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(CNN)   China believes they have identified the wreckage of missing Malaysian plane at sea   (cnn.com) divider line 177
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2014-03-12 05:39:49 PM  
i897.photobucket.com
That's what's there.

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/4894

If that is indeed where they are reporting it, this may be speculation.
 
2014-03-12 08:21:08 PM  
Looks shopped
 
2014-03-12 08:22:01 PM  
China just wants attention.
 
2014-03-12 08:22:02 PM  
Yeah, but they also believe that MSG is good for you, so...
 
2014-03-12 08:22:52 PM  
I was having fun with my theory that the plane was stolen. Everybody was in some bumfark airport in the middle of the jungle, safe and reasonably sound. Plane was off in Dubai or mainland China getting some new docs and paint.
 
2014-03-12 08:23:25 PM  
National Intelligence Assets... GO!
 
2014-03-12 08:25:47 PM  
Last line of article: "What is a transponder?"

Maybe you should have looked that up before you started writing an article about a missing airplane, CNN.
 
2014-03-12 08:26:00 PM  
Simplest explanation that matches available data wins again, suckers.
 
2014-03-12 08:26:08 PM  
i897.photobucket.com
From an aviation forum.  Looks.... kinda like a match for the tailpiece.
 
2014-03-12 08:26:33 PM  
They've known this since Monday?

I'm starting to think something is fishy.
 
2014-03-12 08:27:13 PM  
"The pilot replied "Okay, received, goodnight" when Malaysian air traffic controllers signed off and told the plane it was entering Vietnam's airspace. Vietnamese controllers say they never heard from the aircraft."

http://news.sky.com/story/1225034/missing-malaysia-plane-debris-imag es -released
 
2014-03-12 08:29:08 PM  
I was about to ask someone if they ever found the jet. Apparently "maybe" is the answer.

Did anyone ever happen check under the Malaysian Airlines paint job for "Police Box Public Call"?
 
2014-03-12 08:29:36 PM  
They tracked their missile to where it also disappeared?
 
2014-03-12 08:30:17 PM  
Hopefully this pans out.  The not knowing must be hell on the family and friends and I'm sure they could really use the closure, as little consolation as that may be.
 
2014-03-12 08:30:45 PM  
Could also be a boat from the Japanese tsunami disaster.  The  Navy  sank one a couple of weeks ago.
 
2014-03-12 08:31:25 PM  
Time to figure out where we'll bury the survivors.
 
2014-03-12 08:31:46 PM  

Old Man Winter: China just wants attention.


Most of the people on that plane are, alive or dead, Chinese.
 
2014-03-12 08:32:19 PM  
 It's not the Malaysian plane- It's actually just a cheap knock off of a much better designed plane crash.
 
2014-03-12 08:32:19 PM  
So, the question would be "who's pilot freaked out and shot it down"?
 
2014-03-12 08:32:25 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-12 08:32:36 PM  

MFAWG: They've known this since Monday?

I'm starting to think something is fishy.


Yeah, no state has EVER taken the time to make sure they knew what they were talking about before releasing information.
 
2014-03-12 08:32:53 PM  
China planted some debris, took a lousy spy sat. picture of just so they can see how hig-res of an image the U.S. can produce.  They just want info on our spying capabilities.


...or it could be the pain killers talking
 
2014-03-12 08:33:27 PM  

MFAWG: They've known this since Monday?

I'm starting to think something is fishy.


yeah the crew and passengers

/fishy food that is
//gett'n chummy with the sharks
///yup go'n to hell
 
2014-03-12 08:37:13 PM  

GWSuperfan: MFAWG: They've known this since Monday?

I'm starting to think something is fishy.

Yeah, no state has EVER taken the time to make sure they knew what they were talking about before releasing information.


Indeed.

1.  China is not about to report something that they aren't relatively certain of.  Pride and "saving face" seems to be quite important in Asian cultures.
2.  Takes time to paw through raw data, obviously.
3.  My guess is that China already has ships there or en-route (reports are Malaysian authorities haven't even seen these photos before their public release).  The majority of passengers were Chinese nationals and Malaysia has come off as rather incompetent through all of this.  Maybe China is saying "Yeah, we got this.  Go be Malaysian somewhere else."
 
2014-03-12 08:37:20 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: China planted some debris, took a lousy spy sat. picture of just so they can see how hig-res of an image the U.S. can produce.  They just want info on our spying capabilities.


...or it could be the pain killers talking


I want what you're on.
 
2014-03-12 08:37:57 PM  
I'm just waiting for the news that one of the people on the plane was traveling using the stolen passport of Amelia Earhart.
 
2014-03-12 08:38:52 PM  
That's JUST what the grey communist aliens WANT you to think happened.
 
2014-03-12 08:39:04 PM  

jtips: "The pilot replied "Okay, received, goodnight" when Malaysian air traffic controllers signed off and told the plane it was entering Vietnam's airspace. Vietnamese controllers say they never heard from the aircraft."

http://news.sky.com/story/1225034/missing-malaysia-plane-debris-imag es -released


It was morning. Why did he say goodnight? This PROVES it was an alien lightning bolt from a Muslim meteor.
 
2014-03-12 08:39:55 PM  
Sure, but an hour later China will just want to find another plane.
 
2014-03-12 08:40:07 PM  
Weird video alongside the article. I appreciated hearing about the ocean depth and seeing the current vectors.

Also I am glad he took a stab at answering the question could those pieces come from the aircraft. But his answer was poor and terribly done.

And I'm not sure anyone is "going to go under the water to *salvage* the airplane"
 
2014-03-12 08:41:08 PM  

GWSuperfan: MFAWG: They've known this since Monday?

I'm starting to think something is fishy.

Yeah, no state has EVER taken the time to make sure they knew what they were talking about before releasing information.


