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(Boston.com)   Mysterious disappearance of Malaysian airline gets slightly less mysterious as worker on an oil rig platform of the coast of Vietnam sends an e-mail to his bosses saying he saw a flaming jetliner plunge into the sea   (boston.com) divider line 206
    More: Interesting, Malaysia, Vietnam, Malaysia Airlines, jetliner, DigitalGlobe, Judy Woodruff, South China Sea, Gulf of Thailand  
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2014-03-12 02:39:07 PM

Killer Cars: Sticky Hands: Like the rumor that it was hijacked by the co-pilot, and the Malaysian military has known where it is all along because they shot it down?

That would be a better "look" for the Malaysian military compared to whatever the hell they've been doing since.

Maybe I'm conflating some of the earlier hoaxes/unconfirmed reports and being too hard on them as a result, but a 6 year old drawing lines on an etch-o-sketch would produce more consistent flight paths, coordinates, and basic narratives than they've produced.


Like this?

assets.nydailynews.com
 
2014-03-12 02:39:15 PM

rynthetyn: My sister's aviation engineer inlaw seems to think that Boeing and the airline have a better idea of what's what than they're saying but that they aren't wanting to admit that they know because if they do their stock prices are going to plummet faster than the plane did.


The 777 has an enviable safety record. I would be really shocked if Boeing were trying to cover something up. The resulting fallout would be far greater than simply stating what happened and what is being done to prevent it from happening again.
 
2014-03-12 02:39:41 PM

Valiente: Datanerd: I keep thinking that this is going to turn out like the Egyptair 777 that caught fire on the ground.  Electronics caught fire, copilots oxygen supply feeds fire, fire extinguisher is insufficient to put fire out.  Radio and transponder get shut off to try to control the fire or they burn up.  On the ground you can evacuate.  In the air, you, well, can't use oxygen in the cockpit where the fire is, but you've got a fire burning through the skin of the plane, eventually depressurizing, meanwhile inherent stability keeps the plane in the air even without the autopilot until it starts getting pulled apart when the burn hole gets big enough.  See AvHerald's article for more info.

I tried to finish with a joke but I just can't.  Sorry FARK.  I disappoint.

Like SwissAir 111, you mean?

Damn, I seem to have a good memory for flying, then plummeting, tragedy.


Swissair 111 was a slightly different source (IFE system and flammable insulation) and a completely different aircraft.  It crashed intact.  But this case could have gone that way too.  I'm just guessing that this one tore apart in the air.
 
2014-03-12 02:40:54 PM
Whatchoo Talkinbout:

Many large pieces made it to the sea more or less intact. Similarly the shuttle was traveling at 17,000 MPH and reentering the atmosphere when it left many large and heavy pieces intact to hit Texas. Something made it down, something is floating. Carry on the mystery.

18 times the speed of light!
sprott.physics.wisc.edu
 
2014-03-12 02:42:14 PM

James10952001: rynthetyn: My sister's aviation engineer inlaw seems to think that Boeing and the airline have a better idea of what's what than they're saying but that they aren't wanting to admit that they know because if they do their stock prices are going to plummet faster than the plane did.

The 777 has an enviable safety record. I would be really shocked if Boeing were trying to cover something up. The resulting fallout would be far greater than simply stating what happened and what is being done to prevent it from happening again.


The only people capable of creating any sort of cover-up would be the Malaysian government, but that's unlikely given the multinational searching going on.
 
2014-03-12 02:43:26 PM
Buoyancy be damned, I am thinking AirPort 77 is the answer to this mystery.

www.jimusnr.com
 
2014-03-12 02:44:58 PM
I blame Mugato.

media.giphy.com
 
2014-03-12 02:45:06 PM

HenryFnord: Whatchoo Talkinbout:

Many large pieces made it to the sea more or less intact. Similarly the shuttle was traveling at 17,000 MPH and reentering the atmosphere when it left many large and heavy pieces intact to hit Texas. Something made it down, something is floating. Carry on the mystery.

