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2014-03-11 11:34:22 PM
Nice headline, subby, now what did he really say
*click*
well, fark me
 
2014-03-11 11:40:16 PM
Pat Robertson says something stupid. Must be a day ending in "Y".
 
2014-03-11 11:49:16 PM
There's nothing Robertson can say that is so ludicrously stupid that his viewers won't nod and think "Yep... that thur's th'trooth"

/sh*tkickers
 
2014-03-12 12:06:53 AM
So they should have sex first, then only marry if the kid's a normie?

Whatever you say, Pat!
 
2014-03-12 12:35:33 AM
Well FARK YOU TOO, Robertson.
 
2014-03-12 12:37:29 AM
So, by getting checked by a geneticist, science triumphs over religion?
 
433 [TotalFark]
2014-03-12 12:42:32 AM
The cousin marrying thing is weird.  I do not hear of it often, though in history, it hasn't been uncommon at all. 
To feel the need to make a statement about it is strange.

As for the "mongoloid" bit, perhaps he doesn't know better.  He's from an older school when that term was used for children effected by Down's syndrome, and other conditions as well.  While humans (read: Europeans) tried to figure out the human race, the first iteration of the races had only two in the running, Caucasoid and Mongoloid.  This changed over time, but some of it stuck and found its way into the lexicon.  Whether those suffering from retardation and were called Mongoloid were called that because of a perception of semblance to the Mongoloid race is something I do not know.  I do know that mongoloid is not a proper term to use in reference to children.

But Pat Robertson doesn't know these things.  Though you would think that he would have some fact checkers and some folks in place to try and keep the bonus idiocy out, apparently, he does not.  I think it is a positive sign from him that he does have within him a concern for the handicapped/disabled, and that he would prefer a child not to suffer as such.  So while you fark your cousin, don't make a retard.

Is it OK to do some cousin f*ckin?  Pat Robertson is here, to answer the questions of the ages.  Afterwards, he will yell at a cloud or two, and watch the faithful drip through his aging, bony grasp like sand.
 
2014-03-12 12:50:19 AM
So that means the Robertson children aren't breeding any time soon
 
2014-03-12 01:11:13 AM
And suppose these married cousins do a whoopsie and have a "mongoloid" bun in the oven?

Whaddya gonna do now, Pat??

You unequivocally stated "as long as they don't have..."

How do you propose to carry out the don't?

Or will you just cry "Oh, I was misinterpreted, waah!" and then issue some weaselly self revision?
 
2014-03-12 01:15:03 AM
meh.

He immediately says afterwards "I shouldn't say 'mongoloid".

Out of all the shiat he's said over the years this is WAY down at the bottom of the list of things to be outraged about.
 
2014-03-12 01:22:21 AM
Wait, so does he think there's a way people can control whether or not they have a "mongoloid" child?  I guess maybe the technology will be there soon, but about all you can do now is test for a few big abnormalities and abort.

433: The cousin marrying thing is weird. I do not hear of it often, though in history, it hasn't been uncommon at all.


I don't think there's been a lot of first cousin stuff going on (I know, royal families), but in most of human's tribal history, there would have been plenty of reproducing between cousins of a degree you can count on one hand.
 
2014-03-12 02:16:49 AM
What an evil man.
 
2014-03-12 02:31:53 AM
Well... as long as the child wears a hat, has a job, and brings home the bacon, no one will know.
 
2014-03-12 02:47:56 AM
 
2014-03-12 02:49:08 AM

Lionel Mandrake: So they should have sex first, then only marry if the kid's a normie?

Whatever you say, Pat!


I think he's saying that if the wife ever gets pregnant, she should immediately have an abortion.
 
2014-03-12 02:59:08 AM
Pat is like your crazy drunk uncle, if you gave your drunk uncle a TV show and a diamond mine.
 
2014-03-12 03:30:28 AM
img.fark.net
 
2014-03-12 05:52:35 AM
When Pat Robertson dies, I will celebrate like its Mardi Gras, New Years, and the Fourth of July all rolled into one.
 
2014-03-12 07:15:38 AM
www.icompositions.com
 
2014-03-12 07:20:07 AM
Just for the record, incest can produce a lot of genetic problems, but Down syndrome (previously known as Mongoloidism) is NOT one of them.

