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(Sun Sentinel)   Teachers will now be allowed to pack heat and stand their ground against miserable, sassmouth sixth graders   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 56
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2014-03-13 09:31:04 AM  
We do not believe that arming administrators and teachers is the right solution to ensure the safety of our schools

I say arm the creepy janitor. Then everyone will stay in line.
 
2014-03-13 09:41:58 AM  
You only have to shoot one or two and the rest will fall in line.
 
2014-03-13 09:44:11 AM  
Protect the children.

Difficulty level: No protecting them allowed.
 
2014-03-13 09:44:23 AM  
Headline is a little alarmist and misleading but it's still a stupid idea.
 
2014-03-13 09:44:40 AM  
I love this quote:

"They don't even have a water pistol in which to charge the gates of hell ... to confront this monster," he said.

That seems like a sane argument to me.  Melodrama much?
 
2014-03-13 09:45:09 AM  
Guns + children + Florida. I'm sure this will be an interesting thread full of logical and well-mannered participants.
 
2014-03-13 09:45:10 AM  

Sybarite: We do not believe that arming administrators and teachers is the right solution to ensure the safety of our schools

I say arm the creepy janitor. Then everyone will stay in line.


One and done.
 
2014-03-13 09:46:43 AM  
groundskeeper willie + blunderbuss
 
2014-03-13 09:47:08 AM  

Sybarite: We do not believe that arming administrators and teachers is the right solution to ensure the safety of our schools

I say arm the creepy janitor. Then everyone will stay in line.


If I may indulge into CSB territory...

Our high school janitor really was that creepy guy.  Tall, gaunt face, long bony fingers, old yet not a spot of grey...  He only once smiled in the presence of any students.  We were in the lunch room, and two guys got into a fight in the middle of the cafeteria.  One guy tossed over the table, and the other ended up with a broken tooth.  While the lunch ladies and one teacher tried to get past everyone to break it up there was Janitor Joesph, who was the closest and as far as we could tell the first authority figure to actually see the fight start, not having moved from his spot and the biggest, scariest looking grin I've ever seen.  Yellowed teeth from either 40 years of smoking or a lifetime of eating the rotting souls of this world's damned, and just...  Silently laughing.

Still creeps my friends and I out to think about it.  It's like he was feeding on it like the slime from Ghostbusters 2.
 
2014-03-13 09:47:27 AM  
Checks tag...this will end well.
 
2014-03-13 09:47:37 AM  
packing heat?  Hell, I'd want lasguns, claymores (both kinds), powered exoskeleton, nun-chucks, pepper spray

/and that's just for the commute, never mind the little monsters
 
2014-03-13 09:48:31 AM  

Mr.Tangent: Headline is a little alarmist and misleading but it's still a stupid idea.




FTA, Robert Runcie. "We need to continue working with local law enforcement, school police, school resource officers, campus security specialists and monitors to maintain safe learning environments."

Wishful thinking is clearly the solution, since it has been working so well lately.
 
2014-03-13 09:49:28 AM  
Rep. Greg Steube: Brave defender of what he thinks the Constitution says.
 
2014-03-13 09:50:19 AM  
when i was in high school, we had someone with a gun.  he was a cop.  in uniform.  there everyday.

that was the 90s.

this is merely a way to get at least one person from every school to buy a gun.  so, that's increase in sales.  then, as guns are more common, this new market of soccer mom is going to be buying guns.  this is marketing.  the NRA is the best lobby every.  i want to start selling guns.  for as long as the NRA keeps the kool-aid flowing, gun sellers are going to get insanely rich.

/ this is not for or against that amendment.  i don't care.  this is just a lesson for all you marketing and business strategists.  the NRA wrote the book.
 
2014-03-13 09:51:46 AM  
Seriously? I am a teacher. We are some of the last people who should have guns at work!!

Also, how on earth do you secure them from the kids while making them easy to access in an emergency?
 
2014-03-13 09:52:42 AM  
Will kids still be kicked out of school for making pop-tart guns?
or will teachers just shoot them now because they feel threatened?

/my wife teaches 6th grade, I'm sure there are a few kids she wouldn't miss.
//she hates guns though, so the kids are safe.
 
2014-03-13 09:52:51 AM  

Shadowknight: Sybarite: We do not believe that arming administrators and teachers is the right solution to ensure the safety of our schools

I say arm the creepy janitor. Then everyone will stay in line.

