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2014-03-11 11:50:38 PM
Can we send these people to a country where they'll fit in better? Like Saudi Arabia?


a culture that teaches women who have sex are like used toothbrushes and half-eaten candybars

You can send all those used toothbrushes and half-eaten candybars my way. I'll take them.
 
2014-03-12 12:06:03 AM
You're supposed to marry the man who rapes you.

It's right there in the Bible.
 
2014-03-12 12:14:21 AM
Sounds like a great reason not to send your kids to THAT school.

Cue "You're gonna get raped" meme.
 
2014-03-12 12:53:36 AM

AirForceVet: Sounds like a great reason not to send your kids to THAT school.

Cue "You're gonna get raped" meme.


as bad as this is, were it only confined to the elite few christians all locked in the same campus and raping one another in between classes, that would be bad enough.  ok, horrific enough really.  But the crazy christian elite who run these schools train to bring their toxic culture out of their cozy little rape boxes and inflict those ideals on the rest of the country.  that's the end goal - a 'christian nation'.  in the interim, they'll settle for taking over local and state governments and putting their twisted ideology into practice.  these people scare me.  not just because they see women as disposable sex objects but because they honestly believe that they can do no wrong.  they see themselves as the chosen of their lord god almighty - by definition they CANNOT be in the wrong.  that sort of world view is very very dangerous.
 
2014-03-12 01:24:22 AM
FTFA: "One night in May, however, she was grabbed, dragged into a construction area, beaten, restrained with bungee cord and duct tape, and then raped. As he was leaving her there, she recognized him as her boyfriend. A campus security guard discovered her, still restrained with the cord and tape, and took her to the campus clinic to file a report. In the next 24 hours, she went to the hospital, reported her attack to the police, and stayed the night with her parents. However, when she arrived back on campus with a black eye and a broken arm, her family was confronted by the dean of women and told that Beth was being expelled "because she is a fornicator."

PCC took no action against Beth's boyfriend. He graduated with honors and is now a pastor."

Okay, there has to be something missing from this story. I know that most women don't report rape, but here it says she filed a report. Even if she failed to go through with pressing charges, kidnapping and false imprisonment (and potentially attempted murder for leaving her there bound) are all crimes for which the victim doesn't have to press charges, the state can. So even if the school didn't take action, the guy should have been arrested and had a trial. The article makes no mention of this one way or the other. If he had a trial and was acquitted, then the college shouldn't have taken any action against him, because in the eyes of the law he is innocent. If he was never brought to trial despite the evidence, there is more screwed up here than a Christian college's honor code.
 
2014-03-12 01:24:59 AM
They just earned their accreditation in 2013. I think we can forcibly take that from them.

You know what? On second thought...

www.zerosun.com
 
2014-03-12 02:44:21 AM

fusillade762: Can we send these people to a country where they'll fit in better? Like Saudi Arabia?


a culture that teaches women who have sex are like used toothbrushes and half-eaten candybars

You can send all those used toothbrushes and half-eaten candybars my way. I'll take them.


Ewww!
 
2014-03-12 03:42:29 AM
(Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)

    If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.


Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)

    If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father.  Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
 
2014-03-12 03:46:27 AM
I don't know what is worse: the details of the article, or the fact that I am not surprised. Every day I log onto Fark, and every day I read at least a dozen stories about religious organizations, be they churches, universities, charities, or political action groups, that disgust me so much that I almost feel physically ill.
 
2014-03-12 03:48:44 AM
cretinbob:

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)      If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father.  Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

And then of course according to Deuteronomy 22:13-21 she must be stoned to death on her wedding day for not being a virgin.
 
2014-03-12 03:49:11 AM
It's really creepy that the rapist is now a pastor. Just lovely.
 
2014-03-12 03:49:48 AM

doglover: You're supposed to marry the man who rapes you.

It's right there in the Bible.


Not so fast, Sparky. You also owe her dad 50 shekels.

