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2014-03-11 09:15:34 PM
Dayyyum.
 
2014-03-11 09:21:59 PM
Scary stuff.
 
2014-03-11 09:23:54 PM
And someone apparently got themselves under a BART train at Balboa Park

/San Francisco is having a bad day
 
2014-03-11 09:26:25 PM
How many alarms do they have? I thought the scale topped out at five.
 
2014-03-11 09:27:41 PM
Huh. I didn't realize there was such a thing as a 6-alarm fire. I thought they topped out at 5. Like hurricanes.
 
2014-03-11 09:29:54 PM
There's a building with similar-looking construction near my office (multiple floors, entire structure made of wood, no fire breaks). Big one too. Nice brick exterior, but one Wal-Mart space heater away from being a 3-acre ashtray.
 
2014-03-11 09:30:12 PM
Well, rents are going to go up again.
 
2014-03-11 09:54:03 PM
My brother lives nearby. So far, his building is ember-free
 
2014-03-11 10:08:20 PM

Sniffers Row: My brother lives nearby. So far, his building is ember-free


Hope he stays safe.
 
2014-03-11 10:14:47 PM
Did the hipsters revolt against google finally?
 
2014-03-11 10:17:50 PM
I saw the smoke from 101 just north of Palo Alto so yeah, big fire.
 
2014-03-11 10:18:00 PM
Shostie : Huh. I didn't realize there was such a thing as a 6-alarm fire. I thought they topped out at 5. Like hurricanes.

Nahh this is west coast, so it's probably more like earthquakes ... where each step up on the scale means a fire 10x as intense as the previous level.
 
2014-03-11 10:18:11 PM

Shostie: Huh. I didn't realize there was such a thing as a 6-alarm fire. I thought they topped out at 5. Like hurricanes.


It refers to the number of regional companies brought in. Three companies, three alarm. Six companies, six alarm, etc.

thehobbes: Did the hipsters revolt against google finally?


My first thought too. Was this going to become more high-priced apartments for programmers, pushing out more of the poorer folks in the city?
 
2014-03-11 10:19:06 PM

thehobbes: Did the hipsters revolt against google apple finally?


FTFY
 
2014-03-11 10:19:09 PM
SF is flaming more than usual

/veal etc.
 
2014-03-11 10:19:24 PM
Praying for Omarion....
 
2014-03-11 10:21:05 PM
Hot stuff coming through
 
2014-03-11 10:21:32 PM
I knew San Francisco is flaming but this is ridicules.
 
2014-03-11 10:22:03 PM
I work near the San Mateo bridge and the smoke plume was massive around 5:30 when I left the office, looked like more than one building at the time.
 
2014-03-11 10:23:24 PM

violentsalvation: How many alarms do they have? I thought the scale topped out at five.


Alarms = units responding.
 
2014-03-11 10:23:47 PM
Theaetetus:

My first thought too. Was this going to become more high-priced apartments for programmers, pushing out more of the poorer folks in the city?

Yep, probably about $3-4k/month rent apartments in that area.
 
2014-03-11 10:23:50 PM

violentsalvation: How many alarms do they have? I thought the scale topped out at five.


Some cities use more than five (I remember a seven alarm fire somewhere recently) but a SF fire chief said they top out at five even though they called in units from all over the city.

I have a few coworkers who live in SOMA who are probably having a very bad commute home.
 
2014-03-11 10:25:37 PM

lordargent: Shostie : Huh. I didn't realize there was such a thing as a 6-alarm fire. I thought they topped out at 5. Like hurricanes.

Nahh this is west coast, so it's probably more like earthquakes ... where each step up on the scale means a fire 10x as intense as the previous level.


We had a tire fire here in 2005. The alarm count reached triple digits.
 
2014-03-11 10:27:00 PM
Did the gays bring their hot dogs?
 
2014-03-11 10:27:09 PM
Maybe if they had built more wells, and put the structures a full space apart.
 
2014-03-11 10:27:23 PM
Ah - Andy Ball's company. I'm sure they were running a super duper tight ship out there on site.
 
2014-03-11 10:27:24 PM
It's not like they have a history of complete devastation by fire, so no biggie.
 
2014-03-11 10:27:30 PM

Shostie: Huh. I didn't realize there was such a thing as a 6-alarm fire. I thought they topped out at 5. Like hurricanes.


Alarm numbers are r/t the number of crews (or trucks or stations, depending on the set-up) that are activated for a fire. When it gets really out-of-hand, they will call a general alarm which means all off-duty firefighters that are available should immediately report to duty to relieve or supplement teams. My husband has been a firefighter for over twenty years, that is how they work it in our area.
 
