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2014-03-13 08:36:23 AM
"Walking in Memphis" the new euphemism for cheating on your wife.
 
2014-03-13 08:39:57 AM
Did he show her is Silver Thunderbird?

Maybe she had Healing Hands

/Cohnhead
 
2014-03-13 08:42:53 AM
Serious post: I'm relatively new to longterm relationships and I honestly don't know how monogamy is supposed to work. I've been with the same person for almost a year now and while I think she's great, I'm definitely feeling the itch to pursue something new. I wouldn't ever cheat on her (I don't think), but I also feel like an open relationship is the only way to go. Monogamy just feels needlessly restrictive. We only get one go-around; why not enjoy it as much as possible?
 
2014-03-13 08:45:21 AM

Moonraper: Serious post: I'm relatively new to longterm relationships and I honestly don't know how monogamy is supposed to work. I've been with the same person for almost a year now and while I think she's great, I'm definitely feeling the itch to pursue something new. I wouldn't ever cheat on her (I don't think), but I also feel like an open relationship is the only way to go. Monogamy just feels needlessly restrictive. We only get one go-around; why not enjoy it as much as possible?


How would you feel if you walked in on her and another guy? (well, another girl would be perfect, but yaknow).

Be honest now.
 
2014-03-13 08:49:50 AM

You Are All Sheep: Moonraper: Serious post: I'm relatively new to longterm relationships and I honestly don't know how monogamy is supposed to work. I've been with the same person for almost a year now and while I think she's great, I'm definitely feeling the itch to pursue something new. I wouldn't ever cheat on her (I don't think), but I also feel like an open relationship is the only way to go. Monogamy just feels needlessly restrictive. We only get one go-around; why not enjoy it as much as possible?

How would you feel if you walked in on her and another guy? (well, another girl would be perfect, but yaknow).

Be honest now.


You know, I've thought about this a lot. I think I would be okay with it if I knew what was going on. Like, if I actually walked in and discovered it in progress, yeah, I would be pretty pissed. But if we had an arrangement, I think I would be okay with it. (Then again, maybe if it ACTUALLY happened, I would feel completely different about things. But I don't feel like I'm a jealous person, generally. She still hangs around with a fark buddy from before we got together and I'm totally cool with that.)
 
2014-03-13 08:50:34 AM

smoky2010: "Walking in Memphis" the new euphemism for cheating on your wife.


I was getting tired of "hiking the Appalachian Trial".
 
2014-03-13 08:54:26 AM

Moonraper: You Are All Sheep: Moonraper: Serious post: I'm relatively new to longterm relationships and I honestly don't know how monogamy is supposed to work. I've been with the same person for almost a year now and while I think she's great, I'm definitely feeling the itch to pursue something new. I wouldn't ever cheat on her (I don't think), but I also feel like an open relationship is the only way to go. Monogamy just feels needlessly restrictive. We only get one go-around; why not enjoy it as much as possible?

How would you feel if you walked in on her and another guy? (well, another girl would be perfect, but yaknow).

Be honest now.

You know, I've thought about this a lot. I think I would be okay with it if I knew what was going on. Like, if I actually walked in and discovered it in progress, yeah, I would be pretty pissed. But if we had an arrangement, I think I would be okay with it. (Then again, maybe if it ACTUALLY happened, I would feel completely different about things. But I don't feel like I'm a jealous person, generally. She still hangs around with a fark buddy from before we got together and I'm totally cool with that.)


that's the biggest stick.  the wife and I are 'open' and we both don't have jealousy issues.  sex is sex and is fun and stuff.  however, of the people we met, the guy/husband is almost ALWAYS jealous when the wife/girlfriend is partaking.  Of course it's just fine if he's the only one getting strange.  If you think you're going to stray, either suck it up and get some willpower, or sit down and have a nice long talk about the open thing, and set up rules and agreements.  but if you guys think you might get jealous, it isn't going to work.
 
2014-03-13 08:55:46 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Elizabeth Vargas is incredibly beautiful?
 
