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(Boston.com)   Mysterious disappearance of Malaysian airline gets slightly less mysterious as worker on an oil rig platform of the coast of Vietnam sends an e-mail to his bosses saying he saw a flaming jetliner plunge into the sea   (boston.com) divider line 206
    More: Interesting, Malaysia, Vietnam, Malaysia Airlines, jetliner, DigitalGlobe, Judy Woodruff, South China Sea, Gulf of Thailand  
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2014-03-12 11:46:42 AM  
People try to gain fame by hoax-reporting flaming airlines crashing into the sea?  What sort of vile pond scum would do that?  Is this some sort of dick enlargement metaphor?
 
2014-03-12 11:59:29 AM  
Seems too detailed to be a hoax, but IANA...debunker?  And reported like that--to company officials, rather than directly to the Sun or Daily Fail??

/I'm thinking it the first solid lead they've had...
 
2014-03-12 11:59:54 AM  
It could be a hoax, yes, Bob, you magnificent expert on all things.  Or not.  So send a goddamn plane out to the coordinates he described, adjusted for currents, and see what you see.

Seriously - who do they have looking for this thing?  Mr. Magoo?
 
2014-03-12 12:08:08 PM  
How hard is it to plot the coordinates that are right there in the email on a Google Map and post a screenshot in the article?

Here, let me google map that for you:
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-12 12:13:50 PM  

joshiz: How hard is it to plot the coordinates that are right there in the email on a Google Map and post a screenshot in the article?


Anyone know the coordinates of the location that the Malaysians claim the plane made its U-turn?
 
2014-03-12 12:23:21 PM  

joshiz: How hard is it to plot the coordinates that are right there in the email on a Google Map and post a screenshot in the article?

Here, let me google map that for you:
[i.imgur.com image 850x528]


That's... awfully close to the Spratly Islands. You know, the islands China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia and the Philippines all claim.
 
2014-03-12 12:25:55 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: joshiz: How hard is it to plot the coordinates that are right there in the email on a Google Map and post a screenshot in the article?

Anyone know the coordinates of the location that the Malaysians claim the plane made its U-turn?


About 400 miles eastnortheast of the site where they lost the transponder.  That's a good hour flying time, and nowhere near on course.  Awfully lot of time to go by without a distress call.
 
2014-03-12 12:38:16 PM  

nekom: and nowhere near on course.


Actually, I take that one back.  From the distance he described it at it's relatively close to where it should have been.

Also, talk about a thorough witness report!  The guy appeared to know his stuff and included everything he could think of that might possibly be relevant to the investigation.
 
2014-03-12 12:39:30 PM  
biatch you lie.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-03-12 12:46:42 PM  
It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.
 
2014-03-12 12:50:47 PM  

vpb: It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.


If it is a hoax (and it well could be) it was very well executed.  Everything seems to add up, at least at first glance.
 
2014-03-12 12:53:58 PM  

vpb: It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.


Seems like it ought to take about 15 minutes for a competent news agency to at least confirm that:

- There is an oil rig in that location.
- Some guy named Mike McKay works there.

Unfortunately, finding a competent news agency is going to be harder than finding that damn plane.
 
2014-03-12 12:54:37 PM  

nekom: vpb: It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.

If it is a hoax (and it well could be) it was very well executed.  Everything seems to add up, at least at first glance.


The company has confirmed the email is genuine, but apparently the area described has been searchd without sucess so far
 
2014-03-12 12:56:12 PM  
i00.i.aliimg.com
 
2014-03-12 01:18:52 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: vpb: It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.

Seems like it ought to take about 15 minutes for a competent news agency to at least confirm that:

- There is an oil rig in that location.
- Some guy named Mike McKay works there.

Unfortunately, finding a competent news agency is going to be harder than finding that damn plane.


According to another forum, a poster says that BBC television said they contacted the oil company and they claim to have no employee by that name.  I see nothing like that on their website, and don't have access to BBC TV, so can't confirm. But the idea that it is a hoax should not be ruled out.

/I think we can all agree that the whole response by Malaysia has been a cluster fark though.
 
2014-03-12 01:27:51 PM  
Well, the guy could be wrong, but hey, there are dozens of ships and planes combing the sea for the wreckage. What's the harm in sending one over to that area for a looksie?
 
2014-03-12 01:30:22 PM  
It's the Malaysian Calendar predicts the end of the world! Fiery objects flying and falling from the sky!.........
 
2014-03-12 01:30:56 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: /I think we can all agree that the whole response by Malaysia has been a cluster fark though.


The fact that you can fly a commercial airliner across the country without detection as to be fairly embarrassing to their military.
 
2014-03-12 01:30:58 PM  
Should Navy SOSUS have heard this splash?

Is that sort of intelligence analyzed in real time?
 
2014-03-12 01:30:59 PM  
Don't jump to conclusions. Maybe it was a different plane on fire.
 
2014-03-12 01:31:15 PM  
The plane had lost power in all three engines, dropped from thirty-four thousand feet to twelve thousand feet. Something like four miles. When the steep glide began, people rose, fell, collided, swam in their seats. Then the serious screaming and moaning began. Almost immediately a voice from the flight deck was heard on the intercom: "We're falling out of the sky! We're going down! We're a silver gleaming death machine!" This outburst struck the passengers as an all but total breakdown of authority, competence and command presence and it brought on a round of fresh and desperate wailing.
 
2014-03-12 01:31:45 PM  
Baba Booey.
 
2014-03-12 01:32:35 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: vpb: It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.

Seems like it ought to take about 15 minutes for a competent news agency to at least confirm that:

- There is an oil rig in that location.
- Some guy named Mike McKay works there.


Maybe it was "Freeze Lightening".
 
2014-03-12 01:33:00 PM  
media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com

What a flaming airplane may look like..
 
2014-03-12 01:33:54 PM  

brap: People try to gain fame by hoax-reporting flaming airlines crashing into the sea? What sort of vile pond scum would do that?


Homo sapiens sapiens
 
2014-03-12 01:34:42 PM  
This photo just in, from moments before the crash:

i.ytimg.com
 
2014-03-12 01:36:16 PM  
Why would aliens stage a catastrophy? No good reason.
 
Bf+
2014-03-12 01:36:18 PM  

vpb: It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.


Disappearing an entire plane?  Now that's some hoax!
Waaaaiiiiit a minute... Where's David Copperfield during all this?
 
2014-03-12 01:38:03 PM  
Youtube video, or it didn't happen.
 
2014-03-12 01:39:07 PM  

RoyBatty: Should Navy SOSUS have heard this splash?

Is that sort of intelligence analyzed in real time?


Surface clutter so no. Also yes, it would be analyzed in real time but again, surface clutter is ignored.

Also, there wouldn't be any American sonar systems in that area that aren't on a ship or boat. It's not magic, it's sonar.
 
2014-03-12 01:40:18 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Angela Lansbury's Merkin: /I think we can all agree that the whole response by Malaysia has been a cluster fark though.

The fact that you can fly a commercial airliner across the country without detection as to be fairly embarrassing to their military.


Yep, and they can't even get that story straight.  First they said they tracked it heading west.  Then they came out and said they never said that.  And then later said well maybe we saw something on our radar, but we can't confirm if it was the missing plane or a different plane.

Real great air security there.  And we're what, nearly 5 days from it going missing and they still haven't figured out what they saw?  The government has also said they'd accept help from shamens in finding the plane, provided the 'magic' used doesn't conflict with Islam.  Magic?

I know if I'm going to invade a country via air attack, it will be Malaysia.  I'll have taken over the government and changed the official language to Esperanto long before the military figures out they've been attacked.
 
2014-03-12 01:41:11 PM  
Thunderball 2, Electric Bugaloo?
 
2014-03-12 01:41:24 PM  
Well, a plane breaking apart at tens of thousands of feet in the sky, travelling at hundreds of miles per hour would result in confetti. The forces at work on the aluminum, steel, carbon fibre and plastic would likely spread the débris over a large area and in many small pieces. It may well be that the area was searched before but the pieces were too small to have been spotted from the air.

Anyone remember how a fuel tank spark destroyed a plane flying from New York to Paris a few years ago? It may have been as "simple" as that.
 
2014-03-12 01:43:53 PM  
I'd say with that level of detail it is more likely a hoax than not.
 
2014-03-12 01:43:58 PM  
There is no mystery the plane simply disappeared.
 
2014-03-12 01:45:11 PM  
"De Plane, De Plane!"
 
2014-03-12 01:46:32 PM  
A hotmail address to a gmail address? It's an oil company. They can't afford company email addresses?

Fake
 
2014-03-12 01:46:42 PM  

BigNumber12: brap: People try to gain fame by hoax-reporting flaming airlines crashing into the sea? What sort of vile pond scum would do that?

