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(ABC)   Idaho hockey fans sue arena after someone discovers $7 cups hold the same amount of beer as $4 ones   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 126
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2014-03-12 09:33:31 PM
As a Canadian, I approve.
 
2014-03-12 09:44:15 PM
Now that is just seriously chickensh*t

/assholes deserve to be sued
//FREE BEER AT ALL GAMES NEXT SEASON!
 
2014-03-12 09:52:14 PM
So you're getting really a large when you pay for a small?  Sounds like a great deal.
 
2014-03-12 09:58:17 PM
How long had this been going on? It should have taken fans about 1 beer to notice this.
 
2014-03-12 10:32:37 PM
They say that they were shooting for 16oz and 20oz and will now go for 24oz "large".   Math says that they have to go to 28oz for a large to be equal in value.

/thieves still
 
2014-03-12 11:20:58 PM
I wonder if the 20oz fitting in the 16oz cup (cost per ounce be damned) was due to the people who were pouring the beer not knowing how to properly fill a beer cup and getting way too much head in the bigger cup.
 
2014-03-12 11:55:55 PM

Bob Falfa: How long had this been going on? It should have taken fans about 1 beer to notice this.


No kidding! TFA references five years!

Five years and no one noticed?
 
2014-03-12 11:57:55 PM

Confabulat: Bob Falfa: How long had this been going on? It should have taken fans about 1 beer to notice this.

No kidding! TFA references five years!

Five years and no one noticed?


Well, for one thing, Idaho

/for another hockey fans
//five years seems reasonable to me
 
2014-03-13 12:38:42 AM
And their beer sucks!

blstb.msn.com
 
2014-03-13 01:21:28 AM

BizarreMan: I wonder if the 20oz fitting in the 16oz cup (cost per ounce be damned) was due to the people who were pouring the beer not knowing how to properly fill a beer cup and getting way too much head in the bigger cup.


videos show them using water as well later on to show that the volumes of the cups are nearly identical.
 
2014-03-13 01:22:11 AM
Just how stupid does one need to be to take five years to figure this out?  Now if the venue say.. claims a "small" at 16 oz and a "large" at 26 oz but they are actually the same size 16 oz then sure.  Other than that it's just a stupid tax.
 
2014-03-13 01:22:20 AM
Do what they did at Safeco Field when they got caught doing this "Oops ordered the wrong cups."
 
2014-03-13 01:22:32 AM
two girls....same cup?
 
2014-03-13 01:23:19 AM
Heh, CenturyLink Field here in Seattle (Seahawks) had the same issue a few years ago.

http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2013877469_hawkbeer08.html
 
2014-03-13 01:25:01 AM
You would still get more beer for $8 for two smalls than $7 for the big one and you have two hands. Figure it out.
 
2014-03-13 01:27:21 AM
They say the cups are 20oz and 16oz, which is a scam in itself based on the prices charged, but the videos show it's more like a 17oz "large" vs the 16oz "small" size cups which is an even bigger ripoff.
 
2014-03-13 01:28:03 AM
The upgrade only goes into effect after your 3rd beer.

How long did it take 'em to notice LOL??
 
2014-03-13 01:28:30 AM
This's why I just bring a couple of flasks with me to sporting events.
 
2014-03-13 01:28:49 AM
Then those who paid $4 should have to pay an additional $3 on the basis that, hey, they got the same amount as the large.
 
2014-03-13 01:29:15 AM

saturn badger: You would still get more beer for $8 for two smalls than $7 for the big one and you have two hands. Figure it out.


Why do you hate honesty in business?
 
2014-03-13 01:29:35 AM

nytmare: They say the cups are 20oz and 16oz, which is a scam in itself based on the prices charged, but the videos show it's more like a 17oz "large" vs the 16oz "small" size cups which is an even bigger ripoff.


It's incredibly sad that we are losing common sense at such an alarming rate.

/two larges please
 
2014-03-13 01:29:46 AM
Off to look for a quick ratio app. At the grocery I tend to purchase on unit price. Was shopping at Lowes where the same cleaning wipes come in six different prices and quantities.

/hotdog stand out front should really sell beer
//and now know to buy two smalls.
///never ordered a small before.
 
2014-03-13 01:29:58 AM

Plush_Cthulhu: Heh, CenturyLink Field here in Seattle (Seahawks) had the same issue a few years ago.

http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2013877469_hawkbeer08.html


So they can show a pattern of deliberate misrepresentation even.  Lovely.  That'll make the lawsuit go a lot smoother.

