If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Patheos)   Rapes on Christian college campus result in expulsion of students. Fark: The victims, not the attackers   (patheos.com) divider line 285
    More: Florida, Pensacola Christian College, Bob Jones University, god, honor code, Patrick Henry College, sex crimes  
•       •       •

11656 clicks; posted to Main » on 12 Mar 2014 at 3:39 AM (41 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



285 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | » | Last | Show all
 
2014-03-12 10:52:44 AM  
I see that Fark's Conservative dumbass racial apologist has entered the thread.
 
2014-03-12 10:54:47 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Bullseyed: he couldn't just say "oh yeah I was Catholic and went to Church" and get in to heaven

You are assuming that someone who has violated the first commandment their entire lives will get into heaven.  That's a bit of a stretch.


Why would they not get into Heaven? The bible states that with Jesus's blood your sins are washed clean.

We all get into heaven if we love the Jesus.
 
2014-03-12 10:55:56 AM  

pkellmey: Uncool story - My sister went to Duke and knew 2 of the girls who were raped by important players on the basketball team during a winning season.


Which means they went to a party, got black out drunk and decided to have sex with the guys and changed their mind a day or two later when the guys told everyone in the school.
 
2014-03-12 10:57:49 AM  

Bullseyed: if the story here is true, it is probably liberals pretending to be Christians to advance their cause.


If anyone needs more proof that conservatives are out of their farking trees, look up an inch or so.
 
Ant
2014-03-12 10:57:50 AM  

MagicMissile: What is described in this story, if it's true... It is an evil organization that is falsely calling itself Christian and getting away with it.


No true Scotsman would do that!
 
2014-03-12 10:59:22 AM  

Bullseyed: pkellmey: Uncool story - My sister went to Duke and knew 2 of the girls who were raped by important players on the basketball team during a winning season.

Which means they went to a party, got black out drunk and decided to have sex with the guys and changed their mind a day or two later when the guys told everyone in the school.


Some stories of rape are made up by the accuser. Many stories of rape are ignored by the authorities. Pretty much every major city in the country have a basement full of fridges full of years old untested rape kits.

You don't get to say anyone who says they were raped are lying, any more then I get to say you have an IQ higher them the temperature outside.

//the reason being they are both abusive lies, Bull Seyed
 
2014-03-12 10:59:25 AM  

Fury Pilot: Also,


Wow, um, I didn't mean to offend you so badly.  Lol.  I think google was ordering our search hits differently.  That's all.  I still think that.  I rarely look at arts websites online.   And what you linked is still a blog about no crime being reported.
 
2014-03-12 10:59:34 AM  

Bullseyed: pkellmey: Uncool story - My sister went to Duke and knew 2 of the girls who were raped by important players on the basketball team during a winning season.

Which means they went to a party, got black out drunk and decided to have sex with the guys and changed their mind a day or two later when the guys told everyone in the school.


You might want to consider using your super-powered cognition for good instead of just playing on the internet all day.
 
2014-03-12 10:59:52 AM  

Bullseyed: pkellmey: Uncool story - My sister went to Duke and knew 2 of the girls who were raped by important players on the basketball team during a winning season.

Which means they went to a party, got black out drunk and decided to have sex with the guys and changed their mind a day or two later when the guys told everyone in the school.


Haha, it's funny, because someone got raped, and you're pretending they're the bad ones.  "Those women and their bodily autonomy, amiright?"  You  literally know nothing about the case, but you're ready to blame the victims.

Oh, by the way, did you know, OJ's ex-wife committed suicide to blame it on him?
 
2014-03-12 11:01:28 AM  

nmrsnr: FTFA: "One night in May, however, she was grabbed, dragged into a construction area, beaten, restrained with bungee cord and duct tape, and then raped. As he was leaving her there, she recognized him as her boyfriend. A campus security guard discovered her, still restrained with the cord and tape, and took her to the campus clinic to file a report. In the next 24 hours, she went to the hospital, reported her attack to the police, and stayed the night with her parents. However, when she arrived back on campus with a black eye and a broken arm, her family was confronted by the dean of women and told that Beth was being expelled "because she is a fornicator."

PCC took no action against Beth's boyfriend. He graduated with honors and is now a pastor."