So if that's the reason, why are they still not saying anything for sure about it?  Any why haven't any boats gone to the location?  I agree, it does sound fishy somewhat.
 
2014-03-12 08:41:20 PM  
So China, using their spy satellite, finds the tail section of the plane, and knew about it since Monday and didn't bother telling the entire planet until now. That's....Odd.

What's funny will be seeing how the American right-wing echochamber will spin this development as being Obama's fault somehow.
 
2014-03-12 08:41:57 PM  
Anayalator:
This PROVES it was an alien lightning bolt from a Muslim meteor.

What a Muslim meteor may look like:
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-03-12 08:42:16 PM  
I assume they will quickly build a factory and offer us cut-rate versions of the debris  Except actual human debris, which they will hold long enough to determine whether any found near the body is worth more for.

/me, consider the Chins a bit greedy?   No, of course not.  As long as they are not in sole possession of something you desire above all other things.  then, of course, all bets are off.


"Chinese government very sorry about loss of your (whisper) 'ichiban' son".  Have discovered what are .999 certain to be remains.  Process was expensive.  $25000 US, if you do not tell the US government.  Then costs go up.  Oh, so much up.

/the Chinese are the Ferengi of this planet.
 
2014-03-12 08:42:46 PM  
Enhance... enhance... enhance... Yep- the tail section says 'Boing 778'- knock off.

Sent from my eyefone.
 
2014-03-12 08:43:03 PM  
The Malaysian witch doctor was just hired and within hours they find the plane.

Coincidence?
 
2014-03-12 08:43:31 PM  

RoyBatty: Weird video alongside the article. I appreciated hearing about the ocean depth and seeing the current vectors.

Also I am glad he took a stab at answering the question could those pieces come from the aircraft. But his answer was poor and terribly done.

And I'm not sure anyone is "going to go under the water to *salvage* the airplane"


Salvage might be a strong word, but if they do find the wreckage I can basically guarantee they'll send people down after it.
 
2014-03-12 08:43:52 PM  
What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?
 
2014-03-12 08:45:52 PM  
I once pinged a black box.
 
2014-03-12 08:46:38 PM  
Actually the NSA and CIA know exactly what happened to the plane but revealing this information would tip everyone off about a super secret spying operation.
 
2014-03-12 08:47:19 PM  
Save the parts, they're worth a fortune.
 
2014-03-12 08:47:29 PM  

LasersHurt: RoyBatty: Weird video alongside the article. I appreciated hearing about the ocean depth and seeing the current vectors.

Also I am glad he took a stab at answering the question could those pieces come from the aircraft. But his answer was poor and terribly done.

And I'm not sure anyone is "going to go under the water to *salvage* the airplane"

Salvage might be a strong word, but if they do find the wreckage I can basically guarantee they'll send people down after it.


Won't they at least want to recover the black box?
 
2014-03-12 08:48:08 PM  
wtf-film.com
 
2014-03-12 08:48:36 PM  

guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?


The contents of the plane dropped straight down from 35,000 feet?
 
2014-03-12 08:49:16 PM  

GWSuperfan: MFAWG: They've known this since Monday?

I'm starting to think something is fishy.

Yeah, no state has EVER taken the time to make sure they knew what they were talking about before releasing information.


The True Detective Syndrome has spilled over into this. It is just sad that people's expectations are so warped that they expect a twist in the outcomes of real life events. It was Marty's wife and her father's Yellow King cult.
 
2014-03-12 08:49:44 PM  

guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?


A part with both a body section and a wing section.
 
2014-03-12 08:49:51 PM  

uncleacid: I once pinged a black box.


everybody, everybody.
 
2014-03-12 08:53:21 PM  

guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?


The tail wingspan is about 71', so it's possible that's what they're looking at - tail wingspan and rear fuselage.
 
2014-03-12 08:53:37 PM  

nekom: GWSuperfan: MFAWG: They've known this since Monday?

I'm starting to think something is fishy.

Yeah, no state has EVER taken the time to make sure they knew what they were talking about before releasing information.

Indeed.

1.  China is not about to report something that they aren't relatively certain of.  Pride and "saving face" seems to be quite important in Asian cultures.
2.  Takes time to paw through raw data, obviously.
3.  My guess is that China already has ships there or en-route (reports are Malaysian authorities haven't even seen these photos before their public release).  The majority of passengers were Chinese nationals and Malaysia has come off as rather incompetent through all of this.  Maybe China is saying "Yeah, we got this.  Go be Malaysian somewhere else."


I said it. You said it. The article says it.

Let's try again:

MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON THE PLANE WERE CHINESE.
 
2014-03-12 08:54:56 PM  

guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?


A big chunk of the fuselage/wing box. Or a peeled out section of skin. Or it's a raft of smaller crap.

No individual peice, but I suspect there are lots of ways to get those dimensions to fit into the smashed hulk of a 777.
 
2014-03-12 08:55:25 PM  

Turfshoe: Sure, but an hour later China will just want to find another plane.


sadly, this.
 
2014-03-12 08:56:01 PM  
Read between the lines people!!! China shot the plane down using their spy satellite! We can't let them think they can get away with this! We need to use one of our spy satellites to shoot down a plane full of Americans to teach them a lesson.

/I need to tell Alex Jones about this...
//seriously, I wish they would find something just so the passengers families can start healing.
 
2014-03-12 08:56:03 PM  

uncleacid: I once pinged a black box.


/rimshot
//rimshot?
 
2014-03-12 08:56:05 PM  

ISO15693: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

A part with both a body section and a wing section.


The sections are square in shape. That plane can't produce a 79'x72' square piece of wreckage
 
2014-03-12 08:57:27 PM  
I don't watch CNN, is this Wolf he's talking to in kindergarten?
 
2014-03-12 08:58:09 PM  

sanriosucks: Yeah, but they also believe that MSG is good for you, so...


MSG is good for proprietors of Chinese food restaurants in America.
 
