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2014-03-12 01:02:21 PM
Lawyer: (blaming Americans) "but once they are actually highly successful, we do almost everything we can to destory their lives."

(Their typo, not mine - good job, NBC)

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say his parents - since they bought him the alcohol, gave him the drugs, and were present when he was doing this are doing a far better job of destroying the kid's life than the American public is.
 
2014-03-12 01:12:44 PM
If affluenza is caused by molly coddling and there never being consequences for actions then the best cure for affluenza is to throw the book at him.
 
2014-03-12 01:13:06 PM
Sorry Bieber's lawyer but it was his parents that failed him.
 
2014-03-12 01:13:21 PM
Bieber, a victim. Yeah, right. Poor little baby, awwwwwwww.
 
2014-03-12 01:14:17 PM
Quarantine him.
 
2014-03-12 01:15:15 PM
Is he really saying that this sort of behavior is demanded of those with celebrity status in the U.S.?  Does that mean the real victim here is Charlie Sheen?  LOOK WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO CARLOS ESTEVEZ!
 
2014-03-12 01:15:43 PM
Maybe if Bieber didn't act like a self-centered, self-entitled little douchecanoe, the paparazzi wouldn't have such an infatuation with him. People would lose interest in these stories.

But that still doesn't excuse some of the other things...like egging his neighbor's house or the DUI / drag racing / whatever charges that he's got pending.

He needs to be set adrift.
 
2014-03-12 01:16:41 PM
Autostart video that you can't stop or mute?  fark that site.
 
2014-03-12 01:17:18 PM
Canada, we understand you don't want him back.
 
2014-03-12 01:17:52 PM

Evil Mackerel: Quarantine him.


 .. a lot.
 
2014-03-12 01:19:08 PM
With the court cases against him, he really should have had his work visa revoked by now and deported from the US.
 
2014-03-12 01:20:12 PM

limeyfellow: With the court cases against him, he really should have had his work visa revoked by now and deported from the US.


I hear Canada doesn't want him back, either.

And Mexico has enough douchebags like him in politics, so we don't want him here.
 
2014-03-12 01:20:19 PM

Dog Welder: Maybe if Bieber didn't act like a self-centered, self-entitled little douchecanoe, the paparazzi wouldn't have such an infatuation with him. People would lose interest in these stories.

But that still doesn't excuse some of the other things...like egging his neighbor's house or the DUI / drag racing / whatever charges that he's got pending.

He needs to be set adrift.


"Douchecanoe," I think I have a new favorite word.
 
2014-03-12 01:21:03 PM
The lawyer has a point... We DO love to roast our celebs on a bed of hot coals whenever we get the chance. An accusation is as good as a conviction to the Court of Public Opinion.

That said, plenty of celebs out there manage to avoid this, or even make a comeback from this. If Bieber wanted us to feel sorry for him at all, he wouldn't be reinforcing this image with dipshiat antics. While I can see the point that lawyer is trying to leverage into the conversation, I still fell no sympathy in this case, Bieber is asking for pretty much all of this shiatpile, and only getting worse.
 
2014-03-12 01:21:47 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-12 01:23:20 PM
Time to put Justin down, I will call the vet...
 
2014-03-12 01:25:38 PM
Isn't this an indictment of our entire Canadian society?
rothcpa.com
 
2014-03-12 01:27:37 PM
Simple cure for his affluenza - levy a fine that reduces his net worth to the average American (or Canadian) middle class youth of his age.  Problem solved!
 
2014-03-12 01:28:04 PM

Mikey1969: We DO love to roast our celebs on a bed of hot coals whenever we get the chance


Hardly.  Lindsay Lohan CARJACKED a bunch of people while she was out of her mind on coke, and took them on a high speed chase through downtown LA in hot pursuit of a woman she'd been intimidating.  I don't even think she did time for that.

If I did something like that I'd farking NEVER get out of jail.  Carjacking can potentially carry the death penalty in California if someone dies, but I bet you she wouldn't have done a year if she'd run down some woman and her kids while they were coming back from a Piano recital.

The idea that we do everything we can to mess these people up is ludicrous.  Their heads get WAY too big when they start making that kind of money and they start being able to do whatever petty shiat they like.  Once that pattern sets in they just run amok and most of them are never punished.  Roast indeed.
 
2014-03-12 01:29:01 PM
*Goes to add Bieber to celebrity death list, sees he's already on it*

Best guess is he doesn't live to see 2020.
 
2014-03-12 01:29:53 PM

serpent_sky: Lawyer: (blaming Americans) "but once they are actually highly successful, we do almost everything we can to destory their lives."

(Their typo, not mine - good job, NBC)

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say his parents - since they bought him the alcohol, gave him the drugs, and were present when he was doing this are doing a far better job of destroying the kid's life than the American public is.