2014-03-13 08:58:49 AM

You Are All Sheep: Moonraper: You Are All Sheep: Moonraper: Serious post: I'm relatively new to longterm relationships and I honestly don't know how monogamy is supposed to work. I've been with the same person for almost a year now and while I think she's great, I'm definitely feeling the itch to pursue something new. I wouldn't ever cheat on her (I don't think), but I also feel like an open relationship is the only way to go. Monogamy just feels needlessly restrictive. We only get one go-around; why not enjoy it as much as possible?

How would you feel if you walked in on her and another guy? (well, another girl would be perfect, but yaknow).

Be honest now.

You know, I've thought about this a lot. I think I would be okay with it if I knew what was going on. Like, if I actually walked in and discovered it in progress, yeah, I would be pretty pissed. But if we had an arrangement, I think I would be okay with it. (Then again, maybe if it ACTUALLY happened, I would feel completely different about things. But I don't feel like I'm a jealous person, generally. She still hangs around with a fark buddy from before we got together and I'm totally cool with that.)

that's the biggest stick.  the wife and I are 'open' and we both don't have jealousy issues.  sex is sex and is fun and stuff.  however, of the people we met, the guy/husband is almost ALWAYS jealous when the wife/girlfriend is partaking.  Of course it's just fine if he's the only one getting strange.  If you think you're going to stray, either suck it up and get some willpower, or sit down and have a nice long talk about the open thing, and set up rules and agreements.  but if you guys think you might get jealous, it isn't going to work.


Your willpower comment is what I'm really curious about. Like, are any guys actually 100% comfortable in monogamous relationships? Or is it something they've trained themselves to accept and live with? I feel like most married people, men and women, would readily accept an open relationship if it were more socially acceptable. I just can't bear the idea of sleeping with ONE person for the rest of my life, no matter how great she may be.
 
2014-03-13 09:09:57 AM

Moonraper: . She still hangs around with a fark buddy from before we got together and I'm totally cool with that.)


She's totally farking that dude, you know.
 
2014-03-13 09:12:44 AM
Oy vey!
 
2014-03-13 09:13:56 AM
Moonraper: I just can't bear the idea of sleeping with ONE person for the rest of my life, no matter how great she may be..

Then marriage of any kind is your worst enemy.

Just date and have relationships, long-term or not, it's up to you. But to sign a legally-binding contract with someone else and to at the same time hold the attitude you have about monogamy (and there is absolutely nothing wrong with feeling the way you do) will be potentially the biggest mistake you will ever make in your life.

\not being snarky
\\honest advice
\\\not judging
 
2014-03-13 09:17:16 AM

LZeitgeist: Moonraper: I just can't bear the idea of sleeping with ONE person for the rest of my life, no matter how great she may be..

Then marriage of any kind is your worst enemy.

Just date and have relationships, long-term or not, it's up to you. But to sign a legally-binding contract with someone else and to at the same time hold the attitude you have about monogamy (and there is absolutely nothing wrong with feeling the way you do) will be potentially the biggest mistake you will ever make in your life.

\not being snarky
\\honest advice
\\\not judging


Good advice.

Also, just be sure you're having enough good sex with your partner if you are in a monogamous relationship. It helps reduce the itching.

/Bigger question: how does your woman feel about you raping the moon?
//I'm not sure I am OK with that, to be honest
 
2014-03-13 09:19:07 AM

Buttknuckle: Am I the only one who thinks Elizabeth Vargas is incredibly beautiful?


Probably.

Although basement-dwellers on Fark might agree with you.
 
2014-03-13 09:27:18 AM

Moonraper: You Are All Sheep: Moonraper: You Are All Sheep: Moonraper: Serious post: I'm relatively new to longterm relationships and I honestly don't know how monogamy is supposed to work. I've been with the same person for almost a year now and while I think she's great, I'm definitely feeling the itch to pursue something new. I wouldn't ever cheat on her (I don't think), but I also feel like an open relationship is the only way to go. Monogamy just feels needlessly restrictive. We only get one go-around; why not enjoy it as much as possible?

