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(ABC)   Idaho hockey fans sue arena after someone discovers $7 cups hold the same amount of beer as $4 ones   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 28
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2014-03-13 01:29:58 AM  
9 votes:

Plush_Cthulhu: Heh, CenturyLink Field here in Seattle (Seahawks) had the same issue a few years ago.

http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2013877469_hawkbeer08.html


So they can show a pattern of deliberate misrepresentation even.  Lovely.  That'll make the lawsuit go a lot smoother.

Related: I'd like to see a law that requires vendors to use the actual capacity in ounces as the name of the size you purchase.  No "large" and "small", they can only call it "16oz" and "20oz".  Not just for sports arenas either; amusement parks, carnivals, concert venues, outdoor markets... plenty of areas that pull the same crap.
2014-03-12 10:32:37 PM  
5 votes:
They say that they were shooting for 16oz and 20oz and will now go for 24oz "large".   Math says that they have to go to 28oz for a large to be equal in value.

/thieves still
2014-03-13 02:01:27 AM  
3 votes:

proteus_b: yukichigai: Related: I'd like to see a law that requires vendors to use the actual capacity in ounces as the name of the size you purchase.

Why should there be such a law? Should there be a law requiring them to offer small and large? Maybe medium as well? Should there be a law requiring them to make a drink of any size you request, at any price? Perhaps a law insuring that they have your favorite beer on tap? I'd like to see a law that requires people like you to be sterilized as soon as your lunacy is detected.


Yes, because all of those things are TOTALLY the same as requiring vendors to tell you the actual measurable size of the beverage you are about to purchase so you can figure out if they're trying to cheat you.
2014-03-13 01:47:41 AM  
3 votes:

Torion!: Off to look for a quick ratio app.


isn't that called a "calculator"?
2014-03-13 01:28:30 AM  
3 votes:
This's why I just bring a couple of flasks with me to sporting events.
2014-03-12 09:44:15 PM  
3 votes:
Now that is just seriously chickensh*t

/assholes deserve to be sued
//FREE BEER AT ALL GAMES NEXT SEASON!
2014-03-13 02:11:59 AM  
2 votes:

proteus_b: yukichigai: Related: I'd like to see a law that requires vendors to use the actual capacity in ounces as the name of the size you purchase.

Why should there be such a law? Should there be a law requiring them to offer small and large? Maybe medium as well? Should there be a law requiring them to make a drink of any size you request, at any price? Perhaps a law insuring that they have your favorite beer on tap? I'd like to see a law that requires people like you to be sterilized as soon as your lunacy is detected.



Look how dumb you are.
2014-03-13 01:35:32 AM  
2 votes:
That's why I just smuggle booze in using my stomach.
2014-03-13 01:25:01 AM  
2 votes:
You would still get more beer for $8 for two smalls than $7 for the big one and you have two hands. Figure it out.
2014-03-13 01:23:19 AM  
2 votes:
Heh, CenturyLink Field here in Seattle (Seahawks) had the same issue a few years ago.

http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2013877469_hawkbeer08.html
2014-03-13 01:21:28 AM  
2 votes:

BizarreMan: I wonder if the 20oz fitting in the 16oz cup (cost per ounce be damned) was due to the people who were pouring the beer not knowing how to properly fill a beer cup and getting way too much head in the bigger cup.


videos show them using water as well later on to show that the volumes of the cups are nearly identical.
2014-03-12 11:20:58 PM  
2 votes:
I wonder if the 20oz fitting in the 16oz cup (cost per ounce be damned) was due to the people who were pouring the beer not knowing how to properly fill a beer cup and getting way too much head in the bigger cup.
2014-03-12 09:58:17 PM  
2 votes:
How long had this been going on? It should have taken fans about 1 beer to notice this.
2014-03-12 09:52:14 PM  
2 votes:
So you're getting really a large when you pay for a small?  Sounds like a great deal.
2014-03-13 09:13:24 AM  
1 votes:
I don't get angry about this kind of thing anymore. But, it's a very big reason why I don't attend events anymore, and rarely even go out for dinner. For me, feeling ripped off trumps anything positive about the experience.
2014-03-13 08:09:53 AM  
1 votes:

saturn badger: You would still get more beer for $8 for two smalls than $7 for the big one and you have two hands. Figure it out.


Reminds me of when McD's sold 10 nuggets for ~$4 but you could buy 3 orders of 4 nuggets for $3
2014-03-13 06:10:33 AM  
1 votes:

bunner: Been caught stealin'.  So, business in America is now just, optimally, whatever con you can get away with?


