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(Boston.com)   Mysterious disappearance of Malaysian airline gets slightly less mysterious as worker on an oil rig platform of the coast of Vietnam sends an e-mail to his bosses saying he saw a flaming jetliner plunge into the sea   (boston.com) divider line 62
    More: Interesting, Malaysia, Vietnam, Malaysia Airlines, jetliner, DigitalGlobe, Judy Woodruff, South China Sea, Gulf of Thailand  
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2014-03-12 12:53:58 PM  
18 votes:

vpb: It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.


Seems like it ought to take about 15 minutes for a competent news agency to at least confirm that:

- There is an oil rig in that location.
- Some guy named Mike McKay works there.

Unfortunately, finding a competent news agency is going to be harder than finding that damn plane.
2014-03-12 12:08:08 PM  
6 votes:
How hard is it to plot the coordinates that are right there in the email on a Google Map and post a screenshot in the article?

Here, let me google map that for you:
i.imgur.com
2014-03-12 01:51:20 PM  
5 votes:

gaslight: Well, a plane breaking apart at tens of thousands of feet in the sky, travelling at hundreds of miles per hour would result in confetti. The forces at work on the aluminum, steel, carbon fibre and plastic would likely spread the débris over a large area and in many small pieces. It may well be that the area was searched before but the pieces were too small to have been spotted from the air.

Anyone remember how a fuel tank spark destroyed a plane flying from New York to Paris a few years ago? It may have been as "simple" as that.


Many large pieces made it to the sea more or less intact. Similarly the shuttle was traveling at 17,000 MPH and reentering the atmosphere when it left many large and heavy pieces intact to hit Texas. Something made it down, something is floating. Carry on the mystery.
2014-03-12 01:56:50 PM  
4 votes:

gaslight: Well, a plane breaking apart at tens of thousands of feet in the sky, travelling at hundreds of miles per hour would result in confetti.


richstokoe.com
2014-03-12 12:38:16 PM  
4 votes:

nekom: and nowhere near on course.


Actually, I take that one back.  From the distance he described it at it's relatively close to where it should have been.

Also, talk about a thorough witness report!  The guy appeared to know his stuff and included everything he could think of that might possibly be relevant to the investigation.
2014-03-12 03:06:59 PM  
3 votes:

Danger Mouse: Bf+: vpb: It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.

Disappearing an entire plane?  Now that's some hoax!
Waaaaiiiiit a minute... Where's David Copperfield during all this?


On his private island raping a plane full of asian chicks.


Why would he rape the plane, when he could just rape the asian chicks?
2014-03-12 02:39:15 PM  
3 votes:

rynthetyn: My sister's aviation engineer inlaw seems to think that Boeing and the airline have a better idea of what's what than they're saying but that they aren't wanting to admit that they know because if they do their stock prices are going to plummet faster than the plane did.


The 777 has an enviable safety record. I would be really shocked if Boeing were trying to cover something up. The resulting fallout would be far greater than simply stating what happened and what is being done to prevent it from happening again.
2014-03-12 02:10:43 PM  
3 votes:
farm4.static.flickr.com
2014-03-12 02:10:22 PM  
3 votes:
Bob Woodruff @BobWoodruff 5h
.@ABC spoke with Richard Beaton w/Japanese Idemitsu Oil & Gas Co who hired Songa Mercur to drill & confirms email of Michael Mckay is real

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Looks like it being a hoax just got a lot less likely.

From his twitter page:

https://twitter.com/BobWoodruff
2014-03-12 01:51:07 PM  
3 votes:
I like how "investigative journalists" now just tweet a picture with a "could be a hoax, how am I supposed to know?" note and walk away.
2014-03-12 01:46:32 PM  
3 votes:
A hotmail address to a gmail address? It's an oil company. They can't afford company email addresses?

Fake
2014-03-12 01:40:18 PM  
3 votes:

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Angela Lansbury's Merkin: /I think we can all agree that the whole response by Malaysia has been a cluster fark though.

