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2014-03-11 11:56:03 PM  
Mega-hole

vs Dino-tire
 
2014-03-12 12:10:42 AM  
Oh, frikkin great

/now we get to hear about how Chicago deep-dish potholes are inferior to New York thin-crust potholes
//or they're casser-holes or something
 
2014-03-12 12:17:39 AM  
Well, it's not what 911 is for. So I hope that fail tag is for the moron who decided to call it.

Call city works or 511. Don't tie up a line and make someone with a life-threatening emergency wait for the dispatcher you are biatching at, to get help to them.
 
2014-03-12 12:23:11 AM  
Obligatory moreyouknow.jpg.

thevillageparent.com

When to call 911, a simple picture example:

www.ece.uc.edu
www.orionrestoration.com 
static.guim.co.uk

When NOT to call 911:

theexpiredmeter.com
 
2014-03-12 12:32:55 AM  
eh, it's chicago. if you're not prepared for the eventuality of a really big hole in the road, go back to indiana.
 
2014-03-12 12:49:39 AM  
In Chicago the city needs a permit from itself to repair its own streets.

Yet people wonder why its budget is out of control.
 
2014-03-12 12:58:47 AM  
Am I the only one who read the article? Where in that story did 911 disregard this call? They sent out a squad car. They did what they could at the time by placing cones around the hole. This isn't the best use of 911, especially in a city with 311 service, but it's not even close to the worst.
 
2014-03-12 01:00:43 AM  

Di Atribe: Am I the only one who read the article? Where in that story did 911 disregard this call? They sent out a squad car. They did what they could at the time by placing cones around the hole. This isn't the best use of 911, especially in a city with 311 service, but it's not even close to the worst.


And it wasn't a pot hole, the street actually caved in over a water (or sewer) line.
 
2014-03-12 01:03:32 AM  

feckingmorons: And it wasn't a pot hole, the street actually caved in over a water (or sewer) line.


Yeah, I'd call that a dangerous situation. I'm guessing emergency responders would much rather show up & place some cones than have to clean up an accident.
 
2014-03-12 01:30:41 AM  

Di Atribe: feckingmorons: And it wasn't a pot hole, the street actually caved in over a water (or sewer) line.

Yeah, I'd call that a dangerous situation. I'm guessing emergency responders would much rather show up & place some cones than have to clean up an accident.


I once drove through a busy intersection and saw a couple boxes of rifle shells (e.g. ammunition - 0.306 or bigger) spilled all over the goddamn place.

I pulled over and called the local PD dispatch NON-EMERGENCY number.

of course, that one is in the phone book instead of tattooed on your brain.
 
2014-03-12 01:35:29 AM  

Asa Phelps: Di Atribe: feckingmorons: And it wasn't a pot hole, the street actually caved in over a water (or sewer) line.

Yeah, I'd call that a dangerous situation. I'm guessing emergency responders would much rather show up & place some cones than have to clean up an accident.

I once drove through a busy intersection and saw a couple boxes of rifle shells (e.g. ammunition - 0.306 or bigger) spilled all over the goddamn place.

I pulled over and called the local PD dispatch NON-EMERGENCY number.

of course, that one is in the phone book instead of tattooed on your brain.


When I was a young child some psychopath in a blue jumpsuit tried to tattoo from three number sequence on my fore-brain, so naturally I called 911.

Or something.
 
2014-03-12 01:39:45 AM  

Asa Phelps: Di Atribe: feckingmorons: And it wasn't a pot hole, the street actually caved in over a water (or sewer) line.

Yeah, I'd call that a dangerous situation. I'm guessing emergency responders would much rather show up & place some cones than have to clean up an accident.

I once drove through a busy intersection and saw a couple boxes of rifle shells (e.g. ammunition - 0.306 or bigger) spilled all over the goddamn place.

I pulled over and called the local PD dispatch NON-EMERGENCY number.

of course, that one is in the phone book instead of tattooed on your brain.


That's smart. We should all have our city's non emergency number saved in our phones. There's really no excuse not to any more. If 911 is handling a big incident, they'll ignore it until they get a chance to handle our less critical stuff. Like ammo in the road. Or a dead squirrel in your yard. Or mouthy teenagers on your neighbor's porch.
 
2014-03-12 05:53:54 AM  
The pothole emergency hotline is 912.....
 
2014-03-12 05:54:50 AM  

Di Atribe: Asa Phelps: Di Atribe: feckingmorons: And it wasn't a pot hole, the street actually caved in over a water (or sewer) line.