Okay, there has to be something missing from this story. I know that most women don't report rape, but here it says she filed a report. Even if she failed to go through with pressing charges, kidnapping and false imprisonment (and potentially attempted murder for leaving her there bound) are all crimes for which the victim doesn't have to press charges, the state can. So even if the school didn't take action, the guy should have been arrested and had a trial. The article makes no mention of this one way or the other. If he had a trial and was acquitted, then the college shouldn't have taken any action against him, because in the eyes of the law he is innocent. If he was never brought to trial despite the evidence, there is more screwed up here than a Christian college's honor code.


The B.S. meter is STRONG in this article.  I was all set to get outraged and then noted that she went to the hospital with a broken arm and obvious injuries resulting from assault and what?  The hospital also did nothing?  B.S.

/fake story is fake.
 
2014-03-12 11:01:28 AM  

MagicMissile: Ok ... If all this is true then just know that this isn't a Christian anything .... Christianity teaches that everything described in this story from the brutal assaults, rapes, expelling the victims , calling them " dirty vessels " and so on are all very evil things to do . Christianity teaches love, compassion, forgiveness, and that we are all imperfect but that God has love for all of us. We need only admit that we are sinners and reject our sins as much as we can , and accept Jesus Christ as our savior.

What is described in this story, if it's true... It is an evil organization that is falsely calling itself Christian and getting away with it. There should be an investigation , arrests made and people jailed over this . That college should be shut down as well . It should be a felony to falsely claim you represent a religion for personal gain and or to hijack a religion by using its name and then committing your crimes.


Please stop using the "No True Scotsman" defense. I am an atheist, and so are most of my family and friends. Morality is not taught exclusively through religion, it is easy to figure out right from wrong, even for us heathens. Humans can be evil, and saying that only TRUE christians are good people make your argument insulting to those of us who lead exemplary lives without having an imaginary friend to scare them into righteousness. Also, eat a dick.
 
2014-03-12 11:02:31 AM  

ikanreed: Bullseyed: pkellmey: Uncool story - My sister went to Duke and knew 2 of the girls who were raped by important players on the basketball team during a winning season.

Which means they went to a party, got black out drunk and decided to have sex with the guys and changed their mind a day or two later when the guys told everyone in the school.

Haha, it's funny, because someone got raped, and you're pretending they're the bad ones.  "Those women and their bodily autonomy, amiright?"  You  literally know nothing about the case, but you're ready to blame the victims.

Oh, by the way, did you know, OJ's ex-wife committed suicide to blame it on him?


i.huffpost.com
- ooooo I knew it! That biatch always had it out for me!
 
2014-03-12 11:05:00 AM  

cervier: sallys: a) they should not be accredited schools
b) I hope it happens to that guys daughter


I deduct that you are wishing rape on a (hypothetical) girl that has nothing to do with the action of her father?!?!  Newsflash you are a sick person...



Numbers 14:18 -- The LORD is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.
 
2014-03-12 11:06:37 AM  

Bullseyed: pkellmey: Uncool story - My sister went to Duke and knew 2 of the girls who were raped by important players on the basketball team during a winning season.

Which means they went to a party, got black out drunk and decided to have sex with the guys and changed their mind a day or two later when the guys told everyone in the school.


Just out of interest, if a women close to you (girlfriend, wife, sister, daughter) came to you and said she'd been raped, is there anything she could say that would convince you it was true... or would you just assume she was a slut?
 
2014-03-12 11:08:29 AM  
Christianity, the so-called "religion of peace" strikes again.
 
2014-03-12 11:08:56 AM  

MinkeyMan: Bullseyed: pkellmey: Uncool story - My sister went to Duke and knew 2 of the girls who were raped by important players on the basketball team during a winning season.

Which means they went to a party, got black out drunk and decided to have sex with the guys and changed their mind a day or two later when the guys told everyone in the school.

Just out of interest, if a women close to you (girlfriend, wife, sister, daughter) came to you and said she'd been raped, is there anything she could say that would convince you it was true... or would you just assume she was a slut?


Dude, I have a feeling that even if they had been wearing a burka that he'd bring up something about needing an escort.
 
2014-03-12 11:09:32 AM  

Begoggle: Christianity, the so-called "religion of peace" strikes again.


Aren't they all religions of peace, really?
 
Ant
2014-03-12 11:09:38 AM  

untaken_name: Well, they certainly aren't following the tenets of that religion, which is typically how we define "religious", so I can see the other side, too.


