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(TwinCities.com)   Minneapolis potholes have gotten so big that they're killing motorcyclists   (twincities.com) divider line 87
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2014-03-12 09:04:41 AM  
What the hell is a Long Island douchebag doing on a motorcycle in MN in March? Idiot.
 
2014-03-12 12:32:58 PM  
394 is a disaster.

IgG4: What the hell is a Long Island douchebag doing on a motorcycle in MN in March? Idiot.


He worked at 3M, had moved here at some point, according to another article.
Weather was nice (50's), but the crews need some time to patch up the roads. Maybe this was his first winter here.
If he'd driven that stretch of road at any time in the last 3 months, however, he should have known not to attempt a motorcycle ride there.
 
2014-03-12 01:00:52 PM  
News of the "duh"
 
2014-03-12 01:01:18 PM  
Surprised 911 responded based on previous article about this sort of thing.
 
2014-03-12 01:02:48 PM  
You say that like it's a bad thing
 
2014-03-12 01:03:08 PM  

tlars699: Surprised 911 responded based on previous article about this sort of thing.


thread over.
 
2014-03-12 01:04:26 PM  
Ahhh, Minneapolis. One of the frontage roads near my house has a big sign reading "Pavement Failure." This is their way of saying "Good luck driving, farkers"
 
2014-03-12 01:08:32 PM  
Witnesses at the scene reported the motorcyclist "didn't want no pickle".
 
2014-03-12 01:09:33 PM  
Maybe if his pipes were louder this wouldn't have happened.
 
2014-03-12 01:11:35 PM  

tlars699: Surprised 911 responded based on previous article about this sort of thing.


To be fair, 911 did respond by sending squad car in the previous article about this sort of thing, but a lot of people never made it past the headline.
 
2014-03-12 01:12:04 PM  

Itchy Feets: Ahhh, Minneapolis. One of the frontage roads near my house has a big sign reading "Pavement Failure." This is their way of saying "Good luck driving, farkers"


but but but..  ALL MANITOBANS KNOW that every single road in  Minneapolis is paved perfectly and there are never any problems at all!
 
2014-03-12 01:12:09 PM  
Im all for winter rides, but there are limits, dude...
 
2014-03-12 01:13:03 PM  
I quit biking shortly after my front tire missed a pothole that would have sent me flying or sliding.  Missed it by an inch.  Decided between idiot car drivers and potholes, the "freedom" of the road wasn't worth it.
 
2014-03-12 01:14:45 PM  
no fan of motorcycles here, but that really sucks.

/motorcycles are everywhere!!!!
 
2014-03-12 01:15:20 PM  
Anyone on a motorcycle in the Midwest this time of year is a damned fool.

Give it a month or so to warm up, let the salt & sand get washed away by some rain, and the city/state some time to fill in the annual pothole crop. Idjit.
 
2014-03-12 01:15:48 PM  
How big was the hole?

/waits for snarky answers...
 
2014-03-12 01:18:43 PM  

bighairyguy: You say that like it's a bad thing


Fark you
 
2014-03-12 01:19:21 PM  

Evil Mackerel: Maybe if his pipes were louder this wouldn't have happened.


Fark you too
 
2014-03-12 01:20:28 PM  

tallguywithglasseson: 394 is a disaster.

IgG4: What the hell is a Long Island douchebag doing on a motorcycle in MN in March? Idiot.

He worked at 3M, had moved here at some point, according to another article.
Weather was nice (50's), but the crews need some time to patch up the roads. Maybe this was his first winter here.
If he'd driven that stretch of road at any time in the last 3 months, however, he should have known not to attempt a motorcycle ride there.


This.
 
2014-03-12 01:20:29 PM  
911 pothole trifecta in play.  This has to be a first.
 
2014-03-12 01:22:46 PM  
Ottawa mocks your tiny holes, Minneapolis ..

ottawa.ctvnews.ca
 
2014-03-12 01:23:38 PM  
Will not be on my bike until all the snow and ice is off the road and the majority of repairs are made.

The rider in question was dumb, or ill informed about our roads at the least, but he didn't deserve to die.
 
2014-03-12 01:24:35 PM  
According to a more detailed Star Tribune article:

"Three witnesses said that Baskaran and another motorcyclist were going at least 100 mph, and possibly as high as 120 mph, said Patrol Lt. Jason Bartell."

and:

"Baskaran was not wearing a helmet, state safety officials said"

which isn't a good combination on that road at this time of year.
 