Homo sapiens sapiens


You must really like sapiens.
 
2014-03-12 01:46:47 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: RoyBatty: Should Navy SOSUS have heard this splash?

Is that sort of intelligence analyzed in real time?

Surface clutter so no. Also yes, it would be analyzed in real time but again, surface clutter is ignored.

Also, there wouldn't be any American sonar systems in that area that aren't on a ship or boat. It's not magic, it's sonar.


Thanks. I know zip about this, so I assumed that by now, the Navy had ears everywhere, or that like Bloop, they could hear it from 1000s of kilometers away. And I would be surprised to find that near China and Vietnam, the US Navy has no underwater sound surveillance set up, though the wiki suggests that after the cold war, capabilities actually decreased.
 
2014-03-12 01:46:53 PM  
My sister's aviation engineer inlaw seems to think that Boeing and the airline have a better idea of what's what than they're saying but that they aren't wanting to admit that they know because if they do their stock prices are going to plummet faster than the plane did.
 
2014-03-12 01:48:08 PM  

Bf+: vpb: It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.

Disappearing an entire plane?  Now that's some hoax!
Waaaaiiiiit a minute... Where's David Copperfield during all this?



On his private island raping a plane full of asian chicks.
 
2014-03-12 01:48:33 PM  
Hope it's good information. Then again, I wouldn't exactly suggest using camera-phone pictures of Gmail printouts as evidence in court.
 
2014-03-12 01:49:29 PM  
Please don't try to confuse us with the truth.

/it spoils all the fun
 
2014-03-12 01:49:32 PM  

PreMortem: Why would aliens stage a catastrophy? No good reason.


Ruby Thewes can spell better than you.
 
2014-03-12 01:50:33 PM  

Paris1127: joshiz: How hard is it to plot the coordinates that are right there in the email on a Google Map and post a screenshot in the article?

Here, let me google map that for you:
[i.imgur.com image 850x528]

That's... awfully close to the Spratly Islands. You know, the islands China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia and the Philippines all claim.


If the Chinese shot it down, that's going to be your WW3 right there.  Not this Russian business.

Although it was mostly their own people, so it could be a wash.

Now if someone else shot it down...
 
2014-03-12 01:51:07 PM  
I like how "investigative journalists" now just tweet a picture with a "could be a hoax, how am I supposed to know?" note and walk away.
 
2014-03-12 01:51:20 PM  

gaslight: Well, a plane breaking apart at tens of thousands of feet in the sky, travelling at hundreds of miles per hour would result in confetti. The forces at work on the aluminum, steel, carbon fibre and plastic would likely spread the débris over a large area and in many small pieces. It may well be that the area was searched before but the pieces were too small to have been spotted from the air.

Anyone remember how a fuel tank spark destroyed a plane flying from New York to Paris a few years ago? It may have been as "simple" as that.


Many large pieces made it to the sea more or less intact. Similarly the shuttle was traveling at 17,000 MPH and reentering the atmosphere when it left many large and heavy pieces intact to hit Texas. Something made it down, something is floating. Carry on the mystery.
 
2014-03-12 01:51:38 PM  

Hack Patooey: This photo just in, from moments before the crash:

[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]


Holy sweet flyin' fark, what have you built?!?
 
2014-03-12 01:52:35 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: It could be a hoax, yes, Bob, you magnificent expert on all things.  Or not.  So send a goddamn plane out to the coordinates he described, adjusted for currents, and see what you see.

Seriously - who do they have looking for this thing?  Mr. Magoo?


Now it's been days so good luck finding much of anything besides some insulation floating around. This is a strange situation.
 
2014-03-12 01:53:14 PM  
 
2014-03-12 01:53:39 PM  

abhorrent1: A hotmail address to a gmail address? It's an oil company. They can't afford company email addresses?

Fake


I could totally believe a company would cheap it up by having their employees (at least the peons) use free email. Still doesn't mean it's legit, of course.
 
2014-03-12 01:54:25 PM  
www.netanimations.net
 
2014-03-12 01:55:32 PM  

PreMortem: Why would aliens stage a catastrophy? No good reason.


I present for your pleasure:
 
2014-03-12 01:55:42 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-03-12 01:56:50 PM  

gaslight: Well, a plane breaking apart at tens of thousands of feet in the sky, travelling at hundreds of miles per hour would result in confetti.


richstokoe.com
 
2014-03-12 01:57:48 PM  

Whatchoo Talkinbout: gaslight: Well, a plane breaking apart at tens of thousands of feet in the sky, travelling at hundreds of miles per hour would result in confetti. The forces at work on the aluminum, steel, carbon fibre and plastic would likely spread the débris over a large area and in many small pieces. It may well be that the area was searched before but the pieces were too small to have been spotted from the air.

Anyone remember how a fuel tank spark destroyed a plane flying from New York to Paris a few years ago? It may have been as "simple" as that.

Many large pieces made it to the sea more or less intact. Similarly the shuttle was traveling at 17,000 MPH and reentering the atmosphere when it left many large and heavy pieces intact to hit Texas. Something made it down, something is floating. Carry on the mystery.


No doubt. Rocket fuel is going to eat debris way faster than jet fuel on the way down.
There would have to be something floating in the sea.
Unless those fart-sponge seat cushions exploded too.
 
2014-03-12 01:57:57 PM  
I just saw a flying squirrel.
 
2014-03-12 01:58:00 PM  

raatz01: I like how "investigative journalists" now just tweet a picture with a "could be a hoax, how am I supposed to know?" note and walk away.


Journalism used to be a thing that people did to find out facts and stuff.  Now they just google a few key words and add "According to a LinkedIn profile with the suspect's name" to the front of whatever they are saying, so that they are ethically protected in case they got the story completely wrong.


\\ I wish I was making up the LinkedIn line
 
2014-03-12 01:58:14 PM  
Cute girls might be to blame for the missing plane (warning chinese dub over for a few seconds)   http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=131_1394631622
 
2014-03-12 01:58:33 PM  

telejester: PreMortem: Why would aliens stage a catastrophy? No good reason.

Ruby Thewes can spell better than you.


I've conceded my spelling to my phone, which underlines in red any misspelled words. It did not. Your argument is invalid.
 
2014-03-12 01:59:07 PM  

ZzeusS: Paris1127: joshiz: How hard is it to plot the coordinates that are right there in the email on a Google Map and post a screenshot in the article?

Here, let me google map that for you:
[i.imgur.com image 850x528]

That's... awfully close to the Spratly Islands. You know, the islands China, Taiwan, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia and the Philippines all claim.

If the Chinese shot it down, that's going to be your WW3 right there.  Not this Russian business.

Although it was mostly their own people, so it could be a wash.

Now if someone else shot it down...


Like the rumor that it was hijacked by the co-pilot, and the Malaysian military has known where it is all along because  they shot it down?
 
2014-03-12 01:59:23 PM  
cherylrhoads.typepad.com

That was a hoax...right?
 
2014-03-12 02:00:32 PM  
It could have merely been a streetlight.  They have been known to pop and catch fire.
 
2014-03-12 02:02:54 PM  

geoduck42: abhorrent1: A hotmail address to a gmail address? It's an oil company. They can't afford company email addresses?

Fake

I could totally believe a company would cheap it up by having their employees (at least the peons) use free email. Still doesn't mean it's legit, of course.


I have in my address book several Vietnamese government employees who are using hotmail or yahoo accounts for work email, so it's not that big a stretch that employees of a Vietnamese oil company might do the same. Not that this means it's real, but it is at least believable.
 
2014-03-12 02:03:08 PM  

PreMortem: telejester: PreMortem: Why would aliens stage a catastrophy? No good reason.

Ruby Thewes can spell better than you.

I've conceded my spelling to my phone, which underlines in red any misspelled words. It did not. Your argument is invalid.


I beg to differ:

I can spell it, too. Learned it the same place you did, in the school room. One of the first words they taught me. "Ruby Thewes, you are a c-a-t-a-s-t-r-o-p-h-e!"

 
2014-03-12 02:03:14 PM  
As of this morining's news it was stated, "you would be surprised what people think they saw, when there was an outside chance they might have."

In other words, this dude totally didn't see anything and made it up to get his name in the paper.  Which really makes him quite the asshole, if it's true.  It would mean that search resources were chasing a wild goose, thereby delaying the whole procedure.
 
2014-03-12 02:03:41 PM  

WelldeadLink: gaslight: Well, a plane breaking apart at tens of thousands of feet in the sky, travelling at hundreds of miles per hour would result in confetti.

[richstokoe.com image 674x419]


There is no reason on Gods green earf that plane should have landed intact.  It's as close to a miracle as I've ever seen.
 
2014-03-12 02:05:02 PM  
Subject: Weekly update

Dear Boss Guy,

I cleaned out the intake like you wanted. Everything is running smoothly.

