free shipping.
 
2014-03-13 10:54:38 AM

KellyX: It'd be hard to justify $4 for anything for next day, that shiat isn't cheap cause of plane fuel.


There are enough distribution centers that most items never get on a plane.
 
2014-03-13 10:55:11 AM

The Crepes of Wrath: Received my email yesterday notifying me of the increase.  Doesn't even kick in next month, the increase goes into effect April 2015.  Still worth it, though.  I share the Prime membership with my wife and older daughter, and we order a lot of stuff between the three of us.  The streaming movies and a free book each month are just bonuses. For all of the complaints of "MAH PACKIJ DIDN'T GET HERE IN TOO DAIS!" I hear, every Prime item we've ever ordered has arrived in two days or less.


Yeah, depending on when I pre-order stuff, I've wound up getting DVDs that were due to be released on a Tuesday delivered Monday afternoon.
 
2014-03-13 10:56:25 AM

bdub77: Mostly a total waste. Netflix is better in almost every way except the user interface on certain applications like Roku



IMHO Netflix interface is substantially better than on the new Roku 3, not the least of which is the ability to have different profiles and watchlists on the same account.

The Prime subscription is still worth it me at the new price, but not by much.  Hopefully they have some new perks/products coming down the develpment pipeline.    A PRIME streaming/gaming box seems inevitable.
 
2014-03-13 10:56:39 AM

The Crepes of Wrath: Received my email yesterday notifying me of the increase.  Doesn't even kick in next month, the increase goes into effect April 2015.  Still worth it, though.  I share the Prime membership with my wife and older daughter, and we order a lot of stuff between the three of us.  The streaming movies and a free book each month are just bonuses. For all of the complaints of "MAH PACKIJ DIDN'T GET HERE IN TOO DAIS!" I hear, every Prime item we've ever ordered has arrived in two days or less.


Most of the complaints don't have anything to do with Amazon anyway. Usually it's because UPS either farked up or half the airports in the country are snowbound. Once the package goes out the door, it's on UPS or FedEx to make the 2 day guarantee that they promised Amazon.
 
2014-03-13 10:57:24 AM
We're paid up to the end of the year and hell yeah, it's still worth it.  i abuse the hell out of that 2 day shipping.
 
2014-03-13 10:57:32 AM

TNel: There are enough distribution centers that most items never get on a plane.


Need to finish my thought before hitting enter.  There's one an hour from my house and it could be same day if they wanted to by just getting the package onto the UPS truck early enough in the morning.  Most of the time I notice that if I use 2 day it won't ship to the evening or night but if it's next day they ship it out immediately.  Or they give the pacage to USPS to deliver it in 2 days because if it's in the same territory it's 2 days.
 
2014-03-13 10:58:06 AM

The Crepes of Wrath: For all of the complaints of "MAH PACKIJ DIDN'T GET HERE IN TOO DAIS!" I hear, every Prime item we've ever ordered has arrived in two days or less.


Emphasis on the "or less". I ordered a hard drive for my NAS at 6:30 in the evening; it was delivered the next day at 12 noon. It took longer for the RAID to sync than for the hard drive to be delivered.

I also love the subscription services. Like, I know I always need dog food, so I set up a subscription for dog food. Now I never need to think about it -- when the food gets close to running out, a new case magically shows up on my doorstep.
 
2014-03-13 10:59:12 AM

Tigger: What's the overlap level between netflix instant and prime?

As in, is it a total waste to have both or not?


Amazon Prime has The Americans on streaming, which Netflix does not. That alone is worth $99.
 
2014-03-13 10:59:47 AM

TNel: There are enough distribution centers that most items never get on a plane.


And in some parts of the country delivery for two day items ends up being one day due to close distribution centers.

/if I order something to a 7-11 Amazon locker and that items sits in the Las Vegas distribution center - I always get it next day
 
2014-03-13 11:00:08 AM

bdub77: KellyX: bdub77: Tigger: What's the overlap level between netflix instant and prime?

As in, is it a total waste to have both or not?

Mostly a total waste. Netflix is better in almost every way except the user interface on certain applications like Roku. Netflix typically has all years of whatever TV programs they offer, where Prime will only give you a year or two free. There are some things that don't overlap though.

We mostly use prime because of the shipping stuff, the movies are just a bonus. I like that for 4 bucks more I can have stuff shipped next day.

Guess the only way it's worth it is if you plan to do at least like 14-16 orders a year thru Amazon? That's like $6-8 or so for normal shipping usually I believe.

Got to say though, I don't order that much shiat, so I can't imagine it's worth it. Often times when I do order it's stuff over $39 and I plan ahead so I go with the free shipping and wait the week... No biggie to me.

We used it a lot for things like diapers (it's not recommended to wait 10 days for diapers unless you're a good planner). I haven't looked at our order history but it's at least 30-40 orders a year. Plus it's 2-day shipping.


That.

The wife and I probably order enough stuff for ourselves to make it worthwhile, but oh boy did we make our money back on the kid's stuff.
 
2014-03-13 11:00:31 AM
Netflix still Rulz.  and Hulu Plus needs to tone down the commercials a little and slim down their bloated channel browser.


and Roku Rulz too.
 