2014-03-12 08:58:11 PM  

guywhore: ISO15693: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

A part with both a body section and a wing section.

The sections are square in shape. That plane can't produce a 79'x72' square piece of wreckage


Origami
 
2014-03-12 08:58:11 PM  

costermonger: Or it's a raft of smaller crap.

No individual peice, but I suspect there are lots of ways to get those dimensions to fit into the smashed hulk of a 777.


Absolutely.  There's an awful lot of wiring bundles and cables and whatnot (aviation term) that would tether wreckage together.
 
2014-03-12 08:59:01 PM  
if the chinese are wrong...then this is disorienting...
 
2014-03-12 08:59:33 PM  

guywhore: ISO15693: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

A part with both a body section and a wing section.

The sections are square in shape. That plane can't produce a 79'x72' square piece of wreckage


Where the hell do you get the idea that they are "square"? Because two dimensions were given?
 
2014-03-12 08:59:51 PM  

Skunkwolf: I was having fun with my theory that the plane was stolen. Everybody was in some bumfark airport in the middle of the jungle, safe and reasonably sound. Plane was off in Dubai or mainland China getting some new docs and paint.


Been saying this to people for a couple days. It would be nice if it was true.
 
2014-03-12 09:00:59 PM  
China should know where the plane is because, they shot it down.
 
2014-03-12 09:01:14 PM  
WAAAAAAAAAARRRRTT!
 
2014-03-12 09:01:44 PM  
If nekom's image above is the 79' x 72' piece, that's certainly consistent with the tail section dimensions of a 777.  And it's certainly not square.
 
2014-03-12 09:01:55 PM  

LasersHurt: guywhore: ISO15693: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

A part with both a body section and a wing section.

The sections are square in shape. That plane can't produce a 79'x72' square piece of wreckage

Where the hell do you get the idea that they are "square"? Because two dimensions were given?


That's what I'm wondering. Also pixels.
 
2014-03-12 09:02:02 PM  
science1.nasa.gov
 
2014-03-12 09:04:25 PM  
we need to get there before the Chinese. Otherwise this tech will fall into their hands

img2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-12 09:05:04 PM  

guywhore: ISO15693: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

A part with both a body section and a wing section.

The sections are square in shape. That plane can't produce a 79'x72' square piece of wreckage


Square?
 
2014-03-12 09:05:30 PM  

LasersHurt: guywhore: ISO15693: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

A part with both a body section and a wing section.

The sections are square in shape. That plane can't produce a 79'x72' square piece of wreckage

Where the hell do you get the idea that they are "square"? Because two dimensions were given?


I got the idea from reading the article asshat. I think it was the part that said they were fairly square and large.
 
2014-03-12 09:06:01 PM  

lifeboat: If nekom's image above is the 79' x 72' piece, that's certainly consistent with the tail section dimensions of a 777.  And it's certainly not square.


As 'grainy as hell satellite shot' images go, yeah, looks about right to me.

And a half-way recognizable tail section is about the only part of the aircraft you could expect to be half-way recognizable if not a peep was heard from an ELT.
 
2014-03-12 09:06:27 PM  

ISO15693: guywhore: ISO15693: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

A part with both a body section and a wing section.

The sections are square in shape. That plane can't produce a 79'x72' square piece of wreckage

Square?


Do you people even read the articles. Yes square.
 
2014-03-12 09:06:29 PM  
Since they shot it down I'm pretty sure they have a good idea where to find the wreckage.
 
2014-03-12 09:08:21 PM  

guywhore: LasersHurt: guywhore: ISO15693: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

A part with both a body section and a wing section.

The sections are square in shape. That plane can't produce a 79'x72' square piece of wreckage

Where the hell do you get the idea that they are "square"? Because two dimensions were given?

I got the idea from reading the article asshat. I think it was the part that said they were fairly square and large.


A conde-naste editor said they were square. Your own eyes can tell you they are not.
 
2014-03-12 09:09:08 PM  
They took a photo of a search plane.
 
2014-03-12 09:09:09 PM  
They shoulda went with the pro...
i1079.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-12 09:10:16 PM  

guywhore: ISO15693: guywhore: ISO15693: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

A part with both a body section and a wing section.

The sections are square in shape. That plane can't produce a 79'x72' square piece of wreckage

Square?

Do you people even read the articles. Yes square.


You know how when the media reports on something you're intimately familiar with, they get a lot (sometimes most) of the details wrong?

It's best to assume they're always like that, even if you don't know for sure.
 
2014-03-12 09:11:00 PM  

GWSuperfan: MFAWG: They've known this since Monday?

I'm starting to think something is fishy.

Yeah, no state has EVER taken the time to make sure they knew what they were talking about before releasing information.


*insert Benghazi joke here*
 
2014-03-12 09:14:08 PM  

guywhore: ISO15693: guywhore: ISO15693: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

A part with both a body section and a wing section.

The sections are square in shape. That plane can't produce a 79'x72' square piece of wreckage

Square?

Do you people even read the articles. Yes square.


I see where you went wrong.  You are quoting a Conde Nast Traveler editor's words.  The article doesn't say anything about it being "square" besides that guy.  Keep up the good work at getting mad at everyone.
 
2014-03-12 09:15:32 PM  

LasersHurt: guywhore: LasersHurt: guywhore: ISO15693: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

A part with both a body section and a wing section.

The sections are square in shape. That plane can't produce a 79'x72' square piece of wreckage

Where the hell do you get the idea that they are "square"? Because two dimensions were given?

I got the idea from reading the article asshat. I think it was the part that said they were fairly square and large.

A conde-naste editor said they were square. Your own eyes can tell you they are not.


I haven't seen pictures well enough and neither have you
 
2014-03-12 09:16:08 PM  

guywhore: I haven't seen pictures well enough and neither have you


I can see the one in the thread, right here. Can you see it?
 
