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(STLToday)   Missouri GOP has an idea that is sure to beat the Kansas GOP: Amend the state constitution to shield puppy mills under a "right to farm" amendment   (stltoday.com) divider line 52
    More: Asinine, GOP, puppy mills, Missouri, state constitution, constitutional amendments, Jay Nixon, JEFFERSON CITY, legislators  
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2014-03-12 11:32:02 PM  
Disgusting
 
2014-03-12 11:56:24 PM  
ok, that's it.  I'm done.  I've defended the Republicans in all the war on women threads.  But a war on puppies?  Seriously, farking puppies?  What the hell is wrong with these people?

Can we just turn this into a dog photo thread?  Here's Dewie.  He's a rescue dog.
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2014-03-13 12:00:11 AM  
Beyond the issue with puppy mills, any ban of ballot initiatives is problematic.  Everyone wants to protect the small family farms, but the real winners with something like this will be the mega farms in bed with Monsanto, and the people need the ability to keep those businesses in check.
 
2014-03-13 12:01:02 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Beyond the issue with puppy mills, any ban of ballot initiatives is problematic.  Everyone wants to protect the small family farms, but the real winners with something like this will be the mega farms in bed with Monsanto, and the people need the ability to keep those businesses in check.


They're also pushing similar amendment proposals that guarantee a "right to hunt" and a "right to parent"
 
2014-03-13 12:24:59 AM  
WHAT THE F*CK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? HAVE YOU GONE ABSOLUTELY BUGF*CKING MAD??
 
2014-03-13 12:32:47 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: Beyond the issue with puppy mills, any ban of ballot initiatives is problematic.  Everyone wants to protect the small family farms, but the real winners with something like this will be the mega farms in bed with Monsanto, and the people need the ability to keep those businesses in check.


Monsanto knows who to own.
 
2014-03-13 01:00:07 AM  
The last time Missouri beat Kansas, Lincoln freed the slaves.
 
2014-03-13 01:01:10 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: WHAT THE F*CK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? HAVE YOU GONE ABSOLUTELY BUGF*CKING MAD??


Even MY state is cracking down on this.
 
2014-03-13 01:26:20 AM  
Missouri has had an issue with puppy mills forever.  I don't even know what the opposition is anymore.
 
2014-03-13 01:41:22 AM  
WTF? It's like they're trying to become actual cartoon villains.

The small rescue I volunteer for got hit with 40 dogs seized from an idiot backyard "breeder" last year. 40 shy, unfixed dogs, some of which had never been outside of a cage, all with medical issues. Rot in hell, Missouri GOP.
 
2014-03-13 01:41:29 AM  
Since it's called farming will people who buy dogs from these mills be required to eat them?
 
2014-03-13 02:11:15 AM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: TuteTibiImperes: Beyond the issue with puppy mills, any ban of ballot initiatives is problematic.  Everyone wants to protect the small family farms, but the real winners with something like this will be the mega farms in bed with Monsanto, and the people need the ability to keep those businesses in check.

They're also pushing similar amendment proposals that guarantee a "right to hunt" and a "right to parent"

*

*some restrictions apply
 
2014-03-13 02:50:51 AM  
i57.tinypic.com
 
2014-03-13 04:23:07 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: WHAT THE F*CK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? HAVE YOU GONE ABSOLUTELY BUGF*CKING MAD??


Lots of rural space with AM radio to listen to, with their home state hero Rush Limbaugh.
 
2014-03-13 04:41:30 AM  

serial_crusher: ok, that's it.  I'm done.  I've defended the Republicans in all the war on women threads.  But a war on puppies?  Seriously, farking puppies?  What the hell is wrong with these people?

Can we just turn this into a dog photo thread?  Here's Dewie.  He's a rescue dog.
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Defended the 'tards on women threads; you are a serious knuckled dragging, room temperature IQ idiot.  Please don't breed.
 
2014-03-13 04:48:40 AM  
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2014-03-13 04:54:52 AM  
Puppy mills make real strange bedfellows.  I forget where but the NRA got all worked up over anti puppy mill legislature in one state because dogs>hunting>guns.  Or something.  Hell if I'm following that twisted logic for long.