Sum Yung Dude

PS: We are almost out of coffee
PPS: I saw a flaming plane crash into the ocean
 
2014-03-12 02:05:10 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: It could be a hoax, yes, Bob, you magnificent expert on all things.  Or not.  So send a goddamn plane out to the coordinates he described, adjusted for currents, and see what you see.

Seriously - who do they have looking for this thing?  Mr. Magoo?


Well, reporters have to be extra cautious when information hasn't been verified. I mean, nobody wants another situation like Election Night 2000.
 
2014-03-12 02:05:59 PM  
CIA Director claims it could have been anything.  *note to self "Did we do this?"
 
2014-03-12 02:07:07 PM  
That link to search through sat images to try and help find it is pretty cool.
 
2014-03-12 02:07:59 PM  
The Langoliers finally caught up to them.
 
2014-03-12 02:10:22 PM  
Bob Woodruff @BobWoodruff 5h
.@ABC spoke with Richard Beaton w/Japanese Idemitsu Oil & Gas Co who hired Songa Mercur to drill & confirms email of Michael Mckay is real

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Looks like it being a hoax just got a lot less likely.

From his twitter page:

https://twitter.com/BobWoodruff
 
2014-03-12 02:10:31 PM  

rynthetyn: I have in my address book several Vietnamese government employees who are using hotmail or yahoo accounts for work email, so it's not that big a stretch that employees of a Vietnamese oil company might do the same.


I have corresponded with a prince and several former government officials from Nigeria who use Hotmail.
 
2014-03-12 02:10:43 PM  
farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2014-03-12 02:12:59 PM  
I keep thinking that this is going to turn out like the Egyptair 777 that caught fire on the ground.  Electronics caught fire, copilots oxygen supply feeds fire, fire extinguisher is insufficient to put fire out.  Radio and transponder get shut off to try to control the fire or they burn up.  On the ground you can evacuate.  In the air, you, well, can't use oxygen in the cockpit where the fire is, but you've got a fire burning through the skin of the plane, eventually depressurizing, meanwhile inherent stability keeps the plane in the air even without the autopilot until it starts getting pulled apart when the burn hole gets big enough.  See AvHerald's article for more info.

I tried to finish with a joke but I just can't.  Sorry FARK.  I disappoint.
 
2014-03-12 02:13:19 PM  

jaytkay: rynthetyn: I have in my address book several Vietnamese government employees who are using hotmail or yahoo accounts for work email, so it's not that big a stretch that employees of a Vietnamese oil company might do the same.

I have corresponded with a prince and several former government officials from Nigeria who use Hotmail.


 These are people I know in real life.
 
2014-03-12 02:16:18 PM  
Pics or it didn't happen.
 
2014-03-12 02:17:56 PM  

telejester: PreMortem: telejester: PreMortem: Why would aliens stage a catastrophy? No good reason.

Ruby Thewes can spell better than you.

I've conceded my spelling to my phone, which underlines in red any misspelled words. It did not. Your argument is invalid.

I beg to differ:

I can spell it, two. Learned it the same plaice you did, in the school room. One of the first words they tort me. "Ruby Thewes, you are a c-a-t-a-s-t-r-o-p-h-e!"


FTFY and the red squiggly lines.
 
2014-03-12 02:17:59 PM  

nekom: nekom: and nowhere near on course.

Actually, I take that one back.  From the distance he described it at it's relatively close to where it should have been.

Also, talk about a thorough witness report!  The guy appeared to know his stuff and included everything he could think of that might possibly be relevant to the investigation.


The part about bearing ranges...this oil rig worker sounds as if he's from a sailing or fishing family and knows his pilotage/navigation to have a) noted this and b) included it in his report.

Frankly, I have those skills and if I was on an oil rig of the fixed kind, I would orient myself by knowing the offset in degrees of the four quarters of the platform, just so I could ballpark the bearings and apparent headings of things approaching by land and sea. And it's not ridiculous that an oil rig worker would have sailing or boat experience; my last boat partner was...wait for it...a passenger jet pilot. We discussed the Venn diagram of boats and planes a lot.
 
2014-03-12 02:18:00 PM  
i1.ytimg.com
I say let them crash!
 
2014-03-12 02:18:56 PM  
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2014-03-12 02:19:04 PM  

Sticky Hands: Like the rumor that it was hijacked by the co-pilot, and the Malaysian military has known where it is all along because they shot it down?


That would be a better "look" for the Malaysian military compared to whatever the hell they've been doing since.

Maybe I'm conflating some of the earlier hoaxes/unconfirmed reports and being too hard on them as a result, but a 6 year old drawing lines on an etch-o-sketch would produce more consistent flight paths, coordinates, and basic narratives than they've produced.
 
2014-03-12 02:19:14 PM  

scotchlandia: I just saw a flying squirrel.


Now is not the time for kooky Canadian UFO conspiracies
 
2014-03-12 02:19:29 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: It could be a hoax, yes, Bob, you magnificent expert on all things.  Or not.  So send a goddamn plane out to the coordinates he described, adjusted for currents, and see what you see.

Seriously - who do they have looking for this thing?  Mr. Magoo?


You find it

www.dailygalaxy.com
 
2014-03-12 02:20:21 PM  

brap: People try to gain fame by hoax-reporting flaming airlines crashing into the sea?  What sort of vile pond scum would do that?  Is this some sort of dick enlargement metaphor?


Magorn: nekom: vpb: It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.

If it is a hoax (and it well could be) it was very well executed.  Everything seems to add up, at least at first glance.

The company has confirmed the email is genuine, but apparently the area described has been searched
without success so far



Even if its reported, doesn't mean its automatically for real:


i.cdn.turner.com
 
2014-03-12 02:20:28 PM  
That's what they want you to think.

i57.tinypic.com
 
2014-03-12 02:20:44 PM  

fireclown: WelldeadLink: gaslight: Well, a plane breaking apart at tens of thousands of feet in the sky, travelling at hundreds of miles per hour would result in confetti.

[richstokoe.com image 674x419]

There is no reason on Gods green earf that plane should have landed intact.  It's as close to a miracle as I've ever seen.


See that and raise you
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-12 02:21:28 PM  

Datanerd: I keep thinking that this is going to turn out like the Egyptair 777 that caught fire on the ground.  Electronics caught fire, copilots oxygen supply feeds fire, fire extinguisher is insufficient to put fire out.  Radio and transponder get shut off to try to control the fire or they burn up.  On the ground you can evacuate.  In the air, you, well, can't use oxygen in the cockpit where the fire is, but you've got a fire burning through the skin of the plane, eventually depressurizing, meanwhile inherent stability keeps the plane in the air even without the autopilot until it starts getting pulled apart when the burn hole gets big enough.  See AvHerald's article for more info.

I tried to finish with a joke but I just can't.  Sorry FARK.  I disappoint.


That's an idea -- though you'd think in the case of a cockpit fire, it wouldn't last long enough for the jet to go so far off-course. I can see not being able to radio for help (too busy fighting, and being overcome by the fire, and it could have destroyed enough equipment to making a radio call impossible) but you'd think there'd be debris somewhere near the last known location. Looking at that article, and the amount of damage the fire did to the EgyptAir plane in three minutes -- there's no way the Malaysian plane would have been able to stay in the air for very long.
 
2014-03-12 02:22:23 PM  

abhorrent1: A hotmail address to a gmail address? It's an oil company. They can't afford company email addresses?

Fake


THIS. It's not like this guy is the Governor of Alaska.
 
2014-03-12 02:22:28 PM  

DetrimentalScience: Bob Woodruff @BobWoodruff 5h
.@ABC spoke with Richard Beaton w/Japanese Idemitsu Oil & Gas Co who hired Songa Mercur to drill & confirms email of Michael Mckay is real

Expand


Looks like it being a hoax just got a lot less likely.

From his twitter page:

https://twitter.com/BobWoodruff


He also says it was not moving laterally, and he could not judge the distance. So it might be dozens of miles from that location, but less than 200 miles. Still a large area for a search.
 
2014-03-12 02:22:34 PM  
klipd.com
 
2014-03-12 02:23:32 PM  

Datanerd: I keep thinking that this is going to turn out like the Egyptair 777 that caught fire on the ground.  Electronics caught fire, copilots oxygen supply feeds fire, fire extinguisher is insufficient to put fire out.  Radio and transponder get shut off to try to control the fire or they burn up.  On the ground you can evacuate.  In the air, you, well, can't use oxygen in the cockpit where the fire is, but you've got a fire burning through the skin of the plane, eventually depressurizing, meanwhile inherent stability keeps the plane in the air even without the autopilot until it starts getting pulled apart when the burn hole gets big enough.  See AvHerald's article for more info.

I tried to finish with a joke but I just can't.  Sorry FARK.  I disappoint.