Which tenets? Some Christians think that all that is required is to accept Jesus' sacrifice. Some think that good works are required. Some think that God has already chosen who will be saved, so there is no way to get yourself into Heaven through acts.

Like it or not, these are Christians. They might not be your brand of Christians, but they are Christians nonetheless.
 
Ant
2014-03-12 11:11:32 AM  

rzrwiresunrise: Oh, and fark that term "rape culture."


Why?
 
2014-03-12 11:14:36 AM  

tlars699: MinkeyMan: Bullseyed: pkellmey: Uncool story - My sister went to Duke and knew 2 of the girls who were raped by important players on the basketball team during a winning season.

Which means they went to a party, got black out drunk and decided to have sex with the guys and changed their mind a day or two later when the guys told everyone in the school.

Just out of interest, if a women close to you (girlfriend, wife, sister, daughter) came to you and said she'd been raped, is there anything she could say that would convince you it was true... or would you just assume she was a slut?

Dude, I have a feeling that even if they had been wearing a burka that he'd bring up something about needing an escort.


His first question would be, "Why were you out of the house?"
 
2014-03-12 11:16:14 AM  

stonicus: tlars699: Not to Godwin the "They're not really Xtians!!" group or anything, but Hitler was a Christian, and used Christianity as a front for all of his evil malicious deeds. That's part of the reason all of the Christians in Germany were so willing to follow him.

If you're a murderer, you're not a christian.  Hitler may have said he was, but he wasn't.
I can say I am a super hero if I want to, it doesn't make it true.


Yeah, uh, no. Murderers, rapists, and thieves can be Christian. Stop making excuses. If you identify as Christian, go to church, praise Jeebus and then rape hitchhikers, you are a christian rapist. Also, eat a dick.
 
2014-03-12 11:17:51 AM  

Rozotorical: Marcus Aurelius: Bullseyed: he couldn't just say "oh yeah I was Catholic and went to Church" and get in to heaven

You are assuming that someone who has violated the first commandment their entire lives will get into heaven.  That's a bit of a stretch.

Why would they not get into Heaven? The bible states that with Jesus's blood your sins are washed clean.

We all get into heaven if we love the Jesus.


The first commandment clearly states that you are to have no other gods before God.  If you claim you have to go through Jesus to get to God, you're putting another God before the first One.  And don't tell me about the trinity.  That's the math Christians do to make themselves feel better about violating the first commandment.

On the plus side, all the descriptions of Heaven I've heard sound dreadful.  So going to hell won't be all that bad.  Especially since our bodies won't be there.
 
2014-03-12 11:19:13 AM  
Woo, got me a motherfarker on ignore.
 
2014-03-12 11:23:12 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Rozotorical: Marcus Aurelius: Bullseyed: he couldn't just say "oh yeah I was Catholic and went to Church" and get in to heaven

You are assuming that someone who has violated the first commandment their entire lives will get into heaven.  That's a bit of a stretch.

Why would they not get into Heaven? The bible states that with Jesus's blood your sins are washed clean.

We all get into heaven if we love the Jesus.

The first commandment clearly states that you are to have no other gods before God.  If you claim you have to go through Jesus to get to God, you're putting another God before the first One.  And don't tell me about the trinity.  That's the math Christians do to make themselves feel better about violating the first commandment.

On the plus side, all the descriptions of Heaven I've heard sound dreadful.  So going to hell won't be all that bad.  Especially since our bodies won't be there.


I always thought that commandment meant God had to be your First and that was why he couldn't just make Jesus out of dirt or bones and shiat.

He had to fark a virgin to make a new God. That is why you have to love that new God, then he will let you come into is cold cold city of metal.
 
2014-03-12 11:24:57 AM  

Fury Pilot: Found at least one on the first page :  http://www.vice.com/read/sexual-abuse-has-become-a-huge-problem-for-a m ericas-bible-colleges


That Vice article is based on an interview with Samantha Field. Samantha Field is the writer of the article linked on the post we are commenting on. She attended PCC, accused her boyfriend of raping her twice and then somehow was not kicked out of PCC and even graduated in 2010. So according to her claims that she provides no references, links, police reports the two people in her blog post were kicked out of school next day for being raped, yet Samantha Field was not.