2014-03-12 09:19:43 PM  
A disintegration would have a large debris field, and that debris isn't going to stay together for an extended period of time like this.  Currents, waves, etc are going to scatter pieces over time.

There have been way too many boats, planes, satellites and other things looking for this plane.


The more time that passes, the more I think the fuselage is damn near intact and on the ocean floor.
 
2014-03-12 09:23:15 PM  

lindalouwho: Old Man Winter: China just wants attention.

Most of the people on that plane are, alive or dead, Chinese.


At this point, they're mostly dead.
 
2014-03-12 09:24:50 PM  

Skunkwolf: I was having fun with my theory that the plane was stolen. Everybody was in some bumfark airport in the middle of the jungle, safe and reasonably sound. Plane was off in Dubai or mainland China getting some new docs and paint.


I was thinking somali pirates expanded operations and decided to grab a plane. I pictured the plane, wings chopped off, tucked into some back ally in Mogadishu while the pirates get around to making a ransom video.
 
2014-03-12 09:24:58 PM  

lifeboat: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

The tail wingspan is about 71', so it's possible that's what they're looking at - tail wingspan and rear fuselage.


Realistically, I think not. While the size is feasible, a part of that size still being floating well over 24 hours later when they made the satellite pass is not. And while the sea in that area is quite shallow, it's not shallow enough to see man-made objects sitting on the bottom with standard photography.
 
2014-03-12 09:25:05 PM  
The debris is along the normal flight path, but we're told the plane was a couple hundred miles off course.

Am I the only one kinda hoping they don't find it? Makes for a hell of a story.
 
2014-03-12 09:25:12 PM  

MyRandomName: They tracked their missile to where it also disappeared?


Yes, China shot down a plane that was about 2/3rds full of their own citizens.

img3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-03-12 09:25:33 PM  
Hey, remember "Airport '77" where the plane crashed and ended up mostly intact underwater?

They're dead in their 777 flying coffin.
 
2014-03-12 09:26:33 PM  

MyRandomName: They tracked their missile to where it also disappeared?


Was going to say... they shot it down, of course they know where it went.  "Oh hey guys, what's THIS over HERE???"
 
2014-03-12 09:27:13 PM  

LasersHurt: guywhore: I haven't seen pictures well enough and neither have you

I can see the one in the thread, right here. Can you see it?


Yes and it's square! I'm right. I'm always right. The faster you learn this the better for everyone
 
2014-03-12 09:28:04 PM  
Wessoman:
What's funny will be seeing how the American right-wing echochamber will spin this development as being Obama's fault somehow.

That's the first I've seen of that sort of thing.  Tell us more about what those right wingers are going to do.
 
2014-03-12 09:28:13 PM  

Pick13: China should know where the plane is because, they shot it down.


moto-geek: Since they shot it down I'm pretty sure they have a good idea where to find the wreckage.


grumpfuff: Yes, China shot down a plane that was about 2/3rds full of their own citizens.

[img3.wikia.nocookie.net image 555x417]

 
2014-03-12 09:29:22 PM  
"This is not the end. This is not the beginning of the end. It is the end of the beginning."
 
2014-03-12 09:31:50 PM  

MFAWG: They've known this since Monday?

I'm starting to think something is fishy.


Remember, this is in contrast to the Malaysians who have decided to speak about every possible outcome and have looked like utter morons chasing their tail.

I think they thought it was best to be patient and verify the findings as best they could, as well as wait a few more days for the Malaysians to tire themselves out from changing their story every three hours. Even something like this could get lost in the public eye if another country involved is still flailing their arms all about.
 
2014-03-12 09:34:01 PM  

nekom: [i897.photobucket.com image 850x566]
That's what's there.

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/4894


Out of curiosity: what are you using to sync up the tomnod maps with Lat/Lon coordinates? I did not see any indication of coordinates and the map numbers don't seem to have any (obvious) relationship.
 
2014-03-12 09:36:54 PM  
The fact that the images were captured Sunday does not mean they were analyzed the same day.  It unlikely that this picture is the only one they captured on that day.
 
2014-03-12 09:37:00 PM  

Mouser: [science1.nasa.gov image 255x215]


I see a butt.
 
2014-03-12 09:38:33 PM  

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Last line of article: "What is a transponder?"

Maybe you should have looked that up before you started writing an article about a missing airplane, CNN.


That's a link to a page that explains what a transponder is....
 
2014-03-12 09:38:54 PM  

Gyrfalcon: lindalouwho: Old Man Winter: China just wants attention.

Most of the people on that plane are, alive or dead, Chinese.

At this point, they're mostly dead.


media.tumblr.com
 
2014-03-12 09:39:59 PM  

gweilo8888: lifeboat: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

The tail wingspan is about 71', so it's possible that's what they're looking at - tail wingspan and rear fuselage.

Realistically, I think not. While the size is feasible, a part of that size still being floating well over 24 hours later when they made the satellite pass is not. And while the sea in that area is quite shallow, it's not shallow enough to see man-made objects sitting on the bottom with standard photography.


It may not be all that deep there, and something fairly big and white would show up to a pretty good depth - depending on sea state.  Probably not much for visible pollution that far from shore.
 
2014-03-12 09:43:53 PM  
I don't think it would float , what with it's cargo hold full of Bitcoins ...
 
2014-03-12 09:44:21 PM  

Worst Name I Ever Heard: nekom: [i897.photobucket.com image 850x566]
That's what's there.

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/4894

Out of curiosity: what are you using to sync up the tomnod maps with Lat/Lon coordinates? I did not see any indication of coordinates and the map numbers don't seem to have any (obvious) relationship.


replace "challenge" in the URL with "api" and it will give you the lat/lon
 
2014-03-12 09:46:32 PM  
It's incredible the things the Chinese can do with stolen technology.
 