Yeah, I'd call that a dangerous situation. I'm guessing emergency responders would much rather show up & place some cones than have to clean up an accident.

I once drove through a busy intersection and saw a couple boxes of rifle shells (e.g. ammunition - 0.306 or bigger) spilled all over the goddamn place.

I pulled over and called the local PD dispatch NON-EMERGENCY number.

of course, that one is in the phone book instead of tattooed on your brain.

That's smart. We should all have our city's non emergency number saved in our phones. There's really no excuse not to any more. If 911 is handling a big incident, they'll ignore it until they get a chance to handle our less critical stuff. Like ammo in the road. Or a dead squirrel in your yard. Or mouthy teenagers on your neighbor's porch.


In theory that's a good idea, but I bet the reason they don't do it is the fear the line will be flooded by people calling to report that McDonald's messed up the pickles on their hamburger and other such non-emergencies that still aren't what those lines are supposed to deal with.
 
2014-03-12 05:58:46 AM  
What evs, here in Ottawa we got potholes big enough to swallow cars.
ottawa.ctvnews.ca

wpmedia.news.nationalpost.com
 
2014-03-12 05:59:22 AM  
There's a giant pothole on the road where I live, and the state of the road is pretty terrible even without that one giant pothole, which if a cyclist hit would kill him. Even cars have to weave around it, it's pretty dangerous if someone doesn't see it till late, because it's not so small you can see it late and grit your teeth and ride it out, you have to swerve, it will break the car otherwise. Imagine my relief when traffic cones went up, and building work started. Imagine my disbelief when they put in 2 completely pointless speed humps (took them over a week to do) and left without touching the pot hole.

I am now convinced that the local authorities look at pot holes as free speed bumps.


/csb
 
2014-03-12 06:05:03 AM  

Di Atribe: Am I the only one who read the article? Where in that story did 911 disregard this call? They sent out a squad car. They did what they could at the time by placing cones around the hole. This isn't the best use of 911, especially in a city with 311 service, but it's not even close to the worst.


Yeah he actually might have used the correct number - he mentioned both 311 and 911, and I don't trust that the reporter verified that a 911 call existed before writing that the guy called 911. Even if he did, a collapsed street *is* an emergency, especially after night falls. It's not like there's only one incoming 911 line and if he's calling on it, no one else can get through. This isn't 1905.
 
2014-03-12 06:11:24 AM  

Di Atribe: Asa Phelps: Di Atribe: feckingmorons: And it wasn't a pot hole, the street actually caved in over a water (or sewer) line.

Yeah, I'd call that a dangerous situation. I'm guessing emergency responders would much rather show up & place some cones than have to clean up an accident.

I once drove through a busy intersection and saw a couple boxes of rifle shells (e.g. ammunition - 0.306 or bigger) spilled all over the goddamn place.

I pulled over and called the local PD dispatch NON-EMERGENCY number.

of course, that one is in the phone book instead of tattooed on your brain.

That's smart. We should all have our city's non emergency number saved in our phones. There's really no excuse not to any more. If 911 is handling a big incident, they'll ignore it until they get a chance to handle our less critical stuff. Like ammo in the road. Or a dead squirrel in your yard. Or mouthy teenagers on your neighbor's porch.


I'm pretty sure you're allowed to shoot at the mouthy teenagers on your neighbor's porch.
 
2014-03-12 06:15:00 AM  
 
2014-03-12 06:15:56 AM  
The only thing that'll stop a bad man with a pothole is a good man with a pothole.
 
2014-03-12 06:17:20 AM  
Kelly Bundy knew how to get it fixed.
 
2014-03-12 06:18:03 AM  

Asa Phelps: eh, it's chicago. if you're not prepared for the eventuality of a really big hole in the road, go back to indiana.


Is the implication that Indiana isn't just one big pothole right now? Because that's entirely incorrect. My daily commute on main thoroughfares, especially after the winter we've had, well, let's just say I'd be better off driving on railroad tracks, fewer bumps.
 
2014-03-12 06:21:31 AM  

Di Atribe: Asa Phelps: Di Atribe: feckingmorons: And it wasn't a pot hole, the street actually caved in over a water (or sewer) line.

Yeah, I'd call that a dangerous situation. I'm guessing emergency responders would much rather show up & place some cones than have to clean up an accident.

I once drove through a busy intersection and saw a couple boxes of rifle shells (e.g. ammunition - 0.306 or bigger) spilled all over the goddamn place.

