ThrobblefootSpectre: wurdjunky: This article is a half-assed ripoff of a much more in depth story on Patrick Henry College from a few weeks ago.Well, to be fair, this wasn't an article, it was a guest blog on "Slacktivist."A google for Pensacola Christian College shows no news articles about rape, or any sort of crime or problems at all, in the first 4 pages of hits.
doglover: kortex: What do you expect for sending your kids to a school based around made up crap?Math is just made up crap. You take some very simple rules, extrapolate a bit, and you get math. A perfect system. In the real real universe, no system is perfect, so math doesn't accurately model it. So we go back to the math, make up more stuff, try again, etc. etc. etc. Eventually we get a math that ACTUALLY WORKS to a useful degree of accuracy. Physics is chock full of it. But if you study physics for more than 10 minutes, you realize that there's still a non-trivial margin of error. That's because math is made up while matter is not. So you run the numbers a lot and make sure your math is as close as possible to the real thing. Even then, sometimes we have to re-kajigger the math to make it work again.Religion is kind of the same thing. Take the "Word of God"TM (It's really not. It's the words of many men about the word of god, plus about 50 translations on top, and that's why you study it every week for a lifetime.) Apply, and repeat. When something's not working, back to the altar and meditate upon it and schism that shiat till it's working again. Ideally that's what happens. IdeallyBut the evolution of the mental into the physical is the primary obstacle humans face in life. Almost every problem we face is just another flavor of this sour grape. So right now you have people practicing a wrong Christianity at this school. I say we should help them with compassion in our hearts and in no way spare the rod. Put them back on the cross as it were. Especially the rapists. We can literally have them following in Jesus' footsteps. Big nails are only like $3 each.
JohnnyC: Perhaps if he hadn't said:MagicMissile: Unfortunately there are a lot of non religious evil twisted farkers out there that see Christianity and other religious venues as a place to hide and find victims.... I might be inclined to agree. But he did.If a police officer does something horrible to someone else, do we suddenly say that he/she was never actually a police officer at all and was an anarchist hiding in the police force to look for victims? No... we say, "that police officer did something horrible". That person might get kicked off the police force for their actions, but he/she was still a member of the police.
untaken_name: However, again, we would not say that an anarchist who pretends to be a law enforcer in order to find victims doesn't DOES typify police officers
Fury Pilot: Found at least one on the first page : http://www.vice.com/read/sexual-abuse-has-become-a-huge-problem-for-a m ericas-bible-colleges
rzrwiresunrise: I'm skeptical. I'm not saying this doesn't happen at colleges, I'm just saying these examples seem a little far-fetched.
cretinbob: If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
maram500: -that 2 plus 2 does not equal a precise 4, but something extremely close.
Weaver95: rzrwiresunrise: I'm skeptical. I'm not saying this doesn't happen at colleges, I'm just saying these examples seem a little far-fetched.no, its been something of a theme lately. stories of rapes and rape culture have been hinted at for years about these places. its only just recently that details have started to leak out. I can only assume that someone forgot to pay their yearly bribe money to keep things quiet and that's why we're getting the nasty details.
Lordserb: This article was very insightful, brought out a great deal of information that was fair and impartial to both sides of the story and is likely right on the mark with its opinions.or maybe not...
MagicMissile: Weaver95: AirForceVet: Sounds like a great reason not to send your kids to THAT school.Cue "You're gonna get raped" meme.as bad as this is, were it only confined to the elite few christians all locked in the same campus and raping one another in between classes, that would be bad enough. ok, horrific enough really. But the crazy christian elite who run these schools train to bring their toxic culture out of their cozy little rape boxes and inflict those ideals on the rest of the country. that's the end goal - a 'christian nation'. in the interim, they'll settle for taking over local and state governments and putting their twisted ideology into practice. these people scare me. not just because they see women as disposable sex objects but because they honestly believe that they can do no wrong. they see themselves as the chosen of their lord god almighty - by definition they CANNOT be in the wrong. that sort of world view is very very dangerous.It's not Christians doing these things ... It's sick and evil ..people..... If you can call them that..... Using Christianity as a smoke screen to commit their crimes . Unfortunately there are a lot of non religious evil twisted farkers out there that see Christianity and other religious venues as a place to hide and find victims. Laws need to be put in place to better detect and track these types of people, and like I mentioned it should become a felony with very strict penalties for abusing religious names and venues in this manner including incarceration and deportation as well as permanent exile.