She seems to have a vendetta against the school because of inaction on their part when she reported she was raped. Maybe she was, maybe she wasn't, but I seriously doubt the the two rapes she wrote about are legit. Police here in Pensacola are probably likely to blame the girl if it is her boyfriend she is accusing and there are no injuries, but a broken arm and black eye are likely to get the accused a few bumps and bruises when they arrest him. Since that apparently didn't happen and he managed to graduate on time, I have trouble believing this girl's story.
 
2014-03-12 11:29:28 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-12 11:35:35 AM  

rzrwiresunrise: Weaver95: rzrwiresunrise: I'm skeptical. I'm not saying this doesn't happen at colleges, I'm just saying these examples seem a little far-fetched.

no, its been something of a theme lately.  stories of rapes and rape culture have been hinted at for years about these places.  its only just recently that details have started to leak out.  I can only assume that someone forgot to pay their yearly bribe money to keep things quiet and that's why we're getting the nasty details.

Yeah, and the cousin of a friend that lived next door to my accountant told me the house down the street is haunted. Like I said, I'm not saying these things don't happen, but TFA gives little in the way of corroboration. The Vice.com article was much more convincing (thanks, FuryPilot).

Oh, and fark that term "rape culture."


So, sorry miss, you weren't raped because the reporter who wrote the article I read sucked at his job? Seems like a damn good argument to me.
 
2014-03-12 11:40:32 AM  

Lady Indica: She was rescued by campus police (so really no question here about the rape


Oh, really?  How does that guarantee a rape occurred, Sherlock?
 
2014-03-12 11:48:33 AM  

skozlaw: At this point I view religious people - at least those that are religious to the extent that they would seek out a private religious school with strict "moral" codes like the ones referenced in TFA - like smokers. There was a time you could claim ignorance, but, at this point, the risks of hanging out with nutty religious crackpots and subjecting yourself to their rules and contracts should be pretty obvious. If you choose to accept those risks then the consequences are entirely on your own head. No suing the tobacco companies when you get lung cancer any more, no complaining about religious colleges when you get kicked out for being a rape victim.

If they weren't treated fairly by law enforcement or the courts in relation to the criminal end of it, that's another matter not brought up in the article, but, as for their expulsions?

Too f'ing bad. Maybe try hanging out with people who have a slightly more intelligent view of human sexuality than this guy:

[lgsquirrel.files.wordpress.com image 400x295]


So in a nutshell, blame the victim...
 
2014-03-12 11:50:05 AM  

nmrsnr: Okay, there has to be something missing from this story. I know that most women don't report rape, but here it says she filed a report. Even if she failed to go through with pressing charges, kidnapping and false imprisonment (and potentially attempted murder for leaving her there bound) are all crimes for which the victim doesn't have to press charges, the state can. So even if the school didn't take action, the guy should have been arrested and had a trial.


Campus police tend to be in line with the school administration.
 
2014-03-12 11:52:39 AM  
Here's the worst part:

The school feels they are addressing the problem in the best way possible, either from a religious standpoint, or a pragmatic PR standpoint.

I am getting more and more disgusted at just how often people are treat as means or obstacles to an end.

Shamelessly lifted from Pratchett...


"...There is a very interesting debate raging at the moment on the nature of sin, for example."
"And what do they think? Against it, are they?"
"It is not as simple as that. It's not a black and white issue. There are so many shades of gray."
"Nope."
"Pardon?"
There's no grays, only white that's got grubby. I'm surprised you don't know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That's what sin is."
"It's a lot more complicated than that--"
"No it ain't. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they're getting worried that they won't like the truth. People as things, that's where it starts."
"Oh, I'm sure there are worse crimes-"
"But they Starts with thinking about people as things..."

Or for the more high-brow among you:

"Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of any other, never merely as a means to an end, but always at the same time as an end." - Kant
 
2014-03-12 11:55:23 AM  

Kali-Yuga: cretinbob:

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)      If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father.  Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

And then of course according to Deuteronomy 22:13-21 she must be stoned to death on her wedding day for not being a virgin.


No.
1. Don't make stuff up.
2. There have to be witnesses - plural - for the stoning to apply. He gets the lash if he has no proof - and witnesses.
 
