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(The Dish)   Five years in, with his approval rating tanking and the press circling like sharks, you'd think that the "Obama Era" would be over. You'd be wrong, however   (dish.andrewsullivan.com) divider line 92
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2014-03-11 02:00:37 PM
sullivan is right, of course. and he's hardly a liberal.
 
2014-03-11 02:05:30 PM
President Palin would have quit by now
 
2014-03-11 02:18:03 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: President Palin would have quit by now


President Palin would have nuked Switzerland by now. On accident.
 
2014-03-11 02:32:30 PM
Poor approval ratings could hurt his chances of being re-elected.
 
2014-03-11 02:33:42 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: Poor approval ratings could hurt his chances of being re-elected.


Personally I don't think he stands a chance
 
2014-03-11 02:34:08 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: MaudlinMutantMollusk: President Palin would have quit by now

President Palin would have nuked Switzerland by now. On accident.


President Palin would've traded the country for magic beans by now.
 
2014-03-11 02:34:24 PM
It's amazing how Obama's approval ratings have been tanking for years now, but still remain the same.
 
2014-03-11 02:42:49 PM
The man is going to destroy us all.  Just look at the facts.  Study it out.

i595.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-11 02:57:54 PM
 
2014-03-11 02:58:59 PM
And the viable sane better alternative from another party is..........what again?
 
2014-03-11 02:59:12 PM
Obamalamadingdong
 
2014-03-11 02:59:15 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sin_City_Superhero: Poor approval ratings could hurt his chances of being re-elected.

Personally I don't think he stands a chance


He's never getting my vote again.
 
2014-03-11 03:00:24 PM

ginandbacon: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sin_City_Superhero: Poor approval ratings could hurt his chances of being re-elected.

Personally I don't think he stands a chance

He's never getting my vote again.


I have severe doubts he'll even run in 2016.
 
2014-03-11 03:00:37 PM

amiable: "Tanking" lol

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.as px


Meh, it's the hook he thinks will get RINOs to read his stuff.
 
2014-03-11 03:03:53 PM

Hagbardr: ginandbacon: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sin_City_Superhero: Poor approval ratings could hurt his chances of being re-elected.

Personally I don't think he stands a chance

He's never getting my vote again.

I have severe doubts he'll even run in 2016.


Wow, that bad is it?
 
2014-03-11 03:04:06 PM

meat0918: amiable: "Tanking" lol

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.as px

Meh, it's the hook he thinks will get RINOs to read his stuff.


Derp Republic-like typing detected.
 
2014-03-11 03:04:08 PM
What are the bets?

The regular trolls will simply ignore this thread and it'll die after 50 comments of "yup, that's what we've been saying all along"

or

The regular trolls will do like the obamacare lady and say "I see your facts but I do not believe them because potato"
 
2014-03-11 03:04:10 PM
Oblig:

4ddad.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-03-11 03:05:17 PM
Well that tears it.  I'm not voting for him again.
 
2014-03-11 03:06:14 PM

ginandbacon: Hagbardr: ginandbacon: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sin_City_Superhero: Poor approval ratings could hurt his chances of being re-elected.

Personally I don't think he stands a chance

He's never getting my vote again.

I have severe doubts he'll even run in 2016.

Wow, that bad is it?


I've heard a rumour that it's gotten so bad that Hillary is planning to oust him.
 
2014-03-11 03:06:25 PM

Hagbardr: ginandbacon: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sin_City_Superhero: Poor approval ratings could hurt his chances of being re-elected.

Personally I don't think he stands a chance

He's never getting my vote again.

I have severe doubts he'll even run in 2016.


He's gonna bring in his Kanyan half brother to run in 2016!
 
2014-03-11 03:06:44 PM
Barrack the islamic shock Fartbongo
 
2014-03-11 03:07:33 PM

DemonEater: What are the bets?

The regular trolls will simply ignore this thread and it'll die after 50 comments of "yup, that's what we've been saying all along"

or

The regular trolls will do like the obamacare lady and say "I see your facts but I do not believe them because potato"


You forgot the part where they rush back to the thread five minutes before its locked and everyone is gone and spout more bullshiat acting like they "won" something by getting the last word.
 
2014-03-11 03:09:23 PM
wall street on a 5 year bull run?
unemployment on a 5 year low?

How can this country get any worse?
 
2014-03-11 03:10:02 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: ecmoRandomNumbers: MaudlinMutantMollusk: President Palin would have quit by now

President Palin would have nuked Switzerland by now. On accident.

President Palin would've traded the country for magic beans by now.


I think that trade happened a few times already.
 
2014-03-11 03:11:15 PM
Im a big fan of Andrew Sullivan.
 
2014-03-11 03:12:21 PM
The Obama administration is like a hastily-constructed tower made out of a pile of wooden blocks. Each day a new scandal removes one of the blocks and the whole thing will come crashing down any day now. It's like that game, oh what's it called again... ah yes, Jenghazi.
 
2014-03-11 03:12:56 PM

Kanemano: wall street on a 5 year bull run?
unemployment on a 5 year low?

How can this country get any worse?


well.. to be fair..  Unemployment needs to be much lower.  Economy needs to grow more.

Tax loopholes need to be closed so the rich can't hide their money.

