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(The Raw Story)   According to Fox News' Stuart Varney, the point of food stamp cuts isn't to save federal money... it's to punish poor people   ( rawstory.com) divider line
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2014-03-11 03:55:21 PM  
Food stamps are as much of a handout to grocery stores, farmers, and big food companies like Nestle as they are handouts to poor people
 
2014-03-11 03:55:31 PM  
#32 More than one out of every four children in the United States is enrolled in the food stamp program.

That link is aged a couple of years, but it should still serve to upset you if you have a soul.
 
2014-03-11 03:55:35 PM  

Magorn: Marcus Aurelius: "You are told that you are taking food out of the mouths of children. You're making people starve. You are bad because you're cutting. You can't win! How will we ever get a handle on our debt if you can't cut $8 billion out of food stamps over a 10-year period? How will you ever do that?"

How is cutting $8 billion going to help the deficit when defense spending is over $700 billion a year?  Cut 2% from the military and you're way past $8 billion, you worthless piece of stinking garbage.

"you can't ever win!"

Uhhh, well I guess that depends on exactly what game you were playing in the first place,  though I'm really not sure I want to know the rules of the one that has "More poor people starving to death" as a victory condition



Remember, it's only government waste when you're feeding or educating brown skin people.  Blowing them up is always money well spent.
 
2014-03-11 03:56:14 PM  
Here's another Eisenhower quote:

izquotes.com

If it hadn't been for the 1953 Coup of Iran, I'd put him in my top 10 US presidents.
 
2014-03-11 03:57:59 PM  
How much did the USA promise to give Ukraine again?

Was it a measly $1 billion?
 
2014-03-11 03:58:00 PM  
Any good conservative Christian knows, Jesus said "Give a man a fish and he will be satisfied.  Kill thousands with a bombardment from a battleship and you save money giving them all those fish."
 
2014-03-11 04:02:13 PM  
Is the Obvious tag away at a job fair, where he'll pass out 30 resumes and not get a call back from any of our holy job creatures, despite being well-qualified for the positions available, followed up by a night and a morning drinking cheap whisky in a bar in order to summon the courage to tell his wife that in order to feed their children they're going to have to default on their mortgage and lose everything they've worked hard to get, lost when his company outsourced his job to India, and demonized by politicans for being lazy, despite the fact that he's been applying to 30+ jobs every week for the past 70 weeks while working part time as a server at the local Applebee's?
 
2014-03-11 04:02:36 PM  
Points for honesty, at least.
 
2014-03-11 04:04:21 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: #32 More than one out of every four children in the United States is enrolled in the food stamp program.

That link is aged a couple of years, but it should still serve to upset you if you have a soul.


What precisely should be upsetting about that? What is the proper amount of children that should be covered?
 
2014-03-11 04:04:34 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Here's another Eisenhower quote:

[izquotes.com image 850x400]

If it hadn't been for the 1953 Coup of Iran, I'd put him in my top 10 US presidents.


The only problem with that is that Republicans see poor people getting food as a 'privilege' and not feeding them as a 'principle.
 
2014-03-11 04:04:37 PM  

rosebud_the_sled: Any good conservative Christian knows, Jesus said "Give a man a fish and he will be satisfied.  Kill thousands with a bombardment from a battleship and you save money giving them all those fish."


"Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for the night. SET a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. Or something, was never really clear on the whole subject"

/Terry Pratchett knows all
 
2014-03-11 04:04:52 PM  

Rhino_man: what_now: How will we ever get a handle on our debt if you can't cut $8 billion out of food stamps over a 10-year period? How will you ever do that?"


Well, you pedantic little prick, we could start with the USS Gerald Ford, which is ESTIMATED to cost $17.5 billion dollars and is a first of it's kind super carrier.

But we need that, right? Because of this guy:

[www.independent.co.uk image 620x465]

That's not why we need it.  We need it because, from your link:
Gerald R. Ford will enter the fleet replacing the inactive  Enterprise (CVN-65), which ended its 51 years of active service in December 2012.

Now, the defense budget's line items do fall into three categories:
Cannot be cut
Can be cut
Should be cut

I do agree with you that a very significant portion of it falls into the latter two categories, the USS Gerald R Ford is really not one of them.


I would argue that building a ship that is can take on the combined power of the Navy's of the rest of the world is less important than feeding our citizens.

There are no other superpowers. The USS Enterprise was needed at the time, because we were afraid of the Soviets, but that's not our world.
 
2014-03-11 04:05:36 PM  
Well, duh.
 
2014-03-11 04:06:22 PM  

Dr Dreidel: "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."


This quote should be tatooed on every politician and posted every five feet in all government buildings.
 