Personally, I'd look forward to a successful defenestration of Mr. Bieber in the interests of destorying his notoriety.
 
2014-03-12 01:30:46 PM

Mikey1969: The lawyer has a point... We DO love to roast our celebs on a bed of hot coals whenever we get the chance. An accusation is as good as a conviction to the Court of Public Opinion.

That said, plenty of celebs out there manage to avoid this, or even make a comeback from this. If Bieber wanted us to feel sorry for him at all, he wouldn't be reinforcing this image with dipshiat antics. While I can see the point that lawyer is trying to leverage into the conversation, I still fell no sympathy in this case, Bieber is asking for pretty much all of this shiatpile, and only getting worse.


I dont really care much about him. For a while it just seemed like he was some kid from Canada that was the tween sensation of the day, he didnt seem like a bad kid. What was it a year ago he started acting like a dbag. I think what he did that pissed me off the most was when he pissed in the mop bucket. Thats some guys job now to clean up your piss you little shiat. I've mopped a bunch of floors in my life and doing that and posting it online and be proud of it was a dick move. I say let him burn.
 
2014-03-12 01:35:19 PM
YO U ALL JUST JELLY AND SHOULD BE ASHAMED. BIZZLE KEEPS ON KEEPIN ON AND HE ROCKED WITH SELENA LAST THURS. WHAT DID YOU DO THAT NIGHT? LET IT GO AND STOP STARING, YOULL BE A LOT HAPPIER. PEACE
 
2014-03-12 01:35:25 PM
Ahh...Xanax and alcohol. The cause and solution to all of life's problems.

What a sad society we live in that feels the need to blur reality instead of confronting it.

Sad.
 
2014-03-12 01:35:33 PM

Super_pope: Mikey1969: We DO love to roast our celebs on a bed of hot coals whenever we get the chance

Hardly.  Lindsay Lohan CARJACKED a bunch of people while she was out of her mind on coke, and took them on a high speed chase through downtown LA in hot pursuit of a woman she'd been intimidating.  I don't even think she did time for that.

If I did something like that I'd farking NEVER get out of jail.  Carjacking can potentially carry the death penalty in California if someone dies, but I bet you she wouldn't have done a year if she'd run down some woman and her kids while they were coming back from a Piano recital.

The idea that we do everything we can to mess these people up is ludicrous.  Their heads get WAY too big when they start making that kind of money and they start being able to do whatever petty shiat they like.  Once that pattern sets in they just run amok and most of them are never punished.  Roast indeed.


I didn't say that we did anything to mess them up, but the same people who crow about someone being innocent until proven guilty take a celeb and cry for the death penalty even if they don't get charged, let alone convicted. Deny it all you want, but it plays out here almost daily. I did not say that celebrities don't get themselves in trouble in the first place, just that all of the 'defenders of the common man' run to get the torches if the "common man" suddenly turns out to be a celebrity.

There's a difference between what I am saying and what you're implying.
 
2014-03-12 01:43:12 PM
The corn harvest should be epic this year.
 
2014-03-12 01:45:07 PM

Mikey1969: There's a difference between what I am saying and what you're implying.


And I'm saying they literally go out and commit SERIOUS offenses that sometimes carry 25+ years of jail time and don't even see the inside of a prison.  The fact that people suddenly don't like them anymore is basically valueless because they're already rich and they're SHAMELESSLY insulated from actual consequences.

Also an accusation is as good as a conviction in the court of public opinion because with someone like Beiber there's always 50 people filming him when he snorts blow and goes drag racing on a public street, or sucker punches a guy trying to take a picture with him or whatever.  Sure you're technically innocent until proven guilty but if there are 100+ vines of you doing something illegal... I mean... we know you did it.  You're guilty.
 
2014-03-12 01:55:24 PM

Super_pope: Mikey1969: There's a difference between what I am saying and what you're implying.

And I'm saying they literally go out and commit SERIOUS offenses that sometimes carry 25+ years of jail time and don't even see the inside of a prison.  The fact that people suddenly don't like them anymore is basically valueless because they're already rich and they're SHAMELESSLY insulated from actual consequences.

Also an accusation is as good as a conviction in the court of public opinion because with someone like Beiber there's always 50 people filming him when he snorts blow and goes drag racing on a public street, or sucker punches a guy trying to take a picture with him or whatever.  Sure you're technically innocent until proven guilty but if there are 100+ vines of you doing something illegal... I mean... we know you did it.  You're guilty.


So that's why he wasn't actually drag racing?
http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/31/justin-bieber-gps-drag-racing/

This is all the point I'm trying to make. I don't care about Bieber personally one way or the other, but the "Florida drag racing" thing is a great example.
 
2014-03-12 02:02:49 PM
1) Build impossible hero
2) Angst that hero is human
3) Profit

Don't look too closely at the folks feeling superior about themselves after mocking a 20 year old kid for doing 20 year old kid stuff. It is a bitter reality check.
 
