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(AATTP.org)   Texans freak out over use of term "haboob" instead of "dust storm" in meteorological report, blaming Muslim boob in White House for change in terminology   (aattp.org ) divider line
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2014-03-13 12:39:50 AM  
I don't believe it.
 
2014-03-13 01:12:47 AM  
Is every dust storm a haboob?

Something turned the sky over Lubbock brown Tuesday night, but was it a dust storm, a haboob or just a massive wall of dirt?
Is there really any difference between the terms?
"Going back more technically in meteorological literature, haboob is the correct term," said Jody James.
James is the warning coordination meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Lubbock.
"A couple of things have to come together to get the kind of dust storm we call a haboob," James said. "You need really strong winds, which we get a lot out here, and we need an atmosphere that has some really cold air that hugs the ground and sort of stays together -
James says meteorologists have used the word haboob since at least the 1950s.
"It is a word of Arabic origin but we have a lot of words like that, like algebra. Cotton is actually an Arabic word so whether we know it or not we have a lot of Arabic words in our lexicon," James said.

Some other words of Arabic origin include lemon, candy, alcohol, sofa and spinach.

Dumbasses.
 
2014-03-13 01:14:22 AM  
Wow... Texans acting like... Texans

/there's something you see every day
 
2014-03-13 01:25:34 AM  
Islamophobia and politics aside (in the Politics tab? shyeah, right), unless haboob has a specific connotation not carried by the more pedestrian "dust storm," it seems silly to introduce a new term, especially one that doesn't save any syllables, most people don't know and wouldn't be able to figure out from context.

Something like "derecho" is close to the line -- it was a relatively unknown term at the time, but it has a specific meaning, and it's less cumbersome than having to say "persistent, straight-line thunderstorms" every time.

Wording in weather warnings matters; one of the reasons people in the Philippines were so unprepared for Typhoon Haiyan was that they kept hearing warnings about possible "storm surges," whereas if they were warned of "tsunami-like" effects, people might have taken the threat more seriously (since people were very familiar with tsunamis, less so with storm surge.)
 
2014-03-13 01:38:04 AM  
aattp.org
The hell it's not. It's got "Ha!" and "Boob" right there.
 
2014-03-13 02:01:39 AM  
On the behalf of sane, rational Texans, I apologize.  Facebook has unfortunately provided a conduit and rallying post for these people.

You may now move freely about the cabin.
 
2014-03-13 03:05:37 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

/Freedom Storms
 
2014-03-13 03:05:51 AM  
I suppose we could use longer, more cumbersome words every time we don't wish to use the nasty icky foreign words, but that's going to make life extremely difficult.

Anyone up for a game of moving small wooden carved figures around a board marked in black and white squares? (checkmate, a common term in chess, is derived from the Arabic al shah'khmat, "the king is dead/defeated" and we can't be having that)
 
2014-03-13 03:07:40 AM  

propasaurus: Is every dust storm a haboob?

Something turned the sky over Lubbock brown Tuesday night, but was it a dust storm, a haboob or just a massive wall of dirt?
Is there really any difference between the terms?
"Going back more technically in meteorological literature, haboob is the correct term," said Jody James.
James is the warning coordination meteorologist with the National Weather Service in Lubbock.
"A couple of things have to come together to get the kind of dust storm we call a haboob," James said. "You need really strong winds, which we get a lot out here, and we need an atmosphere that has some really cold air that hugs the ground and sort of stays together -
James says meteorologists have used the word haboob since at least the 1950s.
"It is a word of Arabic origin but we have a lot of words like that, like algebra. Cotton is actually an Arabic word so whether we know it or not we have a lot of Arabic words in our lexicon," James said.

Some other words of Arabic origin include lemon, candy, alcohol, sofa and spinach.

Dumbasses.


Lookit chu witch yer "facts"
 
2014-03-13 03:13:44 AM  
List of English words borrowed from Arabic

Admiral
Adobe
Alchemy/Chemistry
Alcohol
Alcove
Alembic
Alfalfa
Algebra
Algorithm
Alizarin (artists know this one)
Alkali
Apricot
Arsenal
Average
Azimuth
Azure (more artist stuff)

That's just the "A"s.

What were you saying, Texas?
 
2014-03-13 03:19:14 AM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-13 03:20:35 AM  

syrynxx: I don't believe it.


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2014-03-13 03:24:23 AM  

hardinparamedic: syrynxx: I don't believe it.

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i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-03-13 03:24:39 AM  
This is why rednecks suck at Algebra.
 
2014-03-13 03:27:51 AM  
From  http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/haboob:

ha·boob
noun
a thick dust storm or sandstorm that blows in the deserts of North Africa and Arabia or on the plains of India.


If it is not in North Africa, Arabia, or India, then it is a dust storm and not a haboob.
 
2014-03-13 03:30:41 AM  

Meliorist: If it is not in North Africa, Arabia, or India, then it is a dust storm and not a haboob


Yeah, if only the comments in that thread were that simple.... (Hint: RTFA, they weren't.)
 