2014-03-11 04:07:16 PM  
"There is a common misconception-magnified during the recent presidential election-that low income families are 'takers' who do not work, instead relying on government assistance to meet their needs. But in 2011, more than 7 in 10 low income families and half of all poor families were working.They simply didn't earn enough money to pay for basic living expenses."
 
2014-03-11 04:07:30 PM  

Raoul Eaton: So, unable to say the phrase "compassionate convervatism" with a straight face anymore, they've moved on to "life for people who have it hard should suck even more if we have any say over it."  Very nice.


But how else will the poors have the incentive to pull themselves up by their bootstraps?

/that was sarcasm
//i think i really felt that way, i would kill myself.
 
2014-03-11 04:07:38 PM  
FTA: Varney agreed that Republicans were the true victims here.

Deport this c*cksucker straight to Hell.
 
2014-03-11 04:09:13 PM  
I would love to see Stuart Varney lose his life savings through a Bernie Madoff style Ponzi scheme, need the social safety net, but not qualify due to some cuts he endorsed/promoted which wound up becoming law.
 
2014-03-11 04:10:32 PM  
Imagine how these buttholes would feel about a black gay person on food stamps.
 
2014-03-11 04:12:08 PM  

heavymetal: I would love to see Stuart Varney lose his life savings through a Bernie Madoff style Ponzi scheme, need the social safety net, but not qualify due to some cuts he endorsed/promoted which wound up becoming law.


Or how about sone kind of 'Trading Places' type experiment where he is reduced to nothing and a random black guy is given his job at Fox and his house and possessions?
 
2014-03-11 04:12:45 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: No one is feeding people for votes, you ignorant arrogant little asshat.

We're feeding people because they're human, they're hungry, and it is the right thing to do.

/an idea totally lost on you, I know.


This is the same guy who told off Pope Francis that he was ignorant of how unfettered capitalism was good for the soul and is what Jesus would have supported, and suggested that Francis crossed a line by trying to use religious faith to argue political points.

Based on his personal moral compass people like you who would be aligned with Satan to Varney.
 
2014-03-11 04:16:47 PM  

Cat Food Sandwiches: Confabulat: We get it, Republicans hate poor people and wish they would die or just go away somehow. We know.

I'm sure you've seen the numbers comparing Republicans' charitable contributions versus Democrats.  Because you have a different idea on how to help poor people doesn't mean you hate them.


This argument is total garbage. Why? Because, for one thing, ensuring that people eat, are sheltered, educated and housed ought to be the goal and practice of a modern, successful society. It ought not to be charity. The world and its resources belong to the people who were born here. It's not like they can go anywhere else. All government is is (at its best) is an expression of what we all in common want to accomplish. In this case, people should be fed because they are our people and not because they are charity cases. Also, in case you haven't heard, charities aren't doing particularly well lately, either. They can't keep up with the demand for what they provide. That means your glorious conservative donors alone can't manage it. If we the people can choose in common to bomb the shiat out of strangers, we the people can in common choose to feed our citizens.
 
2014-03-11 04:17:38 PM  

Splish: What precisely should be upsetting about that?


That we're supposed to be the wealthiest country in the world yet 1 in 4 kids is on SNAP may not bother you, but it does me.
 
2014-03-11 04:18:37 PM  
Finally, some honesty from these assholes.
 
2014-03-11 04:18:49 PM  

gshepnyc: If we the people can choose in common to bomb the shiat out of strangers, we the people can in common choose to feed our citizens.


The flaw in this argument, of course, is that Republicans are in favor of bombing our poor neighborhoods. Look how delighted so many of them were by Katrina.
 
2014-03-11 04:18:57 PM  
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2014-03-11 04:19:01 PM  

grumpfuff: ISOLATED INCIDENT! ROGUE STAFFER! FOX DOESN'T SPEAK FOR REPUBLICANS!


Neither does Sarah Palin, or Ted Nugent, or Michele Bachmann, or Steve Stockman, or Allen West, or Louis Gomert, or Wayne LaPierre, or Victoria Jackson, or Paul Broun, or any of the loons at CPAC

All just isolated, extremist rogue individuals.
 
2014-03-11 04:20:53 PM  
You do get demagogued, because you really are cutting off your nose to spite your face, all to score some political points with your ever shrinking base.

There is no cycle of food stamp dependence.

And Wal-Mart blamed lowered earnings on those very food stamp cuts.

We can help people off of food stamps by ensuring they actually have an economy that pays them a fair wage.

All the money all trickles up anyways, but on its way back up, generates a lot of economic activity.
 