2014-03-13 11:01:11 AM

KellyX: bdub77: Tigger: What's the overlap level between netflix instant and prime?

As in, is it a total waste to have both or not?

Mostly a total waste. Netflix is better in almost every way except the user interface on certain applications like Roku. Netflix typically has all years of whatever TV programs they offer, where Prime will only give you a year or two free. There are some things that don't overlap though.

We mostly use prime because of the shipping stuff, the movies are just a bonus. I like that for 4 bucks more I can have stuff shipped next day.

Guess the only way it's worth it is if you plan to do at least like 14-16 orders a year thru Amazon? That's like $6-8 or so for normal shipping usually I believe.

Got to say though, I don't order that much shiat, so I can't imagine it's worth it. Often times when I do order it's stuff over $39 and I plan ahead so I go with the free shipping and wait the week... No biggie to me.


i use both netflix and prime.  i don't order very much stuff, but I recently bought a coffee machine on amazon that was $100 off for prime subscribers.  so, that, and the free shipping, more than paid for the year of prime.  i rarely see unique pricing for prime subscribers, usually just free shipping.  but, i double and triple checked, the only way to get that $100 off for that one item (which was sold out, but I still got it in 4 days) was by logging in with prime.

my wife almost exclusively watches prime.  i almost exclusively watch netflix.  i don't know why. i think, she likes current shows, and i like truly crappy history and crime documentaries.  and I mean, really crappy. i just like indiscriminate moments of potential trivia in the background while i play video games.

/ at 99 a year, that's still under 10 per month.  with netflix, still under 20 per month.  since i don't have tv, this seems like a deal.
 
2014-03-13 11:03:38 AM

bsharitt: I would like to like Amazon Prime video, but non-availability on my WDTV Live and Android tablets, makes it more of a curiosity than really useful. Being the Prime video is probably a big motivator behind the rate hike, I'll have to think really hard about keeping Prime next year if there's still not an Android app.


I don't get the lack of an Android app, unless they are using some screwy form of DRM that requires some special code they added to their own version of Android. Makes no sense because they already have the core of the app built.
 
2014-03-13 11:03:59 AM
I make it worth it during the year then treat Prime like a $4 whore over Christmas.
 
2014-03-13 11:04:28 AM

pute kisses like a man: KellyX: bdub77: Tigger: What's the overlap level between netflix instant and prime?

As in, is it a total waste to have both or not?

Mostly a total waste. Netflix is better in almost every way except the user interface on certain applications like Roku. Netflix typically has all years of whatever TV programs they offer, where Prime will only give you a year or two free. There are some things that don't overlap though.

We mostly use prime because of the shipping stuff, the movies are just a bonus. I like that for 4 bucks more I can have stuff shipped next day.

Guess the only way it's worth it is if you plan to do at least like 14-16 orders a year thru Amazon? That's like $6-8 or so for normal shipping usually I believe.

Got to say though, I don't order that much shiat, so I can't imagine it's worth it. Often times when I do order it's stuff over $39 and I plan ahead so I go with the free shipping and wait the week... No biggie to me.

i use both netflix and prime.  i don't order very much stuff, but I recently bought a coffee machine on amazon that was $100 off for prime subscribers.  so, that, and the free shipping, more than paid for the year of prime.  i rarely see unique pricing for prime subscribers, usually just free shipping.  but, i double and triple checked, the only way to get that $100 off for that one item (which was sold out, but I still got it in 4 days) was by logging in with prime.

my wife almost exclusively watches prime.  i almost exclusively watch netflix.  i don't know why. i think, she likes current shows, and i like truly crappy history and crime documentaries.  and I mean, really crappy. i just like indiscriminate moments of potential trivia in the background while i play video games.

/ at 99 a year, that's still under 10 per month.  with netflix, still under 20 per month.  since i don't have tv, this seems like a deal.


Are you still getting DVDs from them? Hell, I go streaming only any pay like $8 I think it is a month.
 
2014-03-13 11:04:58 AM

pute kisses like a man: / at 99 a year, that's still under 10 per month. with netflix, still under 20 per month. since i don't have tv, this seems like a deal.


You can also add different accounts to one prime membership (I think up to 4) as long as they ship to the house that opened the prime membership.
 
2014-03-13 11:10:35 AM
Prime is totally worth it for me.  I bought a window air conditioning unit off of Amazon, then didn't need it.  Shipping that monster back and forth easily covered the cost of Prime for a year.
 
2014-03-13 11:13:05 AM
A couple weeks ago I had two hard-drives shipped to replace a couple in my home server that were getting a little long-in-the-tooth.  I ordered them on a Wednesday afternoon and they were sitting in my back porch Thursday at 4pm.  Now it doesn't happen all the time, but it has happened enough that I won't even think about not renewing my Prime membership.

/Prime is awesome.
 
2014-03-13 11:13:30 AM

Tigger: What's the overlap level between netflix instant and prime?

As in, is it a total waste to have both or not?


There is a lot of overlap - when one gets it, the other feels pressured to add it.  Netflix lost the rights to stream some stuff recently, but Amazon still has it, but for new stuff, they both seem to add it at the same time.
 