/lest you think God is soft on rapists
 
2014-03-12 03:51:00 AM

nmrsnr: FTFA: "One night in May, however, she was grabbed, dragged into a construction area, beaten, restrained with bungee cord and duct tape, and then raped. As he was leaving her there, she recognized him as her boyfriend. A campus security guard discovered her, still restrained with the cord and tape, and took her to the campus clinic to file a report. In the next 24 hours, she went to the hospital, reported her attack to the police, and stayed the night with her parents. However, when she arrived back on campus with a black eye and a broken arm, her family was confronted by the dean of women and told that Beth was being expelled "because she is a fornicator."

PCC took no action against Beth's boyfriend. He graduated with honors and is now a pastor."

Okay, there has to be something missing from this story. I know that most women don't report rape, but here it says she filed a report. Even if she failed to go through with pressing charges, kidnapping and false imprisonment (and potentially attempted murder for leaving her there bound) are all crimes for which the victim doesn't have to press charges, the state can. So even if the school didn't take action, the guy should have been arrested and had a trial. The article makes no mention of this one way or the other. If he had a trial and was acquitted, then the college shouldn't have taken any action against him, because in the eyes of the law he is innocent. If he was never brought to trial despite the evidence, there is more screwed up here than a Christian college's honor code.


I think there's certainly more to the story...but it doesn't matter in the context of what the article asserts. She was rescued by campus police (so really no question here about the rape, even if there may be a question *who* did it), taken to a hospital, etc and upon returning to school the next day was expelled for being a fornicator.

Immediately after being brutally raped, bones broken, she was expelled for being a fornicator.
 
2014-03-12 03:53:52 AM

timharrod: doglover: You're supposed to marry the man who rapes you.

It's right there in the Bible.

Not so fast, Sparky. You also owe her dad 50 shekels.

/lest you think God is soft on rapists


To be fair, have you priced shekels lately? One shekel

$125,000 is a lot of money.
 
2014-03-12 03:55:34 AM
This article was very insightful, brought out a great deal of information that was fair and impartial to both sides of the story and is likely right on the mark with its opinions.

or maybe not...
 
2014-03-12 03:57:02 AM
Look, if you havn't figured out that "Pastor" is code for child abusing rape factory, then you don't actually ever read the news or well, participate in America.

These pastor factories are just churning out thousands of people just like this guy. They're just raping all over the place.
 
2014-03-12 03:58:23 AM

liltingbanshee: It's really creepy that the rapist is now a pastor. Just lovely.


Closet gay trying to prove something about his own sexuality to himself. Creepy, but par for the fundy course.
 
2014-03-12 04:04:21 AM

Lady Indica: I think there's certainly more to the story...but it doesn't matter in the context of what the article asserts. She was rescued by campus police (so really no question here about the rape, even if there may be a question *who* did it), taken to a hospital, etc and upon returning to school the next day was expelled for being a fornicator.

Immediately after being brutally raped, bones broken, she was expelled for being a fornicator.


And then there's the guy. How do you go from wanting to be an actor to getting gang-raped prison-style by your roommates?
You could write a book with what's missing from the article.
 
2014-03-12 04:06:13 AM
I doubt any of these schools will ever produce a Nobel laureate.
 
2014-03-12 04:06:45 AM
For Christ sake, these are people of age.  If they think it's bad they should join Pope Francis's church of the little boy butt fuggers.  Hell. babeeee!   Everybody loves Pope Francis.  Believe meeee!  He's not going to start excommunicating all those gay pedophile priests like Benedict did.  Actually, Francis is going to reinstate them.  We love you Francis!  In the biblical sense of course.
 
2014-03-12 04:07:55 AM
What do you expect for sending your kids to a school based around made up crap?
 
2014-03-12 04:16:04 AM
The young lady in question went and enrolled in a Fundy "university" (deserves double quotes actually). She had a "boyfriend" whom she misread so badly she couldn't sense he was an Xtian sex maniac. She got no justice from the ha ha police or the ha ha ha "university" - rather the opposite.