The fact that you can fly a commercial airliner across the country without detection as to be fairly embarrassing to their military.


Yep, and they can't even get that story straight.  First they said they tracked it heading west.  Then they came out and said they never said that.  And then later said well maybe we saw something on our radar, but we can't confirm if it was the missing plane or a different plane.

Real great air security there.  And we're what, nearly 5 days from it going missing and they still haven't figured out what they saw?  The government has also said they'd accept help from shamens in finding the plane, provided the 'magic' used doesn't conflict with Islam.  Magic?

I know if I'm going to invade a country via air attack, it will be Malaysia.  I'll have taken over the government and changed the official language to Esperanto long before the military figures out they've been attacked.
2014-03-12 01:33:54 PM  
3 votes:

brap: People try to gain fame by hoax-reporting flaming airlines crashing into the sea? What sort of vile pond scum would do that?


Homo sapiens sapiens
2014-03-12 01:30:58 PM  
3 votes:
Should Navy SOSUS have heard this splash?

Is that sort of intelligence analyzed in real time?
2014-03-12 01:30:56 PM  
3 votes:

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: /I think we can all agree that the whole response by Malaysia has been a cluster fark though.


The fact that you can fly a commercial airliner across the country without detection as to be fairly embarrassing to their military.
2014-03-12 12:23:21 PM  
3 votes:

joshiz: How hard is it to plot the coordinates that are right there in the email on a Google Map and post a screenshot in the article?

Here, let me google map that for you:
[i.imgur.com image 850x528]


That's... awfully close to the Spratly Islands. You know, the islands China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia and the Philippines all claim.
2014-03-12 04:02:17 PM  
2 votes:
My pet theory

1 - something happened that disabled communications
2 - plane either glided into the water relatively intact or fell apart, raining debris  - either way it sunk
3 - like most mysteries, we will collectively chew on this until it is (and it will be) found - some of us will chew on it like tinfoil forever, refusing to believe anything but alien/government f**kery
4 - some time, generally within two years, will pass
5 - the evidence will show an unusual conflux of events that will lead authorities to label it "pilot error"

I truly hope whatever it was was mercifully brief and that FSM took these people up in a great and comforting slotted spoon to a place where the TSA is verbotin and everyone has access to flyer's clubs
2014-03-12 03:51:13 PM  
2 votes:

SurfaceTension: abhorrent1: A hotmail address to a gmail address? It's an oil company. They can't afford company email addresses?



Seems to me like it would be inappropriate for someone to send a personal email (like a description of a burning plane, which has nothing to do with work) to Vietnamese authorities on a work email address.
2014-03-12 03:32:13 PM  
2 votes:
I've finally settled on my conspiracy theory;
With all the disputed island chains in the general area(the spratly's are a little far but there are others that are a bit closer)Imma gonna say one of the disputees; China, Japan, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Myanmar, India made an oopsie. All those countries are out there waving there navy dicks at each other saying "this is our hunk of rock in the middle of a natural gas field", with that many playas it's only a matter of time before someone gets jittery. So you have an airliner with a faulty/malfunctioning/disabled transponder that identifies it as a commercial jet flying into the region as an unidentified aircraft. Someone in it's flight path could of got nervous and launched  a missile. If the transponder was malfunctioning and it happened right at the time of transferring atc from malaysia to ho chi minh city it's conceivable that it just got unaccounted for. The unknown countries ship that shot it down is obviously first on the scene, sees the boo boo and scoops up any big debris in the immediate area, if the plane went down mostly intact and sank quickly there may have been very little debris to begin with. Now that ship is whistling as if nothing happened and is "assisting" in the search.
/That's my story.
2014-03-12 02:07:59 PM  
2 votes:
The Langoliers finally caught up to them.
2014-03-12 01:43:53 PM  
2 votes:
I'd say with that level of detail it is more likely a hoax than not.
2014-03-12 01:41:24 PM  
2 votes:
Well, a plane breaking apart at tens of thousands of feet in the sky, travelling at hundreds of miles per hour would result in confetti. The forces at work on the aluminum, steel, carbon fibre and plastic would likely spread the débris over a large area and in many small pieces. It may well be that the area was searched before but the pieces were too small to have been spotted from the air.