I pulled over and called the local PD dispatch NON-EMERGENCY number.

of course, that one is in the phone book instead of tattooed on your brain.

That's smart. We should all have our city's non emergency number saved in our phones. There's really no excuse not to any more. If 911 is handling a big incident, they'll ignore it until they get a chance to handle our less critical stuff. Like ammo in the road. Or a dead squirrel in your yard. Or mouthy teenagers on your neighbor's porch.


I just did this not that long ago for my local where I live and then the place where I'd call on my way to work.

/also from your earlier post, don't most large cities have other numbers than 911 nowadays?
//are they the same in every city?
 
2014-03-12 06:26:47 AM  
images.ncix.com
ya gotta love gene wilder...
 
2014-03-12 06:28:19 AM  
"Yeah, 911, there's a GIGANTIC POTHOLE IN MY STREET." "Sorry, that's not the purpose of 911." "But, cars are getting dam--" "Good day, sir." ***CLICK***

Yeah...about that...

"A squad car came. We found cones next to a building and put two of them up around the hole. One fell in the hole or someone threw it in there," said Howlett, whose father, Mike, was a longtime Il. Secretary of State who defeated incumbent Gov. Dan Walker in the 1976 Democratic primary only to lose the general election to Republican Jim Thompson.
Edward Howlett said the police officer "called it in on the radio and the dispatcher told him Streets and Sanitation would be alerted. He told them, `This is going to be a disaster if a bus or something hits this hole.' " But, City Hall didn't swing into action until the Sun-Times posted the story.


Once again...submitter either can't read, or is a liar.
 
2014-03-12 06:42:59 AM  
To be fair 911 did leave a pretty big hole
 
2014-03-12 06:44:51 AM  

hardinparamedic: When NOT to call 911:


Mad that paramedics weren't needed?

The hole, as the article states, was 6 feet deep.  That's more than a minor annoyance for drivers.

While it's not exactly the below picture, it could easily have been a major cause for concern/attention by other emergency personnel.

ioneglobalgrind.files.wordpress.com

What do you think that looked like when it first started to cave in?
 
2014-03-12 06:54:48 AM  
My wife hit a pothole last friday, destroyed the tire, wheel, and strut.  Over 1200 for the repair and about 300 for a rental car.

/NSCSB
 
2014-03-12 06:55:31 AM  

hardinparamedic: Well, it's not what 911 is for. So I hope that fail tag is for the moron who decided to call it.

Call city works or 511. Don't tie up a line and make someone with a life-threatening emergency wait for the dispatcher you are biatching at, to get help to them.


In my city the number is 311. And the depth of that hole in the story suggests a sinkhole, not a pothole.

The article says they did send out a squad car.

And, with no snark whatsoever, what would that hole do to your ambulance if you hit it on the way to an emergency?
 
2014-03-12 07:02:31 AM  

feckingmorons: In Chicago the city needs a permit from itself to repair its own streets.


After the committee meeting to determine the number and dollar amount for bribes, and which contributor's driveway will be getting resurfaced with the "extra" asphalt.
 
2014-03-12 07:06:41 AM  
After the ice cleared around here, I went for a walk, and about 3-4 doors down, I found a pot hole about 4 inches across, but it looked at least 3 feet deep.. like there's a small cave down there.
 
2014-03-12 07:08:25 AM  

feckingmorons: In Chicago the city needs a permit from itself to repair its own streets.

Yet people wonder why its budget is out of control.


These are the excellent services you pay some of the highest taxes in the country for. If you want better road maintenance you should be paying even more.

Also, you should be careful bringing up government fiscal responsibility on Fark. I did it once and was told I should "move to the tax free paradise of Somalia."
 
2014-03-12 07:13:29 AM  

Alphax: After the ice cleared around here, I went for a walk, and about 3-4 doors down, I found a pot hole about 4 inches across, but it looked at least 3 feet deep.. like there's a small cave down there.


It is a cave. Gremlins live in caves. Therefore, this is all the doing of gremlins.

We need more than 911.
 
2014-03-12 07:18:49 AM  
Howlett, whose father, Mike, was a longtime Il. Secretary of State who defeated incumbent Gov. Dan Walker in the 1976 Democratic primary only to lose the general election to Republican Jim Thompson.

what was with giving everyone's old ass political history in this? None of that seemed relevant at all.
 
