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(Vancouver Sun)   Canadian military pulls out of Afghanistan, taking its rifle with it   (vancouversun.com ) divider line
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2014-03-12 09:53:52 AM  
Yeah, but that rifle is a Longbranch No. 4 Mk I* SMLE, so it's actually a pretty damned good rifle.
 
2014-03-12 09:55:00 AM  
Yeah, given that the world sniper records are held by Canadians, I'd be relieved if I were Taliban.
 
2014-03-12 09:59:06 AM  

rwhamann: Yeah, given that the world sniper records are held by Canadians, I'd be relieved if I were Taliban.


Yeah, well, Canada is mostly empty and uninhabited, so it makes sense they'd be accustomed to shooting long distances.  Politely.
 
2014-03-12 10:10:29 AM  
I wonder how many hours subby spent outside of his mom's basement over the last decade while 40,000 Canadians served in Afghanistan and 158 didn't make it back?
 
2014-03-12 10:25:31 AM  
If it's their sniper rifle then it will be missed.
 
2014-03-12 10:47:00 AM  

Prey4reign: I wonder how many hours subby spent outside of his mom's basement over the last decade while 40,000 Canadians served in Afghanistan and 158 didn't make it back?


So a Canuck being sent to Afghanistan had a 99.6% chance of making it back?  Sounds like a doddle, as far as actual, for-real no barley-cross fingers military operations go.

/US Army 1985-1989
//Just to head off the "mom's basement" statement.
///Youngest brother served in Kosovo, Afghanistan, and Iraq (last as a civilian contractor)
 
2014-03-12 10:57:27 AM  

dittybopper: civilian contractor


You misspelled "mercenary".
 
2014-03-12 11:00:01 AM  

Calmamity: dittybopper: civilian contractor

You misspelled "mercenary".


Generally, that term isn't applied to people whose job it is to install fiber optic networks.  But whatever.
 
2014-03-12 11:03:41 AM  

Prey4reign: I wonder how many hours subby spent outside of his mom's basement over the last decade while 40,000 Canadians served in Afghanistan and 158 didn't make it back?


Yep, subby is pretty much an asshole...and the admins for green-lighting it.
 
2014-03-12 11:03:49 AM  

dittybopper: Yeah, but that rifle is a Longbranch No. 4 Mk I* SMLE, so it's actually a pretty damned good rifle.


Could be an SLR, another decent rifle.
 
2014-03-12 11:06:27 AM  
As a formar member of the United States Military, I have to say, don't go messing around with the Canadian military.  They may not be as boisterous as us, but I would pick them over just about everyone else.
 
2014-03-12 11:06:37 AM  

dittybopper: Calmamity: dittybopper: civilian contractor

You misspelled "mercenary".

Generally, that term isn't applied to people whose job it is to install fiber optic networks.  But whatever.


My best friend from high school was a civilian contractor in Afghanistan. He unloaded cargo planes. Civilian Contractor =/= mercenary. But whatever.
 
2014-03-12 11:08:51 AM  
CalmamityDOUCHEBAG: dittybopper: civilian contractor

You misspelled "mercenary".


FTFY
 
2014-03-12 11:08:55 AM  

Tricky Chicken: As a formar member of the United States Military, I have to say, don't go messing around with the Canadian military.  They may not be as boisterous as us, but I would pick them over just about everyone else.


Underfunded and shat on by procurement but pound for pound one of the best fighting forces in the world.
 
2014-03-12 11:09:16 AM  
Can they leave the moose cavalry?
 
2014-03-12 11:09:48 AM  

dittybopper: Prey4reign: I wonder how many hours subby spent outside of his mom's basement over the last decade while 40,000 Canadians served in Afghanistan and 158 didn't make it back?

So a Canuck being sent to Afghanistan had a 99.6% chance of making it back?  Sounds like a doddle, as far as actual, for-real no barley-cross fingers military operations go.

/US Army 1985-1989
//Just to head off the "mom's basement" statement.
///Youngest brother served in Kosovo, Afghanistan, and Iraq (last as a civilian contractor)


Canadian doctrine doesn't have "Acceptable Losses" in it.
 
2014-03-12 11:09:48 AM  

dittybopper: Calmamity: dittybopper: civilian contractor

You misspelled "mercenary".

Generally, that term isn't applied to people whose job it is to install fiber optic networks.  But whatever.


Just gave me an idea for my next National Novel Writing Month project... mercenary fiber optic network installers. They came to kick ass and install cable. And they're all out of cable.
 
2014-03-12 11:09:59 AM  

Calmamity: dittybopper: civilian contractor

You misspelled "mercenary".


I wonder if dere's beer in Afghanistan.
www.rowsdowr.com
 
2014-03-12 11:13:45 AM  

cgraves67: dittybopper: Calmamity: dittybopper: civilian contractor

You misspelled "mercenary".

Generally, that term isn't applied to people whose job it is to install fiber optic networks.  But whatever.

