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(Talking Points Memo)   GOP lawmaker: "50,000 battered women, and I still eat mine plain" No, no, don't leave yet. He does a great bit on "haha" rape vs. "uh oh" rape. How about this...did you hear the one about the drunk black guy at the country club?   (talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 200
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2014-03-12 10:13:30 AM

Millennium: You know, even when I don't think a joke is funny, I can usually at least figure out the line of thought that led to someone trying to tell it as a joke. This one, I can't follow at all. I saw the pic -I get the "eating" reference, though not the "plain" part- but what does one clause even have to do with the other? Why would the number make any difference? Is this a joke, or a political statement, or a word salad?



I think it has something to do with a brazillian wax.
 
2014-03-12 10:14:57 AM

Cubicle Jockey: Bloody William: What is it about New Hampshire


Their legislative chamber has a LOT of reps compared to their population. They have 400 reps and only 1.3 million people. So even if they just had the normal percentage of potato-americans (which they dont), the raw numbers in the legislature would still be high.


It's also been a rallying point for Libertarians for some time now, that can't help much. Google "free staters".
 
2014-03-12 10:15:19 AM

Millennium: You know, even when I don't think a joke is funny, I can usually at least figure out the line of thought that led to someone trying to tell it as a joke. This one, I can't follow at all. I saw the pic -I get the "eating" reference, though not the "plain" part- but what does one clause even have to do with the other? Why would the number make any difference? Is this a joke, or a political statement, or a word salad?


It is a play on the word "battered," having a dual meaning of a treatment for food and a victim of domestic violence. 50,000 puts it into context of the number of battered women... I'm guessing in the state, which furthers the contrast of those two terms.

It's a generally inappropriate play on words that, when worded and delivered correctly, can be amusing outside of mixed company, but when you're a lawmaker who has to deal with that very problem, half of your constituents are women, and you're calling attention to the fact that the number of abused women in your state is three times larger than the population of my hometown, It is grossly inappropriate. It's like how some "dead baby" jokes can be stupid but amusing, but you don't farking tell them to anyone who actually lost a baby, and you don't tell them when making policy on prenatal care availability.
 
2014-03-12 10:16:03 AM
I like the way these guys always complain about people calling them out when they make jokes like this. Republicans never seem to understand why some people can get away with these type of jokes but they can't. First off, if the joke is actually funny a lot of people will actually let it slide it it is offensive. Secondly when people know that you aren't being serious and you are telling your joke as part of a bigger point that later denounces the idea of your joke, they don't complain about it. Republicans don't understand this. They don't seem to understand that the rhetoric they spew and their actions lead people to believe that they hate women, so people will get offended with them telling jokes about battered women when those same people might not get offended when other groups do.
 
2014-03-12 10:16:13 AM
What do you tell a woman with 2 black eyes?

Nothing.  You already told her twice.

Ho

www.nndb.com
 
2014-03-12 10:16:56 AM
Oh, and the "eating" part adds further contrast, due to the dual meaning of both consuming food (like you would with food that has been battered) and performing cunnilingus. Which, circling back to the connotation of domestic violence, makes it even more unsavory.
 
2014-03-12 10:17:09 AM

doyner: The fact that these clowns continue to win elections is pretty representative of the debasing nature of their base.


You just dismissed republican wins as "because more people are stupid these days"

Democrats are in for a serious loss this year -- the senate is all but gone

Telling people they are dumb is not gonna win hearts and minds -- and ob top of it: they aren't dumb -- they just believe this country is on the wrong track and are willing to accept someone making a bad joke (which plenty of us do all the time) to correct the perceived consistently poor direction of the country

/doesn't believe the country is going in the wrong direction
//but a senate takeover by republicans will be unpleasant
 
2014-03-12 10:17:35 AM

Bloody William: The headline has to be hyperbole, overstating what he actually said *click* GODDAMMIT


Every. Damn. Time.
 
2014-03-12 10:17:35 AM
Murder jokes OK, anything referencing a woman is literally Hitler.

He likes giving oral sex, In am OUTRAGED.
 
2014-03-12 10:17:39 AM
Welp thanks for inspiring me to donate to my local women's shelter.
 
2014-03-12 10:18:04 AM
Also, holy fark, I might have just dissected humor in the most boring goddamn way possible.
 