2014-03-12 02:03:18 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-12 02:03:31 PM
Some people seem to know how to manage celebrity better than others. Justin Beiber isn't one of them.
You can't cash in on fame then complain about being famous.
 
2014-03-12 02:05:12 PM

serpent_sky: Lawyer: (blaming Americans) "but once they are actually highly successful, we do almost everything we can to destory their lives."

(Their typo, not mine - good job, NBC)

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say his parents - since they bought him the alcohol, gave him the drugs, and were present when he was doing this are doing a far better job of destroying the kid's life than the American public is.


If the will of the American public were enough to destroy a celebrity's life, why is Donald "Hair Force One" Trump still going strong?
 
2014-03-12 02:07:56 PM
CANADA

The Good
Poutine
Curling
Dan Aykroyd
Maple syrup
Rush
Strange Brew


The Bad

Bieber
Celine Dion

Game over, Canada.
 
2014-03-12 02:07:59 PM

serpent_sky: Lawyer: (blaming Americans) "but once they are actually highly successful, we do almost everything we can to destory their lives."

(Their typo, not mine - good job, NBC)

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say his parents - since they bought him the alcohol, gave him the drugs, and were present when he was doing this are doing a far better job of destroying the kid's life than the American public is.


If I recall, his mom is pretty well grounded. His father is the one who wants to be the party buddy and hobnob with
all of his boy's celebrity friends.

If I recall.

/ don't care enough about Bieber to waste my Google Fu
 
2014-03-12 02:09:55 PM

Greylight: 1) Build impossible hero
2) Angst that hero is human
3) Profit

Don't look too closely at the folks feeling superior about themselves after mocking a 20 year old kid for doing 20 year old kid stuff. It is a bitter reality check.


Some of it, yeah it's just a dumbfark kid being a dumbfark kid.

But a LOT of it?  Nope, d-canoe all the way.
 
2014-03-12 02:11:30 PM
Norman Osborn is bieber's lawyer?
 
2014-03-12 02:15:32 PM
I think the lawyer has an incomplete theory.  People only seem to want to destroy the careers of celebrities who don't contribute anything artistically (or materially) to the world.  There isn't a mass movement to get rid of George Clooney or Ryan Gosling.
 
2014-03-12 02:16:14 PM

"I'm the victim here!", screams rich, callous douchebag.

 
2014-03-12 02:32:32 PM
groppet : I think what he did that pissed me off the most was when he pissed in the mop bucket. Thats some guys job now to clean up your piss you little shiat. I've mopped a bunch of floors in my life and doing that and posting it online and be proud of it was a dick move. I say let him burn.

That did it for me, too. What the heck kind of a dirtbag does something like that? This boy ain't nothing but walking talking low classed white trash. Get him the flying fark outta here.

This lawyers argument is a reach, because there are thousands of young celebrities marching around that have managed to avoid pissing in mop buckets. But he ain't totally wrong either--scumbag boy's celebrity has made him wealthy enough to hire bodyguards. Because if this a-hole wasn't protected by those bodyguards, somebody would already have given him an attitude adjustment that would have required medical attention.
 
2014-03-12 02:33:33 PM

Dog Welder: Maybe if Bieber didn't act like a self-centered, self-entitled little douchecanoe, the paparazzi wouldn't have such an infatuation with him. People would lose interest in these stories.

But that still doesn't excuse some of the other things...like egging his neighbor's house or the DUI / drag racing / whatever charges that he's got pending.

He needs to be set adrift.


If this moron was spending his time building homes for Habitat for Humanity, going to bed early, and pushing for clean water projects in isolated areas in the world he'd never see one bad word printed about himself.

Instead he's acting like a reckless teenager... sure, he's still young, but the fact is he doesn't seem like he has anything acting like a brake on his hard partying self centered ways. He's the living embodiment of what you get if you find the biggest douchenozzle frat boy and hand him incredible wealth and fame.

He's not going to get the message by the system handling him with kid gloves. There's times to go easy and there's times to smack them upside the head. Unfortunately, the system seems to love coddling stars like this... it's why so many of them end up dead. They never hear the word "no" until they've gone too far and somebody (often themselves) is dead.
 
2014-03-12 02:35:31 PM
Simply possessing an invalid licence is an offense in Florida? I've always kept my expired ones after renewal...
 
2014-03-12 02:40:01 PM
This kid who did nothing except try to be a success in music has turned his life at times into a nightmare," he said. "And you wonder why he sometimes fights back against it."

Right, we're supposed to stand up and adore the guy who's cronies come into a Waffle House in Salisbury, NC and demand that everyone turn off their cell phones and not to make contact before his highness comes in for smothered and covered hash browns, or when he tries to start a fight with a DJ and then runs behind his body guards or when he's photographed being carried across the Great Wall of China like he's Stewie Griffin.