How would you feel if you walked in on her and another guy? (well, another girl would be perfect, but yaknow).

Be honest now.

You know, I've thought about this a lot. I think I would be okay with it if I knew what was going on. Like, if I actually walked in and discovered it in progress, yeah, I would be pretty pissed. But if we had an arrangement, I think I would be okay with it. (Then again, maybe if it ACTUALLY happened, I would feel completely different about things. But I don't feel like I'm a jealous person, generally. She still hangs around with a fark buddy from before we got together and I'm totally cool with that.)

that's the biggest stick.  the wife and I are 'open' and we both don't have jealousy issues.  sex is sex and is fun and stuff.  however, of the people we met, the guy/husband is almost ALWAYS jealous when the wife/girlfriend is partaking.  Of course it's just fine if he's the only one getting strange.  If you think you're going to stray, either suck it up and get some willpower, or sit down and have a nice long talk about the open thing, and set up rules and agreements.  but if you guys think you might get jealous, it isn't going to work.

Your willpower comment is what I'm really curious about. Like, are any guys actually 100% comfortable in monogamous relationships? Or is it something they've trained themselves to accept and live with? I feel like most married people, men and women, would readily accept an ope ...


considering the divorce/infidelity rate in this country, not to mention others, humans were built to have sex.  Yes, you can choose to be with one person for the rest of your life, and it works quite well for a lot of people.  The wife and I will be together until the end of our days, but we occasionally like to dip our toe into other waters.  Think of it this way, we don't consider it cheating and we aren't leaving one another for that.  It's not a lack of willpower, we go years w/o playing with others, it's just...fun.  YMMV, it's entirely and individual thing.
 
2014-03-13 09:30:53 AM
Thanks for all the replies. The funny thing is, after a night of really good sex with my girlfriend, I don't have these thoughts at all. A day or two later the thoughts are back.

It's really just a matter of, do I want to go to my deathbed without having had a threesome? An orgy? Or even just sex with different races? (My small list is comprised solely of caucasian gals.)

I know I should talk to my girlfriend about this, but I'm scared because this is a conversation that could result in the end of our relationship. And that's something I definitely don't want.
 
2014-03-13 09:32:52 AM
It figures. The boy always did put a little too much emphasis on "There's a pretty little thing waiting on the king down in the jungle room."
 
2014-03-13 09:48:34 AM
>> insert Peter Griffin and "Oh My God   Who the Hell Cares?"
this is like caring what the kids in the Drama Club and the AV Squad are up to.  Or watching "Glee".
 
2014-03-13 09:55:03 AM
She's got a ready made excuse for a relapse.
 
2014-03-13 09:56:21 AM
She rode him hard.
 
2014-03-13 10:06:01 AM

You Are All Sheep: Moonraper: Serious post: I'm relatively new to longterm relationships and I honestly don't know how monogamy is supposed to work. I've been with the same person for almost a year now and while I think she's great, I'm definitely feeling the itch to pursue something new. I wouldn't ever cheat on her (I don't think), but I also feel like an open relationship is the only way to go. Monogamy just feels needlessly restrictive. We only get one go-around; why not enjoy it as much as possible?

How would you feel if you walked in on her and another guy? (well, another girl would be perfect, but yaknow).

Be honest now.


It seems to me honesty is of greatest importance in any relationship, and that in open relationships your obligation to be honest with your partner about if you're sleeping around don't go away. The violation here would be in not her not letting her partner know she was inviting another dude etc. back, not in actually inviting the other dude back.
 
2014-03-13 10:13:06 AM
If I've said it once, I've said it a million times. Never trust the word, or sophomore release, of a Best New Artist Grammy winner.
 
2014-03-13 10:22:04 AM
Tell me, are you a christian adulterer, child and I said, "ma'am I am tonight"

/Happily boinking the same woman for 20 years.  I have no need to stray and neither does she.  It would be a marriage ender for sure - we've had that talk and we're cool.
 