18 times the speed of light!
[sprott.physics.wisc.edu image 371x282]


TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!!!

/whew, was worried that I wouldn't be able to snark anymore.
 
2014-03-12 02:45:39 PM

cgraves67: Well, the guy could be wrong, but hey, there are dozens of ships and planes combing the sea for the wreckage. What's the harm in sending one over to that area for a looksie?


Well, the last one that went over to that area fell flaming from the sky, apparently.  Would you want to be on the next one?
 
2014-03-12 02:45:43 PM

rynthetyn: My sister's aviation engineer inlaw seems to think that Boeing and the airline have a better idea of what's what than they're saying but that they aren't wanting to admit that they know because if they do their stock prices are going to plummet faster than the plane did.


Your sister's inlaw is a conspiracy theory nutjob, and probably not a very good aviation engineer.....
 
2014-03-12 02:45:47 PM
or there's this Spoiler Alert...

barnaclebutt.files.wordpress.com

They're all dead.
 
2014-03-12 02:47:50 PM

Brick-House: or there's this Spoiler Alert...

[barnaclebutt.files.wordpress.com image 850x652]

They're all dead.


At this point in the Lost chronology, they were all still alive.

/and it was still good.
 
2014-03-12 02:50:52 PM

rynthetyn: My sister's aviation engineer inlaw seems to think that


My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw the missing jet pass over 31 Flavors last night in flames. I guess it's pretty serious.
 
2014-03-12 02:52:15 PM
OMG! I just accidentally a whole plan!
 
2014-03-12 02:52:48 PM

Bungles: Brick-House: or there's this Spoiler Alert...

[barnaclebutt.files.wordpress.com image 850x652]

They're all dead.

At this point in the Lost chronology, they were all still alive.

/and it was still good.


Damn you Ana Lucia for being such a biatch that they had to kill Libby as well to stop the fans from partying.

I still can't stand Michelle Rodriguez.
 
2014-03-12 02:52:53 PM
Here is an oil platform from the tomnod.com
http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/23991
 
2014-03-12 02:53:32 PM

Deep Contact: I'm the first to report a meteor hit the plane in the perfect spot to avoid explosion but take it down.


Actually, CNN earlier today had the "hit by meteor" theory...
 
2014-03-12 02:56:06 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: It could be a hoax, yes, Bob, you magnificent expert on all things.  Or not.  So send a goddamn plane out to the coordinates he described, adjusted for currents, and see what you see.

Seriously - who do they have looking for this thing?  Mr. Magoo?


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-12 02:57:29 PM
For the love of god somebody inform CNN.
 
2014-03-12 02:57:57 PM

stonicus: Deep Contact: I'm the first to report a meteor hit the plane in the perfect spot to avoid explosion but take it down.

Actually, CNN earlier today had the "hit by meteor" theory...


A jet being hit by a meteor is no more unlikely that any area the same size being hit my a meteor - and millions upon millions such areas have been. It's outlandish, but firmly within the grounds of reality (unlike landing a plane on a secret island, a la Bond,).
 
2014-03-12 02:58:14 PM
Who are the idiots who put together these "hoaxes" so quickly? Just seems like a serious mental imbalance to see a tragedy and immediately jump online to put together a "hilarious" hoax about it.
 
2014-03-12 03:00:10 PM

Prophet of Loss: Subject: Weekly update

Dear Boss Guy,

I cleaned out the intake like you wanted. Everything is running smoothly.

Sum Yung Dude

PS: We are almost out of coffee tea, rice, and rat meat
PPS: I saw a flaming plane crash into the ocean


amirite?
 
2014-03-12 03:00:54 PM
Bungles:
A jet being hit by a meteor is no more unlikely that any area the same size being hit my a meteor - and millions upon millions such areas have been. It's outlandish, but firmly within the grounds of reality (unlike landing a plane on a secret island, a la Bond,).