2014-03-13 11:19:14 AM
Student price is going to $49, still worth it!
 
2014-03-13 11:22:20 AM

flaminio: I also love the subscription services. Like, I know I always need dog food, so I set up a subscription for dog food.


One of my favorite things at Amazon.  We go through a lot of Clif bars every month (z-bars for the kids, builder bars for me).  Instead of grabbing handfuls when grocery shopping every weekend, we get them delivered once each month.  And detergent for the dishwasher and washing machine, and a few other things.
 
2014-03-13 11:24:50 AM
My 75 year old mother had spinal fusion surgery and was laid up for a couple of weeks.

"Hey mom, here's my old iPad with the Amazon streaming app on it, signed in to my account.  Have fun."

Totally worth it.
 
2014-03-13 11:29:27 AM
Totally worth it.
 
2014-03-13 11:33:33 AM

Mad_Radhu: I don't get the lack of an Android app, unless they are using some screwy form of DRM that requires some special code they added to their own version of Android. Makes no sense because they already have the core of the app built.


They want you to buy a Kindle HDX that's why.  I have a 8.9 HDX and it's an amazing tablet.
 
2014-03-13 11:36:01 AM
KellyX:

Guess the only way it's worth it is if you plan to do at least like 14-16 orders a year thru Amazon? That's like $6-8 or so for normal shipping usually I believe.

Got to say though, I don't order that much shiat, so I can't imagine it's worth it. Often times when I do order it's stuff over $39 and I plan ahead so I go with the free shipping and wait the week... No biggie to me.


Once you have Prime, you start ordering more stuff that you would normally head to Target for.  "Oh, look, I'm almost out of shampoo and razors".  Click, there in two days.  "Hey, band <x> is coming out w a new CD in a month".  Click, preorder done.

Yes, that's just what they wanted.  Call me a lemming, then.
 
2014-03-13 11:36:21 AM

bdub77: Netflix typically sometimes has all years of whatever long-gone TV programs they offer


Yes, I love that Netflix gives me the entire series of Frasier but only one season of Venture Brothers.
 
2014-03-13 11:38:09 AM

unlikely: Wow, lotta Prime hate this week.


"Extended warranty?! I can't lose!"

/same vein
 
2014-03-13 11:41:45 AM
I tried Amazon Prime for a month. Too much overlap with Netflix and Netflix has a much bigger selection.
Hulu Plus is a joke. Drop the commercials and I'll THINK of paying, but I'm not falling for your double dipping sh*t. You make us pay a monthly fee PLUS have tons of commercials. No.
 
2014-03-13 11:49:07 AM
Also, did you see the link at the bottom comparing the services? Netflix wins.
http://consumerist.com/2014/03/04/who-wins-the-streaming-service-war s- netflix-pretty-much/

consumermediallc.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-13 11:49:10 AM
I will be renewing mine. I had a 100lb generator shipped via Prime. Ordered on Thursday, arrived on Saturday, the day before Sandy hit. That alone paid for the Amazon membership. We also watch the videos and use the kindle.
 
2014-03-13 11:49:16 AM

PainInTheASP: A couple weeks ago I had two hard-drives shipped to replace a couple in my home server that were getting a little long-in-the-tooth.  I ordered them on a Wednesday afternoon and they were sitting in my back porch Thursday at 4pm.  Now it doesn't happen all the time, but it has happened enough that I won't even think about not renewing my Prime membership.

/Prime is awesome.


Amazon is awesome, prime is just a feather in their cap. I have had issues with Amazon in the past that were corrected very quickly. I ordered a cab for my snowblower that was missing a piece, they overnighted a replacement and arranged for UPS pickup after I got the part and issued a $20 credit towards my next order. After about 2 months of my nephew using his Kindle Fire the USB cable was a bit wonky (like most micro USB cables get) and i tried another charger which was also acting up (both would charge my phone) and i thought it might be an issue with the Fire and contacted customer service. they overnighted me a replacement cable as well as the AC to USB accessory to try that first and it worked. guess the angle of the plug just makes it a bit more sensitive to a lose connection.

Prime is just an added incentive for me to buy from them.
 
2014-03-13 11:52:07 AM

bdub77: Tigger: What's the overlap level between netflix instant and prime?

As in, is it a total waste to have both or not?

Mostly a total waste. Netflix is better in almost every way except the user interface on certain applications like Roku. Netflix typically has all years of whatever TV programs they offer, where Prime will only give you a year or two free. There are some things that don't overlap though.

We mostly use prime because of the shipping stuff, the movies are just a bonus. I like that for 4 bucks more I can have stuff shipped next day.



Netlfix, Amazon, etc work great/fast on Roku 1, 2, and 3 (the latest ones)   the only one that seems bloated, slow is Hulu Plus on Roku anyway.  i don't know how well it works on other devices.

so its not roku. its Hulu Plus Bloatware.

Roku is the best i've used/seen yet.

they have the Roku Media Player channel that works great with DLNA.  my Asus router has a dlna server built in, so i just hook up a thumb drive to my router and upload from my PC anything i want to stream to my Roku wirelessly.


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