My best friend from high school was a civilian contractor in Afghanistan. He unloaded cargo planes. Civilian Contractor =/= mercenary. But whatever.


It's amazing what can happen when you ETS and use your GI Bill money to learn a lucrative trade.  Brother still installs and maintains fiber networks, but just stateside now.
 
2014-03-12 11:15:11 AM  
Someday the Russians are going to come over the pole and the only thing standing between us and annihilation will be one Mountie with a sniper rifle and a tactical combat canoe fill with poutine and timbits.
 
2014-03-12 11:16:53 AM  
 
2014-03-12 11:17:06 AM  
Calm down guys,

As a Canadian, and someone with family and friends serving in the Forces, I'd like to invite everyone to just chill out a bit.

It's a joke, and a damn funny one about how underfunded our Armed Forces truly are. I saw nothing in the headline knocking the Canadian sacrifice in Afghanistan.
 
2014-03-12 11:17:20 AM  

Skunkwolf: Canadian doctrine doesn't have "Acceptable Losses" in it.


Then it can't ever do anything militarily, except maybe use drones, because the use of military forces implies losses.  Even the most overwhelming and technologically superior force is going to sustain *SOME* losses, minimal though they may be,

That being the case, it should never deploy outside of the borders of the Great White North.

/Every military has "Acceptable Losses" as part of its doctrine.
//The one that does paralyzes itself.
 
2014-03-12 11:17:31 AM  

dittybopper: cgraves67: dittybopper: Calmamity: dittybopper: civilian contractor

You misspelled "mercenary".

Generally, that term isn't applied to people whose job it is to install fiber optic networks.  But whatever.

My best friend from high school was a civilian contractor in Afghanistan. He unloaded cargo planes. Civilian Contractor =/= mercenary. But whatever.

It's amazing what can happen when you ETS and use your GI Bill money to learn a lucrative trade.  Brother still installs and maintains fiber networks, but just stateside now.


Unfortunately, my friend didn't parley his military experience into improving his station in life. He still does manual labor stateside.
 
2014-03-12 11:19:37 AM  

Tricky Chicken: As a formar member of the United States Military, I have to say, don't go messing around with the Canadian military.  They may not be as boisterous as us, but I would pick them over just about everyone else.


Take a bunch of Canadians who, for whatever reason, just couldn't quite make it to the NHL. Give them guns.

Drop them in a hostile country with no Tim Horton's.

Wait.
 
2014-03-12 11:19:42 AM  
b.vimeocdn.com

Someone had to do it.
 
2014-03-12 11:20:54 AM  

AbiNormal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_military_victories

That is anemic even by French standards.


On the other hand, the "List of Canadian Military Defeats" is downright TINY by American standards...
 
2014-03-12 11:21:02 AM  

had98c: dittybopper: Calmamity: dittybopper: civilian contractor

You misspelled "mercenary".

Generally, that term isn't applied to people whose job it is to install fiber optic networks.  But whatever.

Just gave me an idea for my next National Novel Writing Month project... mercenary fiber optic network installers. They came to kick ass and install cable. And they're all out of cable.


Unfortunately anyone who knows how to install cable is also physically incapable of kicking ass.

images.slashdot.org
 
2014-03-12 11:21:51 AM  

dkimball: Prey4reign: I wonder how many hours subby spent outside of his mom's basement over the last decade while 40,000 Canadians served in Afghanistan and 158 didn't make it back?

Yep, subby is pretty much an asshole...and the admins for green-lighting it.


My friends' son didn't make it back :-(
 
2014-03-12 11:22:51 AM  
I think that Canadian sniper record has been broken by a british soldier.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Harrison_%28sniper%29
 
2014-03-12 11:24:57 AM  

Prey4reign: I wonder how many hours subby spent outside of his mom's basement over the last decade while 40,000 Canadians served in Afghanistan and 158 didn't make it back?


John Wort Hannam approves of your post.

"Infantryman" causes a lot of dust to suddenly appear whenever I hear it.
 
2014-03-12 11:25:15 AM  

rwhamann: Yeah, given that the world sniper records are held by Canadians, I'd be relieved if I were Taliban.


It was broken by a British sniper in Afghanistan a few years ago.  IIRC, there's an unconfirmed Australian claim as well.
 
2014-03-12 11:25:27 AM  

cgraves67: Unfortunately, my friend didn't parley his military experience into improving his station in life. He still does manual labor stateside.


Well, the world needs ditch diggers, too.
 
2014-03-12 11:27:10 AM  

AbiNormal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_military_victories

That is anemic even by French standards.


Check out the USA's record vs. Canada sometime.
 
2014-03-12 11:27:23 AM  

Uriel: AbiNormal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_military_victories

That is anemic even by French standards.

On the other hand, the "List of Canadian Military Defeats" is downright TINY by American standards...


I understand that fully in fifty per cent of the military actions Americans fought between 1861 and 1865, American troops were defeated.
 
2014-03-12 11:27:41 AM  
I'm sure I'll be mocked for this.  But as an American to any Canadian reading this.