Actually, I would think a jet has a slightly better chance, given less thick atmosphere to burn up small meteorites.
 
2014-03-12 03:01:01 PM

telejester: PreMortem: telejester: PreMortem: Why would aliens stage a catastrophy? No good reason.

Ruby Thewes can spell better than you.

I've conceded my spelling to my phone, which underlines in red any misspelled words. It did not. Your argument is invalid.

I beg to differ:

I can spell it, too. Learned it the same place you did, in the school room. One of the first words they taught me. "Ruby Thewes, you are a c-a-t-a-s-t-r-o-p-h-e!"


It's Cat Ass Trophy, damn it.
images.lazygamer.net
 
2014-03-12 03:02:16 PM

rynthetyn: jaytkay: rynthetyn: I have in my address book several Vietnamese government employees who are using hotmail or yahoo accounts for work email, so it's not that big a stretch that employees of a Vietnamese oil company might do the same.

I have corresponded with a prince and several former government officials from Nigeria who use Hotmail.

 These are people I know in real life.


I know, but the setup for the joke could not be resisted
 
2014-03-12 03:03:01 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: rynthetyn: My sister's aviation engineer inlaw seems to think that Boeing and the airline have a better idea of what's what than they're saying but that they aren't wanting to admit that they know because if they do their stock prices are going to plummet faster than the plane did.

Your sister's inlaw is a conspiracy theory nutjob, and probably not a very good aviation engineer.....


img.fark.net


/I've been waiting to see a comment from you again
//I am posting this as a funny joke and I hope you think it's funny too that I am following up from yesterday
///don't really kill yourself
 
2014-03-12 03:03:41 PM

Datanerd: I keep thinking that this is going to turn out like the Egyptair 777 that caught fire on the ground.  Electronics caught fire, copilots oxygen supply feeds fire, fire extinguisher is insufficient to put fire out.  Radio and transponder get shut off to try to control the fire or they burn up.  On the ground you can evacuate.  In the air, you, well, can't use oxygen in the cockpit where the fire is, but you've got a fire burning through the skin of the plane, eventually depressurizing, meanwhile inherent stability keeps the plane in the air even without the autopilot until it starts getting pulled apart when the burn hole gets big enough.  See AvHerald's article for more info.

I tried to finish with a joke but I just can't.  Sorry FARK.  I disappoint.



cdnl.complex.com
 
2014-03-12 03:04:00 PM

stonicus: Deep Contact: I'm the first to report a meteor hit the plane in the perfect spot to avoid explosion but take it down.

Actually, CNN earlier today had the "hit by meteor" theory...


Where do you think they got it from?
 
2014-03-12 03:06:29 PM
s2.hubimg.com
 
2014-03-12 03:06:59 PM

Danger Mouse: Bf+: vpb: It could easily be a hoax.  Internet hoaxers have gotten good at paying attention to detail.

Disappearing an entire plane?  Now that's some hoax!
Waaaaiiiiit a minute... Where's David Copperfield during all this?


On his private island raping a plane full of asian chicks.


Why would he rape the plane, when he could just rape the asian chicks?
 
2014-03-12 03:07:20 PM

SDRR: Benevolent Misanthrope: It could be a hoax, yes, Bob, you magnificent expert on all things.  Or not.  So send a goddamn plane out to the coordinates he described, adjusted for currents, and see what you see.

Seriously - who do they have looking for this thing?  Mr. Magoo?

[img.fark.net image 225x225]


Oh, yes. It is obvious to my trained eye, that there is much more going on here than meets the ear.
 
2014-03-12 03:08:33 PM
According to an "Air Safety Official" on NPR there was a service note put out that there were cracks found in another 777 around the antenna array. The airline in question had the aircraft serviced recently, but also said (somewhere) that more service was required. Her supposition was that the cracks caused a decompression failure, taking off the antennas. She followed up stating that the aircraft automatically goes into a survival mode, automatically shutting down every system but flight controls. Seems odd to me to turn off transponders and radio equipment, but I didn't have a hand in the "survival mode".
 