Anyone remember how a fuel tank spark destroyed a plane flying from New York to Paris a few years ago? It may have been as "simple" as that.
2014-03-12 01:31:15 PM  
2 votes:
The plane had lost power in all three engines, dropped from thirty-four thousand feet to twelve thousand feet. Something like four miles. When the steep glide began, people rose, fell, collided, swam in their seats. Then the serious screaming and moaning began. Almost immediately a voice from the flight deck was heard on the intercom: "We're falling out of the sky! We're going down! We're a silver gleaming death machine!" This outburst struck the passengers as an all but total breakdown of authority, competence and command presence and it brought on a round of fresh and desperate wailing.
2014-03-12 01:27:51 PM  
2 votes:
Well, the guy could be wrong, but hey, there are dozens of ships and planes combing the sea for the wreckage. What's the harm in sending one over to that area for a looksie?
2014-03-12 01:18:52 PM  
2 votes:

Eddie Adams from Torrance: vpb: It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.

Seems like it ought to take about 15 minutes for a competent news agency to at least confirm that:

- There is an oil rig in that location.
- Some guy named Mike McKay works there.

Unfortunately, finding a competent news agency is going to be harder than finding that damn plane.


According to another forum, a poster says that BBC television said they contacted the oil company and they claim to have no employee by that name.  I see nothing like that on their website, and don't have access to BBC TV, so can't confirm. But the idea that it is a hoax should not be ruled out.

/I think we can all agree that the whole response by Malaysia has been a cluster fark though.
2014-03-12 12:50:47 PM  
2 votes:

vpb: It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.


If it is a hoax (and it well could be) it was very well executed.  Everything seems to add up, at least at first glance.
2014-03-12 11:46:42 AM  
2 votes:
People try to gain fame by hoax-reporting flaming airlines crashing into the sea?  What sort of vile pond scum would do that?  Is this some sort of dick enlargement metaphor?
2014-03-12 06:38:19 PM  
1 votes:

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: Yeah, China has released satellite images taken on Sunday of 3 large objects in the water off the coast of Vietnam.


I hope those are correct and the wreckage found and the families of these people can start having closure.
2014-03-12 05:32:44 PM  
1 votes:

WelldeadLink: gaslight: Well, a plane breaking apart at tens of thousands of feet in the sky, travelling at hundreds of miles per hour would result in confetti.

[richstokoe.com image 674x419]


That pilot was mighty fond of living.
2014-03-12 05:22:56 PM  
1 votes:

PreMortem: Why would aliens stage a catastrophy? No good reason.


img.fark.net

Nah, man, they just wanted their stuff back.  The midair recovery would have gone off without a hitch if the US military hadn't shot down the UFO that had the plane in it's tractor beam.
2014-03-12 04:49:16 PM  
1 votes:

brap: People try to gain fame by hoax-reporting flaming airlines crashing into the sea?  What sort of vile pond scum would do that?  Is this some sort of dick enlargement metaphor?


rogueoperator.files.wordpress.com
2014-03-12 04:32:19 PM  
1 votes:

calbert: /That's my story.

lay off the caffeine, take your time, preview before posting.


Ok, thanks for the sound advice. I still stand by my conspiracy regardless of feverish caffeine fueled rambling or typos.
/Did I post too late in the thread for Fark FAA experts and retired Rear Admirals to pick apart my theory?
2014-03-12 03:10:29 PM  
1 votes:

exvaxman: According to an "Air Safety Official" on NPR there was a service note put out that there were cracks found in another 777 around the antenna array. The airline in question had the aircraft serviced recently, but also said (somewhere) that more service was required. Her supposition was that the cracks caused a decompression failure, taking off the antennas. She followed up stating that the aircraft automatically goes into a survival mode, automatically shutting down every system but flight controls. Seems odd to me to turn off transponders and radio equipment, but I didn't have a hand in the "survival mode".