Related: I'd like to see a law that requires vendors to use the actual capacity in ounces as the name of the size you purchase.  No "large" and "small", they can only call it "16oz" and "20oz".  Not just for sports arenas either; amusement parks, carnivals, concert venues, outdoor markets... plenty of areas that pull the same crap.
 
2014-03-13 01:31:45 AM
I've been at a few venues where I've wondered if this was the case...sometimes it's obvious that one beer is bigger than the other but sometimes I wonder if it's just the vendors using people's ignorance against them.  I generally avoid ordering draft beers at sporting events and concerts for this very reason unless it's a situation where the person is carrying the tray of beers and empty cups so you know you're getting the whole beer.

On a side note every stadium in America should have a shelf above the urinals so you can set your beer down while you pee...it severely minimizes the possibility of someone accidentally dropping one into the urinal they're using and that's a positive for them and the people on either side of them.
 
2014-03-13 01:31:46 AM
He renames it Heath and Gwen size; is promptly sued again.
 
2014-03-13 01:33:22 AM

yukichigai: Plush_Cthulhu: Heh, CenturyLink Field here in Seattle (Seahawks) had the same issue a few years ago.

http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2013877469_hawkbeer08.html

So they can show a pattern of deliberate misrepresentation even.  Lovely.  That'll make the lawsuit go a lot smoother.

Related: I'd like to see a law that requires vendors to use the actual capacity in ounces as the name of the size you purchase.  No "large" and "small", they can only call it "16oz" and "20oz".  Not just for sports arenas either; amusement parks, carnivals, concert venues, outdoor markets... plenty of areas that pull the same crap.


I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
 
2014-03-13 01:33:51 AM
I got away with nearly the same thing with my ex-wife for nearly 3 yrs.
 
2014-03-13 01:33:53 AM

saturn badger: You would still get more beer for $8 for two smalls than $7 for the big one and you have two hands. Figure it out.


yeah, but I don't think I've actually been in a stadium that gives you a greater value on the larger beers. They rely on people just assuming bigger is better.

I know the manager of some of the vendor stalls and other venues at Comerica Park, and he's told me they have psychologists on the payroll to help maximize the effect of sizing and pricing of drinks and some food items, even making changes to the shapes of glasses to maximize the idea of getting far more than what you are actually served.
 
2014-03-13 01:35:32 AM
That's why I just smuggle booze in using my stomach.
 
2014-03-13 01:37:09 AM
At spring training at the Diablo stadium (angels) a few years ago I didn't have the option to buy two larges, quantity was limited to two smalls or one large at a time, not sure what the volumes of the cups were though.
 
2014-03-13 01:38:43 AM
history repeats itself as farce
 
2014-03-13 01:46:27 AM
Wait, you can get a beer for $4 at an arena !?
 
2014-03-13 01:47:41 AM

Torion!: Off to look for a quick ratio app.


isn't that called a "calculator"?
 
2014-03-13 01:47:56 AM

yukichigai: Plush_Cthulhu: Heh, CenturyLink Field here in Seattle (Seahawks) had the same issue a few years ago.

http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2013877469_hawkbeer08.html

So they can show a pattern of deliberate misrepresentation even.  Lovely.  That'll make the lawsuit go a lot smoother.

Related: I'd like to see a law that requires vendors to use the actual capacity in ounces as the name of the size you purchase.  No "large" and "small", they can only call it "16oz" and "20oz".  Not just for sports arenas either; amusement parks, carnivals, concert venues, outdoor markets... plenty of areas that pull the same crap.


Totaly agree and they never fix it until they get caught which can take yeas as this case clearly shows.
 
2014-03-13 01:53:30 AM

BizarreMan: I wonder if the 20oz fitting in the 16oz cup (cost per ounce be damned) was due to the people who were pouring the beer not knowing how to properly fill a beer cup and getting way too much head in the bigger cup.


I found getting married helped solve this problem.
 
2014-03-13 01:54:11 AM
Idiots! This is why you get blakout drunk in the parkinglot before you enter the stadium. With my method you never have to worry about buying beer once the game starts.
 
2014-03-13 01:56:52 AM
didn't I read this in the sports tab a couple days ago?
 
2014-03-13 01:59:22 AM

yukichigai: Related: I'd like to see a law that requires vendors to use the actual capacity in ounces as the name of the size you purchase.


Why should there be such a law? Should there be a law requiring them to offer small and large? Maybe medium as well? Should there be a law requiring them to make a drink of any size you request, at any price? Perhaps a law insuring that they have your favorite beer on tap? I'd like to see a law that requires people like you to be sterilized as soon as your lunacy is detected.
 