GBB
2014-03-12 07:22:45 AM  
Typical.  Blame 911.  It's always 911's fault.  Regardless of the actual facts of the situation, blame the call taker.

reactiongifs.me
 
2014-03-12 07:28:34 AM  

ambercat: Di Atribe: Asa Phelps: Di Atribe: feckingmorons: And it wasn't a pot hole, the street actually caved in over a water (or sewer) line.

Yeah, I'd call that a dangerous situation. I'm guessing emergency responders would much rather show up & place some cones than have to clean up an accident.

I once drove through a busy intersection and saw a couple boxes of rifle shells (e.g. ammunition - 0.306 or bigger) spilled all over the goddamn place.

I pulled over and called the local PD dispatch NON-EMERGENCY number.

of course, that one is in the phone book instead of tattooed on your brain.

That's smart. We should all have our city's non emergency number saved in our phones. There's really no excuse not to any more. If 911 is handling a big incident, they'll ignore it until they get a chance to handle our less critical stuff. Like ammo in the road. Or a dead squirrel in your yard. Or mouthy teenagers on your neighbor's porch.

In theory that's a good idea, but I bet the reason they don't do it is the fear the line will be flooded by people calling to report that McDonald's messed up the pickles on their hamburger and other such non-emergencies that still aren't what those lines are supposed to deal with.


Here they are pretty vocal about asking you to call the non emergency line for all kinds of things. We actually have like a five minute response time and a PD that gives a shiat though....
 
2014-03-12 07:29:45 AM  

Slaxl: There's a giant pothole on the road where I live, and the state of the road is pretty terrible even without that one giant pothole, which if a cyclist hit would kill him. Even cars have to weave around it, it's pretty dangerous if someone doesn't see it till late, because it's not so small you can see it late and grit your teeth and ride it out, you have to swerve, it will break the car otherwise. Imagine my relief when traffic cones went up, and building work started. Imagine my disbelief when they put in 2 completely pointless speed humps (took them over a week to do) and left without touching the pot hole.

I am now convinced that the local authorities look at pot holes as free speed bumps.


/csb


God, that would p*ss me off.  Next time call your local news station and bring that to their attention.  If they're anything like the ones we have around here, they'd have jumped all over it.
 
2014-03-12 07:29:58 AM  
They think that's a big pothole?  They haven't been out driving this week.  There's a dozen potholes that big at every intersection in the city.

Late last year the city came out to fix a very large hole in the middle of my street, which is a cul-de-sac with no through traffic just a couple miles from downtown.  It was way too big to patch, so they ended up tearing out a Smart Car sized hole about 2 feet deep from the middle of the street to repave.

Then they left.  For two months.  This is a hole in the middle of a street with cars parked on both sides and barely enough room between for two cars to squeeze by each other between that.  And the hole was right in the middle.  They put up some wooden signs around the hole, which were knocked in by the very first car to try to squeeze by.

This year, I imagine it'll be August before the streets are safely driveable again.  This guy needs to learn some patience.
 
2014-03-12 07:30:54 AM  

omeganuepsilon: While it's not exactly the below picture, it could easily have been a major cause for concern/attention by other emergency personnel.


What "emergency personnel" are responsible for first-response pothole-filling?
 
2014-03-12 07:32:22 AM  

GoldSpider: omeganuepsilon: While it's not exactly the below picture, it could easily have been a major cause for concern/attention by other emergency personnel.

What "emergency personnel" are responsible for first-response pothole-filling?


They are responsible for doing things like cleaning up wrecks and fixing injuries caused by potholes. You really couldn't make that leap in logic?
 
2014-03-12 07:37:35 AM  

untaken_name: They are responsible for doing things like cleaning up wrecks and fixing injuries caused by potholes. You really couldn't make that leap in logic?


lol!
 
2014-03-12 07:39:23 AM  

GBB: Typical.  Blame 911.  It's always 911's fault.  Regardless of the actual facts of the situation, blame the call taker.

[reactiongifs.me image 320x600]


I don't think it is a coincidence that that last frame resembles a dick and balls being rubbed in a mans face. As a matter of fact, I'd go so far as to suggest that is the source of your fascination with it.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.
 
2014-03-12 07:40:52 AM  

untaken_name: They are responsible for doing things like cleaning up wrecks and fixing injuries caused by potholes. You really couldn't make that leap in logic?


I imagine first-responders have many more immediate, actual emergencies to concern themselves with than potholes, but maybe it's just that nice in Chicago.
 
2014-03-12 07:44:33 AM  

hardinparamedic: Obligatory moreyouknow.jpg.