2014-03-11 04:21:14 PM  

vernonFL: heavymetal: I would love to see Stuart Varney lose his life savings through a Bernie Madoff style Ponzi scheme, need the social safety net, but not qualify due to some cuts he endorsed/promoted which wound up becoming law.

Or how about sone kind of 'Trading Places' type experiment where he is reduced to nothing and a random black guy is given his job at Fox and his house and possessions?


Then in the end Steve Varney learns his lesson after moving in with a hooker, teams up with the black guy, and through zany shenanigans causes Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch to lose their fortunes in a shady futures deal gone wrong.
 
2014-03-11 04:21:40 PM  

lockers: [img.fark.net image 850x595]


That guy has the same TV he had 20 years ago and still is reading print newspapers. Hmm he sounds like a Fox News viewer.
 
2014-03-11 04:35:20 PM  
Now what's really going on here is the government's buying votes. They're keeping, churning out the food stamps in return for votes. That's what's happening."

Yes. The Democratic Party that does nice things for people are getting supported with their votes. Unlike the gop who abuses and torments the poor with sadistic glee, and then wonders why those dirty stinking subhuman poors refuse to vote republican. Damn ingrates!
 
2014-03-11 04:35:31 PM  

Rhino_man: what_now: How will we ever get a handle on our debt if you can't cut $8 billion out of food stamps over a 10-year period? How will you ever do that?"


Well, you pedantic little prick, we could start with the USS Gerald Ford, which is ESTIMATED to cost $17.5 billion dollars and is a first of it's kind super carrier.

But we need that, right? Because of this guy:

[www.independent.co.uk image 620x465]

That's not why we need it.  We need it because, from your link:
Gerald R. Ford will enter the fleet replacing the inactive  Enterprise (CVN-65), which ended its 51 years of active service in December 2012.

Now, the defense budget's line items do fall into three categories:
Cannot be cut
Can be cut
Should be cut

I do agree with you that a very significant portion of it falls into the latter two categories, the USS Gerald R Ford is really not one of them.


Why the hell not?  Why do we need to replace the Enterprise?  What catastrophe will befall if we just have fewer farking aircraft carriers?  We already have as many as the rest of the world put together, why do we need  more of the damn things?
 
2014-03-11 04:36:14 PM  
He brings shame to the name of Varney...
 
2014-03-11 04:38:48 PM  

Dr Dreidel: "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."// yup, still Rand Paul


fark that asshole.  He voted right along with the GOP to cut food stamps because he thinks millionaires are using them too much or something.  Rand may be against military spending, but he gives absolutely zero farks about the poor in this country.
 
2014-03-11 04:40:59 PM  

Raoul Eaton: So, unable to say the phrase "compassionate convervatism" with a straight face anymore, they've moved on to "life for people who have it hard should suck even more if we have any say over it." Very nice.


There's a reason they had to ADD the word "compassionate" in the first place.
 
2014-03-11 04:43:16 PM  

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Sin_City_Superhero: Marcus Aurelius: How anyone can watch this channel is way beyond me

I'll give you a hint: Arizona & Florida demographics.

The heat stroked and drug addled?


More like the old and stroke-addled, amirite?
 
2014-03-11 04:46:08 PM  

illogic: Dr Dreidel: "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."// yup, still Rand Paul

fark that asshole.  He voted right along with the GOP to cut food stamps because he thinks millionaires are using them too much or something.  Rand may be against military spending, but he gives absolutely zero farks about the poor in this country.


You, uh...may want to look up the origins of that quote.

// hint: not RANDPAUL
 
2014-03-11 04:46:19 PM  
What a miserable prick... How do some people watch a steady diet of this crap?
 
2014-03-11 04:47:18 PM  

toastmonkey42: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Sin_City_Superhero: Marcus Aurelius: How anyone can watch this channel is way beyond me

I'll give you a hint: Arizona & Florida demographics.

The heat stroked and drug addled?

More like the old and stroke-addled, amirite?


Worst. Soap Opera. Ever.
 
2014-03-11 04:48:38 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: grumpfuff: ISOLATED INCIDENT! ROGUE STAFFER! FOX DOESN'T SPEAK FOR REPUBLICANS!

Neither does Sarah Palin, or Ted Nugent, or Michele Bachmann, or Steve Stockman, or Allen West, or Louis Gomert, or Wayne LaPierre, or Victoria Jackson, or Paul Broun, or any of the loons at CPAC

All just isolated, extremist rogue individuals.


Don't forget those RINOs in Congress. Except for my representative. He's a true conservative hero.
 
2014-03-11 04:49:57 PM  

what_now: The USS Enterprise was needed at the time, because we were afraid of the Soviets, but that's not our world.