Now?  That's how it's always been.


Anyway, if I were king, there'd be random, unannounced audits and I'd revoke the liquor licenses of establishments found to be short-pouring customers.
2014-03-13 03:50:18 AM  
1 votes:
Reductio ad absurdum isn't a logical fallacy, although of course it can be used improperly as I expect most things can.
2014-03-13 02:54:50 AM  
1 votes:

Bob Falfa: How long had this been going on? It should have taken fans about 1 beer to notice this.


Can't figure it out on one beer.  You need at least two.  You gotta look at it this way.  First you order the small beer and drink it and then later you order a large beer and drink that.  That's when you first notice that the small and large maybe had the same about of beer but you aren't sure.  So you decide to order another large and small beer to test that theory.  You drink those but you aren't sure yet so you decide to increase your control group.  You down a couple more large and small beers to test it out and then you rip off your shirt and yell at the opposing teams goalie that their a biatch and you could take them in a one on one.  Repeat process each game and soon you realize why it took so long.
2014-03-13 02:42:21 AM  
1 votes:
Hmm...

16oz beer / $3 = ¢18.75 per oz.
24oz beer / $7 = ¢29.16 per oz.

Doesn't seem like the new cups really address the issue very well. You should get a discount for the greater amount, not a penalty. To make the numbers figure straight you'd need to charge $4.50 for the 24oz beer. Alternatively you could offer a 38oz beer for $7 which would be a slight discount.

I do have to say that $3 for a 16 oz beer at a sports arena sounds pretty cheap. I'd expect to pay $6 or more.
2014-03-13 02:26:36 AM  
1 votes:

yukichigai: If the same company owns both arenas and both are engaging in the same type of fraud, that's definitely a pattern.


Companies don't own arenas, they just lease the names.
2014-03-13 02:16:17 AM  
1 votes:

KidKorporate: yukichigai: Plush_Cthulhu: Heh, CenturyLink Field here in Seattle (Seahawks) had the same issue a few years ago.

http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2013877469_hawkbeer08.html

So they can show a pattern of deliberate misrepresentation even.  Lovely.  That'll make the lawsuit go a lot smoother.

Related: I'd like to see a law that requires vendors to use the actual capacity in ounces as the name of the size you purchase.  No "large" and "small", they can only call it "16oz" and "20oz".  Not just for sports arenas either; amusement parks, carnivals, concert venues, outdoor markets... plenty of areas that pull the same crap.

So, Starbucks will actually be OK with the Venti, then?


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2014-03-13 01:46:27 AM  
1 votes:
Wait, you can get a beer for $4 at an arena !?
2014-03-13 01:33:53 AM  
1 votes:

saturn badger: You would still get more beer for $8 for two smalls than $7 for the big one and you have two hands. Figure it out.


yeah, but I don't think I've actually been in a stadium that gives you a greater value on the larger beers. They rely on people just assuming bigger is better.

I know the manager of some of the vendor stalls and other venues at Comerica Park, and he's told me they have psychologists on the payroll to help maximize the effect of sizing and pricing of drinks and some food items, even making changes to the shapes of glasses to maximize the idea of getting far more than what you are actually served.
2014-03-13 01:31:45 AM  
1 votes:
I've been at a few venues where I've wondered if this was the case...sometimes it's obvious that one beer is bigger than the other but sometimes I wonder if it's just the vendors using people's ignorance against them.  I generally avoid ordering draft beers at sporting events and concerts for this very reason unless it's a situation where the person is carrying the tray of beers and empty cups so you know you're getting the whole beer.

On a side note every stadium in America should have a shelf above the urinals so you can set your beer down while you pee...it severely minimizes the possibility of someone accidentally dropping one into the urinal they're using and that's a positive for them and the people on either side of them.
2014-03-13 01:22:20 AM  
1 votes:
Do what they did at Safeco Field when they got caught doing this "Oops ordered the wrong cups."
2014-03-12 11:57:55 PM  
1 votes:

Confabulat: Bob Falfa: How long had this been going on? It should have taken fans about 1 beer to notice this.

No kidding! TFA references five years!

Five years and no one noticed?


Well, for one thing, Idaho

/for another hockey fans
//five years seems reasonable to me
2014-03-12 11:55:55 PM  
1 votes:

Bob Falfa: How long had this been going on? It should have taken fans about 1 beer to notice this.


No kidding! TFA references five years!

Five years and no one noticed?
 
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