Like SwissAir 111, you mean?

Damn, I seem to have a good memory for flying, then plummeting, tragedy.
 
2014-03-12 02:28:15 PM  

abhorrent1: A hotmail address to a gmail address? It's an oil company. They can't afford company email addresses?

Fake


I set it up so that all my company email gets forwarded to a gmail account. It looks like it comes from my company email when I send but I'm sending it via gmail. (This is different than my company using a gmail server, btw. They use Outlook.)
 
2014-03-12 02:28:28 PM  

Anayalator: You find it

[www.dailygalaxy.com image 400x300]


i236.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-12 02:29:12 PM  

balki1867: raatz01: I like how "investigative journalists" now just tweet a picture with a "could be a hoax, how am I supposed to know?" note and walk away.

Journalism used to be a thing that people did to find out facts and stuff.  Now they just google a few key words and add "According to a LinkedIn profile with the suspect's name" to the front of whatever they are saying, so that they are ethically protected in case they got the story completely wrong.


\\ I wish I was making up the LinkedIn line


It's because news moves incredibly fast today. News agencies are so desperate to be the first to break a story that they'll throw any and all questionable leads up there with the hope that one is factual.
 
2014-03-12 02:31:54 PM  
I'm the first to report a meteor hit the plane in the perfect spot to avoid explosion but take it down.
 
2014-03-12 02:33:13 PM  
He'd have let us know sooner, but he's been trying to answer all those ringing phones at the crash site.
 
2014-03-12 02:34:58 PM  
Ain't sayin' shiat

www.indyprops.com
Seriously... nobody yet?
 
2014-03-12 02:36:09 PM  
Including your name and passport number seem an odd thing to do if you're hoaxing, given that any New Zealand official can authenticate it or not in 20 seconds.
 
2014-03-12 02:39:07 PM  

Killer Cars: Sticky Hands: Like the rumor that it was hijacked by the co-pilot, and the Malaysian military has known where it is all along because they shot it down?

That would be a better "look" for the Malaysian military compared to whatever the hell they've been doing since.

Maybe I'm conflating some of the earlier hoaxes/unconfirmed reports and being too hard on them as a result, but a 6 year old drawing lines on an etch-o-sketch would produce more consistent flight paths, coordinates, and basic narratives than they've produced.


Like this?

assets.nydailynews.com
 
2014-03-12 02:39:15 PM  

rynthetyn: My sister's aviation engineer inlaw seems to think that Boeing and the airline have a better idea of what's what than they're saying but that they aren't wanting to admit that they know because if they do their stock prices are going to plummet faster than the plane did.


The 777 has an enviable safety record. I would be really shocked if Boeing were trying to cover something up. The resulting fallout would be far greater than simply stating what happened and what is being done to prevent it from happening again.
 
2014-03-12 02:39:41 PM  

Valiente: Datanerd: I keep thinking that this is going to turn out like the Egyptair 777 that caught fire on the ground.  Electronics caught fire, copilots oxygen supply feeds fire, fire extinguisher is insufficient to put fire out.  Radio and transponder get shut off to try to control the fire or they burn up.  On the ground you can evacuate.  In the air, you, well, can't use oxygen in the cockpit where the fire is, but you've got a fire burning through the skin of the plane, eventually depressurizing, meanwhile inherent stability keeps the plane in the air even without the autopilot until it starts getting pulled apart when the burn hole gets big enough.  See AvHerald's article for more info.

I tried to finish with a joke but I just can't.  Sorry FARK.  I disappoint.

Like SwissAir 111, you mean?

Damn, I seem to have a good memory for flying, then plummeting, tragedy.


Swissair 111 was a slightly different source (IFE system and flammable insulation) and a completely different aircraft.  It crashed intact.  But this case could have gone that way too.  I'm just guessing that this one tore apart in the air.
 
2014-03-12 02:40:54 PM  
Whatchoo Talkinbout:

Many large pieces made it to the sea more or less intact. Similarly the shuttle was traveling at 17,000 MPH and reentering the atmosphere when it left many large and heavy pieces intact to hit Texas. Something made it down, something is floating. Carry on the mystery.

18 times the speed of light!
sprott.physics.wisc.edu
 
2014-03-12 02:42:14 PM  

James10952001: rynthetyn: My sister's aviation engineer inlaw seems to think that Boeing and the airline have a better idea of what's what than they're saying but that they aren't wanting to admit that they know because if they do their stock prices are going to plummet faster than the plane did.

The 777 has an enviable safety record. I would be really shocked if Boeing were trying to cover something up. The resulting fallout would be far greater than simply stating what happened and what is being done to prevent it from happening again.


The only people capable of creating any sort of cover-up would be the Malaysian government, but that's unlikely given the multinational searching going on.
 
2014-03-12 02:43:26 PM  
Buoyancy be damned, I am thinking AirPort 77 is the answer to this mystery.

www.jimusnr.com
 
2014-03-12 02:44:58 PM  
I blame Mugato.

media.giphy.com
 
2014-03-12 02:45:06 PM  

HenryFnord: Whatchoo Talkinbout:

Many large pieces made it to the sea more or less intact. Similarly the shuttle was traveling at 17,000 MPH and reentering the atmosphere when it left many large and heavy pieces intact to hit Texas. Something made it down, something is floating. Carry on the mystery.

18 times the speed of light!
[sprott.physics.wisc.edu image 371x282]


TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!!!

/whew, was worried that I wouldn't be able to snark anymore.
 
2014-03-12 02:45:39 PM  

cgraves67: Well, the guy could be wrong, but hey, there are dozens of ships and planes combing the sea for the wreckage. What's the harm in sending one over to that area for a looksie?


Well, the last one that went over to that area fell flaming from the sky, apparently.  Would you want to be on the next one?
 
2014-03-12 02:45:43 PM  

rynthetyn: My sister's aviation engineer inlaw seems to think that Boeing and the airline have a better idea of what's what than they're saying but that they aren't wanting to admit that they know because if they do their stock prices are going to plummet faster than the plane did.


Your sister's inlaw is a conspiracy theory nutjob, and probably not a very good aviation engineer.....
 
2014-03-12 02:45:47 PM  
or there's this Spoiler Alert...

barnaclebutt.files.wordpress.com

They're all dead.
 
2014-03-12 02:47:50 PM  

Brick-House: or there's this Spoiler Alert...

[barnaclebutt.files.wordpress.com image 850x652]

They're all dead.


At this point in the Lost chronology, they were all still alive.

/and it was still good.
 
2014-03-12 02:50:52 PM  

rynthetyn: My sister's aviation engineer inlaw seems to think that


My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw the missing jet pass over 31 Flavors last night in flames. I guess it's pretty serious.
 
2014-03-12 02:52:15 PM  
OMG! I just accidentally a whole plan!
 
2014-03-12 02:52:48 PM  

Bungles: Brick-House: or there's this Spoiler Alert...

[barnaclebutt.files.wordpress.com image 850x652]

They're all dead.

At this point in the Lost chronology, they were all still alive.

/and it was still good.


Damn you Ana Lucia for being such a biatch that they had to kill Libby as well to stop the fans from partying.

I still can't stand Michelle Rodriguez.
 
2014-03-12 02:52:53 PM  
Here is an oil platform from the tomnod.com
http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/23991
 
2014-03-12 02:53:32 PM  

Deep Contact: I'm the first to report a meteor hit the plane in the perfect spot to avoid explosion but take it down.


Actually, CNN earlier today had the "hit by meteor" theory...
 
2014-03-12 02:56:06 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: It could be a hoax, yes, Bob, you magnificent expert on all things.  Or not.  So send a goddamn plane out to the coordinates he described, adjusted for currents, and see what you see.

Seriously - who do they have looking for this thing?  Mr. Magoo?


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-12 02:57:29 PM  
For the love of god somebody inform CNN.
 
2014-03-12 02:57:57 PM  

stonicus: Deep Contact: I'm the first to report a meteor hit the plane in the perfect spot to avoid explosion but take it down.

Actually, CNN earlier today had the "hit by meteor" theory...


A jet being hit by a meteor is no more unlikely that any area the same size being hit my a meteor - and millions upon millions such areas have been. It's outlandish, but firmly within the grounds of reality (unlike landing a plane on a secret island, a la Bond,).
 
2014-03-12 02:58:14 PM  
Who are the idiots who put together these "hoaxes" so quickly? Just seems like a serious mental imbalance to see a tragedy and immediately jump online to put together a "hilarious" hoax about it.
 
2014-03-12 03:00:10 PM  

Prophet of Loss: Subject: Weekly update

Dear Boss Guy,

I cleaned out the intake like you wanted. Everything is running smoothly.

Sum Yung Dude

PS: We are almost out of coffee tea, rice, and rat meat
PPS: I saw a flaming plane crash into the ocean


amirite?
 