One of the more disturbing trends I've seen in the anti-science crowd lately has been a push to claim that incest is actually just fine, and all these claims that it can increase the chance of genetic defects is just those damn scientists trying to control our lives again.  *Shudder*
 
2014-03-12 08:32:32 AM

Zap_Rowsdower: Just for the record, incest can produce a lot of genetic problems, but Down syndrome (previously known as Mongoloidism) is NOT one of them.

One of the more disturbing trends I've seen in the anti-science crowd lately has been a push to claim that incest is actually just fine, and all these claims that it can increase the chance of genetic defects is just those damn scientists trying to control our lives again.  *Shudder*


It was a common historical practice and religions have a tendency to hold with tradition.   They'll do what "worked" for them in the past regardless of what a scientist says now.
You see it as the argument of logic and facts, they treat it as a competing dogma that usurps the churches authority.

/Technically there wouldn't anything wrong so long as you're not mass producing defective children.
/Would be especially true if the couple is not producing children at all. Incest away!
/Social fashion aside, its the partners willingly
consenting to their relationship that counts.
/Just like gay marriage.
 
2014-03-12 09:06:37 AM
Is Mongoloid Jim gonna have to choke a Pat?
 
2014-03-12 10:02:01 AM
Thanks to urbandictionary, I just discovered that "loid" is to "Mongoloid" as "tard" is to "retard."
 
2014-03-12 11:33:35 AM
This guy is yet to be recalled to the mothership?
 
2014-03-12 12:04:24 PM
mrwgifs.com
 
2014-03-12 12:16:28 PM
I had three cousins who were gorgeous.  I had certain, uh ... dreams about each of them.
 
2014-03-12 12:28:03 PM
There are plenty of states where marrying your first cousin is legal. Oddly enough, West Virginia isn't one of them.
 
2014-03-12 01:04:55 PM
When folks ask how it is that it took so long for Cro-Magnon man to achieve dominance throughout Europe, I like to point at Pat Robertson and say "because they were so willing to tolerate the presence of Neanderthals in society, even to their detriment, for such a long period of time."

Pat Robertson, like so many others, is the struggling remnant of an America that needs to be put to rest, so that we may move forward as a country.
 
Zel
2014-03-12 01:07:17 PM
Cousins are actually far enough apart to be safe most of the time. It's known to have been common throughout history, when towns and tribes were small and kept to themselves. A one-in-ten chance of terrible disfigurement was acceptable back then, and within the norm given their diets and toxin exposures. In the modern era, one-in-ten is incredibly high and unacceptable.

Plus the fact that if you're inclined to date a cousin, chances are your parents were too, and the inbreeding effect is seriously compounded.

//the number one-in-ten is a rough asstimate*
////an estimate pulled from you know where
 
2014-03-12 01:55:18 PM

sandbar67: When Pat Robertson dies, I will celebrate like its Mardi Gras, New Years, and the Fourth of July all rolled into one.


Don't forget to invite an apostrophe.
static.musictoday.com
 
2014-03-12 02:21:55 PM
 
2014-03-12 02:24:09 PM

way south: Zap_Rowsdower: Just for the record, incest can produce a lot of genetic problems, but Down syndrome (previously known as Mongoloidism) is NOT one of them.

One of the more disturbing trends I've seen in the anti-science crowd lately has been a push to claim that incest is actually just fine, and all these claims that it can increase the chance of genetic defects is just those damn scientists trying to control our lives again.  *Shudder*

It was a common historical practice and religions have a tendency to hold with tradition.   They'll do what "worked" for them in the past regardless of what a scientist says now.
You see it as the argument of logic and facts, they treat it as a competing dogma that usurps the churches authority.

/Technically there wouldn't anything wrong so long as you're not mass producing defective children.
/Would be especially true if the couple is not producing children at all. Incest away!
/Social fashion aside, its the partners willinglyconsenting to their relationship that counts.
/Just like gay marriage.


If people want to argue that cousin marriages should be allowed for historical or religious reasons, fine.  I might not agree, but I wouldn't complain.  What annoys me is when they whip out the conspiracy theory garbage and claim that science is making stuff up to oppress their right to have sex with their family.
 
2014-03-12 03:06:18 PM

Zap_Rowsdower: way south: Zap_Rowsdower: Just for the record, incest can produce a lot of genetic problems, but Down syndrome (previously known as Mongoloidism) is NOT one of them.