I'm not sure there is a single commercial airline model that doesn't have a fistful of service notes.
2014-03-12 03:07:20 PM  
1 votes:

SDRR: Benevolent Misanthrope: It could be a hoax, yes, Bob, you magnificent expert on all things.  Or not.  So send a goddamn plane out to the coordinates he described, adjusted for currents, and see what you see.

Seriously - who do they have looking for this thing?  Mr. Magoo?

[img.fark.net image 225x225]


Oh, yes. It is obvious to my trained eye, that there is much more going on here than meets the ear.
2014-03-12 03:02:16 PM  
1 votes:

rynthetyn: jaytkay: rynthetyn: I have in my address book several Vietnamese government employees who are using hotmail or yahoo accounts for work email, so it's not that big a stretch that employees of a Vietnamese oil company might do the same.

I have corresponded with a prince and several former government officials from Nigeria who use Hotmail.

 These are people I know in real life.


I know, but the setup for the joke could not be resisted
2014-03-12 02:50:52 PM  
1 votes:

rynthetyn: My sister's aviation engineer inlaw seems to think that


My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw the missing jet pass over 31 Flavors last night in flames. I guess it's pretty serious.
2014-03-12 02:45:47 PM  
1 votes:
or there's this Spoiler Alert...

barnaclebutt.files.wordpress.com

They're all dead.
2014-03-12 02:45:43 PM  
1 votes:

rynthetyn: My sister's aviation engineer inlaw seems to think that Boeing and the airline have a better idea of what's what than they're saying but that they aren't wanting to admit that they know because if they do their stock prices are going to plummet faster than the plane did.


Your sister's inlaw is a conspiracy theory nutjob, and probably not a very good aviation engineer.....
2014-03-12 02:44:58 PM  
1 votes:
I blame Mugato.

media.giphy.com
2014-03-12 02:43:26 PM  
1 votes:
Buoyancy be damned, I am thinking AirPort 77 is the answer to this mystery.

www.jimusnr.com
2014-03-12 02:40:54 PM  
1 votes:
Whatchoo Talkinbout:

Many large pieces made it to the sea more or less intact. Similarly the shuttle was traveling at 17,000 MPH and reentering the atmosphere when it left many large and heavy pieces intact to hit Texas. Something made it down, something is floating. Carry on the mystery.

18 times the speed of light!
sprott.physics.wisc.edu
2014-03-12 02:20:21 PM  
1 votes:

brap: People try to gain fame by hoax-reporting flaming airlines crashing into the sea?  What sort of vile pond scum would do that?  Is this some sort of dick enlargement metaphor?


Magorn: nekom: vpb: It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.

If it is a hoax (and it well could be) it was very well executed.  Everything seems to add up, at least at first glance.

The company has confirmed the email is genuine, but apparently the area described has been searched
without success so far



Even if its reported, doesn't mean its automatically for real:


i.cdn.turner.com
2014-03-12 02:19:29 PM  
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: It could be a hoax, yes, Bob, you magnificent expert on all things.  Or not.  So send a goddamn plane out to the coordinates he described, adjusted for currents, and see what you see.

Seriously - who do they have looking for this thing?  Mr. Magoo?


You find it

www.dailygalaxy.com
2014-03-12 02:10:31 PM  
1 votes:

rynthetyn: I have in my address book several Vietnamese government employees who are using hotmail or yahoo accounts for work email, so it's not that big a stretch that employees of a Vietnamese oil company might do the same.


I have corresponded with a prince and several former government officials from Nigeria who use Hotmail.
2014-03-12 02:07:07 PM  
1 votes:
That link to search through sat images to try and help find it is pretty cool.
2014-03-12 02:05:10 PM  
1 votes:

Benevolent Misanthrope: It could be a hoax, yes, Bob, you magnificent expert on all things.  Or not.  So send a goddamn plane out to the coordinates he described, adjusted for currents, and see what you see.