MagicMissile: Ok ... If all this is true then just know that this isn't a Christian anything .... Christianity teaches that everything described in this story from the brutal assaults, rapes, expelling the victims , calling them " dirty vessels " and so on are all very evil things to do . Christianity teaches love, compassion, forgiveness, and that we are all imperfect but that God has love for all of us. We need only admit that we are sinners and reject our sins as much as we can , and accept Jesus Christ as our savior.What is described in this story, if it's true... It is an evil organization that is falsely calling itself Christian and getting away with it. There should be an investigation , arrests made and people jailed over this . That college should be shut down as well . It should be a felony to falsely claim you represent a religion for personal gain and or to hijack a religion by using its name and then committing your crimes.
nmrsnr: FTFA: "One night in May, however, she was grabbed, dragged into a construction area, beaten, restrained with bungee cord and duct tape, and then raped. As he was leaving her there, she recognized him as her boyfriend. A campus security guard discovered her, still restrained with the cord and tape, and took her to the campus clinic to file a report. In the next 24 hours, she went to the hospital, reported her attack to the police, and stayed the night with her parents. However, when she arrived back on campus with a black eye and a broken arm, her family was confronted by the dean of women and told that Beth was being expelled "because she is a fornicator."PCC took no action against Beth's boyfriend. He graduated with honors and is now a pastor."Okay, there has to be something missing from this story. I know that most women don't report rape, but here it says she filed a report. Even if she failed to go through with pressing charges, kidnapping and false imprisonment (and potentially attempted murder for leaving her there bound) are all crimes for which the victim doesn't have to press charges, the state can. So even if the school didn't take action, the guy should have been arrested and had a trial. The article makes no mention of this one way or the other. If he had a trial and was acquitted, then the college shouldn't have taken any action against him, because in the eyes of the law he is innocent. If he was never brought to trial despite the evidence, there is more screwed up here than a Christian college's honor code.
rzrwiresunrise: Weaver95: rzrwiresunrise: I'm skeptical. I'm not saying this doesn't happen at colleges, I'm just saying these examples seem a little far-fetched.no, its been something of a theme lately. stories of rapes and rape culture have been hinted at for years about these places. its only just recently that details have started to leak out. I can only assume that someone forgot to pay their yearly bribe money to keep things quiet and that's why we're getting the nasty details.Yeah, and the cousin of a friend that lived next door to my accountant told me the house down the street is haunted. Like I said, I'm not saying these things don't happen, but TFA gives little in the way of corroboration. The Vice.com article was much more convincing (thanks, FuryPilot).Oh, and fark that term "rape culture."
ThrobblefootSpectre: Fury Pilot: Found at least one on the first page : http://www.vice.com/read/sexual-abuse-has-become-a-huge-problem-for-a m ericas-bible-collegesVice.com. Interesting. Google might be taking you to specific, um, special interest, sites based on your search history. I just repeated the search and see nothing but general admissions information and such in either "News" or "Web" tabs. Anyway.... this post again says nothing about a police report or a crime. It is a third hand account that an accusation was made, no one was expelled (or at least the article doesn't say so), and none of it is verified by the college or anyone else.
timharrod: Not so fast, Sparky. You also owe her dad 50 shekels./lest you think God is soft on rapists
fusillade762: Can we send these people to a country where they'll fit in better? Like Saudi Arabia?a culture that teaches women who have sex are like used toothbrushes and half-eaten candybarsYou can send all those used toothbrushes and half-eaten candybars my way. I'll take them.
Lord Farkwad: fusillade762: Can we send these people to a country where they'll fit in better? Like Saudi Arabia?a culture that teaches women who have sex are like used toothbrushes and half-eaten candybarsYou can send all those used toothbrushes and half-eaten candybars my way. I'll take them."Look at that. A half eaten chocolate bar. It's hardly been touched. Do you want some?"[s10.postimg.org image 640x480]/Obscure?
log_jammin: The article is way too light an verifiable facts for me.and by that I mean, none at all.
log_jammin: Lord Farkwad: fusillade762: Can we send these people to a country where they'll fit in better? Like Saudi Arabia?a culture that teaches women who have sex are like used toothbrushes and half-eaten candybarsYou can send all those used toothbrushes and half-eaten candybars my way. I'll take them."Look at that. A half eaten chocolate bar. It's hardly been touched. Do you want some?"[s10.postimg.org image 640x480]/Obscure?Bunky? How many times I gotta tell ya? The litter box, the litter box!
untaken_name: Well, let's give the author SOME credit. There actually is a Pensacola Christian College.
neongoats: Look, if you havn't figured out that "Pastor" is code for child abusing rape factory, then you don't actually ever read the news or well, participate in America.These pastor factories are just churning out thousands of people just like this guy. They're just raping all over the place.
Weaver95: cozy little rape boxes
MagicMissile: It is an evil organization that is falsely calling itself Christian and getting away with it.
Captain James T. Smirk: I don't know what is worse: the details of the article, or the fact that I am not surprised. Every day I log onto Fark, and every day I read at least a dozen stories about religious organizations, be they churches, universities, charities, or political action groups, that disgust me so much that I almost feel physically ill.
sallys: a) they should not be accredited schoolsb) I hope it happens to that guys daughter
doglover: timharrod: doglover: You're supposed to marry the man who rapes you.It's right there in the Bible.Not so fast, Sparky. You also owe her dad 50 shekels./lest you think God is soft on rapistsTo be fair, have you priced shekels lately? One shekel$125,000 is a lot of money.
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