Thank you.
 
2014-03-12 11:28:01 AM  

tedthebellhopp: dittybopper: Yeah, but that rifle is a Longbranch No. 4 Mk I* SMLE, so it's actually a pretty damned good rifle.

Could be an SLR, another decent rifle.


SLR is the aussie verison... you want the C1 or C1A1 for the canuck version
 
2014-03-12 11:28:20 AM  

Uriel: AbiNormal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_military_victories

That is anemic even by French standards.

On the other hand, the "List of Canadian Military Defeats" is downright TINY by American standards...


If you look at that list of Canadian victories, its all battles, no wars.
 
2014-03-12 11:29:35 AM  
 
2014-03-12 11:29:40 AM  
apparently one in three Canadian soldiers is an asian subcontractor.  I did not know that.

www.vancouversun.com
 
2014-03-12 11:29:56 AM  

Gonz: AbiNormal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_military_victories

That is anemic even by French standards.

Check out the USA's record vs. Canada sometime.


You mean America vs Great Britain?
 
2014-03-12 11:31:35 AM  

dittybopper: Calmamity: dittybopper: civilian contractor

You misspelled "mercenary".

Generally, that term isn't applied to people whose job it is to install fiber optic networks.  But whatever.


Here's how I look at it. If the task (or the lower-tech equivalent) would have been performed by a uniformed and rank-assigned person during World War II, then the task is a military one and any private individuals paid by the government to do that task in a war zone would be a mercenary. The word "mercenary" should not be a slur in itself, although the behaviors of mercenaries during the Thirty Years War and the various Congo wars have sullied their reputations.
 
2014-03-12 11:33:19 AM  

rebelyell2006: dittybopper: Calmamity: dittybopper: civilian contractor

You misspelled "mercenary".

Generally, that term isn't applied to people whose job it is to install fiber optic networks.  But whatever.

Here's how I look at it. If the task (or the lower-tech equivalent) would have been performed by a uniformed and rank-assigned person during World War II, then the task is a military one and any private individuals paid by the government to do that task in a war zone would be a mercenary. The word "mercenary" should not be a slur in itself, although the behaviors of mercenaries during the Thirty Years War and the various Congo wars have sullied their reputations.


Or rather, any private individuals hired by a commissioned or contracted person or company and serving under the name and banner of that commissioned or contracted person.
 
2014-03-12 11:35:03 AM  
Headed back to Canadakota don't ya know
 
2014-03-12 11:35:28 AM  

doglover: had98c: dittybopper: Calmamity: dittybopper: civilian contractor

You misspelled "mercenary".

Generally, that term isn't applied to people whose job it is to install fiber optic networks.  But whatever.

Just gave me an idea for my next National Novel Writing Month project... mercenary fiber optic network installers. They came to kick ass and install cable. And they're all out of cable.

Unfortunately anyone who knows how to install cable is also physically incapable of kicking ass.

[images.slashdot.org image 600x622]


Heh.

Youngest brother was in the 82nd Airborne, and yes, he jumped out of airplanes.

Middle brother was an infantry Marine.
 
2014-03-12 11:36:11 AM  
I worked not far from CFB Trenton for most of Canada's stint in Afghanistan and the number of losses doesn't seem like a lot but seeing all the people lining the roads every time a fallen soldier came back...man it was rough. I'd like to say that the entire thing was worth it but I don't believe for a second that the world is better off today than the day the towers came down and the "War on Terror" kicked off.
 
2014-03-12 11:36:12 AM  

cynicalbastard: Uriel: AbiNormal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_military_victories

That is anemic even by French standards.

On the other hand, the "List of Canadian Military Defeats" is downright TINY by American standards...

I understand that fully in fifty per cent of the military actions Americans fought between 1861 and 1865, American troops were defeated.


Reason I said 50 as opposed to 100 per cent is in half the battles, they fought for a day or two, sat there glaring at each other for a week, went back to opposite sides of a river and traded coffee, tobacco, and No shiat, There We Was stories for a couple months. No real defeat or victory occurred.
 
2014-03-12 11:38:09 AM  

El Dudereno: Prey4reign: I wonder how many hours subby spent outside of his mom's basement over the last decade while 40,000 Canadians served in Afghanistan and 158 didn't make it back?

John Wort Hannam approves of your post.

"Infantryman" causes a lot of dust to suddenly appear whenever I hear it.


"Sailing" by The Strumbellas has the same effect on me.  Tim Thompson is far too good at his job sometimes.
 
2014-03-12 11:42:43 AM  

cgraves67: Someday the Russians are going to come over the pole and the only thing standing between us and annihilation will be one Mountie with a sniper rifle and a tactical combat canoe fill with poutine and timbits.


God no! Poutine needs to be served hot and fresh. No good as a ration or mre.

Kegs of maple syrup last and pack plenty of energy.
 
2014-03-12 11:44:37 AM  
@dittybopper

I live with my mom

/let this post be all the feeding he gets
 
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