2014-03-12 03:10:04 PM

exvaxman: According to an "Air Safety Official" on NPR there was a service note put out that there were cracks found in another 777 around the antenna array. The airline in question had the aircraft serviced recently, but also said (somewhere) that more service was required. Her supposition was that the cracks caused a decompression failure, taking off the antennas. She followed up stating that the aircraft automatically goes into a survival mode, automatically shutting down every system but flight controls. Seems odd to me to turn off transponders and radio equipment, but I didn't have a hand in the "survival mode".


Different model of antenna.  Not applicable to this plane.
 
2014-03-12 03:10:29 PM

exvaxman: According to an "Air Safety Official" on NPR there was a service note put out that there were cracks found in another 777 around the antenna array. The airline in question had the aircraft serviced recently, but also said (somewhere) that more service was required. Her supposition was that the cracks caused a decompression failure, taking off the antennas. She followed up stating that the aircraft automatically goes into a survival mode, automatically shutting down every system but flight controls. Seems odd to me to turn off transponders and radio equipment, but I didn't have a hand in the "survival mode".


I'm not sure there is a single commercial airline model that doesn't have a fistful of service notes.
 
2014-03-12 03:14:55 PM

the_sidewinder: [i00.i.aliimg.com image 850x637]


Clever image. I suppose you have to be from the right part of the country to recognize those objects as what they are.
 
2014-03-12 03:21:03 PM
i.space.com
 
2014-03-12 03:24:30 PM

exvaxman: According to an "Air Safety Official" on NPR there was a service note put out that there were cracks found in another 777 around the antenna array. The airline in question had the aircraft serviced recently, but also said (somewhere) that more service was required. Her supposition was that the cracks caused a decompression failure, taking off the antennas. She followed up stating that the aircraft automatically goes into a survival mode, automatically shutting down every system but flight controls. Seems odd to me to turn off transponders and radio equipment, but I didn't have a hand in the "survival mode".


I take back my earlier comment - I can't find the original source.  I read somewhere that it didn't have the particular antenna and it was shown with pictures that there wasn't a hump there, but now I can't find it and I don't trust myself completely on this.
 
2014-03-12 03:25:04 PM

Oreamnos: the_sidewinder: [i00.i.aliimg.com image 850x637]

Clever image. I suppose you have to be from the right part of the country to recognize those objects as what they are.


Or you could just check out the image name.
 
2014-03-12 03:26:29 PM
Here are some of the previous documented problems with the missing airplane.

P: Left inside main tire almost needs replacement.
S: Almost replaced left inside main tire.

P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough.
S: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft.

P: Something loose in cockpit.
S: Something tightened in cockpit.

P: Dead bugs on windshield.
S: Live bugs on back-order.

P: Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200 feet per minute descent.
S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground.
Additional Details
P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear.
S: Evidence removed.

P: DME volume unbelievably loud.
S: DME volume set to more believable level.

P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick.
S: That's what friction locks are for.

P: IFF inoperative in OFF mode.
S: IFF always inoperative in OFF mode.

P: Suspected crack in windshield.
S: Suspect you're right.

P: Number 3 engine missing.
S: Engine found on right wing after brief search.

P: Aircraft handles funny. (I love this one!)
S: Aircraft warned to straighten up, fly right, and be serious.

P: Target radar hums.
S: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics.

P: Mouse in cockpit.
S: Cat installed.

P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget pounding
on something with a hammer.
 
2014-03-12 03:26:32 PM

Oreamnos: the_sidewinder: [i00.i.aliimg.com image 850x637]

Clever image. I suppose you have to be from the right part of the country to recognize those objects as what they are.



The... part of the country with mouseover abilities?
 
2014-03-12 03:31:05 PM
The plane was stolen and stripped down. Now comes the bodies in life jackets and carefully selected wreckage.
 