So what kind of Christian will she choose to be? Turn the other [butt] cheek? Or go for some payback? If the gentleman in question is an ordained pastor, why goodness gracious he is certainly in what you would refer to as a "high-profile" [exposed] position, wouldn't you agree? Can't just skedaddle off and say oh that was then but this is now, I've seen the Light and let's let bygones be bygones...

There is a galaxy of payback awaiting the young lady, if she simply takes the initiative. On the other hand she may be waiting for the Old Feller to blink and come around and do the job for her. But he's old, really old, and you can't depend on him the way you could in the gud olden daze.

I'd not be surprised to see a followup piece from some eager beaver journalist within the near future. Rapist like that can't just slip away and start over. Unless of course he's Glenn Beck.
 
2014-03-12 04:18:08 AM
Ok ... If all this is true then just know that this isn't a Christian anything .... Christianity teaches that everything described in this story from the brutal assaults, rapes, expelling the victims , calling them " dirty vessels " and so on are all very evil things to do . Christianity teaches love, compassion, forgiveness, and that we are all imperfect but that God has love for all of us. We need only admit that we are sinners and reject our sins as much as we can , and accept Jesus Christ as our savior.

What is described in this story, if it's true... It is an evil organization that is falsely calling itself Christian and getting away with it. There should be an investigation , arrests made and people jailed over this . That college should be shut down as well . It should be a felony to falsely claim you represent a religion for personal gain and or to hijack a religion by using its name and then committing your crimes.
 
2014-03-12 04:18:21 AM
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2014-03-12 04:20:49 AM

MagicMissile: Ok ... If all this is true then just know that this isn't a Christian anything .... Christianity teaches that everything described in this story from the brutal assaults, rapes, expelling the victims , calling them " dirty vessels " and so on are all very evil things to do . Christianity teaches love, compassion, forgiveness, and that we are all imperfect but that God has love for all of us. We need only admit that we are sinners and reject our sins as much as we can , and accept Jesus Christ as our savior.

What is described in this story, if it's true... It is an evil organization that is falsely calling itself Christian and getting away with it. There should be an investigation , arrests made and people jailed over this . That college should be shut down as well . It should be a felony to falsely claim you represent a religion for personal gain and or to hijack a religion by using its name and then committing your crimes.


Yeah, it's always the other guy.
 
2014-03-12 04:21:45 AM

MagicMissile: Ok ... If all this is true then just know that this isn't a Christian anything .... Christianity teaches that everything described in this story from the brutal assaults, rapes, expelling the victims , calling them " dirty vessels " and so on are all very evil things to do . Christianity teaches love, compassion, forgiveness, and that we are all imperfect but that God has love for all of us. We need only admit that we are sinners and reject our sins as much as we can , and accept Jesus Christ as our savior.

What is described in this story, if it's true... It is an evil organization that is falsely calling itself Christian and getting away with it. There should be an investigation , arrests made and people jailed over this . That college should be shut down as well . It should be a felony to falsely claim you represent a religion for personal gain and or to hijack a religion by using its name and then committing your crimes.


i235.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-12 04:22:09 AM

nmrsnr: FTFA: "One night in May, however, she was grabbed, dragged into a construction area, beaten, restrained with bungee cord and duct tape, and then raped. As he was leaving her there, she recognized him as her boyfriend. A campus security guard discovered her, still restrained with the cord and tape, and took her to the campus clinic to file a report. In the next 24 hours, she went to the hospital, reported her attack to the police, and stayed the night with her parents. However, when she arrived back on campus with a black eye and a broken arm, her family was confronted by the dean of women and told that Beth was being expelled "because she is a fornicator."

PCC took no action against Beth's boyfriend. He graduated with honors and is now a pastor."

