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(Examiner)   Most-hated "Jeopardy" player ever finally loses - and goes home with nearly $300,000   (examiner.com) divider line 113
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2014-03-13 06:37:32 AM  
Now I haven't watched Jeopardy on purpose in decades, but I read that people are mad at him because he didn't break any rules but just chose the $1000 categories first which no one ever thought to do in the past 50 years?

Answer: The dumbest game show contestants ever?
 
2014-03-13 06:40:43 AM  
I mean, how could you argue this guy did anything wrong? Oh no he didn't stick to the script. As he pointed out, he's playing for real money, he doesn't have time for your TV niceties.

I wonder how this will change the show now.
 
2014-03-13 06:52:12 AM  
I don't get the outrage. He played fast, bet big, and won. Good for him.

I DVR jeopardy (since it take about 12minutes to watch that way) and don't always get around to watching them but while he was on I made sure to watch, it was nice to see someone play the game a new way (particularly the few times he played for a tie).
 
2014-03-13 06:53:25 AM  
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2014-03-13 06:53:47 AM  

Confabulat: I mean, how could you argue this guy did anything wrong? Oh no he didn't stick to the script. As he pointed out, he's playing for real money, he doesn't have time for your TV niceties.

I wonder how this will change the show now.


Nothing will change.  The rules won't be changed, contestants will go about playing the usual way, and he'll be forgotten.

The ONLY thing that might possibly be different is that he is not invited back to Week of Champions or whatever it's called.
 
2014-03-13 07:00:21 AM  
This is a bad week for "Most Hated".

/she had the remote, I swear!
 
2014-03-13 07:05:18 AM  

Confabulat: Now I haven't watched Jeopardy on purpose in decades, but I read that people are mad at him because he didn't break any rules but just chose the $1000 categories first which no one ever thought to do in the past 50 years?

Answer: The dumbest game show contestants ever?


It's his totally punchable face.  I see 2 possible flaws in the new strategy.  Daily doubles tend to be in higher value rows, getting one of those early can hurt your chances to build your lead as you have less money to potentially double.  I don't know exactly what to call the "tricky" categories, but they'll have categories with special directions and it's not always clear what they're going for.  I wish I could think of an example off the top of my head.  The 200 dollar questions are easier, obviously, and that can give a contestant the opportunity to figure out what they're going for.
 
2014-03-13 07:18:45 AM  
No way Wolf Blitzer made that much money on jeopardy.
 
2014-03-13 07:25:52 AM  
He should have ended his run by just screaming "F You Science" and dropping his mike.
 
2014-03-13 07:26:04 AM  
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/had a great run
 
2014-03-13 07:34:56 AM  
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2014-03-13 07:39:53 AM  
He's not the first player I've seen hunt out doubles and go for big amounts first.  I didn't understand why people hated this guy over his "new" strategy.

But then I saw him. That face!  That smug farkin fat farkin face!   I HATE HIM GAH HATE HATE HATE!
 
2014-03-13 07:42:21 AM  

Baryogenesis: Confabulat: Now I haven't watched Jeopardy on purpose in decades, but I read that people are mad at him because he didn't break any rules but just chose the $1000 categories first which no one ever thought to do in the past 50 years?

Answer: The dumbest game show contestants ever?

It's his totally punchable face.  I see 2 possible flaws in the new strategy.  Daily doubles tend to be in higher value rows, getting one of those early can hurt your chances to build your lead as you have less money to potentially double.


That is part of his strategy. He either bets as much as he can on a category he knows or bets low if it is a subject he is unfamiliar with. That way eliminating the possibility of an opponent that might have knowledge in that category being able to bet big later in the game.
 
2014-03-13 07:43:25 AM  

Baryogenesis: It's his totally punchable face. I see 2 possible flaws in the new strategy. Daily doubles tend to be in higher value rows, getting one of those early can hurt your chances to build your lead as you have less money to potentially double. I don't know exactly what to call the "tricky" categories, but they'll have categories with special directions and it's not always clear what they're going for. I wish I could think of an example off the top of my head. The 200 dollar questions are easier, obviously, and that can give a contestant the opportunity to figure out what they're going for.


The whole point of Chu's strategy was to find the daily doubles ASAP, by minimizing the ease of the questions.  By choosing the high value questions first, the odds of nobody immediately knowing the answer increased.  Finding the daily doubles early minimizes his score, but also eliminates his opponents from getting them at all.