That whole article is just so depressing.  It reads like a laundry list of what's wrong with our politics.  A slim majority of voters passed a good-intentioned bill.  Which was immediately repealed by legislators because they'd rather have puppy mills than lose even 1 job.  Instead they passed a watered down shell of what voters wanted but even that had breeders squealing that it was going to cost jobs.  So now they're taking a second whack at watering it down with extreme prejudice by (among other things) outlawing ballot initiatives in the state constitution - preventing voters from coming up with any more 'ideas' that would be immediately squelched.

Holy moly.  I need a shower after just reading that.
 
2014-03-13 04:57:31 AM  
Their chief goal: to ban ballot initiatives such as Proposition B, the Missouri dog-breeding law that passed in 2010 after being bankrolled by the Humane Society of the United States and other animal welfare groups.

...

Under the House proposal, only the Legislature could write laws regulating "livestock production and ranching practices."


The party of small government.
 
2014-03-13 05:21:00 AM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: TuteTibiImperes: Beyond the issue with puppy mills, any ban of ballot initiatives is problematic.  Everyone wants to protect the small family farms, but the real winners with something like this will be the mega farms in bed with Monsanto, and the people need the ability to keep those businesses in check.

They're also pushing similar amendment proposals that guarantee a "right to hunt" and a "right to parent"


They could just go ahead and call their proposals "the right to hurt animals and children" and I doubt they'd lose much GOP support.

/"and women, and employees, and..."
 
2014-03-13 05:29:50 AM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: They could just go ahead and call their proposals "the right to hurt animals and children" and I doubt they'd lose much GOP support.

/"and women, and employees, and..."


Not 1984ish enough, I guess.
 
2014-03-13 05:42:06 AM  
This is the same state that elected the son of puppy mill owners to the U.S. House of Representatives. http://jasonsmith.house.gov/
Not just any puppy mill, one of cruelest in the state.   http://www.humanesociety.org/assets/pdfs/pets/puppy_mills/missouris_d i rty_dozen_update.pdf
 
2014-03-13 05:56:53 AM  
Even my third world country is fighting puppy mills.

/ i am shocked and appalled

//not really
 
2014-03-13 06:04:34 AM  

serial_crusher: ok, that's it.  I'm done.  I've defended the Republicans in all the war on women threads.  But a war on puppies?  Seriously, farking puppies?  What the hell is wrong with these people?

Can we just turn this into a dog photo thread?  Here's Dewie.  He's a rescue dog.
[scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 537x720]


seconded.
  www.hammillpost.com
 
2014-03-13 06:23:29 AM  
Seriously America, what the FARK is it going to take for you to realize that the GOP is a horrible horrible choice!?
 
2014-03-13 06:37:09 AM  

NeverDrunk23: Seriously America, what the FARK is it going to take for you to realize that the GOP is a horrible horrible choice!?


About 30 years.
 
2014-03-13 06:55:48 AM  

NeverDrunk23: Seriously America, what the FARK is it going to take for you to realize that the GOP is a horrible horrible choice!?


Probably when they launch the nukes on Massachusetts in order to "liberate" it.
 
2014-03-13 06:55:51 AM  

Mentat: Missouri has had an issue with puppy mills forever.  I don't even know what the opposition is anymore.


They think that by even trying to regulate or crack down on puppy mills, all of the legitimate dog breeders will have to close up and leave.

Hell, in 2012, voters passed a proposition that would have placed regulations on puppy mills.  Days before it would go into effect, the state legislature invalidated the whole thing, as if the vote had never happened.
 
2014-03-13 07:09:19 AM  
You watch yourself, Mizzou: Browback and Co. right this very moment are in a meeting, coming up with some strategies to steal all those sweet, sweet professional animal cruelty jobs from you.

Dogs can be raised on alfalfa, right? I mean, I know they might not take to it at first, but if they get hungry enough?
 
2014-03-13 07:26:30 AM  
It's healthier if they are frozen, because when they are in the can they use way too much sodium.
 
2014-03-13 07:32:39 AM  

Alphax: MaudlinMutantMollusk: WHAT THE F*CK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? HAVE YOU GONE ABSOLUTELY BUGF*CKING MAD??

Lots of rural space with AM radio to listen to, with their home state hero Rush Limbaugh.