2014-03-13 10:34:33 AM

Buttknuckle: Am I the only one who thinks Elizabeth Vargas is incredibly beautiful?


i always thought so.
 
2014-03-13 10:38:25 AM

Moonraper: It's really just a matter of, do I want to go to my deathbed without having had a threesome? An orgy? Or even just sex with different races? (My small list is comprised solely of caucasian gals.)

I know I should talk to my girlfriend about this, but I'm scared because this is a conversation that could result in the end of our relationship. And that's something I definitely don't want.


grow up and explore your fantasies with your partner.  if your partner can't or won't accept what you want to do, then either find a new partner or simply decide that monogamy is ok.  which it is.

//dude, I've been around the block and let me tell you - you aren't missing anything if you are having good sex with someone you care about, and destroying a good relationship because you feel you might want to fark a black chick someday is just goddamned childish.  want some real advice that would save more relationships?  watch porn and jerk off more.
 
2014-03-13 10:55:53 AM

frepnog: //dude, I've been around the block and let me tell you - you aren't missing anything if you are having good sex with someone you care about, and destroying a good relationship because you feel you might want to fark a black chick someday is just goddamned childish. want some real advice that would save more relationships? watch porn and jerk off more.


It's nice that you've extrapolated your experience, beliefs, and personal anecdote to everyone else, but different people are different.  Porn is not a catch-all solution to remaining monogamous any more than abstinence is the right solution to teenage pregnancy.  It works for many people, but it's not a useful solution for the bulk of the world's population, and blaming it on being "childish" is not productive either.

Personally, I challenge the modern cultural perception of why we feel the need to be in monogamous marriages at all.  Sure, it was a useful social construct, but the stats tell us it doesn't work as well in the modern world, particularly as religious institutions and methodology are greatly weakening.  Honesty and communication (along with clearly setting expectations) can allow a lot of people to lead very healthy open relationships.

Now, just as I said above - this works for some but not for all.  But don't be afraid of it.
 
2014-03-13 11:07:02 AM

Khellendros: Personally, I challenge the modern cultural perception of why we feel the need to be in monogamous marriages at all.


marriage has jack-all to do with social constructs or maintaining appearances.  we get married because jealousy.  fact is that MOST people simply CAN NOT have open relationships; their emotions and jealousy will get in the way almost every time.  it's like having a threesome with your wife and her best friend - it SEEMS like a great idea but invariably jealousy will get in the way.  add in people's ingrained tendency to fall in love with one person at a time and you basically have it in a nutshell - most people are simply designed to be monogamous.

and the advice I gave stands.  if the person in question truly values the relationship he is in and is afraid of or knows that telling her that he wants to bang other people will end the relationship, then he either needs to be honest up front, or get used to monogamy and masturbation.

/or you could just be clear with her about what you need and have sex more often.  someone having regular sex is far less likely to decide "oh i need some strange".
 
2014-03-13 11:33:30 AM

frepnog: fact is that MOST people simply CAN NOT have open relationships; their emotions and jealousy will get in the way almost every time. it's like having a threesome with your wife and her best friend - it SEEMS like a great idea but invariably jealousy will get in the way. add in people's ingrained tendency to fall in love with one person at a time and you basically have it in a nutshell - most people are simply designed to be monogamous.



Note the contradictory notions, and the massive assumptions you make.  People WANT to have sex with others, but are designed monogamous.  People are INGRAINED to be with one person, but want to have sex with others.

Divorce - and the desire to have sex with many different people - shows definitely that we are not inherently monogamous.  We have societal constructs that ingrain us to be monogamous, and teach that our felt jealousy is a good and encouraged thing.  Monogamy is a taught value, not a biological requirement of the humans species.  Much like children always want their toy and don't like to share, we have these feelings and drives when we are young.  And much like a toddler screaming "mine", it can be shaped, tempered, and adjusted.  Instead, we choose not to adjust it - jealousy is considered normal, and heavily encouraged.