That being said, last night's winner was basically using his strategy against him, as well as Chu missing some high-value questions, not the least of which was a daily double that would have put him around the $10k or $12k mark half way through the Double Jeopardy round.  He was soundly beat.

/Have no hate for him
 
2014-03-13 07:44:35 AM  
By bouncing around the board, both Trebek and his staff had to work harder to jump with Chu's madness across the playing board.

how exactly would trebek or the crew have to work harder?  the guy picks a question, and trebek asks it.  it's not like the staff is coming up with those questions on the fly.  "oh no he picked $800 instead of $200!  quick, we have to come up with a harder question!"
 
2014-03-13 07:46:01 AM  
I haven't seen any outrage, other than websites telling me I should be outraged.
 
2014-03-13 07:52:49 AM  
It wasn't only how he played, it was his smug mug too.
 
2014-03-13 07:52:50 AM  
His strategy worked. It confused the other contestants who used the easiers questions to get their mind thinking about the category and coming up with additional possible answers.His jumping around negated their ability to get time to set up mentally.
 
2014-03-13 07:55:53 AM  
What is news no one really cares about?
 
2014-03-13 07:59:34 AM  
Smugness, and completely punchable face.  Also, he was given to occasional 'WTF?' nerd tantrums (The weird gerrymandering) argument he got into with Trebek was once example.

He was VERY difficult to root for in the sense that he came off as a complete dickwad:  Kinda like Nick Burns - MOVE!!!!!
 
2014-03-13 08:00:16 AM  
That big winner Ken Jennings did a write up on this guy and said that he's brilliant, and everyone should play that way.

Why wouldn't you hunt for the squares that allow you to double your money?
 
2014-03-13 08:11:58 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: That big winner Ken Jennings did a write up on this guy and said that he's brilliant, and everyone should play that way.

Why wouldn't you hunt for the squares that allow you to double your money?


I never watched Jeopordy, mainly because I am a dumbass who cannot answer more then half the questions asked, but still this guy did nothing wrong. For $300,000 he showed up with a game plan and it worked out. Since everyone's biatchin about how he plays, he's the one laughing to the bank.
 
2014-03-13 08:16:27 AM  
Sorry to see Chu go - he was an excellent player.  I don't get all the hate for him.

www.thestar.com

Trebek was glad to see him go.
 
2014-03-13 08:17:41 AM  
Naturally, Chu's method of playing the game didn't sit well with host Alex Trebek or the staff of the show either. By bouncing around the board, both Trebek and his staff had to work harder to jump with Chu's madness across the playing board. "Jeopardy!" viewers were critical of Chu as well, thinking he was being disrespectful of the game as it is almost always played.

Boo hoo! I bet he's crying all the way to the bank now because no one likes him.
 
2014-03-13 08:18:06 AM  
He is far from the first contestant to play this way.  People just took a dislike to him.  And he lost because another player was using the same strategy.

And just because it's fun:  people are saying that his loss was a conspiracy.  Check out the Jeopardy FB page for fun interwebby stupidity.
 
2014-03-13 08:18:41 AM  
LeoffDaGrate:

The ONLY thing that might possibly be different is that he is not invited back to Week of Champions or whatever it's called.

Why won't he be invited back for the Tournament of Champions? It is, as I recall, the most skilled players (highest earnings) of the past season back for a knock-down-drag-out fight of obscure trivia questions. Likability has little to do with it and Chu has certainly proved he's skilled enough to take on the other big winners.
 
2014-03-13 08:22:02 AM  

enderthexenocide: By bouncing around the board, both Trebek and his staff had to work harder to jump with Chu's madness across the playing board.

how exactly would trebek or the crew have to work harder?  the guy picks a question, and trebek asks it.  it's not like the staff is coming up with those questions on the fly.  "oh no he picked $800 instead of $200!  quick, we have to come up with a harder question!"


Came in here to ask exactly this.
 
2014-03-13 08:28:39 AM  

PanicMan: No way Wolf Blitzer made that much money on jeopardy.


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2014-03-13 08:31:08 AM  

Baryogenesis: Confabulat: Now I haven't watched Jeopardy on purpose in decades, but I read that people are mad at him because he didn't break any rules but just chose the $1000 categories first which no one ever thought to do in the past 50 years?

Answer: The dumbest game show contestants ever?