2014-03-12 09:47:43 PM  
nekom:
replace "challenge" in the URL with "api" and it will give you the lat/lon

Oh...cool! Thanks for the tip.

Did you discover this on your own or is there some documentation somewhere?
 
2014-03-12 09:48:10 PM  

TommyDeuce:
It may not be all that deep there, and something fairly big and white would show up to a pretty good depth - depending on sea state. .

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-12 09:50:15 PM  

uncleacid: I once pinged a black box.


i take it you never went back
 
2014-03-12 09:51:20 PM  
Did they use Doc's metasonic locator?
 
2014-03-12 09:52:49 PM  
It's a street light
 
2014-03-12 09:52:57 PM  

Gyrfalcon: lindalouwho: Old Man Winter: China just wants attention.

Most of the people on that plane are, alive or dead, Chinese.

At this point, they're mostly dead.


Nah, if they jumped up in the air the moment the plane hit, they could make it.  They could be holding on to seat cushions that also serve as a life preserver, I saw the video.
 
2014-03-12 09:56:48 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: China planted some debris, took a lousy spy sat. picture of just so they can see how hig-res of an image the U.S. can produce.  They just want info on our spying capabilities.


...or it could be the pain killers talking


Yeah. . . You seen the high res goggle earth imagery or USGS hi res imagery? It feels like you can look through the Window of a house, and you could if the angle was shallow enough.

No one has any questions about how good of images US spy satellites can take.
 
2014-03-12 10:00:03 PM  

RidersOfLohan: we need to get there before the Chinese. Otherwise this tech will fall into their hands

[img2.wikia.nocookie.net image 420x297]


That's détente, comrade: you don't have it, I don't have it...
 
2014-03-12 10:01:56 PM  

Worst Name I Ever Heard: nekom:
replace "challenge" in the URL with "api" and it will give you the lat/lon

Oh...cool! Thanks for the tip.

Did you discover this on your own or is there some documentation somewhere?


Someone at airliners.net posted that fun factoid, so I can't take credit for it.  Just spreading the word.
 
2014-03-12 10:03:04 PM  

uncleacid: I once pinged a black box.


One ping only?
 
2014-03-12 10:14:41 PM  

Pick13: China should know where the plane is because, they shot it down.


There was a guy who committed a murder a while ago. His wife 'disappeared' and they suspected her body was dumped in a certain area. He led the group that 'discovered' her remains. Yes, some people really are that stupid. He's rotting in jail right now. So the saying is true, "who smelled it dealt it."
 
2014-03-12 10:14:55 PM  

TommyDeuce: uncleacid: I once pinged a black box.

One ping only?


Sees what you did there
.images.moviefanatic.com
 
2014-03-12 10:25:10 PM  

lindalouwho: Old Man Winter: China just wants attention.

Most of the people on that plane are, alive or dead, Chinese.


Well, it's not like there's a shortage of them ...
 
2014-03-12 10:33:41 PM  

LasersHurt: guywhore: ISO15693: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

A part with both a body section and a wing section.

The sections are square in shape. That plane can't produce a 79'x72' square piece of wreckage

Where the hell do you get the idea that they are "square"? Because two dimensions were given?


Because CONSPIRACY!
 
2014-03-12 10:34:33 PM  

grumpfuff: MyRandomName: They tracked their missile to where it also disappeared?

Yes, China shot down a plane that was about 2/3rds full of their own citizens.

[img3.wikia.nocookie.net image 555x417]


It's not like the Chinese Government has ever shown any restraint in killing their own citizens before. :)
 
2014-03-12 10:35:02 PM  

nekom: Worst Name I Ever Heard: nekom: [i897.photobucket.com image 850x566]
That's what's there.

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/4894

Out of curiosity: what are you using to sync up the tomnod maps with Lat/Lon coordinates? I did not see any indication of coordinates and the map numbers don't seem to have any (obvious) relationship.

replace "challenge" in the URL with "api" and it will give you the lat/lon


Just out of curiousity, are you active at the airliners.net forum where this lost flight is being discussed?
 
2014-03-12 10:36:05 PM  
I blame the Yellow King
 
2014-03-12 10:36:36 PM  
Nevermind, saw you grabbed that info from the forums - for sure much more adult discourse and discussion than here on Fark. I shouldn't be surprised though.
 
2014-03-12 10:42:40 PM  

The_Hound: Nevermind, saw you grabbed that info from the forums - for sure much more adult discourse and discussion than here on Fark. I shouldn't be surprised though.


No doubt.
 
2014-03-12 10:45:48 PM  

nekom: [i897.photobucket.com image 850x422]
From an aviation forum.  Looks.... kinda like a match for the tailpiece.


img3.wikia.nocookie.net


seems legit.
 
2014-03-12 10:49:51 PM  

SithLord: nekom: [i897.photobucket.com image 850x422]
From an aviation forum.  Looks.... kinda like a match for the tailpiece.

[img3.wikia.nocookie.net image 720x424]


seems legit.


Right. totally legit.

/nevermind the insignia is completely wrong
 
2014-03-12 10:50:06 PM  

RoyBatty: Gyrfalcon: lindalouwho: Old Man Winter: China just wants attention.

Most of the people on that plane are, alive or dead, Chinese.

At this point, they're mostly dead.

[media.tumblr.com image 360x198]


I'll just come back later then when they're all dead so I can go through their clothes and look for loose change.
 
2014-03-12 10:52:10 PM  
i1.ytimg.com

Bakersfield?
 
2014-03-12 10:53:04 PM  
Looking at the report on CNN, thus was found about 140 miles from where the plane disappeared. Now, where is this in relation to the oil platform where someone said they saw a plane in flames. That being said, I hope they get some answers soon, for the families sake.
 
2014-03-12 10:53:06 PM  

hardinparamedic: grumpfuff: MyRandomName: They tracked their missile to where it also disappeared?