2014-03-13 02:01:10 AM

Plush_Cthulhu: Heh, CenturyLink Field here in Seattle (Seahawks) had the same issue a few years ago.

http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2013877469_hawkbeer08.html


Seems like this is a CenturyLink issue...
 
2014-03-13 02:01:27 AM

proteus_b: yukichigai: Related: I'd like to see a law that requires vendors to use the actual capacity in ounces as the name of the size you purchase.

Why should there be such a law? Should there be a law requiring them to offer small and large? Maybe medium as well? Should there be a law requiring them to make a drink of any size you request, at any price? Perhaps a law insuring that they have your favorite beer on tap? I'd like to see a law that requires people like you to be sterilized as soon as your lunacy is detected.


Yes, because all of those things are TOTALLY the same as requiring vendors to tell you the actual measurable size of the beverage you are about to purchase so you can figure out if they're trying to cheat you.
 
2014-03-13 02:03:50 AM

proteus_b: yukichigai: Related: I'd like to see a law that requires vendors to use the actual capacity in ounces as the name of the size you purchase.

Why should there be such a law? Should there be a law requiring them to offer small and large? Maybe medium as well? Should there be a law requiring them to make a drink of any size you request, at any price? Perhaps a law insuring that they have your favorite beer on tap? I'd like to see a law that requires people like you to be sterilized as soon as your lunacy is detected.


BINGO!!!!!! YESSSS!!!!

Reductio ad absurdum was the last logical fallacy I needed on today's bingo sheet to get the win. Thanks so much for that.
 
2014-03-13 02:04:24 AM
beer is overpriced at sporting events?
omg.
 
2014-03-13 02:06:30 AM
Sounds like a visitor tax- home fans would have been fooled at most once.  Visiting fans wouldn't know until it was too late.
 
2014-03-13 02:08:10 AM

yukichigai: Plush_Cthulhu: Heh, CenturyLink Field here in Seattle (Seahawks) had the same issue a few years ago.

http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2013877469_hawkbeer08.html

So they can show a pattern of deliberate misrepresentation even.  Lovely.  That'll make the lawsuit go a lot smoother.

Related: I'd like to see a law that requires vendors to use the actual capacity in ounces as the name of the size you purchase.  No "large" and "small", they can only call it "16oz" and "20oz".  Not just for sports arenas either; amusement parks, carnivals, concert venues, outdoor markets... plenty of areas that pull the same crap.


So, Starbucks will actually be OK with the Venti, then?
 
2014-03-13 02:11:05 AM

hardinparamedic: And their beer sucks!


And "they're" beer sucks..
/ficksed becuz beer..
//mmmm..drunk beer.
 
2014-03-13 02:11:59 AM

proteus_b: yukichigai: Related: I'd like to see a law that requires vendors to use the actual capacity in ounces as the name of the size you purchase.

Why should there be such a law? Should there be a law requiring them to offer small and large? Maybe medium as well? Should there be a law requiring them to make a drink of any size you request, at any price? Perhaps a law insuring that they have your favorite beer on tap? I'd like to see a law that requires people like you to be sterilized as soon as your lunacy is detected.



Look how dumb you are.
 
2014-03-13 02:15:27 AM
Also, a bowl of soup has the same amount as a cup of soup. Or so I've been told by two restaurateurs.


/restaurateurs, odd word
 
2014-03-13 02:16:17 AM

KidKorporate: yukichigai: Plush_Cthulhu: Heh, CenturyLink Field here in Seattle (Seahawks) had the same issue a few years ago.

http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawks/2013877469_hawkbeer08.html

So they can show a pattern of deliberate misrepresentation even.  Lovely.  That'll make the lawsuit go a lot smoother.

Related: I'd like to see a law that requires vendors to use the actual capacity in ounces as the name of the size you purchase.  No "large" and "small", they can only call it "16oz" and "20oz".  Not just for sports arenas either; amusement parks, carnivals, concert venues, outdoor markets... plenty of areas that pull the same crap.

So, Starbucks will actually be OK with the Venti, then?


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2014-03-13 02:17:20 AM
I was just at a bar that featured a 16 OZ Pint and a 20 OZ Pint. That must be fun to see when you're OCD.
 
2014-03-13 02:17:41 AM

PreMortem: Also, a bowl of soup has the same amount as a cup of soup. Or so I've been told by two restaurateurs.


/restaurateurs, odd word


Nah I've worked in plenty of restaurants and that's not true where I've worked. Most people never eat more than a cup though.
 
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