2014-03-12 10:18:11 AM

Millennium: You know, even when I don't think a joke is funny, I can usually at least figure out the line of thought that led to someone trying to tell it as a joke. This one, I can't follow at all. I saw the pic -I get the "eating" reference, though not the "plain" part- but what does one clause even have to do with the other? Why would the number make any difference? Is this a joke, or a political statement, or a word salad?


This joke has been around for a long time, and I always equated it with the stereotype of "good old redneck boy likes his chicken wings and fish battered n fried" thing.  But I'm probably wrong, that's just my take on it.

/have been known to tell some pretty tasteless jokes to close friends
//female, so that throws another kink into the mix of telling bad woman-related jokes
///I think some are so bad, they're funny.  Not this one, but some.
 
2014-03-12 10:18:55 AM

bmongar: GOP candidates need to stop letting the media define them as anti women, to paint them with out of context sound bites.  The only way for this to happen is for every GOP candidate to discuss rape and women's issues every chance they get.  They need to talk about what sex acts are really rape, what clothing choices constitute consent, when pregnancy can really occur, and everything else about anatomy and rape.  If they remain silent the media will define their positions and paint a negative picture of them.


This is a cunning plan for the GOP. As a bleeding heart liberal I would be terrified of the electoral consequences. Surely it would lead to a total wave of new Republican congressmen and senators. Please GOP, do no follow these suggestions!
 
2014-03-12 10:19:27 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Danger Mouse: I donate a lot of money to the Tempura House.

It's a shelter for lightly battered women.

Goddamnit, I wanted to post the Carlin joke!

But, you got here first.


it's an oldie, but still gets a chuckle, but I don't think it's George Carlin.
 
2014-03-12 10:21:14 AM

Brostorm: Murder jokes OK, anything referencing a woman is literally Hitler.

He likes giving oral sex, In am OUTRAGED.


Every part of what you said is wrong and stupid.
 
2014-03-12 10:21:58 AM
Shameless and clueless...

The GOP is farking pathetic, but not as pathetic as the cretins that still vote for these offensive jackasses.
 
2014-03-12 10:22:37 AM

Bloody William: Also, holy fark, I might have just dissected humor in the most boring goddamn way possible.


And the frog is dead...
 
2014-03-12 10:23:05 AM

Danger Mouse: FirstNationalBastard: Danger Mouse: I donate a lot of money to the Tempura House.

It's a shelter for lightly battered women.

Goddamnit, I wanted to post the Carlin joke!

But, you got here first.

it's an oldie, but still gets a chuckle, but I don't think it's George Carlin.


I was thinking Billy Crystal...?  *shrug*
 
2014-03-12 10:23:09 AM

Brostorm: Murder jokes OK, anything referencing a woman is literally Hitler.

He likes giving oral sex, In am OUTRAGED.


You'll get over it Princess.
 
2014-03-12 10:23:22 AM

Tyrano Soros: Typical of you libtards to not understand satire.


What do you call a conservative with a wide stance? Gay.

What do you call a conservative rapist? Daddy

What do you call a conservative who has been divorced four times and had three out of wedlock children? Chairman of the family values committee.

You mean satire like that?
 
2014-03-12 10:23:41 AM

Bloody William: Oh, and the "eating" part adds further contrast, due to the dual meaning of both consuming food (like you would with food that has been battered) and performing cunnilingus. Which, circling back to the connotation of domestic violence, makes it even more unsavory.



Did I get them all?
What?
 
2014-03-12 10:24:14 AM
What does a woman do when she gets out of the battered women's shelter?

The dishes, if she knows what's good for her!
 
2014-03-12 10:24:15 AM
Did you hear the one about the drunk black guy at the country club?

Yo, subby! Why did you add a joke about black guys (without a punch line, too, how annoying) to a story about some goofball making an abused women joke? Just curious as to your reasoning.
 
2014-03-12 10:24:25 AM

vernonFL: Lighten up, Francis. Who doesn't enjoy a good battered woman joke?

What do say to 50,000 battered women?


Make me 50,000 sammiches!!!
 
2014-03-12 10:25:01 AM

Slaves2Darkness: Tyrano Soros: Typical of you libtards to not understand satire.

What do you call a conservative with a wide stance? Gay.

What do you call a conservative rapist? Daddy

What do you call a conservative who has been divorced four times and had three out of wedlock children? Chairman of the family values committee.

You mean satire like that?


The middle joke is pretty overly farking dark, but the first and third directly related to actual things that have happened and can legitimately be poked fun at because, among other reasons, there is no "victim" besides the asshole embarrassed by causing the situation.