2014-03-11 10:28:02 PM
Found the number. The tire fire was 106-alarm. It took ten counties' worth of fire departments to put the damn thing out.
 
2014-03-11 10:28:36 PM
The smoke plume from this is so huge that I actually thought it was near my house even though it's several miles away.
 
2014-03-11 10:28:50 PM

violentsalvation: How many alarms do they have? I thought the scale topped out at five.


The number of alarms available is only limited by the number of companies available to a city, including mutual aid. I'd guess San Francisco could go up to at least 7 or 8, If not more. Each alarm is a certain number and type of companies. Usually about 5 or 6
 
2014-03-11 10:28:58 PM
Theaetetus:

My first thought too. Was this going to become more high-priced apartments for programmers, pushing out more of the poorer folks in the city?

No. What's pushing up rents is the inability of developers to build enough apartments/condos to meet demand due to NIMBYism. Restrained supply = rents go up. An apartment building like this might have actually helped keep rents from going even higher.
 
2014-03-11 10:29:23 PM

Sniffers Row: Theaetetus:

My first thought too. Was this going to become more high-priced apartments for programmers, pushing out more of the poorer folks in the city?

Yep, probably about $3-4k/month rent apartments in that area.


It apparently was a fairly upscale apartment complex under construction, and those rents would not be unusual. $3k/mo barely gets you a 1 BR even in a so-so SF neighborhood. and this was one of those new hip spots (former wasteland of warehouses, only a few blocks from Pac Bell park and Caltrain).

I'm looking for a new job and I won't even bother with opportunities in the city, because the commute is awful and the rents are worse.
 
2014-03-11 10:30:40 PM
Should I panic? Under construction buildings always burn fast.
 
2014-03-11 10:33:19 PM
The smoke set off the fire alarms in my lab building a couple blocks away. My favorite part was that our evacuation spot is between the inferno and our not-currently-on-fire building.
 
2014-03-11 10:33:41 PM

vossiewulf: I saw the smoke from 101 just north of Palo Alto so yeah, big fire.


Me too, it's farking crazy
 
2014-03-11 10:36:14 PM

JonBuck: Theaetetus:

My first thought too. Was this going to become more high-priced apartments for programmers, pushing out more of the poorer folks in the city?

No. What's pushing up rents is the inability of developers to build enough apartments/condos to meet demand due to NIMBYism. Restrained supply = rents go up. An apartment building like this might have actually helped keep rents from going even higher.


I wasn't sure if it was private housing stock or the new student housing the university is building down there.
 
2014-03-11 10:36:35 PM

Gosling: Found the number. The tire fire was 106-alarm. It took ten counties' worth of fire departments to put the damn thing out.


The tone-code ("Emergency!") must have been epic.
 
2014-03-11 10:39:08 PM
Only 45 minutes? That building is going to be a complete loss, if it isn't already.
 
2014-03-11 10:40:12 PM

Gosling: Found the number. The tire fire was 106-alarm. It took ten counties' worth of fire departments to put the damn thing out.


That's not a 106 alarm fire. It took units or personnel from 106 departments
 
2014-03-11 10:40:17 PM
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2014-03-11 10:40:39 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: SF is flaming more than usual

/veal etc.


You brute!
 
2014-03-11 10:42:49 PM
stand still there's a spark in your hair
 
2014-03-11 10:42:50 PM
Breaking news!!

After this 30 second ad!!
 
2014-03-11 10:42:53 PM
And there goes another corner. Stick a fork in that one, it's done.
 
2014-03-11 10:45:49 PM
Mmmm...6 alarm chili....*droolgargle noise*
 
2014-03-11 10:45:54 PM

violentsalvation: How many alarms do they have? I thought the scale topped out at five.


It depends on the city. Where I work, after the second alarm it becomes a "general alarm." But I work in a smaller city.

The first alarm brings 2 engines, 1 truck, and 1 ambulance (the ambulance guys are going to work as firefighters). A second alarm brings another engine, another truck, and another ambulance. It also calls back 16 off-duty guys to man reserve equipment and cover the city. A general alarm calls back all off-duty guys and pulls in mutual aid from surrounding towns. A bigger city like SF will be able to strike as many multiple alarms as they have resources to commit to the fire.
 
2014-03-11 10:46:32 PM
I'm betting on arson. Anarchists, ftl.
 
2014-03-11 10:47:13 PM
Guy Fieri has gone too far this time...
 
2014-03-11 10:47:49 PM
We have done the finding of the plane of Malaysia.
 
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