[thevillageparent.com image 300x215]

When to call 911, a simple picture example:

[www.ece.uc.edu image 300x300]
[www.orionrestoration.com image 850x566]
[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]

When NOT to call 911:

[theexpiredmeter.com image 320x240]





Not that I don't agree, but an exception should be made when potholes graduate to sink holes.

/someone hit that thing with any speed and you'll end up needing an ambulance, firetruck, police anyway...
 
2014-03-12 07:48:21 AM  

GoldSpider: untaken_name: They are responsible for doing things like cleaning up wrecks and fixing injuries caused by potholes. You really couldn't make that leap in logic?

I imagine first-responders have many more immediate, actual emergencies to concern themselves with than potholes, but maybe it's just that nice in Chicago.


They're not concerned with the potholes per se, but with the possible additional work those potholes could cause them. It is not the police's normal job to deal with runaway elephants, either, but if there's one in the middle of the road, do you think they wouldn't respond to that call? The emergency number is to be used for emergencies in progress, but it can also be used to alert authorities to conditions which could cause emergencies, as well. There's no reason to believe that the police wouldn't care about possible consequences of this pothole, since they demonstrably did care, demonstrably did send officers out, and demonstrably did what they were able to do to make the situation safer. Did they do that because they secretly wanted to be road workers and fill the pothole themselves? Did they do it because it's their job to fix potholes? Of course not. They acted to minimize future work for themselves and future damage to citizens and their property. That is what they are supposed to do. Just because it isn't the job of the police to actually fix that giant dangerous hole in the road does not mean that they don't care about it or that suggesting that they would want to know about it is absurd.
 
2014-03-12 07:50:40 AM  

untaken_name: GoldSpider: untaken_name: They are responsible for doing things like cleaning up wrecks and fixing injuries caused by potholes. You really couldn't make that leap in logic?

I imagine first-responders have many more immediate, actual emergencies to concern themselves with than potholes, but maybe it's just that nice in Chicago.

They're not concerned with the potholes per se, but with the possible additional work those potholes could cause them. It is not the police's normal job to deal with runaway elephants, either, but if there's one in the middle of the road, do you think they wouldn't respond to that call? The emergency number is to be used for emergencies in progress, but it can also be used to alert authorities to conditions which could cause emergencies, as well. There's no reason to believe that the police wouldn't care about possible consequences of this pothole, since they demonstrably did care, demonstrably did send officers out, and demonstrably did what they were able to do to make the situation safer. Did they do that because they secretly wanted to be road workers and fill the pothole themselves? Did they do it because it's their job to fix potholes? Of course not. They acted to minimize future work for themselves and future damage to citizens and their property. That is what they are supposed to do. Just because it isn't the job of the police to actually fix that giant dangerous hole in the road does not mean that they don't care about it or that suggesting that they would want to know about it is absurd.


*cough*

"A squad car came. We found cones next to a building and put two of them up around the hole. One fell in the hole or someone threw it in there," said Howlett, whose father, Mike, was a longtime Il. Secretary of State who defeated incumbent Gov. Dan Walker in the 1976 Democratic primary only to lose the general election to Republican Jim Thompson.
Edward Howlett said the police officer "called it in on the radio and the dispatcher told him Streets and Sanitation would be alerted. He told them, `This is going to be a disaster if a bus or something hits this hole.' " But, City Hall didn't swing into action until the Sun-Times posted the story.
 
2014-03-12 07:54:27 AM  

NickelP: Howlett, whose father, Mike, was a longtime Il. Secretary of State who defeated incumbent Gov. Dan Walker in the 1976 Democratic primary only to lose the general election to Republican Jim Thompson.

what was with giving everyone's old ass political history in this? None of that seemed relevant at all.


Because explaining the family political connections shows why anything was done at all.  If he hadn't had some minor connections, most likely that hole would still be unmarked.
 
2014-03-12 07:54:37 AM  
A two day or longer wait, due to an exercise in bureaucratic brilliance. One reason I hate living in larger cities.
 
2014-03-12 07:57:18 AM  
i266.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-12 07:57:42 AM  

untaken_name: The emergency number is to be used for emergencies in progress, but it can also be used to alert authorities to conditions which could cause emergencies, as well. There's no reason to believe that the police wouldn't care about possible consequences of this pothole, since they demonstrably did care, demonstrably did send officers out, and demonstrably did what they were able to do to make the situation safer.


Evidently this situation wasn't considered such that would demand an immediate response.  Y
 
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