2014-03-12 03:00:54 PM  
Bungles:
A jet being hit by a meteor is no more unlikely that any area the same size being hit my a meteor - and millions upon millions such areas have been. It's outlandish, but firmly within the grounds of reality (unlike landing a plane on a secret island, a la Bond,).

Actually, I would think a jet has a slightly better chance, given less thick atmosphere to burn up small meteorites.
 
2014-03-12 03:01:01 PM  

telejester: PreMortem: telejester: PreMortem: Why would aliens stage a catastrophy? No good reason.

Ruby Thewes can spell better than you.

I've conceded my spelling to my phone, which underlines in red any misspelled words. It did not. Your argument is invalid.

I beg to differ:

I can spell it, too. Learned it the same place you did, in the school room. One of the first words they taught me. "Ruby Thewes, you are a c-a-t-a-s-t-r-o-p-h-e!"


It's Cat Ass Trophy, damn it.
images.lazygamer.net
 
2014-03-12 03:02:16 PM  

rynthetyn: jaytkay: rynthetyn: I have in my address book several Vietnamese government employees who are using hotmail or yahoo accounts for work email, so it's not that big a stretch that employees of a Vietnamese oil company might do the same.

I have corresponded with a prince and several former government officials from Nigeria who use Hotmail.

 These are people I know in real life.


I know, but the setup for the joke could not be resisted
 
2014-03-12 03:03:01 PM  

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: rynthetyn: My sister's aviation engineer inlaw seems to think that Boeing and the airline have a better idea of what's what than they're saying but that they aren't wanting to admit that they know because if they do their stock prices are going to plummet faster than the plane did.

Your sister's inlaw is a conspiracy theory nutjob, and probably not a very good aviation engineer.....


img.fark.net


/I've been waiting to see a comment from you again
//I am posting this as a funny joke and I hope you think it's funny too that I am following up from yesterday
///don't really kill yourself
 
2014-03-12 03:03:41 PM  

Datanerd: I keep thinking that this is going to turn out like the Egyptair 777 that caught fire on the ground.  Electronics caught fire, copilots oxygen supply feeds fire, fire extinguisher is insufficient to put fire out.  Radio and transponder get shut off to try to control the fire or they burn up.  On the ground you can evacuate.  In the air, you, well, can't use oxygen in the cockpit where the fire is, but you've got a fire burning through the skin of the plane, eventually depressurizing, meanwhile inherent stability keeps the plane in the air even without the autopilot until it starts getting pulled apart when the burn hole gets big enough.  See AvHerald's article for more info.

I tried to finish with a joke but I just can't.  Sorry FARK.  I disappoint.



cdnl.complex.com
 
2014-03-12 03:04:00 PM  

stonicus: Deep Contact: I'm the first to report a meteor hit the plane in the perfect spot to avoid explosion but take it down.

Actually, CNN earlier today had the "hit by meteor" theory...


Where do you think they got it from?
 
2014-03-12 03:06:29 PM  
s2.hubimg.com
 
2014-03-12 03:06:59 PM  

Danger Mouse: Bf+: vpb: It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.

Disappearing an entire plane?  Now that's some hoax!
Waaaaiiiiit a minute... Where's David Copperfield during all this?


On his private island raping a plane full of asian chicks.


Why would he rape the plane, when he could just rape the asian chicks?
 
2014-03-12 03:07:20 PM  

SDRR: Benevolent Misanthrope: It could be a hoax, yes, Bob, you magnificent expert on all things.  Or not.  So send a goddamn plane out to the coordinates he described, adjusted for currents, and see what you see.

Seriously - who do they have looking for this thing?  Mr. Magoo?

[img.fark.net image 225x225]


Oh, yes. It is obvious to my trained eye, that there is much more going on here than meets the ear.
 
2014-03-12 03:08:33 PM  
According to an "Air Safety Official" on NPR there was a service note put out that there were cracks found in another 777 around the antenna array. The airline in question had the aircraft serviced recently, but also said (somewhere) that more service was required. Her supposition was that the cracks caused a decompression failure, taking off the antennas. She followed up stating that the aircraft automatically goes into a survival mode, automatically shutting down every system but flight controls. Seems odd to me to turn off transponders and radio equipment, but I didn't have a hand in the "survival mode".
 
2014-03-12 03:10:04 PM  

exvaxman: According to an "Air Safety Official" on NPR there was a service note put out that there were cracks found in another 777 around the antenna array. The airline in question had the aircraft serviced recently, but also said (somewhere) that more service was required. Her supposition was that the cracks caused a decompression failure, taking off the antennas. She followed up stating that the aircraft automatically goes into a survival mode, automatically shutting down every system but flight controls. Seems odd to me to turn off transponders and radio equipment, but I didn't have a hand in the "survival mode".


Different model of antenna.  Not applicable to this plane.
 
2014-03-12 03:10:29 PM  

exvaxman: According to an "Air Safety Official" on NPR there was a service note put out that there were cracks found in another 777 around the antenna array. The airline in question had the aircraft serviced recently, but also said (somewhere) that more service was required. Her supposition was that the cracks caused a decompression failure, taking off the antennas. She followed up stating that the aircraft automatically goes into a survival mode, automatically shutting down every system but flight controls. Seems odd to me to turn off transponders and radio equipment, but I didn't have a hand in the "survival mode".


I'm not sure there is a single commercial airline model that doesn't have a fistful of service notes.
 
2014-03-12 03:14:55 PM  

the_sidewinder: [i00.i.aliimg.com image 850x637]


Clever image. I suppose you have to be from the right part of the country to recognize those objects as what they are.
 
2014-03-12 03:21:03 PM  
i.space.com
 
2014-03-12 03:24:30 PM  

exvaxman: According to an "Air Safety Official" on NPR there was a service note put out that there were cracks found in another 777 around the antenna array. The airline in question had the aircraft serviced recently, but also said (somewhere) that more service was required. Her supposition was that the cracks caused a decompression failure, taking off the antennas. She followed up stating that the aircraft automatically goes into a survival mode, automatically shutting down every system but flight controls. Seems odd to me to turn off transponders and radio equipment, but I didn't have a hand in the "survival mode".


I take back my earlier comment - I can't find the original source.  I read somewhere that it didn't have the particular antenna and it was shown with pictures that there wasn't a hump there, but now I can't find it and I don't trust myself completely on this.
 
2014-03-12 03:25:04 PM  

Oreamnos: the_sidewinder: [i00.i.aliimg.com image 850x637]

Clever image. I suppose you have to be from the right part of the country to recognize those objects as what they are.


Or you could just check out the image name.
 
2014-03-12 03:26:29 PM  
Here are some of the previous documented problems with the missing airplane.

P: Left inside main tire almost needs replacement.
S: Almost replaced left inside main tire.

P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough.
S: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft.

P: Something loose in cockpit.
S: Something tightened in cockpit.

P: Dead bugs on windshield.
S: Live bugs on back-order.

P: Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200 feet per minute descent.
S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground.
Additional Details
P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear.
S: Evidence removed.

P: DME volume unbelievably loud.
S: DME volume set to more believable level.

P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick.
S: That's what friction locks are for.

P: IFF inoperative in OFF mode.
S: IFF always inoperative in OFF mode.

P: Suspected crack in windshield.
S: Suspect you're right.

P: Number 3 engine missing.
S: Engine found on right wing after brief search.

P: Aircraft handles funny. (I love this one!)
S: Aircraft warned to straighten up, fly right, and be serious.

P: Target radar hums.
S: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics.

P: Mouse in cockpit.
S: Cat installed.

P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding
on something with a hammer.
 
2014-03-12 03:26:32 PM  

Oreamnos: the_sidewinder: [i00.i.aliimg.com image 850x637]

Clever image. I suppose you have to be from the right part of the country to recognize those objects as what they are.



The... part of the country with mouseover abilities?
 
2014-03-12 03:31:05 PM  
The plane was stolen and stripped down. Now comes the bodies in life jackets and carefully selected wreckage.
 
2014-03-12 03:32:07 PM  

exvaxman: According to an "Air Safety Official" on NPR there was a service note put out that there were cracks found in another 777 around the antenna array. The airline in question had the aircraft serviced recently, but also said (somewhere) that more service was required. Her supposition was that the cracks caused a decompression failure, taking off the antennas. She followed up stating that the aircraft automatically goes into a survival mode, automatically shutting down every system but flight controls. Seems odd to me to turn off transponders and radio equipment, but I didn't have a hand in the "survival mode".


That doesn't sound right at all.
 