2014-03-12 01:30:02 PM  
As a new motorcycle rider, potholes are at the top of my list of things to avoid. Its actually the thick reflective crosswalks that get me more nervous. I worry about the coefficient of friction of those strips being much less than the pavement.

Any farkers have new rider tips?

/Got tired of living a sheltered life watching other people do what I always wanted to do.
//Actively managing risk while getting out there and trying new things.
///Longboard skateboard and surfing next.
////Talks of skydiving. Not real firm plan yet.
 
2014-03-12 01:31:27 PM  

lemurs: According to a more detailed Star Tribune article:

"Three witnesses said that Baskaran and another motorcyclist were going at least 100 mph, and possibly as high as 120 mph, said Patrol Lt. Jason Bartell."

and:

"Baskaran was not wearing a helmet, state safety officials said"

which isn't a good combination on that road at this time of year.


Or any time of year really
 
2014-03-12 01:32:22 PM  
It was 50 degrees here yesterday and yes, I saw a motorcycle out riding.  Same thing applies here, roads are in despicable condition, snowbanks are still everywhere and even more dangerous with the sloped & hardened bottom edge waiting to toss any fool on two wheels (bikes as well as motorcyclists) on their sides if they have to go wide around any cagers.  Not to mention acres of loose scree in the form of salt and sand everywhere there isn't enough traffic to wear and blow it away.  Throw in pot holes lurking in puddles of snow melt.  With snow still very highly visible (and let's not forget cars that haven't been washed all winter), visibility is limited for drivers who like it or not, simply are not thinking of even the remotest possibility that might be a motorcycle coming out from behind that snowbank.
 
2014-03-12 01:32:34 PM  

Coastalgrl: As a new motorcycle rider, potholes are at the top of my list of things to avoid. Its actually the thick reflective crosswalks that get me more nervous. I worry about the coefficient of friction of those strips being much less than the pavement.

Any farkers have new rider tips?

/Got tired of living a sheltered life watching other people do what I always wanted to do.
//Actively managing risk while getting out there and trying new things.
///Longboard skateboard and surfing next.
////Talks of skydiving. Not real firm plan yet.


Don't do 120 without a helmet on a pothole infested freeway?
 
2014-03-12 01:34:19 PM  

Coastalgrl: As a new motorcycle rider, potholes are at the top of my list of things to avoid. Its actually the thick reflective crosswalks that get me more nervous. I worry about the coefficient of friction of those strips being much less than the pavement.

Any farkers have new rider tips?

/Got tired of living a sheltered life watching other people do what I always wanted to do.
//Actively managing risk while getting out there and trying new things.
///Longboard skateboard and surfing next.
////Talks of skydiving. Not real firm plan yet.


Take a safe rider class.

Ride away from traffic for a long time until you are comfortable with it.

Avoid the interstates.

Don't ride within an hour of sunrise and sunset if there are deer in your area.

Never consume alcohol before riding.

Warm clothes and rain gear.
 
2014-03-12 01:36:56 PM  

Coastalgrl: As a new motorcycle rider, potholes are at the top of my list of things to avoid. Its actually the thick reflective crosswalks that get me more nervous. I worry about the coefficient of friction of those strips being much less than the pavement.

Any farkers have new rider tips?

/Got tired of living a sheltered life watching other people do what I always wanted to do.
//Actively managing risk while getting out there and trying new things.
///Longboard skateboard and surfing next.
////Talks of skydiving. Not real firm plan yet.


And most importantly, any car you see while on a bike does not see you and is actively trying to kill you.
 
2014-03-12 01:39:35 PM  

sgnilward: Coastalgrl: As a new motorcycle rider, potholes are at the top of my list of things to avoid. Its actually the thick reflective crosswalks that get me more nervous. I worry about the coefficient of friction of those strips being much less than the pavement.

Any farkers have new rider tips?

/Got tired of living a sheltered life watching other people do what I always wanted to do.
//Actively managing risk while getting out there and trying new things.
///Longboard skateboard and surfing next.
////Talks of skydiving. Not real firm plan yet.

And most importantly, any car you see while on a bike does not see you and is actively trying to kill you.


This goes for bicycles as well.
 