Divorce rates are 50%.  Marriage rates are dropping.  Open relationships are becoming a lot more common.  As a percentage, I see these relationships functioning a lot more successfully that most monogamous marriages I see.  Small sample, obviously, but in this case the exception disproves your rule.  Open relationships can work well for a lot of people.

All of that aside - I stand by my earlier assertion.  You have a system that works for you, and you assume it should have to work for everyone.  It doesn't.  At all.  I'm glad what you have works for you, and makes you happy.  Extending that system to others as an absolute is a serious flaw.
 
2014-03-13 11:51:37 AM
Do what I did--get all your farking around out of your system before you get married.  By the time I walked down the aisle just before I turned 32, I'd done pretty much everything that could be done, including threesomes, same-sex, etc.  I found the vast majority of it overrated, as these things tend to be.  My husband had done the same thing, so when we got married we were happy just to be with one person.  Is there a possibility that you'll never want to get married?  Sure, and there's nothing wrong with that.
 
2014-03-13 11:55:22 AM
20/20 is still on?


Huh.
 
2014-03-13 12:28:29 PM
Haha. I have frepnog ignored. Posts like these are the reason.
 
2014-03-13 12:29:08 PM
Was the rehab place in the same zip code as he was?
 
2014-03-13 12:33:48 PM
i192.photobucket.com

Dude's a moron.
 
2014-03-13 12:47:40 PM

Buttknuckle: Am I the only one who thinks Elizabeth Vargas is incredibly beautiful?


Yes, in a barfly kind of way.
 
2014-03-13 12:57:06 PM
nyppagesix.files.wordpress.com

images.wikia.com
 
2014-03-13 01:11:51 PM

John the Magnificent: 20/20 is still on?


Huh.


10pm E/9pm C on Fridays. I didn't realize it was still on until my son was born 3 years ago. I found that out plus discovering that Saturday night prime time for the networks is sometimes repeats of shows from earlier in the week. It's useful if a DVR problem occurs or if breaking news/severe weather happens and locally interrupts your show.
 
2014-03-13 01:15:05 PM

LZeitgeist: Moonraper: I just can't bear the idea of sleeping with ONE person for the rest of my life, no matter how great she may be..

Then marriage of any kind is your worst enemy.

Just date and have relationships, long-term or not, it's up to you. But to sign a legally-binding contract with someone else and to at the same time hold the attitude you have about monogamy (and there is absolutely nothing wrong with feeling the way you do) will be potentially the biggest mistake you will ever make in your life.

\not being snarky
\\honest advice
\\\not judging


It's basically Tiger Woods vs. Derek Jeter. They have similar appetites, but Jeter has handled his the right way, and Woods did it wrong.
 
2014-03-13 01:23:45 PM
SERIOUS POST: I've been sleeping with this girl for a little over six months, and she's thinking of telling her one-year-strong current guy she's been sneaking around. Help?
 
2014-03-13 01:24:46 PM

Khellendros: Divorce - and the desire to have sex with many different people - shows definitely that we are not inherently monogamous.


no it does not in any way.  what most divorce shows us is that too many people are jumping into marriage with no thought to what marriage actually entails and end up marrying people that they are not compatible with.  i myself was the victim of this, and have had relationships that were doomed from the get-go because i was in no way compatible with the person i was in a relationship with.

there is nothing whatever wrong with having sex with whoever you please, as long as everyone involved knows what is up.  but the FACT is that human beings generally really don't handle open relationships well and the FACT is that open relationships are NOT really all that common.  are there lots of them?  sure, but it is possibly only between 4 and 9 percent of the population, and actually based on doctor and therapist review, possibly as little as 1 percent.

the real truth about most open relationships is that there is usually one partner that wants the open relationship and the other goes along with it, which is why you'll read "we are in an open relationship; i don't really step out but she does".

bottom line is that if you can make it work, great, but most people just can't.

as an aside...  open relationships are a spit in the eye for people fighting for marriage equality.
 