Okay, there has to be something missing from this story. I know that most women don't report rape, but here it says she filed a report. Even if she failed to go through with pressing charges, kidnapping and false imprisonment (and potentially attempted murder for leaving her there bound) are all crimes for which the victim doesn't have to press charges, the state can. So even if the school didn't take action, the guy should have been arrested and had a trial. The article makes no mention of this one way or the other. If he had a trial and was acquitted, then the college shouldn't have taken any action against him, because in the eyes of the law he is innocent. If he was never brought to trial despite the evidence, there is more screwed up here than a Christian college's honor code.


Maybe I'm getting jaded from having been on Fark too long but my spidey senses were a-tingling along the same lines. The whole article reads like something posted to outrage you but with nary a detail that can be used to verify any of this actually happened. If this in fact actually happened that family would (or should) have reported this to the local media and it would have become national news overnight.
 
2014-03-12 04:23:35 AM
Jesus Christ.
 
2014-03-12 04:28:23 AM

Weaver95: AirForceVet: Sounds like a great reason not to send your kids to THAT school.

Cue "You're gonna get raped" meme.

as bad as this is, were it only confined to the elite few christians all locked in the same campus and raping one another in between classes, that would be bad enough.  ok, horrific enough really.  But the crazy christian elite who run these schools train to bring their toxic culture out of their cozy little rape boxes and inflict those ideals on the rest of the country.  that's the end goal - a 'christian nation'.  in the interim, they'll settle for taking over local and state governments and putting their twisted ideology into practice.  these people scare me.  not just because they see women as disposable sex objects but because they honestly believe that they can do no wrong.  they see themselves as the chosen of their lord god almighty - by definition they CANNOT be in the wrong.  that sort of world view is very very dangerous.


It's not Christians doing these things ... It's sick and evil ..people..... If you can call them that..... Using Christianity as a smoke screen to commit their crimes . Unfortunately there are a lot of non religious evil twisted farkers out there that see Christianity and other religious venues as a place to hide and find victims. Laws need to be put in place to better detect and track these types of people, and like I mentioned it should become a felony with very strict penalties for abusing religious names and venues in this manner including incarceration and deportation as well as permanent exile.
 
2014-03-12 04:30:48 AM
Try not to be so naive guys
 
2014-03-12 04:33:03 AM

i242.photobucket.com

 
2014-03-12 04:35:25 AM

MagicMissile: Ok ... If all this is true then just know that this isn't a Christian anything .... Christianity teaches that everything described in this story from the brutal assaults, rapes, expelling the victims , calling them " dirty vessels " and so on are all very evil things to do . Christianity teaches love, compassion, forgiveness, and that we are all imperfect but that God has love for all of us. We need only admit that we are sinners and reject our sins as much as we can , and accept Jesus Christ as our savior.

What is described in this story, if it's true... It is an evil organization that is falsely calling itself Christian and getting away with it. There should be an investigation , arrests made and people jailed over this . That college should be shut down as well . It should be a felony to falsely claim you represent a religion for personal gain and or to hijack a religion by using its name and then committing your crimes.


There was a time I'd agree with you. A time when I, too, would say "Ah, this must be one of those FAKE Christian groups, not REAL Christians like mine." But then I found out my group of Christians were protecting child molestors.
The truth is, like it or not, this is real Christianity. The truth is, you're not a real Christian. In fact, you're a decent, compassionate human being. And that's a good thing.
 
2014-03-12 04:35:44 AM
FTA:  "One night in May, however, she was grabbed, dragged into a construction area, beaten, restrained with bungee cord and duct tape, and then raped. As he was leaving her there, she recognized him as her boyfriend "

Yeah, sounds legit.
 
2014-03-12 04:44:54 AM

liltingbanshee: It's really creepy that the rapist is now a pastor. Just lovely.


No kidding, a pastor that rapes grown women instead of young boys? Very creepy indeed.
 