2014-03-12 12:02:04 PM  

Clever Neologism: "Act in such a way that you treat humanity, whether in your own person or in the person of any other, never merely as a means to an end, but always at the same time as an end." - Kant


Sure, the basic idea is nice, but once you start looking at the conclusions Kant draws in his categorical imperatives you go "really?"
 
2014-03-12 12:02:12 PM  

trappedspirit: Lady Indica: She was rescued by campus police (so really no question here about the rape

Oh, really?  How does that guarantee a rape occurred, Sherlock?


Broken arm, bruised and battered, found tied and taped up by the kampus kops. She did it to herself, einstien[SIC]?
 
2014-03-12 12:10:19 PM  

supageil: nmrsnr: FTFA: "One night in May, however, she was grabbed, dragged into a construction area, beaten, restrained with bungee cord and duct tape, and then raped. As he was leaving her there, she recognized him as her boyfriend. A campus security guard discovered her, still restrained with the cord and tape, and took her to the campus clinic to file a report. In the next 24 hours, she went to the hospital, reported her attack to the police, and stayed the night with her parents. However, when she arrived back on campus with a black eye and a broken arm, her family was confronted by the dean of women and told that Beth was being expelled "because she is a fornicator."

PCC took no action against Beth's boyfriend. He graduated with honors and is now a pastor."

Okay, there has to be something missing from this story. I know that most women don't report rape, but here it says she filed a report. Even if she failed to go through with pressing charges, kidnapping and false imprisonment (and potentially attempted murder for leaving her there bound) are all crimes for which the victim doesn't have to press charges, the state can. So even if the school didn't take action, the guy should have been arrested and had a trial. The article makes no mention of this one way or the other. If he had a trial and was acquitted, then the college shouldn't have taken any action against him, because in the eyes of the law he is innocent. If he was never brought to trial despite the evidence, there is more screwed up here than a Christian college's honor code.

You know how I know you've never been to Pensacola?


I went to BJU for a year so I have some knowledge about the environments these fudie institutions breed.  If Pensacola is anything like Greenville, SC, many of the local cops went to the school in question.  So the rape kits were conveniently "misplaced".   The cops in Greenville used to call in students breaking student rules to the Dean all the time (rules mind you, not laws).  The students would then get in trouble.

I wish I could say that this story sounds "fishy" or that the schools weren't this corrupt, but it simply isn't the case.

/The More You Know.
 
2014-03-12 12:11:51 PM  

Kali-Yuga: she must be stoned... on her wedding day


i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-12 12:12:27 PM  

doosh: nmrsnr: FTFA: "One night in May, however, she was grabbed, dragged into a construction area, beaten, restrained with bungee cord and duct tape, and then raped. As he was leaving her there, she recognized him as her boyfriend. A campus security guard discovered her, still restrained with the cord and tape, and took her to the campus clinic to file a report. In the next 24 hours, she went to the hospital, reported her attack to the police, and stayed the night with her parents. However, when she arrived back on campus with a black eye and a broken arm, her family was confronted by the dean of women and told that Beth was being expelled "because she is a fornicator."

PCC took no action against Beth's boyfriend. He graduated with honors and is now a pastor."

Okay, there has to be something missing from this story. I know that most women don't report rape, but here it says she filed a report. Even if she failed to go through with pressing charges, kidnapping and false imprisonment (and potentially attempted murder for leaving her there bound) are all crimes for which the victim doesn't have to press charges, the state can. So even if the school didn't take action, the guy should have been arrested and had a trial. The article makes no mention of this one way or the other. If he had a trial and was acquitted, then the college shouldn't have taken any action against him, because in the eyes of the law he is innocent. If he was never brought to trial despite the evidence, there is more screwed up here than a Christian college's honor code.

Maybe I'm getting jaded from having been on Fark too long but my spidey senses were a-tingling along the same lines. The whole article reads like something posted to outrage you but with nary a detail that can be used to verify any of this actually happened. If this in fact actually happened that family would (or should) have reported this to the local media and it would have become national news overnight.


Yeah, they should have reported it, but just because they didn't doesn't mean it didn't happen. Religious people bury the truth and cover up for their abusers all the time.