And none of those are satire.
 
2014-03-12 10:25:22 AM

Brostorm: Murder jokes OK, anything referencing a woman is literally Hitler.


Off color jokes about historically put upon groups are only okay if it's obvious that you're laughing "with" them and not "at" them. This man has not earned that credibility.
 
2014-03-12 10:25:26 AM

thurstonxhowell: Brostorm: Murder jokes OK, anything referencing a woman is literally Hitler.

He likes giving oral sex, In am OUTRAGED.


Every part of what you said is wrong and stupid.


I disagree.
 
2014-03-12 10:26:14 AM

Brostorm: Murder jokes OK, anything referencing a woman is literally Hitler.

He likes giving oral sex, In am OUTRAGED.


He likes to give oral sex to women after he beats them is the implication. Your inability to fully comprehend it does not make it acceptable.
 
2014-03-12 10:26:15 AM

Bloody William: Millennium: You know, even when I don't think a joke is funny, I can usually at least figure out the line of thought that led to someone trying to tell it as a joke. This one, I can't follow at all. I saw the pic -I get the "eating" reference, though not the "plain" part- but what does one clause even have to do with the other? Why would the number make any difference? Is this a joke, or a political statement, or a word salad?

It is a play on the word "battered," having a dual meaning of a treatment for food and a victim of domestic violence. 50,000 puts it into context of the number of battered women... I'm guessing in the state, which furthers the contrast of those two terms.

It's a generally inappropriate play on words that, when worded and delivered correctly, can be amusing outside of mixed company, but when you're a lawmaker who has to deal with that very problem, half of your constituents are women, and you're calling attention to the fact that the number of abused women in your state is three times larger than the population of my hometown, It is grossly inappropriate. It's like how some "dead baby" jokes can be stupid but amusing, but you don't farking tell them to anyone who actually lost a baby, and you don't tell them when making policy on prenatal care availability.


Way back in my boyscout days I remember telling a whole bunch of dead baby jokes around the fire after all the adult supervision had gone to sleep. The jokes were just so horrible and telling them made me seem so tough and cool. Good times.

But then one oh the younger stupider kids retold ever joke in a car on the way home. The car my mom was driving. And he gave my name when asked where he heard such horrible stuff. These times were less good.
 
2014-03-12 10:26:44 AM

bdub77: bmongar: GOP candidates need to stop letting the media define them as anti women, to paint them with out of context sound bites.  The only way for this to happen is for every GOP candidate to discuss rape and women's issues every chance they get.  They need to talk about what sex acts are really rape, what clothing choices constitute consent, when pregnancy can really occur, and everything else about anatomy and rape.  If they remain silent the media will define their positions and paint a negative picture of them.

Can we throw in some off-topic questions about how old the earth is and whether or not the sun and planets revolve around the earth?


Or if Guam will tip over if we put too many Marines on it?
 
2014-03-12 10:27:30 AM

keithgabryelski: doyner: The fact that these clowns continue to win elections is pretty representative of the debasing nature of their base.

You just dismissed republican wins as "because more people are stupid these days"

Democrats are in for a serious loss this year -- the senate is all but gone

Telling people they are dumb is not gonna win hearts and minds -- and ob top of it: they aren't dumb -- they just believe this country is on the wrong track and are willing to accept someone making a bad joke (which plenty of us do all the time) to correct the perceived consistently poor direction of the country

/doesn't believe the country is going in the wrong direction
//but a senate takeover by republicans will be unpleasant


You got the wrong idea then.  I'm not dismissing wins at all.  I'm describing them.

And sure, it's not looking good for the Dems despite the nature of teir opposition.

But which hearts and minds am I trying to "win?"  The kind of folks that vote for guys like this? Really?  Sure, they believe the country is on the wrong track, but does that mean that the solution is to foist the likes of teabaggers, misogynists, chickenhawks, racists, and corporate shills on us?  And sure, it may be a "bad joke," but consider this: When your party is wounded because of its image vis-a-vis women and minorities, why give guys like this a pass when breathlessly criticizing Obama for things like arugula?

Again, I'm talking about the BASE here.
 
2014-03-12 10:28:12 AM

keithgabryelski: doyner: The fact that these clowns continue to win elections is pretty representative of the debasing nature of their base.

You just dismissed republican wins as "because more people are stupid these days"


Obviously "the debasing nature of their base" does not equal "because more people are stupid these days." It's not even close to meaning that.
 