Rural space radio scares the poop out of me. Between sports, GOP-tardery, and the Jeezus, as soon I'm flanked by farmland, I'm plugging in the MP3 player.

/Nebraska
//that's a lotta rural space...
 
2014-03-13 07:55:37 AM  
Burn the state to the ground and salt the earth
 
2014-03-13 08:15:56 AM  
Are they intentionally trying to be caricatures of fictional super villains or so caught up in profit and "sticking it to the libs" that their whole sense of right and wrong has been permanently warped? How can a person come to the "realization" that pollution is good, letting people go hungry/homeless/sick is good, paying poverty wages for a fair day's work is ethical, etc., based purely on greed but presented as righteousness? It is really messed up.
 
2014-03-13 08:32:33 AM  
so puppy mills are literally more important democracy to these people.
 
2014-03-13 08:32:49 AM  

log_jammin: Their chief goal: to ban ballot initiatives such as Proposition B, the Missouri dog-breeding law that passed in 2010 after being bankrolled by the Humane Society of the United States and other animal welfare groups.

...

Under the House proposal, only the Legislature could write laws regulating "livestock production and ranching practices."

The party of small government.


Yes. Small, as in, limited only to a small group of your betters, whom you must mind.
 
2014-03-13 08:33:53 AM  

serial_crusher: ok, that's it.  I'm done.  I've defended the Republicans in all the war on women threads.  But a war on puppies?  Seriously, farking puppies?  What the hell is wrong with these people?

Can we just turn this into a dog photo thread?  Here's Dewie.  He's a rescue dog.


Works for me. I don't have a dog so...
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2014-03-13 08:34:18 AM  

verbaltoxin: log_jammin: Their chief goal: to ban ballot initiatives such as Proposition B, the Missouri dog-breeding law that passed in 2010 after being bankrolled by the Humane Society of the United States and other animal welfare groups.

...

Under the House proposal, only the Legislature could write laws regulating "livestock production and ranching practices."

The party of small government.

Yes. Small, as in, limited only to a small group of your betters, whom you must mind.


Also small enough to fit in your bedroom, and inside of a woman's ovaries (because jeebus and freedumz)
 
2014-03-13 08:35:25 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: WHAT THE F*CK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? HAVE YOU GONE ABSOLUTELY BUGF*CKING MAD??


If there is a way for someone to make money that a law prevents(and that Xians don't give a damn about), then the R's will support it. Expect a bill legalizing child abuse soon.
 
2014-03-13 08:36:06 AM  
Missouri is called "Misery" by its residents for a reason.

/Still remembers when it was a political bellwether state, not Derp Hollow.
 
2014-03-13 08:37:26 AM  
Time to put a burning bag of dog poop on every Republican's doorstep.
 
2014-03-13 08:48:42 AM  
You guys have to understand -- Missouri doesn't have much in the way of  real farms. Puppy mills and meth labs are (no joke) among the main things the state produces because the land isn't good for much else.

So it's a smokescreen to even talk about "right to farm" in Missouri since there are so few actual farmers. The puppy millers don't have that powerful of a lobby and are pretty widely reviled by the citizens (hence Prop B), but the ranchers and other agri-business lobbies who do have some money are terrified of puppy mill legislation being used as a backdoor to force them to actually be humane to their livestock. They're the ones driving this sort of thing.

So, the way they fight back is by trying to take away citizens' rights to propose ballot initiatives, a measure that will surely attract a lot of national lobbies' attention and money.
 
2014-03-13 09:40:26 AM  

secularsage: You guys have to understand -- Missouri doesn't have much in the way of  real farms. Puppy mills and meth labs are (no joke) among the main things the state produces because the land isn't good for much else.

So it's a smokescreen to even talk about "right to farm" in Missouri since there are so few actual farmers. The puppy millers don't have that powerful of a lobby and are pretty widely reviled by the citizens (hence Prop B), but the ranchers and other agri-business lobbies who do have some money are terrified of puppy mill legislation being used as a backdoor to force them to actually be humane to their livestock. They're the ones driving this sort of thing.

So, the way they fight back is by trying to take away citizens' rights to propose ballot initiatives, a measure that will surely attract a lot of national lobbies' attention and money.


No farms? The herd of herdfords out my window will be surpised.
 