CSB: Back when I was a freshman in college I was dating a Pentecostal girl who was a senior in high school. Her and her friends were all in this youth group at their church. One of the girls in the group was overweight and depressed so the very creepy youth pastor began meeting with her one on one to "counsel" her, an after a couple of sessions of him making improper suggestions, he just flat out raped her. After a few weeks she finally told her family and friends what happened and they confronted the youth pastor with the church elders. He admitted to forcing himself on her, but blamed her (and Satan) for tempting him. The church elders agreed with him. To keep attending the curch (and to prevent being ostracized by their friends in the church), she and her family had to go in front of the congregation the next Sunday and apologize to her rapist and his wife for tempting him and for the hardship she'd brought upon his family and the church. She attempted suicide a few months later and then developed a bad drug problem. An the cherry on top is about a year later they fired the guy after he was caught taking money from the youth group "missionary" fund. They couldn't tolerate such a violation of the church. So to recap: Raping a minor you are in a position of authority over, a-ok, but stealing a few hundred dollars from the ski trip to Aspen "missionary" fund, completely unacceptable.
 
2014-03-12 12:15:07 PM  

Kali-Yuga: cretinbob:

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)      If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father.  Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

And then of course according to Deuteronomy 22:13-21 she must be stoned to death on her wedding day for not being a virgin.


Getting somebody THAT stoned takes a lot of weed!
 
2014-03-12 12:18:42 PM  

nmrsnr: FTFA: "One night in May, however, she was grabbed, dragged into a construction area, beaten, restrained with bungee cord and duct tape, and then raped. As he was leaving her there, she recognized him as her boyfriend. A campus security guard discovered her, still restrained with the cord and tape, and took her to the campus clinic to file a report. In the next 24 hours, she went to the hospital, reported her attack to the police, and stayed the night with her parents. However, when she arrived back on campus with a black eye and a broken arm, her family was confronted by the dean of women and told that Beth was being expelled "because she is a fornicator."

PCC took no action against Beth's boyfriend. He graduated with honors and is now a pastor."

Okay, there has to be something missing from this story. I know that most women don't report rape, but here it says she filed a report. Even if she failed to go through with pressing charges, kidnapping and false imprisonment (and potentially attempted murder for leaving her there bound) are all crimes for which the victim doesn't have to press charges, the state can. So even if the school didn't take action, the guy should have been arrested and had a trial. The article makes no mention of this one way or the other. If he had a trial and was acquitted, then the college shouldn't have taken any action against him, because in the eyes of the law he is innocent. If he was never brought to trial despite the evidence, there is more screwed up here than a Christian college's honor code.


Considering the high-profile rape cases that have been in the news lately, police departments seems to have a very "meh" attitude to rape reports, even in very "obvious" cases such as this.  It's farking shocking and a damn shame.

Stubenville - a good chunk of the town and a CNN report focused on how the rapists football careers where ruined. How about the victims lives?

Maryville - despite video evidence, the case never gets to trial (one of the accused has a US senator relative) and one of the victims houses is burned down.

New Zealand Roast Busters - There was a teen rape gang that lured underaged girls (like 13 years old) and piled them with alcohol and drugs, raped them, and laughed about it on Facebook. They where reported to the police multiple times who claimed they couldn't do anything, despite the fact that having sex with someone under 16 is considered Statutory Rape under NZ law.

Detroit - Thousands of rape kits went un-tested due to "lack of funds" for years. A campaign finally secured funding and even though they only tested a few hundred they discovered 15 serial rapists, one of whom became a sexual serial killer and was arrested after killing 5 women. If they had tested the rape kits then they could have caught him before they started killing.

Moreover, I wouldn't be surprised if the family declined to prosecute to "avoid the stress of a trial" AKA "let's pretend this didn't happen and quietly go away".

People with this neo-con evangelical beliefs probably believe that it's always the her fault anyway for "tempting him" because men can't control themselves at all so women have to wear burkas to protect themselves.
 
2014-03-12 12:19:15 PM  

MagicMissile: Weaver95: AirForceVet: Sounds like a great reason not to send your kids to THAT school.

Cue "You're gonna get raped" meme.

as bad as this is, were it only confined to the elite few christians all locked in the same campus and raping one another in between classes, that would be bad enough.  ok, horrific enough really.  But the crazy christian elite who run these schools train to bring their toxic culture out of their cozy little rape boxes and inflict those ideals on the rest of the country.  that's the end goal - a 'christian nation'.  in the interim, they'll settle for taking over local and state governments and putting their twisted ideology into practice.  these people scare me.  not just because they see women as disposable sex objects but because they honestly believe that they can do no wrong.  they see themselves as the chosen of their lord god almighty - by definition they CANNOT be in the wrong.  that sort of world view is very very dangerous.