One of the more disturbing trends I've seen in the anti-science crowd lately has been a push to claim that incest is actually just fine, and all these claims that it can increase the chance of genetic defects is just those damn scientists trying to control our lives again.  *Shudder*

It was a common historical practice and religions have a tendency to hold with tradition.   They'll do what "worked" for them in the past regardless of what a scientist says now.
You see it as the argument of logic and facts, they treat it as a competing dogma that usurps the churches authority.

/Technically there wouldn't anything wrong so long as you're not mass producing defective children.
/Would be especially true if the couple is not producing children at all. Incest away!
/Social fashion aside, its the partners willinglyconsenting to their relationship that counts.
/Just like gay marriage.

If people want to argue that cousin marriages should be allowed for historical or religious reasons, fine.  I might not agree, but I wouldn't complain.  What annoys me is when they whip out the conspiracy theory garbage and claim that science is making stuff up to oppress their right to have sex with their family.




But science is being used in the argument over who they can and can't marry. So you can expect that will generate a lot of resentment.

/and no small amount of irony.
 
2014-03-12 03:25:28 PM

way south: Zap_Rowsdower: way south: Zap_Rowsdower: Just for the record, incest can produce a lot of genetic problems, but Down syndrome (previously known as Mongoloidism) is NOT one of them.

One of the more disturbing trends I've seen in the anti-science crowd lately has been a push to claim that incest is actually just fine, and all these claims that it can increase the chance of genetic defects is just those damn scientists trying to control our lives again.  *Shudder*

It was a common historical practice and religions have a tendency to hold with tradition.   They'll do what "worked" for them in the past regardless of what a scientist says now.
You see it as the argument of logic and facts, they treat it as a competing dogma that usurps the churches authority.

/Technically there wouldn't anything wrong so long as you're not mass producing defective children.
/Would be especially true if the couple is not producing children at all. Incest away!
/Social fashion aside, its the partners willinglyconsenting to their relationship that counts.
/Just like gay marriage.

If people want to argue that cousin marriages should be allowed for historical or religious reasons, fine.  I might not agree, but I wouldn't complain.  What annoys me is when they whip out the conspiracy theory garbage and claim that science is making stuff up to oppress their right to have sex with their family.

But science is being used in the argument over who they can and can't marry. So you can expect that will generate a lot of resentment.

/and no small amount of irony.




Meant to say "the social argument".

/iPhone eating werds.
 
2014-03-12 03:48:16 PM
I was under the impression that inbreeding to the extent it would cause noticeable <ahem>birth defects</ahem> would have to be going on for generations to really become a problem.  You don't get to this level of genetic mutation by sticking it in your mom's-sisters-kid.

Not that it's still not creepy.
 
2014-03-12 04:18:38 PM

RobotSpider: I was under the impression that inbreeding to the extent it would cause noticeable <ahem>birth defects</ahem> would have to be going on for generations to really become a problem.  You don't get to this level of genetic mutation by sticking it in your mom's-sisters-kid.

Not that it's still not creepy.


This was my impression as well.  In the short term limited inter-breeding of a family line is just as likely to bring out positive recessives as negative.  Some very very smart people throughout history have been the children of relatively close relations.
 
2014-03-12 04:45:30 PM
It's a statistical thing.  The odds of problems go up with the closeness of the matings and the number of generations, but each child is a spin of the wheel
 
2014-03-12 04:59:50 PM
I listened to the whole thing and this was pretty enlightened for Pat Robertson. I'm quite surprised that he knows about recessive genes. The headline made it seems like the couple should be able to know the future be what he said is that they should be checked by a geneticist before getting married.

I worked with a woman who was married with her uncle, biological uncle, not uncle by marriage. That's one step closer than cousins. Was really surprised that this was legal. They even had a daughter (with no genetic issues, I asked.)
 
2014-03-12 05:36:03 PM
He said mongoloid. Big farking deal. He was trying to make a point and in doing so used a word that was acceptable in his time. Get the fark over it.
 
2014-03-12 05:39:23 PM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2014-03-12 06:31:48 PM

Iplaybass: He said mongoloid. Big farking deal. He was trying to make a point and in doing so used a word that was acceptable in his time. Get the fark over it.