2014-03-12 10:28:14 AM

ambercat: I'm beginning to think that some time in the future someone will come up with a psychiatric diagnosis for this, because there has got to be something wrong with these people's brains. This stopped being funny a long time ago. Now it's just sad Twilight Zone.


I happened to watch the "He's Alive" episode last night (featuring Dennis Hopper looking about 16). The speeches he gives throughout the episode (minus some of the more overt invocations of epithets) would not feel out of place at a GOP rally.

And that's farking scary.
 
2014-03-12 10:28:54 AM
Politicians, for the most part, aren't funny.  Some of them have good writers, and a few are good writers (Senator Franken comes to mind).  But I think all of them could benefit from the policy that you shouldn't make jokes about a victimized population unless you're part of that population.

Dudes yukking it up in public about domestic violence is iffy but even worse when it is an elected official.
 
2014-03-12 10:28:56 AM

LasersHurt: Brostorm: Murder jokes OK, anything referencing a woman is literally Hitler.

Off color jokes about historically put upon groups are only okay if it's obvious that you're laughing "with" them and not "at" them. This man has not earned that credibility.


Oh come on, if these women can't learn how to take a joke, they'll never learn how to take a punch.
 
2014-03-12 10:28:59 AM

Brostorm: Murder jokes OK, anything referencing a woman is literally Hitler.

He likes giving oral sex, In am OUTRAGED.


Are you talking about a group that has historically (and in the case of apparently 50,000 New Hampshire women, still is) suffered from the underlying problems of the subject of the joke? Are you a member about a group that has historically, generally, caused the underlying problems of the subject of the joke?

If the answer to both questions is yes, then shut the fark up and tell a different joke, you biatchy, privileged little princess.
 
2014-03-12 10:29:03 AM

Bloody William: What is it about New Hampshire and Vermont that seems to concentrate the pure batshiat crazy of New England (outside of Sox fans and similar Boston douchebags) like a freaking derp hellmouth?


New Hampshire's House of Reps has 400 members, each representing about 3000 people in total. They each get paid $100/year to be a Representative. As you can imagine - a lot of Crazy and Stupid comes out of the woodwork when tiny districts elect folks from the small pool of people willing to volunteer their time.
 
2014-03-12 10:30:49 AM

Slaves2Darkness: Tyrano Soros: Typical of you libtards to not understand satire.

What do you call a conservative with a wide stance? Gay.

What do you call a conservative rapist? Daddy

What do you call a conservative who has been divorced four times and had three out of wedlock children? Chairman of the family values committee.

You mean satire like that?



No, no, no. Those aren't jokes. Those are bad mischaracterizations of lib stereotypes. I mean satire like "Sandra Fluke is a slut" and "Moochelle Obama is fat" and "Michael J. Fox can't move his arms right."
 
2014-03-12 10:32:11 AM

error 303: LasersHurt: Brostorm: Murder jokes OK, anything referencing a woman is literally Hitler.

Off color jokes about historically put upon groups are only okay if it's obvious that you're laughing "with" them and not "at" them. This man has not earned that credibility.

Oh come on, if these women can't learn how to take a joke, they'll never learn how to take a punch.


I love you...
 
2014-03-12 10:33:55 AM
Har, Har.

Wow, what goes through a GOP mind?  Anything?

s2.quickmeme.com
 
2014-03-12 10:34:04 AM

Bloody William: Millennium: You know, even when I don't think a joke is funny, I can usually at least figure out the line of thought that led to someone trying to tell it as a joke. This one, I can't follow at all. I saw the pic -I get the "eating" reference, though not the "plain" part- but what does one clause even have to do with the other? Why would the number make any difference? Is this a joke, or a political statement, or a word salad?

It is a play on the word "battered," having a dual meaning of a treatment for food and a victim of domestic violence. 50,000 puts it into context of the number of battered women... I'm guessing in the state, which furthers the contrast of those two terms.

It's a generally inappropriate play on words that, when worded and delivered correctly, can be amusing outside of mixed company, but when you're a lawmaker who has to deal with that very problem, half of your constituents are women, and you're calling attention to the fact that the number of abused women in your state is three times larger than the population of my hometown, It is grossly inappropriate. It's like how some "dead baby" jokes can be stupid but amusing, but you don't farking tell them to anyone who actually lost a baby, and you don't tell them when making policy on prenatal care availability.


This right here.