If I may indulge into CSB territory...

Our high school janitor really was that creepy guy.  Tall, gaunt face, long bony fingers, old yet not a spot of grey...  He only once smiled in the presence of any students.  We were in the lunch room, and two guys got into a fight in the middle of the cafeteria.  One guy tossed over the table, and the other ended up with a broken tooth.  While the lunch ladies and one teacher tried to get past everyone to break it up there was Janitor Joesph, who was the closest and as far as we could tell the first authority figure to actually see the fight start, not having moved from his spot and the biggest, scariest looking grin I've ever seen.  Yellowed teeth from either 40 years of smoking or a lifetime of eating the rotting souls of this world's damned, and just...  Silently laughing.

Still creeps my friends and I out to think about it.  It's like he was feeding on it like the slime from Ghostbusters 2.


For some reason, this guy was the first thing that popped in my head after I read that...

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-13 09:54:30 AM  
There is no chance this will ever be abused or end in tragedy.
 
2014-03-13 09:54:42 AM  
The only missing step is to actually help the kids exercise their constitutional rights with mandatory gun training classes so they hit what they are aiming at and all will be well in the world.
 
2014-03-13 10:07:13 AM  
1. Some parents react by removing their kids from school
2. School population declines
3. Opportunity to further cut education funding.
4. Profit!
 
2014-03-13 10:11:36 AM  
Gun nuts... ugh... It makes me sad that so many people have this sick fetish of wanting to kill another human being...
 
2014-03-13 10:14:08 AM  
How long before teachers are fired for not carrying a firearm?
 
2014-03-13 10:15:14 AM  
"Does anyone know the name of the country the Nazis first invaded in 1939? JOHNNY?"
"What?"
"What country you from?"
"What?"
"WHAT AIN'T NO COUNTRY I EVER HEARD OF. THEY SPEAK ENGLISH IN WHAT?"
"What?"

"English motherf*cker DO YOU SPEAK IT?"
"Yes!"
"Then you know what I am saying?"
"Yes!"
"Describe what Hitler looks like."
"What?"
"Say what again. SAY WHAT again! I dare you, I double dare you motherf*cker! Say what one more time."
 
2014-03-13 10:23:12 AM  
To-day is a red-letter day for smartassed sixth and seventh grade boys everywhere.


img.fark.net

March 13, 1781
Uranus, Discovered


"Hey, teacher, are we going to study Uranus today?"

"Boy, I sure am tired of looking at pictures of Uranus."

Etc.
 
2014-03-13 10:23:23 AM  
"Packing heat"? Isn't that phrase a little old fashioned?
 
2014-03-13 10:25:51 AM  

pute kisses like a man: when i was in high school, we had someone with a gun.  he was a cop.  in uniform.  there everyday.

that was the 90s.

this is merely a way to get at least one person from every school to buy a gun.  so, that's increase in sales.  then, as guns are more common, this new market of soccer mom is going to be buying guns.  this is marketing.  the NRA is the best lobby every.  i want to start selling guns.  for as long as the NRA keeps the kool-aid flowing, gun sellers are going to get insanely rich.

/ this is not for or against that amendment.  i don't care.  this is just a lesson for all you marketing and business strategists.  the NRA wrote the book.


When i was in high school in the 90s there were lot of people there were guns. They were the teachers and students. Officially of course it was frowned on and anybody who got caught got in trouble but you know what? We never had any trouble with gangs or school shootings unless you count the one shop teacher that accidentally shot himself in his foot while working on his gun. I'll grant you this was in Tennessee and some of those guns were used for hunting on the way to and from school, lots of them were dumb kids trying to impress friends, and most of them weren't loaded. I believe the school even had a shooting team at the time even though it isn't listed now. The student handbook even listed info for how to bring a weapon into the school and check it for after school/club activities and pick it up later.
 
2014-03-13 10:35:18 AM  
For the life of me, I will never ever understand the logic behind these things.
 
2014-03-13 10:43:18 AM  

Hacker_X: pute kisses like a man: when i was in high school, we had someone with a gun.  he was a cop.  in uniform.  there everyday.

that was the 90s.

this is merely a way to get at least one person from every school to buy a gun.  so, that's increase in sales.  then, as guns are more common, this new market of soccer mom is going to be buying guns.  this is marketing.  the NRA is the best lobby every.  i want to start selling guns.  for as long as the NRA keeps the kool-aid flowing, gun sellers are going to get insanely rich.