2014-03-12 03:32:07 PM

exvaxman: According to an "Air Safety Official" on NPR there was a service note put out that there were cracks found in another 777 around the antenna array. The airline in question had the aircraft serviced recently, but also said (somewhere) that more service was required. Her supposition was that the cracks caused a decompression failure, taking off the antennas. She followed up stating that the aircraft automatically goes into a survival mode, automatically shutting down every system but flight controls. Seems odd to me to turn off transponders and radio equipment, but I didn't have a hand in the "survival mode".


That doesn't sound right at all.
 
2014-03-12 03:32:13 PM
I've finally settled on my conspiracy theory;
With all the disputed island chains in the general area(the spratly's are a little far but there are others that are a bit closer)Imma gonna say one of the disputees; China, Japan, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Myanmar, India made an oopsie. All those countries are out there waving there navy dicks at each other saying "this is our hunk of rock in the middle of a natural gas field", with that many playas it's only a matter of time before someone gets jittery. So you have an airliner with a faulty/malfunctioning/disabled transponder that identifies it as a commercial jet flying into the region as an unidentified aircraft. Someone in it's flight path could of got nervous and launched  a missile. If the transponder was malfunctioning and it happened right at the time of transferring atc from malaysia to ho chi minh city it's conceivable that it just got unaccounted for. The unknown countries ship that shot it down is obviously first on the scene, sees the boo boo and scoops up any big debris in the immediate area, if the plane went down mostly intact and sank quickly there may have been very little debris to begin with. Now that ship is whistling as if nothing happened and is "assisting" in the search.
/That's my story.
 
2014-03-12 03:41:15 PM
"LET'S ROLL"
 
2014-03-12 03:42:46 PM

Triumph: The plane was stolen and stripped down. Now comes the bodies in life jackets and carefully selected wreckage.


media0.giphy.com
 
2014-03-12 03:44:33 PM

Obscene_CNN: Cute girls might be to blame for the missing plane (warning chinese dub over for a few seconds)   http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=131_1394631622


deleted due to copyright infringement
 
2014-03-12 03:47:27 PM

HenryFnord: Whatchoo Talkinbout:

Many large pieces made it to the sea more or less intact. Similarly the shuttle was traveling at 17,000 MPH and reentering the atmosphere when it left many large and heavy pieces intact to hit Texas. Something made it down, something is floating. Carry on the mystery.

18 times the speed of light!
[sprott.physics.wisc.edu image 371x282]


CNN says it, I believe it. Einstein would like a word with them.
 
2014-03-12 03:50:19 PM

Pinner: Whatchoo Talkinbout: gaslight: Well, a plane breaking apart at tens of thousands of feet in the sky, travelling at hundreds of miles per hour would result in confetti. The forces at work on the aluminum, steel, carbon fibre and plastic would likely spread the débris over a large area and in many small pieces. It may well be that the area was searched before but the pieces were too small to have been spotted from the air.

Anyone remember how a fuel tank spark destroyed a plane flying from New York to Paris a few years ago? It may have been as "simple" as that.

Many large pieces made it to the sea more or less intact. Similarly the shuttle was traveling at 17,000 MPH and reentering the atmosphere when it left many large and heavy pieces intact to hit Texas. Something made it down, something is floating. Carry on the mystery.

No doubt. Rocket fuel is going to eat debris way faster than jet fuel on the way down.
There would have to be something floating in the sea.
Unless those fart-sponge seat cushions exploded too.


One night only, the Fart-Sponge Seat Cushions.  Couldn't help myself.
 
2014-03-12 03:51:13 PM

SurfaceTension: abhorrent1: A hotmail address to a gmail address? It's an oil company. They can't afford company email addresses?



Seems to me like it would be inappropriate for someone to send a personal email (like a description of a burning plane, which has nothing to do with work) to Vietnamese authorities on a work email address.
 
2014-03-12 03:52:21 PM

Deep Contact: [i.space.com image 575x383]


A starship warping out of orbit?
 
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