I get the joke...but goddamn, what's good for Doug Stanhope or Jackie Martling isn't good for ANYONE in any position of power.
 
2014-03-12 10:34:06 AM

Danger Mouse: bdub77: bmongar: GOP candidates need to stop letting the media define them as anti women, to paint them with out of context sound bites.  The only way for this to happen is for every GOP candidate to discuss rape and women's issues every chance they get.  They need to talk about what sex acts are really rape, what clothing choices constitute consent, when pregnancy can really occur, and everything else about anatomy and rape.  If they remain silent the media will define their positions and paint a negative picture of them.

Can we throw in some off-topic questions about how old the earth is and whether or not the sun and planets revolve around the earth?

Or if Guam will tip over if we put too many Marines on it?



To be fair, that was a Democrat from Georgia. You do the math.
 
2014-03-12 10:34:49 AM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Brostorm: Murder jokes OK, anything referencing a woman is literally Hitler.

He likes giving oral sex, In am OUTRAGED.

He likes to give oral sex to women after he beats them is the implication. Your inability to fully comprehend it does not make it acceptable.


No. The joke (regardless who tells it) isn't that someone beats a woman before oral sex. The joke is funny because the teller mistakes battered for being fried. It's silly, It's sexy, and plays on  teller being a bit ignorant.  It's offensive because we're not supposed to laugh at anything involving domestic abuse and implies the teller may be indifferent to such a reprhensable act.. The joke doesn't imply  the teller actually prefers to beat woman.

/jokes suck when you have to explain why they are funny.
 
2014-03-12 10:35:06 AM
Funny that this guy just wrecked the party and the original offender's attempts to backpedal from a much less offensive statement.

And here's a surprise...

"Shurtleff said Tasker routinely wears two guns in a shoulder holster to legislative meetings."

a1.img.talkingpointsmemo.com
 
2014-03-12 10:35:20 AM
.... The joke about the black drunk guy at the country club wasn't in there, subby.

I hope it was funny. :/
 
2014-03-12 10:38:12 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Funny that this guy just wrecked the party and the original offender's attempts to backpedal from a much less offensive statement.

And here's a surprise...

"Shurtleff said Tasker routinely wears two guns in a shoulder holster to legislative meetings."

[a1.img.talkingpointsmemo.com image 652x365]

State Rep. Kyle Tasker (R-Nottingham) explained to onlookers that he had donated blood that morning and the effects caused him to drop his gun at the start of a House Criminal Justice and Public Safety Committee meeting.


Now that's funny.
 
2014-03-12 10:39:25 AM

doyner: The fact that these clowns continue to win elections is pretty representative of the debasing nature of their base.


All the smart/young people leave places like this.
 
2014-03-12 10:39:42 AM

Danger Mouse: DROxINxTHExWIND: Brostorm: Murder jokes OK, anything referencing a woman is literally Hitler.

He likes giving oral sex, In am OUTRAGED.

He likes to give oral sex to women after he beats them is the implication. Your inability to fully comprehend it does not make it acceptable.

No. The joke (regardless who tells it) isn't that someone beats a woman before oral sex. The joke is funny because the teller mistakes battered for being fried. It's silly, It's sexy, and plays on  teller being a bit ignorant.  It's offensive because we're not supposed to laugh at anything involving domestic abuse and implies the teller may be indifferent to such a reprhensable act.. The joke doesn't imply  the teller actually prefers to beat woman.

/jokes suck when you have to explain why they are funny.



No, the part about the women being battered (as in fish) is a play on words. The graphic illustrates exactly what the joker intended. There are two ways to eat a woman. He was talking R. Kelly, not Jeffery Dahmer.
 
2014-03-12 10:40:35 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Funny that this guy just wrecked the party and the original offender's attempts to backpedal from a much less offensive statement.

And here's a surprise...

"Shurtleff said Tasker routinely wears two guns in a shoulder holster to legislative meetings."

[a1.img.talkingpointsmemo.com image 652x365]


Shocking...Another scared little conservative, who can't go anywhere without his political fashion accessories.


"Little man with a gun in his hand... Little man with a gun in his hand..."
 
2014-03-12 10:41:09 AM

LasersHurt: Brostorm: Murder jokes OK, anything referencing a woman is literally Hitler.

Off color jokes about historically put upon groups are only okay if it's obvious that you're laughing "with" them and not "at" them. This man has not earned that credibility.


In other words, "it's OK when we do it."
 
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