"In his time"? You do realize he's still alive and such, by definition, now is still "his time", right? Also, the word as he used it (a slang term for a Down's syndrome kid) hasn't been acceptable for at least half a century - as Robertson was born in 1930, he's been alive long enough to know that the term is not acceptable and inflammatory.

He needs to join the rest of the friggin' world. Deal with it.
 
2014-03-12 07:26:21 PM

Kittypie070: And suppose these married cousins do a whoopsie and have a "mongoloid" bun in the oven?

Whaddya gonna do now, Pat??

You unequivocally stated "as long as they don't have..."

How do you propose to carry out the don't?

Or will you just cry "Oh, I was misinterpreted, waah!" and then issue some weaselly self revision?


Well, he said to get a geneticist involved. I think those guys know a thing or two about DNA and have some tests you can have before knowing your cousin.
 
2014-03-12 07:31:57 PM

log_jammin: meh.

He immediately says afterwards "I shouldn't say 'mongoloid".

Out of all the shiat he's said over the years this is WAY down at the bottom of the list of things to be outraged about.


This.

He used a word that isn't politically correct.

Morans and their PC contests.
 
2014-03-12 07:50:57 PM

FormlessOne: Iplaybass: He said mongoloid. Big farking deal. He was trying to make a point and in doing so used a word that was acceptable in his time. Get the fark over it.

"In his time"? You do realize he's still alive and such, by definition, now is still "his time", right? Also, the word as he used it (a slang term for a Down's syndrome kid) hasn't been acceptable for at least half a century - as Robertson was born in 1930, he's been alive long enough to know that the term is not acceptable and inflammatory.

He needs to join the rest of the friggin' world. Deal with it.


Were you watching with the sound up? He realized he mistake instantly and said he souldn't have used that word.


/can;t believe I'm taking up for that asshole
 
2014-03-12 08:18:40 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Kittypie070: And suppose these married cousins do a whoopsie ?and have a "mongoloid" bun in the oven AND THE LADY IS ALREADY PREGNANT WITH ONE

Whaddya gonna do now, Pat??

You unequivocally stated "as long as they don't have..."

How do you propose to carry out the don't?

Or will you just cry "Oh, I was misinterpreted, waah!" and then issue some weaselly self revision?

Well, he said to get a geneticist involved. I think those guys know a thing or two about DNA and have some tests you can have before knowing your cousin.


You missed the actual point by about 3 astronomical units.
I carefully simplified my language for you.

Try again.
 
2014-03-12 10:30:34 PM
Homosapiens with extra chromosome number 21 were referred to as "mongoloids" when I was young and I'm not even 40 yet.
 
2014-03-12 10:33:08 PM

FormlessOne: Iplaybass: He said mongoloid. Big farking deal. He was trying to make a point and in doing so used a word that was acceptable in his time. Get the fark over it.

"In his time"? You do realize he's still alive and such, by definition, now is still "his time", right? Also, the word as he used it (a slang term for a Down's syndrome kid) hasn't been acceptable for at least half a century - as Robertson was born in 1930, he's been alive long enough to know that the term is not acceptable and inflammatory.

He needs to join the rest of the friggin' world. Deal with it.


wow. You PC morans will go to any length to make your point, regardless of how farking stupid you sound, won't you?

Ever heard the expression "in my day"? It's the same thing, numbnuts. And here's a tip: it doesn't mean your entire life.
 
2014-03-12 11:10:21 PM

FormlessOne: Iplaybass: He said mongoloid. Big farking deal. He was trying to make a point and in doing so used a word that was acceptable in his time. Get the fark over it.

"In his time"? You do realize he's still alive and such, by definition, now is still "his time", right? Also, the word as he used it (a slang term for a Down's syndrome kid) hasn't been acceptable for at least half a century - as Robertson was born in 1930, he's been alive long enough to know that the term is not acceptable and inflammatory.

He needs to join the rest of the friggin' world. Deal with it.


So only a zombie can use this term?
 
2014-03-12 11:43:27 PM
Does nobody grasp my goddamned POINT?
 
2014-03-13 12:31:55 AM

Kittypie070: Does nobody grasp my goddamned POINT?


No, people do grasp it. I bet Robertson would say something to the effect of "Well then make sure you go on and get that mongo.. I mean retard baptized as soon as it spawns!"
 
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