2014-03-13 03:31:02 AM  

Meliorist: From  http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/haboob:

ha·boob
noun
a thick dust storm or sandstorm that blows in the deserts of North Africa and Arabia or on the plains of India.

If it is not in North Africa, Arabia, or India, then it is a dust storm and not a haboob.


You mean to say Florida doesn't get typhoons and Seattle doesn't have a monsoon season?
 
2014-03-13 03:33:40 AM  
shiatballs
 
2014-03-13 03:33:48 AM  
Imagine what we could accomplish as a country if people directed their energy and passion toward anything useful instead of complaining about what word the local news uses to describe a dust storm.  On the other hand, I'm glad that people are using their time and resources yelling about the local weather report instead of whatever other issues they are passionate about since I'd imagine it probably would end in violence.

Also, I'm guessing that if this wasn't a word of Arabic origin there would probably be a bunch of people yelling because the news used a word that has boob in it.
 
2014-03-13 03:40:39 AM  

HotWingAgenda: You mean to say Florida doesn't get typhoons and Seattle doesn't have a monsoon season?

ty·phoon
noun
1. a tropical cyclone or hurricane of the western Pacific area and the China seas.
2. a violent storm or tempest of India.
3. ( initial capital letter ) Military .
a. a single-engine British ground attack aircraft of World War II.
b. NATO's name for a class of nuclear-powered Soviet ballistic missile submarine carrying 20 multiwarhead missiles.

mon·soon
noun
1. the seasonal wind of the Indian Ocean and southern Asia, blowing from the southwest in summer and from the northeast in winter.
2. (in India and nearby lands) the season during which the southwest monsoon blows, commonly marked by heavy rains; rainy season.
3. any wind that changes directions with the seasons.
4. any persistent wind established between water and adjoining land.


Florida gets hurricanes, not typhoons. Monsoons are not limited to a specific part of the world in definitions 3 and 4, so they can be anywhere.
 
2014-03-13 03:43:24 AM  

Meliorist: From  http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/haboob:

ha·boob
noun
a thick dust storm or sandstorm that blows in the deserts of North Africa and Arabia or on the plains of India.

If it is not in North Africa, Arabia, or India, then it is a dust storm and not a haboob.


Actually, it is not locale specific. It is condition specific though. That is to say, a haboob is a specific type of dust storm.
 
2014-03-13 03:44:13 AM  

StopLurkListen: List of English words borrowed from Arabic


This is one of the many things I like about Fark...someone posts a link, people post comments and I end up learning something.

Oddly enough, the fact that algebra is derived from Arabic is probably the only thing I learned when I took it because I sure as hell didn't learn anything about algebra.
 
2014-03-13 03:44:26 AM  

Mike_1962: Actually, it is not locale specific. It is condition specific though. That is to say, a haboob is a specific type of dust storm.


So you are saying that the dictionary is wrong?
 
2014-03-13 03:47:34 AM  
www.outsidethebeltway.com

going meta here
 
2014-03-13 03:49:52 AM  

orangehat: Imagine what we could accomplish as a country if people directed their energy and passion toward anything useful instead of complaining about what word the local news uses to describe a dust storm.  On the other hand, I'm glad that people are using their time and resources yelling about the local weather report instead of whatever other issues they are passionate about since I'd imagine it probably would end in violence.

Also, I'm guessing that if this wasn't a word of Arabic origin there would probably be a bunch of people yelling because the news used a word that has boob in it.


Hell, there are people who are outraged and offended because a Miracle Whip ad uses the word 'friggin.'
 
2014-03-13 03:51:32 AM  
Didn't this also happen LAST year? Are we going to have a haboob thread every year now?
 
2014-03-13 03:55:05 AM  
I hope they never find out about that illegal immigrant El Niño.
 
2014-03-13 03:56:39 AM  

Meliorist: Mike_1962: Actually, it is not locale specific. It is condition specific though. That is to say, a haboob is a specific type of dust storm.

So you are saying that the dictionary is wrong?


I'll just leave these here.
 
2014-03-13 03:57:55 AM  
I ♥ Haboobies?
 
2014-03-13 04:00:53 AM  
imageshack.com
 
2014-03-13 04:01:07 AM  

propasaurus: Hell, there are people who are outraged and offended because a Miracle Whip ad uses the word 'friggin.'


no way
 
2014-03-13 04:01:40 AM  

grumpfuff: Meliorist: Mike_1962: Actually, it is not locale specific. It is condition specific though. That is to say, a haboob is a specific type of dust storm.

So you are saying that the dictionary is wrong?

I'll just leave these here.


What does NOAA know, they're in the tank for Big Weather.
 
2014-03-13 04:02:31 AM  
Isn't this a repeat from last summer or so?
 
2014-03-13 04:08:29 AM  

log_jammin: propasaurus: Hell, there are people who are outraged and offended because a Miracle Whip ad uses the word 'friggin.'

no way


Oh yes, way.