2014-03-13 01:26:30 PM

Fark Irony Police: SERIOUS POST: I've been sleeping with this girl for a little over six months, and she's thinking of telling her one-year-strong current guy she's been sneaking around. Help?


go to the guy, be up front about who you are and what you have been doing with his girl, and take your medicine like a man.
 
2014-03-13 01:26:57 PM

Fark Irony Police: SERIOUS POST: I've been sleeping with this girl for a little over six months, and she's thinking of telling her one-year-strong current guy she's been sneaking around. Help?


Tell him first, then he'll never believe it's you.
 
2014-03-13 01:28:05 PM

kroonermanblack: Haha. I have frepnog ignored. Posts like these are the reason.


who cares?  if you ignored me, please continue to do so.  what is the point of making a post SIMPLY to let people know how cool you are?  pussy.
 
2014-03-13 01:31:00 PM

kroonermanblack: Haha. I have frepnog ignored. Posts like these are the reason.


I have kroonermanblack on ignore. I don't even know how I'm posting this.
 
2014-03-13 01:32:49 PM

macadamnut: Fark Irony Police: SERIOUS POST: I've been sleeping with this girl for a little over six months, and she's thinking of telling her one-year-strong current guy she's been sneaking around. Help?

Tell him first, then he'll never believe it's you.


oh, I like that.
 
2014-03-13 01:33:33 PM

macadamnut: I have kroonermanblack on ignore. I don't even know how I'm posting this.


ok i like you.  that's great.
 
2014-03-13 01:56:23 PM

macadamnut: kroonermanblack: Haha. I have frepnog ignored. Posts like these are the reason.

I have kroonermanblack on ignore. I don't even know how I'm posting this.


I have myself on ignore. I really have no idea how I'm doing this.
 
2014-03-13 01:58:05 PM
1) It is none of our business
2) There is no 2
 
2014-03-13 02:07:38 PM

frepnog: Khellendros: Divorce - and the desire to have sex with many different people - shows definitely that we are not inherently monogamous.

no it does not in any way.  what most divorce shows us is that too many people are jumping into marriage with no thought to what marriage actually entails and end up marrying people that they are not compatible with.  i myself was the victim of this, and have had relationships that were doomed from the get-go because i was in no way compatible with the person i was in a relationship with.

there is nothing whatever wrong with having sex with whoever you please, as long as everyone involved knows what is up.  but the FACT is that human beings generally really don't handle open relationships well and the FACT is that open relationships are NOT really all that common.  are there lots of them?  sure, but it is possibly only between 4 and 9 percent of the population, and actually based on doctor and therapist review, possibly as little as 1 percent.

the real truth about most open relationships is that there is usually one partner that wants the open relationship and the other goes along with it, which is why you'll read "we are in an open relationship; i don't really step out but she does".

bottom line is that if you can make it work, great, but most people just can't.

as an aside...  open relationships are a spit in the eye for people fighting for marriage equality.



You spew a lot of "facts" without any basis, and your post is filled with very ignorant assumptions about what other people think.  Nearly every word posted above is stereotype, cornered statistics, assertions of authority, and personal anecdotal bias.  Your other posts are bravado and forced machismo.

I really hope you're a troll, and don't actually have this mental construction.
 
2014-03-13 02:10:10 PM

frepnog: Fark Irony Police: SERIOUS POST: I've been sleeping with this girl for a little over six months, and she's thinking of telling her one-year-strong current guy she's been sneaking around. Help?

go to the guy, be up front about who you are and what you have been doing with his girl, and take your medicine like a man.


Did everyone miss this.
(see: Moonraper)
 
2014-03-13 02:19:03 PM

Khellendros: You spew a lot of "facts" without any basis, and your post is filled with very ignorant assumptions about what other people think. Nearly every word posted above is stereotype, cornered statistics, assertions of authority, and personal anecdotal bias. Your other posts are bravado and forced machismo.

I really hope you're a troll, and don't actually have this mental construction.


you my friend seem to be laboring under the assumption that open relationships are nothing but awesome, common place, easy to navigate, and that instances of open relationships are increasing.

you are wrong on all counts.
 
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