2014-03-12 01:41:04 PM  

lemurs: According to a more detailed Star Tribune article:

"Three witnesses said that Baskaran and another motorcyclist were going at least 100 mph, and possibly as high as 120 mph, said Patrol Lt. Jason Bartell."

and:

"Baskaran was not wearing a helmet, state safety officials said"

which isn't a good combination on that road at this time of year.


That was my first thought... I know MN does not require mandatory helmets on motorcycles and most of the time I've been back home it's rare to actually see anybody on a motorcycle with a decent full face helmet or decent leathers.  The combination of speed, night, and lack of safety gear is a good recipe for a fatal motorcycle crash.
 
2014-03-12 01:48:08 PM  

sgnilward: Coastalgrl: As a new motorcycle rider, potholes are at the top of my list of things to avoid. Its actually the thick reflective crosswalks that get me more nervous. I worry about the coefficient of friction of those strips being much less than the pavement.

Any farkers have new rider tips?

/Got tired of living a sheltered life watching other people do what I always wanted to do.
//Actively managing risk while getting out there and trying new things.
///Longboard skateboard and surfing next.
////Talks of skydiving. Not real firm plan yet.

And most importantly, any car you see while on a bike does not see you and is actively trying to kill you.


Thanks. All good thoughts. The safe rider course is scheduled for this summer after classes. My main roads that I will be riding are town roads which are 4 lanes and no speed limit of 40. I would like to commute to campus and back on the bike and any longer rides or stormy days, use the car. Parking is a huge pain on campus but there is plenty of motorcycle parking. I live in FL so rain gear and assuming everyone is trying to kill me is a must.

At the moment, I'm riding beotch on my BF's Honda Shadow but I'm looking on getting a Honda Rebel or similar.
 
2014-03-12 01:51:58 PM  

TommyDeuce: Don't do 120 without a helmet on a pothole infested freeway?


If going 120, the helmet probably doesn't matter much unless you're skydiving.
 
2014-03-12 01:52:11 PM  

Coastalgrl: As a new motorcycle rider, potholes are at the top of my list of things to avoid. Its actually the thick reflective crosswalks that get me more nervous. I worry about the coefficient of friction of those strips being much less than the pavement.

Any farkers have new rider tips?


Invest in a small dirtbike and learn how to ride in slippery conditions and control loss of traction.  That way if you do spin up the rear while turning over crosswalk paint/tar strip/manhole cover you learn to stay on the power and ride it out instead of the natural instinct to chop the throttle/grab brakes which usually ends up high siding you into next week.

Trackdays are never a bad investment,  I actually recommend closed roadcourse performance riding schools over the standard MSF 'parking lot' courses.  It's better to learn how your motorcycle behaves at real-world speeds on the limits of traction, lean angle, and braking.  And you can't learn that at 10mph weaving around cones in a parking lot.

Wear armored leathers, a back protector, a full face helmet, armored gloves, and armored motorcycle specific boots.  Car fenders and bus stops are surprisingly hard when you bounce off of them, and you'll fair better if you're dressed accordingly.
 
2014-03-12 01:53:42 PM  

GregInIndy: Anyone on a motorcycle in the Midwest this time of year is a damned fool.

Give it a month or so to warm up, let the salt & sand get washed away by some rain, and the city/state some time to fill in the annual pothole crop. Idjit.


         ^^ Came here to say this but you said it better  ^^
 
2014-03-12 01:57:25 PM  
Based on the assholes with open-pipes culture that is more prevalent than not, I do not see this as a bad thing.

Sorry, but it's my opinion.
 
2014-03-12 01:59:25 PM  

sgnilward: And most importantly, any car you see while on a bike does not see you and is actively trying to kill you.

 
Well, even though you guys are much easier to run over due to the fact you choose to ride inappropriately-sized vehicles on major roadways and are, therefore, much harder to see... most cars aren't really any better at avoiding other cars either.
 
2014-03-12 02:01:58 PM  

Coastalgrl:  I live in FL ... assuming everyone is trying to kill me is a must.