2014-03-13 10:11:07 AM  
Alright, whoever told the GOP that puppies vote democrat, CUT IT OUT!  It's not funny anymore.
 
2014-03-13 10:24:09 AM  

secularsage: You guys have to understand -- Missouri doesn't have much in the way of  real farms. Puppy mills and meth labs are (no joke) among the main things the state produces because the land isn't good for much else.

So it's a smokescreen to even talk about "right to farm" in Missouri since there are so few actual farmers. The puppy millers don't have that powerful of a lobby and are pretty widely reviled by the citizens (hence Prop B), but the ranchers and other agri-business lobbies who do have some money are terrified of puppy mill legislation being used as a backdoor to force them to actually be humane to their livestock. They're the ones driving this sort of thing.

So, the way they fight back is by trying to take away citizens' rights to propose ballot initiatives, a measure that will surely attract a lot of national lobbies' attention and money.


This is just not true. Missouri is second only to Texas in the number of farms for any state and a top 10 producer of pork, beef, soybeans, corn, cotton and the list goes on and on.
 
2014-03-13 10:53:40 AM  

heavymetal: Are they intentionally trying to be caricatures of fictional super villains or so caught up in profit and "sticking it to the libs" that their whole sense of right and wrong has been permanently warped? How can a person come to the "realization" that pollution is good, letting people go hungry/homeless/sick is good, paying poverty wages for a fair day's work is ethical, etc., based purely on greed but presented as righteousness? It is really messed up.


We are dealing with Captain Planet villains.
 
2014-03-13 11:18:59 AM  

rtaylor92: secularsage: You guys have to understand -- Missouri doesn't have much in the way of  real farms. Puppy mills and meth labs are (no joke) among the main things the state produces because the land isn't good for much else.

So it's a smokescreen to even talk about "right to farm" in Missouri since there are so few actual farmers. The puppy millers don't have that powerful of a lobby and are pretty widely reviled by the citizens (hence Prop B), but the ranchers and other agri-business lobbies who do have some money are terrified of puppy mill legislation being used as a backdoor to force them to actually be humane to their livestock. They're the ones driving this sort of thing.

So, the way they fight back is by trying to take away citizens' rights to propose ballot initiatives, a measure that will surely attract a lot of national lobbies' attention and money.

This is just not true. Missouri is second only to Texas in the number of farms for any state and a top 10 producer of pork, beef, soybeans, corn, cotton and the list goes on and on.


True.  But, we also have one of the highest populations of puppy mills in the US, yet the state agri-lobby is using farmers as a cover for snuffing out any attempt to crack down on the puppy mills.
 
2014-03-13 11:35:24 AM  

NeverDrunk23: heavymetal: Are they intentionally trying to be caricatures of fictional super villains or so caught up in profit and "sticking it to the libs" that their whole sense of right and wrong has been permanently warped? How can a person come to the "realization" that pollution is good, letting people go hungry/homeless/sick is good, paying poverty wages for a fair day's work is ethical, etc., based purely on greed but presented as righteousness? It is really messed up.

We are dealing with Captain Planet villains.


You are so right.  Only problem is now I don't know whether to laugh or cry for humanity about it.
 
2014-03-13 11:56:31 AM  
The gop. It's like their vampires, feeding off of misery and death.
 
2014-03-13 11:59:31 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: WHAT THE F*CK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? HAVE YOU GONE ABSOLUTELY BUGF*CKING MAD??


When you indoctrinate yourself into believing that Jesus rode a dinosaur, gays are conspiring with Islamic terrorists, and bombing brown people wins over their hearts & minds, the answer is "yes".
 
2014-03-13 02:58:28 PM  
So the GOP is trying to appease the meth head vote?
 
2014-03-14 01:07:19 AM  

serial_crusher: ok, that's it.  I'm done.  I've defended the Republicans in all the war on women threads.  But a war on puppies?  Seriously, farking puppies?  What the hell is wrong with these people?

Can we just turn this into a dog photo thread?  Here's Dewie.  He's a rescue dog.
[scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net image 537x720]


I've seen you around for quite some time, and I may have even jousted with you once or twice, but I must say: "Welcome!". We've got an awfully big tent which definitely includes some nutty people, but at least we *try* to not be evil.
 
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