2014-03-12 03:32:13 PM  
I've finally settled on my conspiracy theory;
With all the disputed island chains in the general area(the spratly's are a little far but there are others that are a bit closer)Imma gonna say one of the disputees; China, Japan, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Myanmar, India made an oopsie. All those countries are out there waving there navy dicks at each other saying "this is our hunk of rock in the middle of a natural gas field", with that many playas it's only a matter of time before someone gets jittery. So you have an airliner with a faulty/malfunctioning/disabled transponder that identifies it as a commercial jet flying into the region as an unidentified aircraft. Someone in it's flight path could of got nervous and launched  a missile. If the transponder was malfunctioning and it happened right at the time of transferring atc from malaysia to ho chi minh city it's conceivable that it just got unaccounted for. The unknown countries ship that shot it down is obviously first on the scene, sees the boo boo and scoops up any big debris in the immediate area, if the plane went down mostly intact and sank quickly there may have been very little debris to begin with. Now that ship is whistling as if nothing happened and is "assisting" in the search.
/That's my story.
 
2014-03-12 03:41:15 PM  
"LET'S ROLL"
 
2014-03-12 03:42:46 PM  

Triumph: The plane was stolen and stripped down. Now comes the bodies in life jackets and carefully selected wreckage.


media0.giphy.com
 
2014-03-12 03:44:33 PM  

Obscene_CNN: Cute girls might be to blame for the missing plane (warning chinese dub over for a few seconds)   http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=131_1394631622


deleted due to copyright infringement
 
2014-03-12 03:47:27 PM  

HenryFnord: Whatchoo Talkinbout:

Many large pieces made it to the sea more or less intact. Similarly the shuttle was traveling at 17,000 MPH and reentering the atmosphere when it left many large and heavy pieces intact to hit Texas. Something made it down, something is floating. Carry on the mystery.

18 times the speed of light!
[sprott.physics.wisc.edu image 371x282]


CNN says it, I believe it. Einstein would like a word with them.
 
2014-03-12 03:50:19 PM  

Pinner: Whatchoo Talkinbout: gaslight: Well, a plane breaking apart at tens of thousands of feet in the sky, travelling at hundreds of miles per hour would result in confetti. The forces at work on the aluminum, steel, carbon fibre and plastic would likely spread the débris over a large area and in many small pieces. It may well be that the area was searched before but the pieces were too small to have been spotted from the air.

Anyone remember how a fuel tank spark destroyed a plane flying from New York to Paris a few years ago? It may have been as "simple" as that.

Many large pieces made it to the sea more or less intact. Similarly the shuttle was traveling at 17,000 MPH and reentering the atmosphere when it left many large and heavy pieces intact to hit Texas. Something made it down, something is floating. Carry on the mystery.

No doubt. Rocket fuel is going to eat debris way faster than jet fuel on the way down.
There would have to be something floating in the sea.
Unless those fart-sponge seat cushions exploded too.


One night only, the Fart-Sponge Seat Cushions.  Couldn't help myself.
 
2014-03-12 03:51:13 PM  

SurfaceTension: abhorrent1: A hotmail address to a gmail address? It's an oil company. They can't afford company email addresses?



Seems to me like it would be inappropriate for someone to send a personal email (like a description of a burning plane, which has nothing to do with work) to Vietnamese authorities on a work email address.
 
2014-03-12 03:52:21 PM  

Deep Contact: [i.space.com image 575x383]


A starship warping out of orbit?
 
2014-03-12 03:52:55 PM  

Datanerd: exvaxman: According to an "Air Safety Official" on NPR there was a service note put out that there were cracks found in another 777 around the antenna array. The airline in question had the aircraft serviced recently, but also said (somewhere) that more service was required. Her supposition was that the cracks caused a decompression failure, taking off the antennas. She followed up stating that the aircraft automatically goes into a survival mode, automatically shutting down every system but flight controls. Seems odd to me to turn off transponders and radio equipment, but I didn't have a hand in the "survival mode".

I take back my earlier comment - I can't find the original source.  I read somewhere that it didn't have the particular antenna and it was shown with pictures that there wasn't a hump there, but now I can't find it and I don't trust myself completely on this.


And now I found the source, an air safety pro on another website - "...The warning applies to 777s equipped with Inmarsat High Gain Antenna (and of a certain type of HGA antenna, I think the ones made by CMC or IMS). 9M-MRO DOES NOT have an Inmarsat HGA installed..."
 
2014-03-12 03:53:54 PM  
"So, any blue Chevy commercial airliner pulling a small church going down in flames, I figure that'd be the one."

s.mcstatic.com
 
2014-03-12 03:53:58 PM  
I'm waiting to see how  the Taiwanese animators spin their next creation on YouTube.
 
2014-03-12 04:02:17 PM  
My pet theory

1 - something happened that disabled communications
2 - plane either glided into the water relatively intact or fell apart, raining debris  - either way it sunk
3 - like most mysteries, we will collectively chew on this until it is (and it will be) found - some of us will chew on it like tinfoil forever, refusing to believe anything but alien/government f**kery
4 - some time, generally within two years, will pass
5 - the evidence will show an unusual conflux of events that will lead authorities to label it "pilot error"

I truly hope whatever it was was mercifully brief and that FSM took these people up in a great and comforting slotted spoon to a place where the TSA is verbotin and everyone has access to flyer's clubs
 
2014-03-12 04:06:06 PM  

Deep Contact: stonicus: Deep Contact: I'm the first to report a meteor hit the plane in the perfect spot to avoid explosion but take it down.

Actually, CNN earlier today had the "hit by meteor" theory...

Where do you think they got it from?


I mentioned it on here a few days ago. That and the possibility of a collision with a military aircraft.
 
2014-03-12 04:11:46 PM  

supershaft: I've finally settled on my conspiracy theory;
With all the disputed island chains in the general area(the spratly's are a little far but there are others that are a bit closer)Imma gonna say one of the disputees; China, Japan, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Myanmar, India made an oopsie. All those countries are out there waving there navy dicks at each other saying "this is our hunk of rock in the middle of a natural gas field", with that many playas it's only a matter of time before someone gets jittery. So you have an airliner with a faulty/malfunctioning/disabled transponder that identifies it as a commercial jet flying into the region as an unidentified aircraft. Someone in it's flight path could of got nervous and launched  a missile. If the transponder was malfunctioning and it happened right at the time of transferring atc from malaysia to ho chi minh city it's conceivable that it just got unaccounted for. The unknown countries ship that shot it down is obviously first on the scene, sees the boo boo and scoops up any big debris in the immediate area, if the plane went down mostly intact and sank quickly there may have been very little debris to begin with. Now that ship is whistling as if nothing happened and is "assisting" in the search.

/That's my story.

lay off the caffeine, take your time, preview before posting.
 
2014-03-12 04:15:35 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: Angela Lansbury's Merkin: /I think we can all agree that the whole response by Malaysia has been a cluster fark though.

The fact that you can fly a commercial airliner across the country without detection as to be fairly embarrassing to their military.


Or maybe it is a different form of embarrassment.  Maybe interceptors were scrambled and shot down the airliner.
 
2014-03-12 04:18:54 PM  

calbert: supershaft: I've finally settled on my conspiracy theory;
With all the disputed island chains in the general area(the spratly's are a little far but there are others that are a bit closer)Imma gonna say one of the disputees; China, Japan, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Myanmar, India made an oopsie. All those countries are out there waving there navy dicks at each other saying "this is our hunk of rock in the middle of a natural gas field", with that many playas it's only a matter of time before someone gets jittery. So you have an airliner with a faulty/malfunctioning/disabled transponder that identifies it as a commercial jet flying into the region as an unidentified aircraft. Someone in it's flight path could of got nervous and launched  a missile. If the transponder was malfunctioning and it happened right at the time of transferring atc from malaysia to ho chi minh city it's conceivable that it just got unaccounted for. The unknown countries ship that shot it down is obviously first on the scene, sees the boo boo and scoops up any big debris in the immediate area, if the plane went down mostly intact and sank quickly there may have been very little debris to begin with. Now that ship is whistling as if nothing happened and is "assisting" in the search.

/That's my story.
lLay off the caffeine., tTake your time., pPreview before posting.

 
2014-03-12 04:27:47 PM  
eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable and confuse many simple details so it is hard to believe someone who remembers the exact longitude and latitude of the event

in a lot of the countries involved lying in a report/hoax or just pissing off those in charge will get you dead if the families dont chase you down and kill you firs,t delaying the report for 5 days of a flaming craft would subject you to lawsuits from families that their loved one survived and later died because this asshat  delayed the search and rescue teams arrival at the real crash site or that  his delay in reporting caused the deaths

this makes about as much sense as the military radar operators not noticing an unidentified contact the size of an airliner outside of a normal route/flight plan (i suspect there are a few open jobs in radar operation right now)

even the airline is having to issue press releases debunking rumors, the latest one is the airline is flying some family members to india
 
2014-03-12 04:32:19 PM  

calbert: /That's my story.

lay off the caffeine, take your time, preview before posting.