Yes, China shot down a plane that was about 2/3rds full of their own citizens.

[img3.wikia.nocookie.net image 555x417]

It's not like the Chinese Government has ever shown any restraint in killing their own citizens before. :)


Fair enough, but it's not like China really had anything to gain by shooting the plane down. That's more along the lines of what I meant.
 
2014-03-12 10:56:50 PM  

grumpfuff: Fair enough, but it's not like China really had anything to gain by shooting the plane down. That's more along the lines of what I meant.


Maybe they found out the truth about the Chemtrail tanks on the aircraft? Did you ever think of th[++++CARRIER LOST++++]
 
2014-03-12 10:57:57 PM  

sanriosucks: Yeah, but they also believe that MSG is good for you, so...


Hey!  The Michael Schenker Group had some great rock albums in the 1980's.
They were good for me, maybe you just need better taste in music.
 
2014-03-12 11:01:05 PM  

Flint Ironstag: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Last line of article: "What is a transponder?"

Maybe you should have looked that up before you started writing an article about a missing airplane, CNN.

That's a link to a page that explains what a transponder is....


Yes, I know.
 
2014-03-12 11:01:55 PM  

gweilo8888: lifeboat: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

The tail wingspan is about 71', so it's possible that's what they're looking at - tail wingspan and rear fuselage.

Realistically, I think not. While the size is feasible, a part of that size still being floating well over 24 hours later when they made the satellite pass is not. And while the sea in that area is quite shallow, it's not shallow enough to see man-made objects sitting on the bottom with standard photography.


As I recall from high school physics, objects submerged in water appear larger than they are, like a magnifying glass.
/Which is why I keep my penis wet.
 
2014-03-12 11:14:44 PM  

Anayalator: uncleacid: I once pinged a black box.

/rimshot
//rimshot?


///*finger pointing like a douchebag while yelling: "THIS GUY!"*
 
2014-03-12 11:16:00 PM  

uncleacid: I once pinged a black box.


did you ever go back?
 
2014-03-12 11:17:58 PM  

The_Hound: Right. totally legit.

/nevermind the insignia is completely wrong


So all of the passengers are in purgatory?

//Know it wasn't purgatory until the later, shiatty seasons.
 
2014-03-12 11:29:30 PM  

skinink: I'm just waiting for the news that one of the people on the plane was traveling using the stolen passport of Amelia Earhart.


WTF does she have to do with any of this?

Everyone knows she was killed by the Nazis after her father gave her a drum kit for her birthday.
 
2014-03-12 11:42:39 PM  
I may be repeating myself, but Im ok with outsourcing plane crashes to China.
 
2014-03-12 11:49:23 PM  

mr intrepid: That being said, I hope they get some answers soon, for the families sake.


Sake is Japanese, not Chinese.
 
2014-03-12 11:53:35 PM  

Harbinger of the Doomed Rat: mr intrepid: That being said, I hope they get some answers soon, for the families sake.

Sake is Japanese, not Chinese.


Rimshot.
 
2014-03-12 11:55:01 PM  
"We ain't found shiat!"

jeffryhesse.com
 
2014-03-12 11:56:43 PM  

Teufelaffe: "This is not the end. This is not the beginning of the end. It is the end of the beginning



I'd time quake her, if you know what I mean.
 
2014-03-13 12:17:45 AM  
Since it was a CNN report, I find it very suspicious that they didn't mention how many times the speed of light the plane was doing.  That could cause it to get blow'd up.  Get blow'd up real good.
 
2014-03-13 12:23:06 AM  

LasersHurt: guywhore: ISO15693: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

A part with both a body section and a wing section.

The sections are square in shape. That plane can't produce a 79'x72' square piece of wreckage

Where the hell do you get the idea that they are "square"? Because two dimensions were given?


Two evacuation slide-rafts tied together.

www.aeromaintenancegroup.com
 
2014-03-13 12:50:22 AM  
 
2014-03-13 12:56:33 AM  

Triumph: Calling it a bust.


That's not really calling it a bust, they're just saying they can't confirm it is.

Granted, that's assuming Google Translate translated it accurately, which I do have my doubts about sometimes.
 
2014-03-13 01:01:47 AM  

guywhore: ISO15693: guywhore: ISO15693: guywhore: What part of a 777 would produce a piece of wreckage 79x72?

A part with both a body section and a wing section.

The sections are square in shape. That plane can't produce a 79'x72' square piece of wreckage

Square?

Do you people even read the articles. Yes square.


a square has four equal sides guywhore so by definition 79' by 72' is NOT square
 
2014-03-13 01:16:42 AM  
Gets stranger: http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/SB100014240527023049149045794 34653903086282-lMyQjAxMTA0MDEwMzExNDMyWj

Data from the engines suggests it flew on for four hours.
 
2014-03-13 01:19:21 AM  
http://online.wsj.com/home-page

FTFM
 
2014-03-13 01:37:59 AM  

tb tibbles: http://online.wsj.com/home-page

FTFM


Nice job, linking to an article that's subscription-only.
 
2014-03-13 01:45:46 AM  
I checked it and I get the full article. <shrug>
 
2014-03-13 01:46:14 AM  
Nice job, linking to an article that's subscription-only.

I'm not subscribed and saw the article just fine.  Its a direct link from huffington post's now main headline.
 
2014-03-13 01:46:18 AM  

hardinparamedic: That's JUST what the grey communist aliens WANT you to think happened.


img.fark.net

If they'd just given the little grey dudes their stuff back when they asked nicely, this all could have been avoided
 
2014-03-13 01:46:59 AM  

CraicBaby: tb tibbles: http://online.wsj.com/home-page

FTFM

Nice job, linking to an article that's subscription-only.


Found these quotes here:  http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/world/missing-plane-may-ha v e-flown-for-hours-says-report/article5779653.ece :


Quoting two people briefed on details sourced from engine data transmitted from the Boeing 777, the Wall Street Journal reported the plane "stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, ... raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky."