If America is the root of his problems then by all means send his little cracker arse back to Canada where he belongs.
 
2014-03-12 02:41:30 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: CANADA

The Good
Poutine
Curling
Dan Aykroyd
Maple syrup
Rush
Strange Brew


The Bad
Bieber
Celine Dion

Game over, Canada.


We have better beer and hotter chicks, too; let's not forget the important stuff.
 
2014-03-12 02:45:54 PM

Mikey1969: So that's why he wasn't actually drag racing?
http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/31/justin-bieber-gps-drag-racing/

This is all the point I'm trying to make. I don't care about Bieber personally one way or the other, but the "Florida drag racing" thing is a great example.


The GPS report there does not show acceleration rate; just a speed sample at one point.  Drag racing is typically defined as racing against another car or racing against a clock.  So, basically, any rapid acceleration - even by yourself - can be called "drag racing" if the cop really wants to stick it to you, and "rapid acceleration" is pretty much up to the cop to define.  Speeding is a separate offense.  If you'd like, I can show you the police report which accompanies the drag racing ticket I received about 20 years ago wherein the arresting officer agrees with my claim that I was not exceeding the 35MPH speed limit.

What actually happened?  I was driving next to another car in first gear, and "blipped the throttle" - basically punched it and let off to make the front end jump up.  The other car did the same.  We did that back and forth 2-3 times.  No other cars on the 4-lane road late at night, no people around, and we were still more than 10MPH below the speed limit by the end.  And we both got drag racing tickets (probably more for the loud exhaust and somewhat flashy cars; a couple of Chevy Celebrities would not have attracted quite as much attention).  We were behaving foolishly, yes, and I don't contest the validity of the ticket.  But the point is that drag racing does not require speeding.  And maybe that dumb kids do dumb things. :)
 
2014-03-12 02:46:34 PM

CygnusDarius: Canada, we understand you don't want him back.


Yeah, but they've got Rob Ford acting all Drunky McDrunk, so...

What about Greenland? Very remote, not very many people, cold as Hell, etc.
 
2014-03-12 02:47:21 PM
Because there are not numerous other celebrities who get as much attention and aren't complete douchebags, so, must be this incessant public attention!
 
2014-03-12 02:51:18 PM
Fark him is his poor, deprived canuk ass.

We got black teens in prison for holding a joint a cop planted on them
 
2014-03-12 02:56:35 PM

dannysauer: Mikey1969: So that's why he wasn't actually drag racing?
http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/31/justin-bieber-gps-drag-racing/

This is all the point I'm trying to make. I don't care about Bieber personally one way or the other, but the "Florida drag racing" thing is a great example.

The GPS report there does not show acceleration rate; just a speed sample at one point.  Drag racing is typically defined as racing against another car or racing against a clock.  So, basically, any rapid acceleration - even by yourself - can be called "drag racing" if the cop really wants to stick it to you, and "rapid acceleration" is pretty much up to the cop to define.  Speeding is a separate offense.  If you'd like, I can show you the police report which accompanies the drag racing ticket I received about 20 years ago wherein the arresting officer agrees with my claim that I was not exceeding the 35MPH speed limit.

What actually happened?  I was driving next to another car in first gear, and "blipped the throttle" - basically punched it and let off to make the front end jump up.  The other car did the same.  We did that back and forth 2-3 times.  No other cars on the 4-lane road late at night, no people around, and we were still more than 10MPH below the speed limit by the end.  And we both got drag racing tickets (probably more for the loud exhaust and somewhat flashy cars; a couple of Chevy Celebrities would not have attracted quite as much attention).  We were behaving foolishly, yes, and I don't contest the validity of the ticket.  But the point is that drag racing does not require speeding.  And maybe that dumb kids do dumb things. :)


Here's the relevant part from that page:
Cops claim they noticed the drag race on the 2600 block of Pine Tree Drive.  Bieber came to a stop and was then arrested on the 4100 block.  The 27 MPH read out is on the 3700 block ... smack in the middle of the supposed drag race.  Mind you ... 27 MPH is UNDER the 30 MPH speed limit.


So the fastest they went was 27 MPH. That's not drag racing. Hell, if he lit up the tires, they'd be spinning faster than that. Face it, he wasn't drag racing. Hell, the Escalade wasn't even 'blocking traffic' as was claimed.
 
2014-03-12 02:57:39 PM
Lawyer is loving this systematic destruction of his client because he gets to bill for his time.
 
2014-03-12 03:01:46 PM
He used to be such a nice boy.  Why is he acting like a ghetto thug?  Is he hanging around some new friends or someth-

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bossip.files.wordpress.com

i.perezhilton.com

data2.whicdn.com

poponthepop.com

i.imgur.com

....... oh.
 
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