It's his totally punchable face.  I see 2 possible flaws in the new strategy.  Daily doubles tend to be in higher value rows, getting one of those early can hurt your chances to build your lead as you have less money to potentially double.  I don't know exactly what to call the "tricky" categories, but they'll have categories with special directions and it's not always clear what they're going for.  I wish I could think of an example off the top of my head.  The 200 dollar questions are easier, obviously, and that can give a contestant the opportunity to figure out what they're going for.


Let's not kid ourselves here; it's the fact that he's Asian and that the majority of people who are at home to watch Jeopardy every time it airs during the days tend to have a bit of a problem with too tanned or epicanthicly folded individuals on principle, let alone taking every anglo they face to the cleaners.
 
2014-03-13 08:37:29 AM  
I think people dislike him because he is young and smart.

Heron: Let's not kid ourselves here; it's the fact that he's Asian and that the majority of people who are at home to watch Jeopardy every time it airs during the days tend to have a bit of a problem with too tanned or epicanthicly folded individuals on principle, let alone taking every anglo they face to the cleaners.


What?
 
2014-03-13 08:42:45 AM  
Ken Jennings played the exact same way for seventy-something games.
 
2014-03-13 08:48:15 AM  

Heron: Baryogenesis: Confabulat: Now I haven't watched Jeopardy on purpose in decades, but I read that people are mad at him because he didn't break any rules but just chose the $1000 categories first which no one ever thought to do in the past 50 years?

Answer: The dumbest game show contestants ever?

It's his totally punchable face.  I see 2 possible flaws in the new strategy.  Daily doubles tend to be in higher value rows, getting one of those early can hurt your chances to build your lead as you have less money to potentially double.  I don't know exactly what to call the "tricky" categories, but they'll have categories with special directions and it's not always clear what they're going for.  I wish I could think of an example off the top of my head.  The 200 dollar questions are easier, obviously, and that can give a contestant the opportunity to figure out what they're going for.

Let's not kid ourselves here; it's the fact that he's Asian and that the majority of people who are at home to watch Jeopardy every time it airs during the days tend to have a bit of a problem with too tanned or epicanthicly folded individuals on principle, let alone taking every anglo they face to the cleaners.


1/10

Work harder son. Work harder.
 
2014-03-13 08:50:42 AM  
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2014-03-13 08:55:50 AM  
RIP, game theory guy.
 
2014-03-13 08:56:16 AM  
Lack of any onscreen charisma aside, he's a guy who cared enough about being on Jeopardy! that he borrowed some strategies to do as well as possible.  I can't muster any hate for that.
 
2014-03-13 08:57:56 AM  
Arthur Chu was awesome.  I liked how aggressive and fast he played.  His category jumping unnerved not only his opponents, but the audience.

The world is now a lamer place that I know there are people who think Jeopardy should be played "the right way".
 
2014-03-13 09:10:18 AM  
Meh.  It used to be fun until it became easy to just record each show and have all the questions and answers to study from.  I don't find memory tests all that entertaining.
 
2014-03-13 09:13:10 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: enderthexenocide: By bouncing around the board, both Trebek and his staff had to work harder to jump with Chu's madness across the playing board.

how exactly would trebek or the crew have to work harder?  the guy picks a question, and trebek asks it.  it's not like the staff is coming up with those questions on the fly.  "oh no he picked $800 instead of $200!  quick, we have to come up with a harder question!"

Came in here to ask exactly this.


I'm not exactly sure either, but I think it's harder for them because when he chooses the answer, the crew has to quickly pull it up for Trebek to read it. Or Trebek has a touch screen that he uses to pull up the answers and by jumping around, it's harder for him/them to anticipate the next one to pull up.
 
2014-03-13 09:14:28 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Arthur Chu was awesome.  I liked how aggressive and fast he played.  His category jumping unnerved not only his opponents, but the audience.

The world is now a lamer place that I know there are people who think Jeopardy should be played "the right way".


True, however the problem with other people copying the strategy is that there's a risk the high value questions won't get answered and your overall winnings take a hit as a result.  Remember, the point of these shows is "local everyman wins big", and if a contestant walks out with only a few thousand because the big money questions stump him it quickly loses it's appeal.
 
2014-03-13 09:22:38 AM  
There are ways to win The Price is Right using game theory, too. In fact, with certain strategies in certain games, it is a 100% guarantee to win
 
2014-03-13 09:23:40 AM  

Flappyhead: Rapmaster2000: Arthur Chu was awesome.  I liked how aggressive and fast he played.  His category jumping unnerved not only his opponents, but the audience.

The world is now a lamer place that I know there are people who think Jeopardy should be played "the right way".