2014-03-12 04:45:06 AM

nmrsnr: Okay, there has to be something missing from this story. I know that most women don't report rape, but here it says she filed a report. Even if she failed to go through with pressing charges, kidnapping and false imprisonment (and potentially attempted murder for leaving her there bound) are all crimes for which the victim doesn't have to press charges, the state can. So even if the school didn't take action, the guy should have been arrested and had a trial. The article makes no mention of this one way or the other. If he had a trial and was acquitted, then the college shouldn't have taken any action against him, because in the eyes of the law he is innocent. If he was never brought to trial despite the evidence, there is more screwed up here than a Christian college's honor code.


Yeah, I was wondering about this myself.  Since there were witnesses to her kidnapped state (the guy who found her) and injuries, such as the doctors who treated her (who have to report all suspicions of a crime), how did the pastor guy not go to prison for 15 years?  If the accused perpetrator was tried and found innocent then I have no problem with the school not taking action against him.

So apparently she either identified the wrong guy, or no incident actually occurred?  Unless we conclude that local hospitals, law enforcement, courts, and construction workers are all in on the conspiracy. Lacking further details, Occam's razor may have some advice on which conclusion to favor.
 
2014-03-12 04:47:41 AM
This article is a half-assed ripoff of a much more in depth story on Patrick Henry College from a few weeks ago.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/11 6623/sexual-assault-patrick-henr y -college-gods-harvard

/ no hotlinky from phone
 
2014-03-12 04:48:28 AM

MagicMissile: deportation as well as permanent exile.


What makes you think you can foist your misfits on another country?
 
2014-03-12 04:50:13 AM

kortex: What do you expect for sending your kids to a school based around made up crap?


Math is just made up crap. You take some very simple rules, extrapolate a bit, and you get math. A perfect system. In the real real universe, no system is perfect, so math doesn't accurately model it. So we go back to the math, make up more stuff, try again, etc. etc. etc. Eventually we get a math that ACTUALLY WORKS to a useful degree of accuracy. Physics is chock full of it. But if you study physics for more than 10 minutes, you realize that there's still a non-trivial margin of error. That's because math is made up while matter is not. So you run the numbers a lot and make sure your math is as close as possible to the real thing. Even then, sometimes we have to re-kajigger the math to make it work again.


Religion is kind of the same thing. Take the "Word of God"TM (It's really not. It's the words of many men about the word of god, plus about 50 translations on top, and that's why you study it every week for a lifetime.) Apply, and repeat. When something's not working, back to the altar and meditate upon it and schism that shiat till it's working again. Ideally that's what happens. Ideally

But the evolution of the mental into the physical is the primary obstacle humans face in life. Almost every problem we face is just another flavor of this sour grape. So right now you have people practicing a wrong Christianity at this school. I say we should help them with compassion in our hearts and in no way spare the rod. Put them back on the cross as it were. Especially the rapists. We can literally have them following in Jesus' footsteps. Big nails are only like $3 each.
 
2014-03-12 04:55:29 AM

MagicMissile: It's not Christians doing these things ... It's sick and evil ..people..... If you can call them that..... Using Christianity as a smoke screen to commit their crimes . Unfortunately there are a lot of non religious evil twisted farkers out there that see Christianity and other religious venues as a place to hide and find victims. Laws need to be put in place to better detect and track these types of people, and like I mentioned it should become a felony with very strict penalties for abusing religious names and venues in this manner including incarceration and deportation as well as permanent exile.


So your plan is to pretend that Christians who do horrible things are actually atheists who infiltrate religious venues to hide and find victims? Then you have the audacity to insinuate that anyone who disagrees with your position is naive. 

You have demonstrated that you are not a good person. You not only can't accept the reality that not all "Christians" are decent people, but you tried to demonize people who had nothing to do with this situation. You know those "bad Christians" you and others are talking about? You're one of them. Shame on the people who taught you to think that way.
 
