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(SFGate)   Well of course if you spend $165 million every year on the homeless in your city it's only going to encourage more homeless people to move there   (sfgate.com) divider line 22
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2014-03-12 03:10:39 AM  
3 votes:
You mean taking money from people who work and giving it to people who are freeloading scum so that both groups will have the exact same stuff doesn't encourage the freeloading bums to pursue degrees in chemical engineering? Who knew.

Hey, I have an idea. Let's raise the unemployment benefits to 6,000 weeks, and pay people 110% of their regular wage, for, you know, compassion's sake. And let's change the funding so that it is taken from additional properties taxes on single-family dwellings between 1,000 sq ft and 3,000 sq ft.
2014-03-11 09:25:38 PM  
3 votes:
God forbid the downtrodden are treated decently; it will only encourage them.
2014-03-11 10:36:04 PM  
2 votes:
2014-03-11 10:00:04 PM  
2 votes:

fusillade762: Walker: I've been all over the country and I've never encountered as many homeless people as I did in San Francisco. Every ten feet one of them would hit me up for money.

Try Telegraph avenue in Berkley. It's worse.


I wish I had a good solution for the homeless. I try not to be a dick but my observations suggest that it's true, giving money to the homeless is like feeding feral animals. It seems like the humane thing to do, but it makes the problem worse.

I wouldn't mind beggars if so many weren't so aggressive. Or maybe if they would do something in return. Adopt a section of the sidewalk or an intersection and keep it clean. A few minutes with a broom or trash bag earns a lot of sympathy.
2014-03-11 09:33:55 PM  
2 votes:
Lets see...

$165,000,000 / 7,350 Total homeless population of SF as quoted in article =   $22,449 spent per homeless person.  I know it's SF but that seems a little high.
2014-03-12 10:40:12 AM  
1 votes:

doubled99: Wow. it's almost as if getting stuff for free doesn't inspire one to work to change their situation. Crazy.


The phrase that comes to mind is "the gift of desperation."

The heart-string pieces designed to make me feel more compassionate about the long-term unemployment issue are the most counter-productive. I can FEEL myself turning more conservative even though I hate a good portion of their agenda.

Some woman worked for 5 years at a job and has been collecting unemployment for 2 years after getting laid off. She complained that if she didn't get her benefits reinstated she would "have to dip into her savings."

Some guy complained that once his 2 years of unemployment lapsed, he was afraid that he "might have to get a job doing menial labor."

/Thanks libs
//Gonna practice that for a while was the transformation happens
///libslibslibslibslibslibs
2014-03-12 09:33:48 AM  
1 votes:
Wow. it's almost as if getting stuff for free doesn't inspire one to work to change their situation. Crazy.
2014-03-12 03:27:11 AM  
1 votes:

Mr.Hawk: Pan handling is for straight cash to go score, to go pan handle, to score again...

pay the mortgage on your 2300 sq ft house one off the corner of 2nd and Elm.

FTFY
2014-03-12 01:20:03 AM  
1 votes:
No connection between all those people losing their homes over the last few years and the increase in homelessness.   Nope, none at all.
2014-03-12 01:04:15 AM  
1 votes:

doofusss: amazing that you farkers will criticize republicans and then become one when dealing with
a one on one basis.


You got that right.  

"Philanthropy is commendable, but it must not cause the philanthropist to overlook the circumstances of economic injustice which make philanthropy necessary."

Martin Luthor King, what a commie.
2014-03-11 11:53:54 PM  
1 votes:

Caffienatedjedi: FarkerSnow: If only there was some sort of island with institutional lodging near San Francisco where we could send them.

So you are saying being poor should be a crime?
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Intriguing.


No, I was just saying that we should send them to Alcatraz.
2014-03-11 11:22:58 PM  
1 votes:
If only there was some sort of island with institutional lodging near San Francisco where we could send them.
2014-03-11 11:16:55 PM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: Walker: I've been all over the country and I've never encountered as many homeless people as I did in San Francisco. Every ten feet one of them would hit me up for money.

Try Telegraph avenue in Berkley. It's worse.


Try Santa Cruz. It's worse
2014-03-11 10:59:15 PM  
1 votes:

Laobaojun: eggrolls: It doesn't have to be a problem.

http://www.nationofchange.org/utah-ending-homelessness-giving-people -h omes-1390056183

My bad.  I conflate the "homeless problem" with the "people with mental problems who should be institutionalized but sleep on sidewalks problem".  Free houses won't fix a mental health care problem.   But if that works with the "working poor", outstanding work there.


They couple it with social workers who get them mental health care too.
2014-03-11 10:25:59 PM  
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: By and large the homeless don't lack food, or shelter, or jobs, they lack adequate mental health treatment. Focus on the cause (mental illness) and you'll fix the symptoms (wandering the streets, eating food out of garbage cans, being unable to hold down a job)


And/or alcohol or drug addiction.

The visibly homeless are the most
Severe cases. Panhandlers/winos, etc.

The invisible homeless are the ones sleeping in cars, spending the day in the library, coffee shops.

Those people are generally employable and down on their luck.
2014-03-11 10:25:55 PM  
1 votes:
Someone should make some sort of modest proposal.
2014-03-11 10:24:58 PM  
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: By and large the homeless don't lack food, or shelter, or jobs, they lack adequate mental health treatment. Focus on the cause (mental illness) and you'll fix the symptoms (wandering the streets, eating food out of garbage cans, being unable to hold down a job)


Lots of homeless people don't eat out of garbage cans, and some have jobs.

I had a job and was homeless when I was 21.
2014-03-11 09:55:18 PM  
1 votes:

Walker: I've been all over the country and I've never encountered as many homeless people as I did in San Francisco. Every ten feet one of them would hit me up for money.


Try Telegraph avenue in Berkley. It's worse.
2014-03-11 09:52:05 PM  
1 votes:
I've traveled a bit and seen homeless folks all around and from multiple continents, but I've never run into homeless folk that felt more entitled and were harder to please than in San Francisco.  Even when I was giving them a couple bucks they still seemed to get insulted by it...  Maybe I just had a bad experience, but SF seemed like a whole different world when it came to the transients...
2014-03-11 09:45:14 PM  
1 votes:
I've been all over the country and I've never encountered as many homeless people as I did in San Francisco. Every ten feet one of them would hit me up for money.
2014-03-11 09:33:32 PM  
1 votes:
SF's problems with the homeless sort of boil down to:

1. Climate -- if you're homeless in SF, you don't really have to move out in the winter.

2. Throwing money at the problem instead of thinking it through -- They never add basic shiat like tracking or employment subsidies, it's always just buying people a sandwich or whatever.  Which fixes the problem for 6 hours at a time, sure, but you need to at least make a minimal effort to think long-term.  SF is in central CA, that's one of the deepest financial holes to climb out of in the US to begin with... they're not helping by having essentially no employment assistance or drug rehab in their programs.
2014-03-11 07:43:10 PM  
1 votes:
It's obviously a big problem in San Francisco, but I don't think that's how it works, subby.
 
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