/ this is not for or against that amendment.  i don't care.  this is just a lesson for all you marketing and business strategists.  the NRA wrote the book.

When i was in high school in the 90s there were lot of people there were guns. They were the teachers and students. Officially of course it was frowned on and anybody who got caught got in trouble but you know what? We never had any trouble with gangs or school shootings unless you count the one shop teacher that accidentally shot himself in his foot while working on his gun. I'll grant you this was in Tennessee and some of those guns were used for hunting on the way to and from school, lots of them were dumb kids trying to impress friends, and most of them weren't loaded. I believe the school even had a shooting team at the time even though it isn't listed now. The student handbook even listed info for how to bring a weapon into the school and check it for after school/club activities and pick it up later.


When I was in school, the kids that could drive often had shotguns and rifles on gun racks in their trucks.  It was just normal.  I don't recall anyone carrying one into the school.  Times change though.

Would also like to know how would a teacher keep the gun handy in case of an emergency, and it still be secured from students.
 
2014-03-13 10:52:00 AM  

Hacker_X: The student handbook even listed info for how to bring a weapon into the school and check it for after school/club activities and pick it up later.


That's when you are dealing with reasonable, responsible, sane people. They respect others and understand why there are rules that should be followed. Except for accidents, they don't hurt people with guns.

Some mentally ill people and criminals don't care about others, don't follow rules and should not have guns. There are laws prohibiting them from having guns, but they won't obey the law. The penalties for using guns in crimes do not deter their use of guns, just make it easier to punish them after the fact.
 
2014-03-13 10:56:42 AM  
Because police responding will know automatically which of the armed people is the "good guy".

/This kind of dumbassery is so farking pants-on-head-on fire potato that even Arizona's legislature won't consider it.
 
2014-03-13 10:59:50 AM  

Unoriginal_Username: Will kids still be kicked out of school for making pop-tart guns?
or will teachers just shoot them now because they feel threatened?

/my wife teaches 6th grade, I'm sure there are a few kids she wouldn't miss.
//she hates guns though, so the kids are safe.


I'm sorry, but little D'Auntel had a pop-tart gun that looked so much like a real gun, that I felt threatened. So, I had to stand my ground and put the double-tap on him. Oops.
 
2014-03-13 10:59:53 AM  

packingheat: "Packing heat"? Isn't that phrase a little old fashioned?


You use it if you are cornswaggling farkers, so it' relevant.
 
2014-03-13 11:03:29 AM  

stonicus: Gun nuts... ugh... It makes me sad that so many people have this sick fetish of wanting to kill another human being...


Not all gun owners are nuts. Do I own a few? Yes. Do I want to kill anyone? No. Is this law stupid? You bet your ass it is stupid. Seriously, Florida, WTF?
 
2014-03-13 11:04:16 AM  
I thought schools were designated gun-free zones?
 
2014-03-13 11:06:29 AM  

rkiller1: I thought schools were designated gun-free zones?


Many rural schools still have gun clubs, so it is probably related to where you live and who is gun-free.
 
2014-03-13 11:16:50 AM  

whosits_112: stonicus: Gun nuts... ugh... It makes me sad that so many people have this sick fetish of wanting to kill another human being...

Not all gun owners are nuts. Do I own a few? Yes. Do I want to kill anyone? No. Is this law stupid? You bet your ass it is stupid. Seriously, Florida, WTF?


Duh.  I never said gun owners.  I said gun nuts.  You're not a gun nut?  Then I wasn't speaking about you...

I just hate those people who are all like, "I sleep with my .45 under my pillow... I can't wait for some punk to try to break into my house so I can show em what's what!"  People like that make me sick.
 
2014-03-13 11:23:44 AM  
And nothing will change.
 
2014-03-13 11:36:42 AM  
Teachers will, also, receive a free large soft drink if they shoot a six grader with a nose piercing.
 
2014-03-13 11:44:22 AM  

Shadowknight: Sybarite: We do not believe that arming administrators and teachers is the right solution to ensure the safety of our schools

I say arm the creepy janitor. Then everyone will stay in line.

If I may indulge into CSB territory...