Who are we afraid of now?

Besides our own CIA, NSA, DHS, ICE, FBI, NSA, DOE, and DOJ?
 
2014-03-11 05:00:20 PM  
Jesus conservatives are f*ckin' mean. Seriously, buncha mean little f*cks.
 
2014-03-11 05:00:20 PM  
 
2014-03-11 05:03:10 PM  

Confabulat: Cat Food Sandwiches: Because you have a different idea on how to help poor people doesn't mean you hate them.

That is utter bullshiat. I've listened to enough Republicans talk. They DESPISE poor people and always blame them for being poor. Every time.

Republicans WANT poor people to suffer. They believe they deserve it. They say as much out loud all the time.


He's equating dumping money at the local mega church with helping the poor. That's what the survey did.
 
2014-03-11 05:03:33 PM  

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: No one is feeding people for votes, you ignorant arrogant little asshat.

We're feeding people because they're human, they're hungry, and it is the right thing to do.

/an idea totally lost on you, I know.


To be fair, people who have starved to death are pretty bad voters.

/except in Florida
//and Chicago
 
2014-03-11 05:04:02 PM  

Cat Food Sandwiches: Confabulat: We get it, Republicans hate poor people and wish they would die or just go away somehow. We know.

I'm sure you've seen the numbers comparing Republicans' charitable contributions versus Democrats.  Because you have a different idea on how to help poor people doesn't mean you hate them.


It's just that Republicans' words and deeds indicate that they do, in fact, hate poor people. At least as long as they are brown. And mostly white ones, too.
 
2014-03-11 05:05:13 PM  

UndeadPoetsSociety: Rhino_man: what_now: How will we ever get a handle on our debt if you can't cut $8 billion out of food stamps over a 10-year period? How will you ever do that?"


Well, you pedantic little prick, we could start with the USS Gerald Ford, which is ESTIMATED to cost $17.5 billion dollars and is a first of it's kind super carrier.

But we need that, right? Because of this guy:

[www.independent.co.uk image 620x465]

That's not why we need it.  We need it because, from your link:
Gerald R. Ford will enter the fleet replacing the inactive  Enterprise (CVN-65), which ended its 51 years of active service in December 2012.

Now, the defense budget's line items do fall into three categories:
Cannot be cut
Can be cut
Should be cut

I do agree with you that a very significant portion of it falls into the latter two categories, the USS Gerald R Ford is really not one of them.

Why the hell not?  Why do we need to replace the Enterprise?  What catastrophe will befall if we just have fewer farking aircraft carriers?  We already have as many as the rest of the world put together, why do we need  more of the damn things?


I will take a swing at this one.

Navy deployments put 2/3s of the fleet on work-ups or post-deployment shake-downs at any one time. This leaves between 3 and 4 carriers on deployment at any one time, one or two on-station, and one or two relieving them. The Navy does ensure right-of-transit in any of the contested or potentially-contested waterways in the world, and acts as the ocean's cops (yes, we are the world's police). No one else has our power-projection (no puns here), but everyone else does benefit from that projected power. For all our failures elsewhere, the Navy is a steadying hand on much of the world. It is a relief when a carrier can deliver 200000 gallons of water, daily, to people in distress, or can power a small country with the reactors.

Carriers play a very large "medium" power role in the nations defense. They can hit hard, especially when added with an amphibious group, but they provide plenty of regional and disaster support in peacetime. Gaps in coverage are much like gaps in car insurance: not necessarily noticeable when not needed  but darned expensive when needed and not there.
 
2014-03-11 05:09:32 PM  

whosits_112: He brings shame to the name of Varney...


I know. God, would you take this asshole and bring back Jim Varney?

vernonFL: heavymetal: I would love to see Stuart Varney lose his life savings through a Bernie Madoff style Ponzi scheme, need the social safety net, but not qualify due to some cuts he endorsed/promoted which wound up becoming law.

Or how about sone kind of 'Trading Places' type experiment where he is reduced to nothing and a random black guy is given his job at Fox and his house and possessions?


I'm quite convinced that the Koch Brothers have been trying to bring economic ruin to America over a $1 bet.
 
2014-03-11 05:11:57 PM  
Do Republicans really believe that charities would swoop in and save the nation's poor, if only we weren't forced to spend that money on taxes?

Of course they don't believe that; they know they'd spend that money on a new jet ski and the poor can go fark themselves.

And yes, this is what Republicans actually believe but are too scared to say out loud.
 
2014-03-11 05:18:26 PM  
Can we please all just acknowledge that the far right's true platform is feudalism? It's not even a joke anymore.
 
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