It's not Christians doing these things ... It's sick and evil ..people..... If you can call them that..... Using Christianity as a smoke screen to commit their crimes . Unfortunately there are a lot of non religious evil twisted farkers out there that see Christianity and other religious venues as a place to hide and find victims. Laws need to be put in place to better detect and track these types of people, and like I mentioned it should become a felony with very strict penalties for abusing religious names and venues in this manner including incarceration and deportation as well as permanent exile.


I hear they're not even true Scotsmen!
 
2014-03-12 12:25:14 PM  
aedude01:
You know how I know you've never been to Pensacola?

I went to BJU for a year so I have some knowledge about the environments these fudie institutions breed.  If Pensacola is anything like Greenville, SC, many of the local cops went to the school in question.  So the rape kits were conveniently "misplaced".   The cops in Greenville used to call in students breaking student rules to the Dean all the time (rules mind you, not l ...


THIS^ doesn't just happen at christian schools either. Secular/State run schools in smaller towns have this problem, too. Luckily, the townies don't like the college in my town so much, so if a newspaper catches hold of a story like this, those rape kits are found in short order.
 
2014-03-12 12:29:20 PM  

bdub77: They just earned their accreditation in 2013. I think we can forcibly take that from them.

You know what? On second thought...

[www.zerosun.com image 490x290]


I agree.

/We have to make sure they still work.
 
2014-03-12 12:32:02 PM  

Ant: rzrwiresunrise: Oh, and fark that term "rape culture."

Why?


Cuz there's no such thing. It's this amorphous term thrown around to make it seem like there's some grand conspiracy to rape women, and the only distinctive feature one has to have to be a member of this "culture" is a penis. It's an insinuated accusation. There's no secret handshake, no peculiar argot, no hidden sign or wink that allows rapists to identify each other and exchange traditions and form a "culture" around rape. "Patriarchy" is almost as bad, but that at least has some foundation to it. If one wants to talk about female powerlessness in a male-dominated society, one in which rape is swept under the rug, please, have a rational discussion. Throw around the "rape culture" epithet, and all that's accomplished is man-shaming.

And cue the projection/something-to-hide/MRA responses in 3... 2... 1...
 
2014-03-12 12:36:33 PM  

rzrwiresunrise: Ant: rzrwiresunrise: Oh, and fark that term "rape culture."

Why?

Cuz there's no such thing. It's this amorphous term thrown around to make it seem like there's some grand conspiracy to rape women, and the only distinctive feature one has to have to be a member of this "culture" is a penis. It's an insinuated accusation. There's no secret handshake, no peculiar argot, no hidden sign or wink that allows rapists to identify each other and exchange traditions and form a "culture" around rape. "Patriarchy" is almost as bad, but that at least has some foundation to it. If one wants to talk about female powerlessness in a male-dominated society, one in which rape is swept under the rug, please, have a rational discussion. Throw around the "rape culture" epithet, and all that's accomplished is man-shaming.

And cue the projection/something-to-hide/MRA responses in 3... 2... 1...


Um?
You're overgeneralizing the meaning of the term. No- it is inherent in our culture that any female should be on the constant lookout for her well-being against being raped, or she is considered complicit in being attacked.
It's a more specific term for "blaming the victim" that is pervasive in our society; "rape culture" identifies that this blaming the victim for being a victim, is more apparent in the cases involving rape victims, and how they are unable to report it without being judged for their actions simultaneously.
 
2014-03-12 12:39:13 PM  

formerfloozy: stonicus: tlars699: Not to Godwin the "They're not really Xtians!!" group or anything, but Hitler was a Christian, and used Christianity as a front for all of his evil malicious deeds. That's part of the reason all of the Christians in Germany were so willing to follow him.

If you're a murderer, you're not a christian.  Hitler may have said he was, but he wasn't.
I can say I am a super hero if I want to, it doesn't make it true.

Yeah, uh, no. Murderers, rapists, and thieves can be Christian. Stop making excuses. If you identify as Christian, go to church, praise Jeebus and then rape hitchhikers, you are a christian rapist. Also, eat a dick.