2014-03-12 04:56:04 AM

Weaver95: AirForceVet: Sounds like a great reason not to send your kids to THAT school.

Cue "You're gonna get raped" meme.

as bad as this is, were it only confined to the elite few christians all locked in the same campus and raping one another in between classes, that would be bad enough.  ok, horrific enough really.  But the crazy christian elite who run these schools train to bring their toxic culture out of their cozy little rape boxes and inflict those ideals on the rest of the country.  that's the end goal - a 'christian nation'.  in the interim, they'll settle for taking over local and state governments and putting their twisted ideology into practice.  these people scare me.  not just because they see women as disposable sex objects but because they honestly believe that they can do no wrong.  they see themselves as the chosen of their lord god almighty - by definition they CANNOT be in the wrong.  that sort of world view is very very dangerous.


You sound like a hateful hate-filled C U Next Tuesday of a human being. Are you for real?

ps: Were they real rapes or Duke lacrosse rapey?
 
2014-03-12 05:00:33 AM

doglover: You're supposed to marry the man who rapes you.

It's right there in the Bible.


You're close, but it's even worse. Strictly interpreted, the penalty for rape is either death or marriage (under the flimsy legal rationale that you can't rape a spouse, therefore no crime, therefore no problem). Talk about your tough choices.
 
2014-03-12 05:01:46 AM

fusillade762: Can we send these people to a country where they'll fit in better? Like Saudi Arabia?


a culture that teaches women who have sex are like used toothbrushes and half-eaten candybars

You can send all those used toothbrushes and half-eaten candybars my way. I'll take them.


It really depends on the type of candy bar. Some chocolate bars come pre-scored and can be shared without being the use of the mouth. Mr. Goodbar,Hershey Bars, and certain sizes of Nestle Crunch are some examples. Reese Nutrageous and Skor bars are a whole different ballgame. A single serve type candybar can be offered pre-bite or split with a pocket knife and be socially acceptable.

Using somebody elses toothbrush is sketchy. When I was younger and faced with the only option of using somebody else's toothbrush there was liquor or boiling water involved.
 
2014-03-12 05:01:48 AM

Captain James T. Smirk: I don't know what is worse: the details of the article, or the fact that I am not surprised. Every day I log onto Fark, and every day I read at least a dozen stories about religious organizations, be they churches, universities, charities, or political action groups, that disgust me so much that I almost feel physically ill.


Maybe that could reflect a bias on Fark with what gets green lighted here?

/just an alternative thought
 
2014-03-12 05:02:09 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: nmrsnr: Okay, there has to be something missing from this story. I know that most women don't report rape, but here it says she filed a report. Even if she failed to go through with pressing charges, kidnapping and false imprisonment (and potentially attempted murder for leaving her there bound) are all crimes for which the victim doesn't have to press charges, the state can. So even if the school didn't take action, the guy should have been arrested and had a trial. The article makes no mention of this one way or the other. If he had a trial and was acquitted, then the college shouldn't have taken any action against him, because in the eyes of the law he is innocent. If he was never brought to trial despite the evidence, there is more screwed up here than a Christian college's honor code.

Yeah, I was wondering about this myself.  Since there were witnesses to her kidnapped state (the guy who found her) and injuries, such as the doctors who treated her (who have to report all suspicions of a crime), how did the pastor guy not go to prison for 15 years?  If the accused perpetrator was tried and found innocent then I have no problem with the school not taking action against him.

So apparently she either identified the wrong guy, or no incident actually occurred?  Unless we conclude that local hospitals, law enforcement, courts, and construction workers are all in on the conspiracy. Lacking further details, Occam's razor may have some advice on which conclusion to favor.


I can totally believe either a) the local cops are so shiatty they didn't take rape kit samples or b) the local cops are so shiatty any sample they did take was conveniently misplaced.

Don't forget, Pensacola is in the very derpicenter of Florida.
 