Seriously - who do they have looking for this thing?  Mr. Magoo?


Well, reporters have to be extra cautious when information hasn't been verified. I mean, nobody wants another situation like Election Night 2000.
2014-03-12 02:03:41 PM  
1 votes:

WelldeadLink: gaslight: Well, a plane breaking apart at tens of thousands of feet in the sky, travelling at hundreds of miles per hour would result in confetti.

[richstokoe.com image 674x419]


There is no reason on Gods green earf that plane should have landed intact.  It's as close to a miracle as I've ever seen.
2014-03-12 02:02:54 PM  
1 votes:

geoduck42: abhorrent1: A hotmail address to a gmail address? It's an oil company. They can't afford company email addresses?

Fake

I could totally believe a company would cheap it up by having their employees (at least the peons) use free email. Still doesn't mean it's legit, of course.


I have in my address book several Vietnamese government employees who are using hotmail or yahoo accounts for work email, so it's not that big a stretch that employees of a Vietnamese oil company might do the same. Not that this means it's real, but it is at least believable.
2014-03-12 01:59:07 PM  
1 votes:

ZzeusS: Paris1127: joshiz: How hard is it to plot the coordinates that are right there in the email on a Google Map and post a screenshot in the article?

Here, let me google map that for you:
[i.imgur.com image 850x528]

That's... awfully close to the Spratly Islands. You know, the islands China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia and the Philippines all claim.

If the Chinese shot it down, that's going to be your WW3 right there.  Not this Russian business.

Although it was mostly their own people, so it could be a wash.

Now if someone else shot it down...


Like the rumor that it was hijacked by the co-pilot, and the Malaysian military has known where it is all along because  they shot it down?
2014-03-12 01:54:25 PM  
1 votes:
www.netanimations.net
2014-03-12 01:53:39 PM  
1 votes:

abhorrent1: A hotmail address to a gmail address? It's an oil company. They can't afford company email addresses?

Fake


I could totally believe a company would cheap it up by having their employees (at least the peons) use free email. Still doesn't mean it's legit, of course.
2014-03-12 01:53:14 PM  
1 votes:
2014-03-12 01:48:33 PM  
1 votes:
Hope it's good information. Then again, I wouldn't exactly suggest using camera-phone pictures of Gmail printouts as evidence in court.
2014-03-12 01:46:53 PM  
1 votes:
My sister's aviation engineer inlaw seems to think that Boeing and the airline have a better idea of what's what than they're saying but that they aren't wanting to admit that they know because if they do their stock prices are going to plummet faster than the plane did.
2014-03-12 01:46:42 PM  
1 votes:

BigNumber12: brap: People try to gain fame by hoax-reporting flaming airlines crashing into the sea? What sort of vile pond scum would do that?

Homo sapiens sapiens


You must really like sapiens.
2014-03-12 01:43:58 PM  
1 votes:
There is no mystery the plane simply disappeared.
2014-03-12 01:33:00 PM  
1 votes:
media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com

What a flaming airplane may look like..
2014-03-12 01:31:45 PM  
1 votes:
Baba Booey.
2014-03-12 01:30:59 PM  
1 votes:
Don't jump to conclusions. Maybe it was a different plane on fire.
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-03-12 12:46:42 PM  
1 votes:
It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.
2014-03-12 12:13:50 PM  
1 votes:

joshiz: How hard is it to plot the coordinates that are right there in the email on a Google Map and post a screenshot in the article?


Anyone know the coordinates of the location that the Malaysians claim the plane made its U-turn?
2014-03-12 11:59:29 AM  
1 votes:
Seems too detailed to be a hoax, but IANA...debunker?  And reported like that--to company officials, rather than directly to the Sun or Daily Fail??

/I'm thinking it the first solid lead they've had...
 
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