Our high school janitor really was that creepy guy.  Tall, gaunt face, long bony fingers, old yet not a spot of grey...  He only once smiled in the presence of any students.  We were in the lunch room, and two guys got into a fight in the middle of the cafeteria.  One guy tossed over the table, and the other ended up with a broken tooth.  While the lunch ladies and one teacher tried to get past everyone to break it up there was Janitor Joesph, who was the closest and as far as we could tell the first authority figure to actually see the fight start, not having moved from his spot and the biggest, scariest looking grin I've ever seen.  Yellowed teeth from either 40 years of smoking or a lifetime of eating the rotting souls of this world's damned, and just...  Silently laughing.

Still creeps my friends and I out to think about it.  It's like he was feeding on it like the slime from Ghostbusters 2.


Brrrr... That gave me chills. You should hang on to that one for the Fark Halloween thread.
 
2014-03-13 11:46:15 AM  

Shadowknight: Sybarite: We do not believe that arming administrators and teachers is the right solution to ensure the safety of our schools

I say arm the creepy janitor. Then everyone will stay in line.

If I may indulge into CSB territory...

Our high school janitor really was that creepy guy.  Tall, gaunt face, long bony fingers, old yet not a spot of grey...  He only once smiled in the presence of any students.  We were in the lunch room, and two guys got into a fight in the middle of the cafeteria.  One guy tossed over the table, and the other ended up with a broken tooth.  While the lunch ladies and one teacher tried to get past everyone to break it up there was Janitor Joesph, who was the closest and as far as we could tell the first authority figure to actually see the fight start, not having moved from his spot and the biggest, scariest looking grin I've ever seen.  Yellowed teeth from either 40 years of smoking or a lifetime of eating the rotting souls of this world's damned, and just...  Silently laughing.

Still creeps my friends and I out to think about it.  It's like he was feeding on it like the slime from Ghostbusters 2.


Was his name Malvert?

i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-13 11:48:26 AM  

pkellmey: The only missing step is to actually help the kids exercise their constitutional rights with mandatory gun training classes so they hit what they are aiming at and all will be well in the world.


Not a bad idea, actually. Train them young so all the mystique of the forbidden fruit goes away.
 
2014-03-13 11:50:42 AM  

stonicus: whosits_112: stonicus: Gun nuts... ugh... It makes me sad that so many people have this sick fetish of wanting to kill another human being...

Not all gun owners are nuts. Do I own a few? Yes. Do I want to kill anyone? No. Is this law stupid? You bet your ass it is stupid. Seriously, Florida, WTF?

Duh.  I never said gun owners.  I said gun nuts.  You're not a gun nut?  Then I wasn't speaking about you...

I just hate those people who are all like, "I sleep with my .45 under my pillow... I can't wait for some punk to try to break into my house so I can show em what's what!"  People like that make me sick.


Ok, just sayin'...
/need more caffeine...
 
2014-03-13 11:53:55 AM  

packingheat: "Packing heat"? Isn't that phrase a little old fashioned?


It fits in an old fashioned argument.
 
2014-03-13 11:57:34 AM  

washington-babylon: pkellmey: The only missing step is to actually help the kids exercise their constitutional rights with mandatory gun training classes so they hit what they are aiming at and all will be well in the world.

Not a bad idea, actually. Train them young so all the mystique of the forbidden fruit goes away.


Like sex ed?
 
2014-03-13 12:02:02 PM  

danno_to_infinity: Hell, I'd want lasguns, claymores (both kinds), powered exoskeleton, nun-chucks, pepper spray


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i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-13 12:03:56 PM  
Everything will probably be perfectly fine. Mostly.
 
2014-03-13 12:10:55 PM  
I'm OK with this.  I mean, have you MET today's average 6th grader?  They're farking MONSTERS!!!

/dnrtfa
 
2014-03-13 12:19:28 PM  
Now the little bastards will do there home work.
 
2014-03-13 12:19:46 PM  

Brick-House: You only have to shoot one or two and the rest will fall in line.


My thoughts exactly.  A couple of object lessons will get the little bastards compliant.
 
2014-03-13 12:22:50 PM  

xanadian: I'm OK with this.  I mean, have you MET today's average 6th grader?  They're farking MONSTERS!!!

/dnrtfa


I help coach a Little League team of nearly a dozen 6th graders, who are well-behaved, attentive and funny.  Perhaps because they play baseball they're not average.
 
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