2014-03-12 05:03:12 AM

wurdjunky: This article is a half-assed ripoff of a much more in depth story on Patrick Henry College from a few weeks ago.


Well, to be fair, this wasn't an article, it was a guest blog on "Slacktivist."

A google for Pensacola Christian College shows no news articles about rape, or any sort of crime or problems at all, in the first 4 pages of hits.
 
2014-03-12 05:04:44 AM

JohnnyC: So your plan is to pretend that Christians who do horrible things are actually atheists who infiltrate religious venues to hide and find victims? Then you have the audacity to insinuate that anyone who disagrees with your position is naive.


Not to derail your righteous rage, but I didn't read the post you're responding to in that light. More in the light that it is the sickness and twistedness inside the people that is making them act in a sick and twisted fashion. Not that it's some sort of fifth column organized effort to discredit a religion. But that some people are bad, and some of those bad people pretend to be things they aren't - Christians, educators, mentors, family friends, etc - and then use the trust gained by their position to take advantage of others. Hey, maybe I'm wrong and the OP really did mean that it was an organized infiltratory effort by atheists, but I'll just present the above as an alternative to that.
 
2014-03-12 05:06:35 AM

The hopeless imp: MagicMissile: Ok ... If all this is true then just know that this isn't a Christian anything .... Christianity teaches that everything described in this story from the brutal assaults, rapes, expelling the victims , calling them " dirty vessels " and so on are all very evil things to do . Christianity teaches love, compassion, forgiveness, and that we are all imperfect but that God has love for all of us. We need only admit that we are sinners and reject our sins as much as we can , and accept Jesus Christ as our savior.

What is described in this story, if it's true... It is an evil organization that is falsely calling itself Christian and getting away with it. There should be an investigation , arrests made and people jailed over this . That college should be shut down as well . It should be a felony to falsely claim you represent a religion for personal gain and or to hijack a religion by using its name and then committing your crimes.

There was a time I'd agree with you. A time when I, too, would say "Ah, this must be one of those FAKE Christian groups, not REAL Christians like mine." But then I found out my group of Christians were protecting child molestors.
The truth is, like it or not, this is real Christianity. The truth is, you're not a real Christian. In fact, you're a decent, compassionate human being. And that's a good thing.


You have a waaay different definition if 'decent' and 'compassionate' than I do.
 
2014-03-12 05:29:51 AM

untaken_name: JohnnyC: So your plan is to pretend that Christians who do horrible things are actually atheists who infiltrate religious venues to hide and find victims? Then you have the audacity to insinuate that anyone who disagrees with your position is naive.

Not to derail your righteous rage, but I didn't read the post you're responding to in that light. More in the light that it is the sickness and twistedness inside the people that is making them act in a sick and twisted fashion. Not that it's some sort of fifth column organized effort to discredit a religion. But that some people are bad, and some of those bad people pretend to be things they aren't - Christians, educators, mentors, family friends, etc - and then use the trust gained by their position to take advantage of others. Hey, maybe I'm wrong and the OP really did mean that it was an organized infiltratory effort by atheists, but I'll just present the above as an alternative to that.


Perhaps if he hadn't said:

MagicMissile: Unfortunately there are a lot of non religious evil twisted farkers out there that see Christianity and other religious venues as a place to hide and find victims.


... I might be inclined to agree. But he did.

If a police officer does something horrible to someone else, do we suddenly say that he/she was never actually a police officer at all and was an anarchist hiding in the police force to look for victims? No... we say, "that police officer did something horrible". That person might get kicked off the police force for their actions, but he/she was still a member of the police.
 
2014-03-12 05:34:45 AM

Farxist Marxist: MagicMissile: deportation as well as permanent exile.

What makes you think you can foist your misfits on another country?


America and Australia?
 
2014-03-12 05:35:34 AM
I think the problem here is they turned to a bunch of crazy people instead of the police when reporting these rather serious crimes.  Actually the bigger problem is they decided to attend a school based on crazy.
 
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