Really offended by your commercial that aired at 8am during the news... Using ' frigging'? Have some class, kraft. No longer buying...

"friggin'" artichoke dip.... really? Testing the waters? The REAL "F word" next? I suppose it's just a matter of tastes, but I, for one, will not taste another Kraft product. At least until your ads become a little more "tastefull"!

Really disappointed in your newest commercial! The use of the word friggin is offensive especially during non adult programming at 9:21am during GMA. Your mayonnaise sales and other Kraft products just decline by one household that eats a lot of Mac and cheese and sandwiches!
 
2014-03-13 04:09:46 AM  
*facepalm*
 
2014-03-13 04:11:00 AM  

mutterfark: I ♥ Haboobies?


A haboobie is when you post the ha ha guy before any other posts.
 
2014-03-13 04:12:49 AM  
This just in, secret kenyan mooslim Obummer infiltrating good ol' American homes with ARABIC NUMERALS!

If you have a clock in your home, he's gotten to you!


AMERICAN NUMERALS FOR AMERICAN HOMES!
 
2014-03-13 04:14:40 AM  

Alphax: Isn't this a repeat from last summer or so?


I suspect this will become an annual story, like the annual "War on Xmas" stories or the "don't blow your hand off with fireworks" stories.
 
2014-03-13 04:14:58 AM  

IsThatYourFinalAnswer: This just in, secret kenyan mooslim Obummer infiltrating good ol' American homes with ARABIC NUMERALS!

If you have a clock in your home, he's gotten to you!


AMERICAN NUMERALS FOR AMERICAN HOMES!


In my house it's always Reagan o'clock!
 
2014-03-13 04:15:10 AM  
We should rename the 'Dust Bowl' of the 1930's to the Haboob bowl.

But to be fair, weather readers are idiots.  They like comparing things like a seasonal shift in high pressure in the Southwest to 'monsoons' in Africa and Asia.  They couldn't define it as a wind shift so they went with dew point (3 consecutive days above 55F was start of 'monsoon') but that proved inconclusive so now they say 'monsoons' start on June 15th.  They'll throw science under the bus if they can utter a cool sounding word regardless of whether it's accurate.  'haboob' is no more accurate than dust storm the way weather readers say it.  Now if they limited it to virga and sinking air that's cooled and accelerated by the evaporation of rain from a thunderstorm that never hits the ground, it might make sense to distinguish that as a haboob.  But a dusty, windy day from a cold air front is not the same as a thunderstorm driven haboob.
Kinda like the difference between a dust devil and an F-5 tornado.  But weather readers get off on saying haboob like snickering school boys so any windy day is haboob day.  Haboob.
 
2014-03-13 04:46:27 AM  
"weather readers"???
 
2014-03-13 04:48:05 AM  
I seem to recall residents in Arizona taking issue with their local weatherman using this term a few years back. Texas has gotten so bad that it's using hand-me-down derp.
 
2014-03-13 04:53:25 AM  
Yes we use words from, and drived from other languages. We have forever, here's some more we use.

0
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9

Lot's easier then today's date in the old system

III.XIII.MMXIV

We are just sensitive about it right now. Give it a few years and we'll be biatchin' about something else.

It's the American way.

/not trying to bait the trolls
 
2014-03-13 04:59:07 AM  

Meliorist: Mike_1962: Actually, it is not locale specific. It is condition specific though. That is to say, a haboob is a specific type of dust storm.

So you are saying that the dictionary is wrong?


Nope, just depends on which dictionary you use. The term originated in Sudan and has been used to describe the phenomenum in a variety of geographical settings. Originally it was a seasonal term, but in contemporary times it has evolved to mean dust storms caused by large scale downburst events. In North America these typically occur as a result of a major thunderstorm system suddenly collapsing.
 
2014-03-13 05:02:13 AM  

Meliorist: Mike_1962: Actually, it is not locale specific. It is condition specific though. That is to say, a haboob is a specific type of dust storm.

So you are saying that the dictionary is wrong?


Incidently, I'll take Encyclopedia Brittanica over Dictionary.com any day...
 
2014-03-13 05:08:56 AM  
No wonder it took me so long to find it, I always thought it was Stan Freberg.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjFaKD9BuOc
 
2014-03-13 05:16:08 AM  
Just like how Polar Vortex was a word created by Climate Change people and fartbongo.
 
2014-03-13 05:36:29 AM  
So it wasn't just local construction adding dirt to the wind Tuesday night in Dallas. I thought my paint was going to be stripped.
 
2014-03-13 05:37:44 AM  

StopLurkListen: List of English words borrowed from Arabic

Admiral
Adobe
Alchemy/Chemistry
Alcohol
Alcove
Alembic
Alfalfa
Algebra
Algorithm
Alizarin (artists know this one)
Alkali
Apricot
Arsenal
Average
Azimuth
Azure (more artist stuff)

That's just the "A"s.

What were you saying, Texas?


And Alamo.

/get over it
 
2014-03-13 06:08:42 AM  
I guess Texas should also ban alcohol, given the origin of that term.
 
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