Malaysian officials said the plane lost contact with air traffic control around one hour after taking off from Kuala Lumpur early on Saturday, over the Gulf of Thailand, where search efforts have been, so far, been concentrated.

But the  Wall Street Journal said U.S. counterterrorism officials were now "pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection".

--

So then. This just gets stranger.
 
2014-03-13 01:53:37 AM  
They're officially calling this lead a bust. The mystery continues.
 
2014-03-13 01:58:03 AM  

Polish Hussar: hardinparamedic: That's JUST what the grey communist aliens WANT you to think happened.

[img.fark.net image 400x300]

If they'd just given the little grey dudes their stuff back when they asked nicely, this all could have been avoided


Poor Max. :(
 
2014-03-13 02:00:21 AM  

Pimparoo: They're officially calling this lead a bust. The mystery continues.


no kidding boats and planes searched that area the day those pictures were taken

maybe now everyone can stop believing the prick that produced an email showing he told his boss he watched the plane crash and just happened to list the exact coordinates that the pictures showed

you know the email the one he wrote 5 days AFTER the crash around the time this lead popped up

while some may call the malay incompetent at least the airline does not post this kind of thing until it is confirmed
 
2014-03-13 02:05:23 AM  
Flying at low altitude under radar, here's about how far it could have gone.

www.waynemadsenreport.com
 
2014-03-13 02:10:35 AM  

Triumph: Flying at low altitude under radar, here's about how far it could have gone.

[www.waynemadsenreport.com image 414x281]


This is what I don't get. If the plane crashed, the ELT beacons in them are built to the same standard the black boxes are. Why would there be no ELT signal?
 
2014-03-13 02:22:30 AM  

hardinparamedic: Triumph: Flying at low altitude under radar, here's about how far it could have gone.

[www.waynemadsenreport.com image 414x281]

This is what I don't get. If the plane crashed, the ELT beacons in them are built to the same standard the black boxes are. Why would there be no ELT signal?


Here's a depressing article:

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/missing-jet/emergency-beacons-not-f oo l-proof-when-jets-go-missing-n49216

i.imgur.com i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-13 02:27:45 AM  

hardinparamedic: Triumph: Flying at low altitude under radar, here's about how far it could have gone.

[www.waynemadsenreport.com image 414x281]

This is what I don't get. If the plane crashed, the ELT beacons in them are built to the same standard the black boxes are. Why would there be no ELT signal?


It didn't crash - it was stolen. The transponders were all turned off in flight. Look at the pilot's youtube videos - he's hacking all his appliances. Both pilots were unmarried and unattached and maybe willing to disappear.
 
2014-03-13 02:28:18 AM  
i vaguely remember that the night this happened one of the first aviation experts for this type of plane mentioned the transponders could be turned off/disabled from the cockpit so best thing is to wait until something is in hand before people starting screaming we found it

if people follow the press releases they would have read that the airline is requesting for the sake of the people they are trying to find let them concentrate on the search efforts instead of having to spend so much time debunking rumors

too many people are already shouting coverup, conspiracy, and incompetence on the part of the governments to realize that the two biggest search teams are multinational buddhist NGO's (where i got the "harsh" statement that the email guy could have gone to the SAR office in person or called the SAR group directly) instead of wasting time like today
 
2014-03-13 02:32:26 AM  

Triumph: hardinparamedic: Triumph: Flying at low altitude under radar, here's about how far it could have gone.

[www.waynemadsenreport.com image 414x281]

This is what I don't get. If the plane crashed, the ELT beacons in them are built to the same standard the black boxes are. Why would there be no ELT signal?

It didn't crash - it was stolen. The transponders were all turned off in flight. Look at the pilot's youtube videos - he's hacking all his appliances. Both pilots were unmarried and unattached and maybe willing to disappear.


and the pilot supposedly had his own flight simulator at home

no  matter how disgusting it may be it is still a strong possibility the plane was stolen/hijacked but we wont know until they find something
 
2014-03-13 02:44:04 AM  

ummhima2: Triumph: hardinparamedic: Triumph: Flying at low altitude under radar, here's about how far it could have gone.

[www.waynemadsenreport.com image 414x281]

This is what I don't get. If the plane crashed, the ELT beacons in them are built to the same standard the black boxes are. Why would there be no ELT signal?

It didn't crash - it was stolen. The transponders were all turned off in flight. Look at the pilot's youtube videos - he's hacking all his appliances. Both pilots were unmarried and unattached and maybe willing to disappear.

and the pilot supposedly had his own flight simulator at home

no  matter how disgusting it may be it is still a strong possibility the plane was stolen/hijacked but we wont know until they find something


Marty's wife hijacked it right?

The plane crashed. That is all.
 
2014-03-13 04:30:17 AM  

moto-geek: Since they shot it down I'm pretty sure they have a good idea where to find the wreckage.


China doesn't have a history of shooting down passenger airliners. The US does though.
 
2014-03-13 04:41:21 AM  

Gyrfalcon: lindalouwho: Old Man Winter: China just wants attention.

Most of the people on that plane are, alive or dead, Chinese.

At this point, they're mostly dead.


Yeah, I know. I'm way too optimistic.

I was going to write you a funny "what if", but when I saw SumoJeb's post below yours - I couldn't compete.

/mobile, can't snip n add
 
2014-03-13 04:41:29 AM  

GORDON: Wessoman:
What's funny will be seeing how the American right-wing echochamber will spin this development as being Obama's fault somehow.

That's the first I've seen of that sort of thing.  Tell us more about what those right wingers are going to do.


Forget it GORDON, it's politicotown.
 
2014-03-13 04:45:37 AM  

kg2095: China doesn't have a history of shooting down passenger airliners. The US does though.