This.  and this.  plus this.  and a little more of this.  True for all sentient lifeforms whether perambulating or riding/driving any form of transportation, not just two wheelers

/wait, forgot I was talking about Floridians, a requirement of sentience might be asking a lot of some of the people down there (present company excluded, of course)
 
2014-03-12 02:05:42 PM  
Good. fark that guy. The roads are not your personal race track. I'm glad nobody of importance was injured. //motorcyclist
 
2014-03-12 02:06:57 PM  

Coastalgrl: As a new motorcycle rider, potholes are at the top of my list of things to avoid. Its actually the thick reflective crosswalks that get me more nervous. I worry about the coefficient of friction of those strips being much less than the pavement.

Any farkers have new rider tips?

/Got tired of living a sheltered life watching other people do what I always wanted to do.
//Actively managing risk while getting out there and trying new things.
///Longboard skateboard and surfing next.
////Talks of skydiving. Not real firm plan yet.


DO NOT look directly at the object in the road that you are trying not to hit.  If you look at it, it is more likely that you'll hit it.
 
2014-03-12 02:09:04 PM  

bikerbob59: Coastalgrl: As a new motorcycle rider, potholes are at the top of my list of things to avoid. Its actually the thick reflective crosswalks that get me more nervous. I worry about the coefficient of friction of those strips being much less than the pavement.

Any farkers have new rider tips?

/Got tired of living a sheltered life watching other people do what I always wanted to do.
//Actively managing risk while getting out there and trying new things.
///Longboard skateboard and surfing next.
////Talks of skydiving. Not real firm plan yet.

DO NOT look directly at the object in the road that you are trying not to hit.  If you look at it, it is more likely that you'll hit it.


When in doubt... pin the throttle.  At least it takes care of the suspense...
 
2014-03-12 02:10:20 PM  
Meh, lots of people ride year 'round in similar climates. I passed on buying a used bike a couple of years ago because of all of the corrosion on the aluminum from road salt. The bike owner admitted to riding it all year.
In the UK, they have a concept called a "winter hack" motorcycle, which translates to "winter beater" in North America.
The people wringing their hands about riding in march remind me of the people who panic and stock up on groceries because there's going to be an inch of snow.
 
2014-03-12 02:10:51 PM  

danno_to_infinity: Coastalgrl:  I live in FL ... assuming everyone is trying to kill me is a must.

This.  and this.  plus this.  and a little more of this.  True for all sentient lifeforms whether perambulating or riding/driving any form of transportation, not just two wheelers

/wait, forgot I was talking about Floridians, a requirement of sentience might be asking a lot of some of the people down there (present company excluded, of course)


photos.imageevent.com
 
2014-03-12 02:14:19 PM  

danno_to_infinity: Coastalgrl:  I live in FL ... assuming everyone is trying to kill me is a must.

This.  and this.  plus this.  and a little more of this.


Funny, because I assume every motorcyclist I see is trying to kill themselves.
 
2014-03-12 02:14:20 PM  

sgnilward: Coastalgrl: As a new motorcycle rider, potholes are at the top of my list of things to avoid. Its actually the thick reflective crosswalks that get me more nervous. I worry about the coefficient of friction of those strips being much less than the pavement.

Any farkers have new rider tips?

/Got tired of living a sheltered life watching other people do what I always wanted to do.
//Actively managing risk while getting out there and trying new things.
///Longboard skateboard and surfing next.
////Talks of skydiving. Not real firm plan yet.

Take a safe rider class.

Ride away from traffic for a long time until you are comfortable with it.

Avoid the interstates.

Don't ride within an hour of sunrise and sunset if there are deer in your area.

Never consume alcohol before riding.

Warm clothes and rain gear.


  ^^ What he said ^^

Rider's safety course for sure.  very useful.

Never trust that people in vehicles will see you.

Always ride defensively.

Keep an eye on any vehicle in an intersection.
 
2014-03-12 02:15:43 PM  

moike: When in doubt... pin the throttle.  At least it takes care of the suspense...


What a pin may look like:
www.featurepics.com
 
2014-03-12 02:19:18 PM  
No helmet? Check.
Recklessly speeding? Check.
Area not conducive to speeding? Check.

Douchebag schmeer on asphalt bagel? Check.
 
2014-03-12 02:21:39 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-12 02:32:24 PM  

FormlessOne: No helmet? Check.
Recklessly speeding? Check.
Area not conducive to speeding? Check.

Douchebag schmeer on asphalt bagel? Check.


Yup. A pothole did not kill this one, his own stupidity did.
 
2014-03-12 02:36:18 PM  
 
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