Ok, thanks for the sound advice. I still stand by my conspiracy regardless of feverish caffeine fueled rambling or typos.
/Did I post too late in the thread for Fark FAA experts and retired Rear Admirals to pick apart my theory?
 
2014-03-12 04:32:51 PM  

porcupine tree: Danger Mouse: Bf+: vpb: It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.

Disappearing an entire plane?  Now that's some hoax!
Waaaaiiiiit a minute... Where's David Copperfield during all this?


On his private island raping a plane full of asian chicks.

Why would he rape the plane, when he could just rape the asian chicks?



Chuck Norris is there too?
 
2014-03-12 04:34:58 PM  
WTFDYW

P: Pilot relief tube not long enough
S: Extended pilot relief tube. Check good with enlisted dick
 
2014-03-12 04:36:09 PM  
This is interesting.  I plotted the data we have and at the location where he reports flames, it's almost directly opposite of the location they said they saw a radar target on.  I have no idea what this means, probably nothing.

i897.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-12 04:36:36 PM  

Oreamnos: the_sidewinder: [i00.i.aliimg.com image 850x637]

Clever image. I suppose you have to be from the right part of the country to recognize those objects as what they are.


I looked at the image, and thought "those look like saltlicks, but why?"
 
2014-03-12 04:37:15 PM  

joshiz: How hard is it to plot the coordinates that are right there in the email on a Google Map and post a screenshot in the article?

Here, let me google map that for you:
[i.imgur.com image 850x528]


I get 396 miles from the last transponder ping to the oil rig.  If the aircraft went down in flames at the reported altitude, it would be over the horizon and not visible from the oil rig.

Either the aircraft was much closer to the oil rig, or the eyewit saw something else, or this is a hoax.
 
2014-03-12 04:44:39 PM  

nekom: This is interesting.  I plotted the data we have and at the location where he reports flames, it's almost directly opposite of the location they said they saw a radar target on.  I have no idea what this means, probably nothing.

[i897.photobucket.com image 762x567]


It means he is full of shiat.
 
2014-03-12 04:45:26 PM  
China says they have a suspected crash site at sea.  via CNN new alerts, no links anywhere yet.
 
2014-03-12 04:49:16 PM  

brap: People try to gain fame by hoax-reporting flaming airlines crashing into the sea?  What sort of vile pond scum would do that?  Is this some sort of dick enlargement metaphor?


rogueoperator.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-12 04:49:20 PM  
img.fark.net
I wonder what the odds are in Vegas for alien abduction at this point?
 
2014-03-12 04:55:33 PM  

nekom: China says they have a suspected crash site at sea.  via CNN new alerts, no links anywhere yet.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/ind ex .html

that is the page that came up when i clicked on the banner
 
2014-03-12 05:03:27 PM  

ummhima2: nekom: China says they have a suspected crash site at sea.  via CNN new alerts, no links anywhere yet.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/ind ex .html

that is the page that came up when i clicked on the banner


I see they just put it up.  Perfect time for a breakthrough as it's daybreak there.
 
2014-03-12 05:07:32 PM  

ummhima2: nekom: China says they have a suspected crash site at sea.  via CNN new alerts, no links anywhere yet.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/12/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/ind ex .html

that is the page that came up when i clicked on the banner


My local news started their broadcast saying the Chinese said they may have found the crash site with one of their satellites, more at 5:30.
 
2014-03-12 05:10:22 PM  

kpaxoid: I get 396 miles from the last transponder ping to the oil rig.  If the aircraft went down in flames at the reported altitude, it would be over the horizon and not visible from the oil rig.


I have no evidence to counteract what you are saying but oil rigs can be quite high up so you have to factor that in.

There also may be some kind of mirroring effect which could effectively extend the horizon as there was for the Titanic but I'm just throwing that out there.
 
2014-03-12 05:12:31 PM  
 
2014-03-12 05:18:37 PM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: Ain't sayin' shiat

[www.indyprops.com image 334x466]
Seriously... nobody yet?


I just re-watched that movie last night.
 
2014-03-12 05:22:56 PM  

PreMortem: Why would aliens stage a catastrophy? No good reason.


img.fark.net

Nah, man, they just wanted their stuff back.  The midair recovery would have gone off without a hitch if the US military hadn't shot down the UFO that had the plane in it's tractor beam.
 
2014-03-12 05:25:38 PM  
plots of the various coordinates from reddit.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-12 05:30:31 PM  
Well...good news is china thinks they found it and there were massive chunks on the surface. Bad news is that the image is from Sunday and even if there were survivors...well, you get the picture
 
2014-03-12 05:32:44 PM  

WelldeadLink: gaslight: Well, a plane breaking apart at tens of thousands of feet in the sky, travelling at hundreds of miles per hour would result in confetti.

[richstokoe.com image 674x419]


That pilot was mighty fond of living.
 
2014-03-12 05:35:12 PM  
Looks like their suspected site is just 33nmi northeast of where radar contact was first reported lost.  That's not really in line with something that caused an immediate nose-dive.
 
2014-03-12 05:37:36 PM  

nekom: Looks like their suspected site is just 33nmi northeast of where radar contact was first reported lost.  That's not really in line with something that caused an immediate nose-dive.


OTOH if it was that close to where radar contact was lost, why was it so hard to spot earlier?
 
2014-03-12 05:38:42 PM  
http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/4894 - Middle square, lower right corner

i897.photobucket.com

That's what's there.
 
2014-03-12 05:39:06 PM  

supershaft: I've finally settled on my conspiracy theory;
With all the disputed island chains in the general area(the spratly's are a little far but there are others that are a bit closer)Imma gonna say one of the disputees; China, Japan, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Myanmar, India made an oopsie. All those countries are out there waving there navy dicks at each other saying "this is our hunk of rock in the middle of a natural gas field", with that many playas it's only a matter of time before someone gets jittery. So you have an airliner with a faulty/malfunctioning/disabled transponder that identifies it as a commercial jet flying into the region as an unidentified aircraft. Someone in it's flight path could of got nervous and launched  a missile. If the transponder was malfunctioning and it happened right at the time of transferring atc from malaysia to ho chi minh city it's conceivable that it just got unaccounted for. The unknown countries ship that shot it down is obviously first on the scene, sees the boo boo and scoops up any big debris in the immediate area, if the plane went down mostly intact and sank quickly there may have been very little debris to begin with. Now that ship is whistling as if nothing happened and is "assisting" in the search.
/That's my story.


I think even goatse would have trouble pulling that one out ...
 
2014-03-12 05:42:30 PM  

kpaxoid: joshiz: How hard is it to plot the coordinates that are right there in the email on a Google Map and post a screenshot in the article?

Here, let me google map that for you:
[i.imgur.com image 850x528]

I get 396 miles from the last transponder ping to the oil rig.  If the aircraft went down in flames at the reported altitude, it would be over the horizon and not visible from the oil rig.

Either the aircraft was much closer to the oil rig, or the eyewit saw something else, or this is a hoax.


All past flights seem to have a loss of ADS data around the same point as MH370, and then reaquire ADS near the Veitnam coast. Just because the transponder went dark doesnt mean that it is the location of the incident. It just means nobody is listening in that area
 
2014-03-12 05:45:44 PM  

supershaft: calbert: /That's my story.

lay off the caffeine, take your time, preview before posting.

Ok, thanks for the sound advice. I still stand by my conspiracy regardless of feverish caffeine fueled rambling or typos.
/Did I post too late in the thread for Fark FAA experts and retired Rear Admirals to pick apart my theory?


I actually like your theory, it includes a lot of elements that are certainly within the realm of possibility, especially considering the parties involved.

it's a nice mix of ego, incompetence, and cover-up.
 
2014-03-12 05:51:14 PM  
I'm beginning to doubt that there ever was a plane in the first place.
 
2014-03-12 05:57:23 PM  

FarkingReading: The plane had lost power in all three engines, dropped from thirty-four thousand feet to twelve thousand feet. Something like four miles. When the steep glide began, people rose, fell, collided, swam in their seats. Then the serious screaming and moaning began. Almost immediately a voice from the flight deck was heard on the intercom: "We're falling out of the sky! We're going down! We're a silver gleaming death machine!" This outburst struck the passengers as an all but total breakdown of authority, competence and command presence and it brought on a round of fresh and desperate wailing.



Huh?
 
2014-03-12 06:03:03 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: I looked at the image, and thought "those look like saltlicks, but why?"


The phrase "Take this with a grain of salt"
 
2014-03-12 06:08:06 PM  

calbert: I actually like your theory, it includes a lot of elements that are certainly within the realm of possibility, especially considering the parties involved.

it's a nice mix of ego, incompetence, and cover-up.