True, however the problem with other people copying the strategy is that there's a risk the high value questions won't get answered and your overall winnings take a hit as a result.  Remember, the point of these shows is "local everyman wins big", and if a contestant walks out with only a few thousand because the big money questions stump him it quickly loses it's appeal.


People will try and fail to emulate Chu and we will go back to the way it was before.
 
2014-03-13 09:24:15 AM  

Confabulat: Now I haven't watched Jeopardy on purpose in decades, but I read that people are mad at him because he didn't break any rules but just chose the $1000 categories first which no one ever thought to do in the past 50 years?

Answer: The dumbest game show contestants ever?


Seems like the only place I hear "most hated" is here on Fark. Besides, I don't understand why this guy matter... Says he made $300,000 in 12 appearances. That Ken Jennigs guy averaged $42,872/episode, which would be $514,492 for 12 episodes. This guy's "technique" still doesn't work as well as knowing what the fark you're talking about, apparently.
 
2014-03-13 09:29:53 AM  

give me doughnuts: Ken Jennings played the exact same way for seventy-something games.


Jennings played a more conventional game (at least, according to him; I wasn't watching when he was on). He said he found it easier to get in a "groove" in a particular category and just be faster on the buzzer/more knowledgable. Jennings also said, essentially, "I don't know why more people don't play like Chu. It makes perfect sense."

Jennings was on the Slate podcast  Hang Up and Listen this week talking about Chu and his interview with him. I found it pretty informative.
 
2014-03-13 09:29:58 AM  

Baryogenesis: Confabulat: Now I haven't watched Jeopardy on purpose in decades, but I read that people are mad at him because he didn't break any rules but just chose the $1000 categories first which no one ever thought to do in the past 50 years?

Answer: The dumbest game show contestants ever?

It's his totally punchable face.  I see 2 possible flaws in the new strategy.  Daily doubles tend to be in higher value rows, getting one of those early can hurt your chances to build your lead as you have less money to potentially double.  I don't know exactly what to call the "tricky" categories, but they'll have categories with special directions and it's not always clear what they're going for.  I wish I could think of an example off the top of my head.  The 200 dollar questions are easier, obviously, and that can give a contestant the opportunity to figure out what they're going for.


But all the contestants are in the same boat, so it's not a handicap.  Additionally, just taking away the potential for another contestant to get a Daily Double and potentially double their total is a keen strategy.  Even if he gets it wrong, he has the initiative, and he generally does high value/true Daily Doubles. He's clearly a smart guy, won consistently more than the majority of contestants, and showed his strategy works.  I don't really see a flaw - not saying there isn't one though.
 
2014-03-13 09:43:32 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Arthur Chu was awesome.  I liked how aggressive and fast he played.  His category jumping unnerved not only his opponents, but the audience.

The world is now a lamer place that I know there are people who think Jeopardy should be played "the right way".


pretty much this.
 
2014-03-13 09:51:12 AM  

machoprogrammer: There are ways to win The Price is Right using game theory, too. In fact, with certain strategies in certain games, it is a 100% guarantee to win


Cliffhangers: 20-30-40.

If that doesn't win it, they producers are actively trying to fark someone over.

And in Ten Chances, the price always ends in zero, much to the chagrin of every dumbass who uses 8 chances up on the three digit item and finds a way to never put the 0 at the end.
 
2014-03-13 10:04:52 AM  

Spanky McStupid: Sorry to see Chu go - he was an excellent player.  I don't get all the hate for him.

[www.thestar.com image 545x365]

Trebek was glad to see him go.




So how much of that does he actually clear?

He has to pay California income tax on his winnings and if I read their tables right that is about $25,000.

For Ohio, not knowing exemptions and other income etc would be about $15,000

Same for his Federal taxes put them in the $100,000 range

So his take home out of $297,200 would be about it $157,200+/- Ouch!
 
2014-03-13 10:33:53 AM  
The "war of southern aggression" guy who made a headline here a while back used the same strategy. I don't remember his name but he had a pretty good run on the show.

90% of the players on Jeopardy have no idea what to do with Daily Doubles anyways. If you pick the second easiest question in the category and it ends up being a Daily Double, GO ALL IN. Instead it's always "oh, I'll just bet a thousand".
 
2014-03-13 10:40:44 AM  
Perhaps he can now afford the services of a decent barber.
 
2014-03-13 10:43:28 AM  
for kicks check out this clip of trebek on (his first?)  gameshow - the chu guy would be hated on this one too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B273jLeGJaE
 
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