Well, I'm not a Christian, so I guess I shouldn't speak for them...
 
2014-03-12 12:42:02 PM  

MagicMissile: Ok ... If all this is true then just know that this isn't a Christian anything .... Christianity teaches that everything described in this story from the brutal assaults, rapes, expelling the victims , calling them " dirty vessels " and so on are all very evil things to do . Christianity teaches love, compassion, forgiveness, and that we are all imperfect but that God has love for all of us. We need only admit that we are sinners and reject our sins as much as we can , and accept Jesus Christ as our savior.

What is described in this story, if it's true... It is an evil organization that is falsely calling itself Christian and getting away with it. There should be an investigation , arrests made and people jailed over this . That college should be shut down as well . It should be a felony to falsely claim you represent a religion for personal gain and or to hijack a religion by using its name and then committing your crimes.


They are evangelical neo-cons, their whole movement is to return America to either the 1950s or 1850s, depending on their particular movement.

Actually reading the bible is not a part of their "religion", being a cheerleader for Christ and pretending to be June Cleaver is all they need to do to enter into the kingdom of heaven.

I left the regular neo-con movement when I actually read the Bible and studied it, applied logic to a bunch of their tenants such as "We shall ban abortions AND birth control! Then block all funding for unplanned pregnancies! It's what Jesus would want!".
 
2014-03-12 12:42:33 PM  

stonicus: formerfloozy: stonicus: tlars699: Not to Godwin the "They're not really Xtians!!" group or anything, but Hitler was a Christian, and used Christianity as a front for all of his evil malicious deeds. That's part of the reason all of the Christians in Germany were so willing to follow him.

If you're a murderer, you're not a christian.  Hitler may have said he was, but he wasn't.
I can say I am a super hero if I want to, it doesn't make it true.

Yeah, uh, no. Murderers, rapists, and thieves can be Christian. Stop making excuses. If you identify as Christian, go to church, praise Jeebus and then rape hitchhikers, you are a christian rapist. Also, eat a dick.

Well, I'm not a Christian, so I guess I shouldn't speak for them...

img.fark.net
 
2014-03-12 12:43:34 PM  
THIS WHOLE THREAD:
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-12 12:44:24 PM  

Farxist Marxist: MagicMissile: deportation as well as permanent exile.

What makes you think you can foist your misfits on another country?


No.. its just that Religions have what we Christians call "Missionaries", people sent abroad to spread the religion.

Well.. there are rapists, child molesters and other evil people that will slip through the cracks and join religions because it gives them a place to hide and a place to find victims, it also gives them the ability to travel under protection...

So in the even that some of these people committing these crimes are on a Mission or something similar, they could be deported back to their original country and exiled from ever returning to the country they committed their crimes in.

It is a very real thing that people use Christianity as a place to hide and commit their crimes, or that people will join and do stuff like this just to give the religion a black eye.
 
2014-03-12 12:46:24 PM  

tlars699: rzrwiresunrise: Ant: rzrwiresunrise: Oh, and fark that term "rape culture."

Why?

Cuz there's no such thing. It's this amorphous term thrown around to make it seem like there's some grand conspiracy to rape women, and the only distinctive feature one has to have to be a member of this "culture" is a penis. It's an insinuated accusation. There's no secret handshake, no peculiar argot, no hidden sign or wink that allows rapists to identify each other and exchange traditions and form a "culture" around rape. "Patriarchy" is almost as bad, but that at least has some foundation to it. If one wants to talk about female powerlessness in a male-dominated society, one in which rape is swept under the rug, please, have a rational discussion. Throw around the "rape culture" epithet, and all that's accomplished is man-shaming.

And cue the projection/something-to-hide/MRA responses in 3... 2... 1...

Um?
You're overgeneralizing the meaning of the term. No- it is inherent in our culture that any female should be on the constant lookout for her well-being against being raped, or she is considered complicit in being attacked.
It's a more specific term for "blaming the victim" that is pervasive in our society; "rape culture" identifies that this blaming the victim for being a victim, is more apparent in the cases involving rape victims, and how they are unable to report it without being judged for their actions simultaneously.


I'd like to refer you to your post:

tlars699: THIS WHOLE THREAD:
[img.fark.net image 137x90]

 
Displayed 50 of 285 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
On Twitter





In Other Media


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report