Thanks, i'm kind of pleased with the way it came out. I was careful not to jump in to the discussion too early with an inferior conspiracy. i also left us with a new mystery; which country accidentally shot down a civilian airliner? Most people are gonna go with those sneaky Chinese but my dark horse is Japan.
 
2014-03-12 06:14:24 PM  

the_sidewinder: UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: I looked at the image, and thought "those look like saltlicks, but why?"

The phrase "Take this with a grain of salt"


Ahh. Don't mind me, I'm feeling kinda dull, distracted, dim and dumb today. Low energy.
 
2014-03-12 06:18:37 PM  

Whatchoo Talkinbout: gaslight: Well, a plane breaking apart at tens of thousands of feet in the sky, travelling at hundreds of miles per hour would result in confetti. The forces at work on the aluminum, steel, carbon fibre and plastic would likely spread the débris over a large area and in many small pieces. It may well be that the area was searched before but the pieces were too small to have been spotted from the air.

Anyone remember how a fuel tank spark destroyed a plane flying from New York to Paris a few years ago? It may have been as "simple" as that.

Many large pieces made it to the sea more or less intact. Similarly the shuttle was traveling at 17,000 MPH and reentering the atmosphere when it left many large and heavy pieces intact to hit Texas. Something made it down, something is floating. Carry on the mystery.



Agreed but that happened on camera. There are 900,000 flights a year that happen uneventfully. No was watching closely, the search area is 90,000 square kilometres so yes, there are doubtless large chunks but if you have no idea where any of them are, it'll take some to find them. Anyway, on the radio just now the announcer said there may be some stuff floating.
 
2014-03-12 06:25:56 PM  
Yeah, China has released satellite images taken on Sunday of 3 large objects in the water off the coast of Vietnam.
 
2014-03-12 06:38:19 PM  

Angela Lansbury's Merkin: Yeah, China has released satellite images taken on Sunday of 3 large objects in the water off the coast of Vietnam.


I hope those are correct and the wreckage found and the families of these people can start having closure.
 
2014-03-12 07:04:56 PM  

kpaxoid: I get 396 miles from the last transponder ping to the oil rig. If the aircraft went down in flames at the reported altitude, it would be over the horizon and not visible from the oil rig.


The Chinese sat images were taken on Sunday. It seems reasonable that the wreckage could have drifted a long way by then.
 
2014-03-12 07:14:00 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: [www.thestar.com.my image 620x413]

This guy is on it! surely the plane will be found soon!!!

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/12/Missing-MH370-Bomoh -u ses-magic-carpet-to-find-Boeing/



At first, I said 'Holy Sheesh..... you can't be serious.' but then I remembered that Malaysians actually use handwriting analysis to decide who to hire.

* at least they did when I knew a group of Malays in university 20 yrs ago.
 
2014-03-12 07:28:10 PM  

ummhima2: eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable and confuse many simple details so it is hard to believe someone who remembers the exact longitude and latitude of the event


It's likely that someone working at an oil rig at sea would know his longitude and latitude.


in a lot of the countries involved lying in a report/hoax or just pissing off those in charge will get you dead if the families dont chase you down and kill you firs,t delaying the report for 5 days of a flaming craft would subject you to lawsuits from families that their loved one survived and later died because this asshat  delayed the search and rescue teams arrival at the real crash site or that  his delay in reporting caused the deaths

"I tried to contact the Malaysian and Vietnam officials several days ago. But I do not know if the message was received."

I'm not endorsing the witness claim as legitimate, but you are off in your judgement.
 
2014-03-12 07:29:51 PM  

WTFDYW: Here are some of the previous documented problems with the missing airplane.

P: Left inside main tire almost needs replacement.
S: Almost replaced left inside main tire.

P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough.
S: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft.

P: Something loose in cockpit.
S: Something tightened in cockpit.

P: Dead bugs on windshield.
S: Live bugs on back-order.

P: Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200 feet per minute descent.
S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground.
Additional Details
P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear.
S: Evidence removed.

P: DME volume unbelievably loud.
S: DME volume set to more believable level.

P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick.
S: That's what friction locks are for.

P: IFF inoperative in OFF mode.
S: IFF always inoperative in OFF mode.

P: Suspected crack in windshield.
S: Suspect you're right.

P: Number 3 engine missing.
S: Engine found on right wing after brief search.

P: Aircraft handles funny. (I love this one!)
S: Aircraft warned to straighten up, fly right, and be serious.

P: Target radar hums.
S: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics.

P: Mouse in cockpit.
S: Cat installed.

P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding
on something with a hammer.


HA! I haven't seen that one in forever. Thanks for the refresher.
 
2014-03-12 08:13:41 PM  
Maybe they were doing a Chinese fire drill and the pilots all fell out of the plane.
 
2014-03-12 08:52:22 PM  

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Ahh. Don't mind me, I'm feeling kinda dull, distracted, dim and dumb today. Low energy.


Story of my week man, take her easy
 
2014-03-12 09:10:22 PM  

supershaft: calbert: I actually like your theory, it includes a lot of elements that are certainly within the realm of possibility, especially considering the parties involved.

it's a nice mix of ego, incompetence, and cover-up.

Thanks, i'm kind of pleased with the way it came out. I was careful not to jump in to the discussion too early with an inferior conspiracy. i also left us with a new mystery; which country accidentally shot down a civilian airliner? Most people are gonna go with those sneaky Chinese but my dark horse is Japan.


Why would they shoot down an airliner over international waters....simply because the transponder was inoperative?  Maybe you should just stick to drinking, and let us serious analysts figure this one out.
 
2014-03-12 09:20:00 PM  

queezyweezel: Deep Contact: stonicus: Deep Contact: I'm the first to report a meteor hit the plane in the perfect spot to avoid explosion but take it down.

Actually, CNN earlier today had the "hit by meteor" theory...

Where do you think they got it from?

I mentioned it on here a few days ago. That and the possibility of a collision with a military aircraft.


So lets get this straight, I mentioned it first, then you wrote about it, then CNN puts it in a story.
 
2014-03-12 09:49:23 PM  

the_coach5040: FarkingReading: The plane had lost power in all three engines, dropped from thirty-four thousand feet to twelve thousand feet. Something like four miles. When the steep glide began, people rose, fell, collided, swam in their seats. Then the serious screaming and moaning began. Almost immediately a voice from the flight deck was heard on the intercom: "We're falling out of the sky! We're going down! We're a silver gleaming death machine!" This outburst struck the passengers as an all but total breakdown of authority, competence and command presence and it brought on a round of fresh and desperate wailing.


Huh?


If you google it, you come to the realization that it's from a book called "White Noise" that is a piece of social satire. Sort of like sticking a picture as a funny juxtaposition to what's going on in a story or thread, so are oddly ironic, goofy, or fitting quotes.
 
2014-03-12 09:57:57 PM  

the_coach5040: FarkingReading: The plane had lost power in all three engines, dropped from thirty-four thousand feet to twelve thousand feet. Something like four miles. When the steep glide began, people rose, fell, collided, swam in their seats. Then the serious screaming and moaning began. Almost immediately a voice from the flight deck was heard on the intercom: "We're falling out of the sky! We're going down! We're a silver gleaming death machine!" This outburst struck the passengers as an all but total breakdown of authority, competence and command presence and it brought on a round of fresh and desperate wailing.


Huh?


Don DeLillo - "White Noise"

I've always found that part memorable.

/fear of flying
 
2014-03-13 12:29:56 AM  

StopLurkListen: ummhima2: eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable and confuse many simple details so it is hard to believe someone who remembers the exact longitude and latitude of the event

It's likely that someone working at an oil rig at sea would know his longitude and latitude.


in a lot of the countries involved lying in a report/hoax or just pissing off those in charge will get you dead if the families dont chase you down and kill you firs,t delaying the report for 5 days of a flaming craft would subject you to lawsuits from families that their loved one survived and later died because this asshat  delayed the search and rescue teams arrival at the real crash site or that  his delay in reporting caused the deaths

"I tried to contact the Malaysian and Vietnam officials several days ago. But I do not know if the message was received."

I'm not endorsing the witness claim as legitimate, but you are off in your judgement.


not off in judgement he could have released the email to the media 4 days ago if he did not get a response or even within hours by directly contacting the media the same click of the mouse that sent the email to his boss could have sent the email to the media the same calls to the government could have also been made to the media several of the volunteer search and rescue teams also have websites, phones, and offices where he could have gone and made a fuss until someone listened

what said was that in these countries if he failed to report it fast enough or lied he can not only face humiliation in the media but also death penalty as well as massive lawsuits from families
 
2014-03-13 01:13:39 AM  
I saw a dog fall down.
 
2014-03-13 11:15:27 AM  

Solid Muldoon: I saw a dog fall down.


That's nice, dear. Now go wash your face.
 
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