Yeah, but they were Iranian. I mean, come on. Barely even human. It was like putting a plane load of lab mice down.*


*sarcasm.
 
2014-03-13 05:02:37 AM  

Triumph: hardinparamedic: Triumph: Flying at low altitude under radar, here's about how far it could have gone.

[www.waynemadsenreport.com image 414x281]

This is what I don't get. If the plane crashed, the ELT beacons in them are built to the same standard the black boxes are. Why would there be no ELT signal?

It didn't crash - it was stolen. The transponders were all turned off in flight. Look at the pilot's youtube videos - he's hacking all his appliances. Both pilots were unmarried and unattached and maybe willing to disappear.


And you know this for sure how?


You don't. It crashed. They'll eventually find the wreckage and you'll move on to the next thrilling fake conspiracy.
 
2014-03-13 05:30:24 AM  

TommyDeuce: gweilo8888: while the sea in that area is quite shallow, it's not shallow enough to see man-made objects sitting on the bottom with standard photography.

It may not be all that deep there, and something fairly big and white would show up to a pretty good depth - depending on sea state.  Probably not much for visible pollution that far from shore.


Wow, way to rebut me by just saying "Nuh uh!"

rkiller1: As I recall from high school physics, objects submerged in water appear larger than they are, like a magnifying glass.
/Which is why I keep my penis wet.


What you did there, I see it... just barely. ;-)
 
2014-03-13 06:38:12 AM  

Honest Bender: Time to figure out where we'll bury the survivors.



One thing's for sure..... those two dudes with the stolen passports will never be landed immigrants.
 
2014-03-13 06:42:30 AM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: China planted some debris, took a lousy spy sat. picture of just so they can see how hig-res of an image the U.S. can produce.  They just want info on our spying capabilities.


...or it could be the pain killers talking



IF they had actually found it in the satellite pic the first day, then they've had 3 days to send their own damn plane/boat out to confirm and/or collect debris. That way they could have said 'hey, look what our technology can do..... we saw it and got to it first.'.
 
2014-03-13 07:01:30 AM  

Outlaw2097: if the chinese are wrong...then this is disorienting...



I sea what you did there.....
 
2014-03-13 07:33:08 AM  
Have those idiots even checked ebay yet? Sheesh, Must NAME do everything???

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JC-Wings-1-200-Boeing-777-2H6-ER-Malaysia- Ev eedom-of-space-9M-MRD-/151251185987?pt=UK_ToysGames_ModelKits_ModelKit s_JN&hash=item233745f143

there is is, parked in some sort of (presumably radio shielded) warehouse. Price is presumably in millions. I wonder how much extra is the delivery charge... That's where they usually sting you - it's positively criminal!
 
2014-03-13 08:16:53 AM  

kg2095: moto-geek: Since they shot it down I'm pretty sure they have a good idea where to find the wreckage.

China doesn't have a history of shooting down passenger airliners. The US does though.


You really think a military that has run over its own unarmed university students with tanks couldn't/wouldn't shoot down an airliner if they felt like it?
 
2014-03-13 08:43:01 AM  

Brasil: kg2095: moto-geek: Since they shot it down I'm pretty sure they have a good idea where to find the wreckage.

China doesn't have a history of shooting down passenger airliners. The US does though.

You really think a military that has run over its own unarmed university students with tanks couldn't/wouldn't shoot down an airliner if they felt like it?


Give a plausible answer to one simple question, and perhaps people will consider it.

Why?
 
2014-03-13 09:15:04 AM  

ummhima2: Triumph: hardinparamedic: Triumph: Flying at low altitude under radar, here's about how far it could have gone.

[www.waynemadsenreport.com image 414x281]

This is what I don't get. If the plane crashed, the ELT beacons in them are built to the same standard the black boxes are. Why would there be no ELT signal?

It didn't crash - it was stolen. The transponders were all turned off in flight. Look at the pilot's youtube videos - he's hacking all his appliances. Both pilots were unmarried and unattached and maybe willing to disappear.

and the pilot supposedly had his own flight simulator at home

no  matter how disgusting it may be it is still a strong possibility the plane was stolen/hijacked but we wont know until they find something


This is VERY common
 
2014-03-13 09:34:06 AM  

Strik3r: ummhima2: Triumph: hardinparamedic: Triumph: Flying at low altitude under radar, here's about how far it could have gone.

[www.waynemadsenreport.com image 414x281]

This is what I don't get. If the plane crashed, the ELT beacons in them are built to the same standard the black boxes are. Why would there be no ELT signal?

It didn't crash - it was stolen. The transponders were all turned off in flight. Look at the pilot's youtube videos - he's hacking all his appliances. Both pilots were unmarried and unattached and maybe willing to disappear.

and the pilot supposedly had his own flight simulator at home

no  matter how disgusting it may be it is still a strong possibility the plane was stolen/hijacked but we wont know until they find something

This is VERY common


Wait wait wait. You're telling me pilots enjoy flight simulators? Next thing you'll try to tell us is football players play football video games! HA!
 
2014-03-13 10:08:52 AM  

Strik3r: ummhima2: Triumph: hardinparamedic: Triumph: Flying at low altitude under radar, here's about how far it could have gone.

[www.waynemadsenreport.com image 414x281]

This is what I don't get. If the plane crashed, the ELT beacons in them are built to the same standard the black boxes are. Why would there be no ELT signal?

It didn't crash - it was stolen. The transponders were all turned off in flight. Look at the pilot's youtube videos - he's hacking all his appliances. Both pilots were unmarried and unattached and maybe willing to disappear.

and the pilot supposedly had his own flight simulator at home

no  matter how disgusting it may be it is still a strong possibility the plane was stolen/hijacked but we wont know until they find something

This is VERY common


That's just ridiculous. Do you think Michael Jordan has a basketball hoop at his house? Of course not. Who practices their job for fun?
 
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