Also, Single payer!
 
2014-03-11 03:13:05 PM
LIBRAL MEDIA!!!1
 
2014-03-11 03:13:10 PM
Obama has always played the long game.
 
2014-03-11 03:13:29 PM

mayIFark: Hagbardr: ginandbacon: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sin_City_Superhero: Poor approval ratings could hurt his chances of being re-elected.

Personally I don't think he stands a chance

He's never getting my vote again.

I have severe doubts he'll even run in 2016.

He's gonna bring in his Kanyan half brother to run in 2016!


Yo, Joey.  I'm really happy for you, I'ma let you get out on that campaign trail, but  my bro' Barry had one of the greatest presidencies OF ALL TIME!
 
2014-03-11 03:13:42 PM
with his approval rating tanking

www.redwinebuzz.com
 
2014-03-11 03:13:44 PM
Yes the approval rating that isn't tanking... and that darn liberal media who is so in his pocket.

It's like conservatives find the truth and then conciously invert it, point after point.
 
2014-03-11 03:14:25 PM
Going from record-highs (91% IIRC) to record-lows (26% IIRC) in just a shade over 5 years is "tanking" (or "abject failure").

Going from mid-60s to mid-40s is called "governing". Much like the physics of energy, "potential approval" is usually going to be higher than "observed approval" - Inauguration Obama was many things to all people, but then he had to go and collapse the waveform into observable reality.

// cesium wept
 
2014-03-11 03:14:31 PM

Doctor Funkenstein: The man is going to destroy us all.  Just look at the facts farts.  Study it out.

[i595.photobucket.com image 640x400]


/yes, i'm 12
 
2014-03-11 03:14:59 PM
now that the economy is on the mend, deficits are reducing and future debt is in decline,

DESPITE EFFORTS BY REPUBLICANS TO THWART AN OBAMA RECOVERY,

is Obama going to start sending out those unicorns he promised?
 
2014-03-11 03:15:07 PM

amiable: "Tanking" lol

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.as px


Dude. You're harshing my talking points.
 
2014-03-11 03:16:50 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: Doctor Funkenstein: The man is going to destroy us all.  Just look at the facts farts.  Study it out.

[i595.photobucket.com image 640x400]

/yes, i'm 12


Now, it's better!
 
2014-03-11 03:16:56 PM

vernonFL: Im a big fan of Andrew Sullivan.


He's a good writer, but he's myopic and petty and often just stupid. He's narcissistic, where if a policy issue is personally important to him, he'll go to the mat on it, but if its not, he'll mock and sneer at people who have passion for it. He's not very pleasant.
 
2014-03-11 03:20:36 PM
Tanking?
 
2014-03-11 03:21:04 PM
How OP's headline read...


Five years in, with his approval rating tanking and the press circling like sharks, you'd think that the "Obama Era" would be over.........

You'd be wrong, however


media.247sports.com
 
2014-03-11 03:21:49 PM

Dr Dreidel: Going from record-highs (91% IIRC) to record-lows (26% IIRC) in just a shade over 5 years is "tanking" (or "abject failure").

Going from mid-60s to mid-40s is called "governing". Much like the physics of energy, "potential approval" is usually going to be higher than "observed approval" - Inauguration Obama was many things to all people, but then he had to go and collapse the waveform into observable reality.

// cesium wept


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-11 03:22:16 PM

DamnYankees: vernonFL: Im a big fan of Andrew Sullivan.

He's a good writer, but he's myopic and petty and often just stupid. He's narcissistic, where if a policy issue is personally important to him, he'll go to the mat on it, but if its not, he'll mock and sneer at people who have passion for it. He's not very pleasant.


so.....British.
 
2014-03-11 03:24:03 PM
Gretchen GOP, stop trying to make fetch Obama's approval rating is tanking happen... It's not going to happen.
 
2014-03-11 03:26:24 PM

lockers: Barrack the islamic shock Fartbongo


How many bongos could a Fartbongo fart if a Fartbongo could fart bongos?
Potato it out...
 
2014-03-11 03:29:57 PM

bdub77: Oblig:

[4ddad.files.wordpress.com image 480x319]


Inevitable counterpoint: "nuh uh."
 
2014-03-11 03:30:24 PM

Isitoveryet: DamnYankees: vernonFL: Im a big fan of Andrew Sullivan.

He's a good writer, but he's myopic and petty and often just stupid. He's narcissistic, where if a policy issue is personally important to him, he'll go to the mat on it, but if its not, he'll mock and sneer at people who have passion for it. He's not very pleasant.

so.....British.


Heh...


"Dead!?! I just thought she was English!"
 
2014-03-11 03:30:50 PM
His rating has been at 44% +/- 5% for nearly the entirety of his Presidency.
 
2014-03-11 03:31:57 PM
Since Obama took office:

S&P up 140%
Unemployment rate down from peak of over 10% to under 7% (Stimulus)
Out of one war, out of both wars by end of year
Bin Laden dead
Qaddafi dead
Less dependence on foreign oil
Housing has mostly recovered
People with preexisting conditions have access to health insurance
Uninsured rate has dropped
Auto industry recovering
Boosted fuel efficiency standards
Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
Appointed two women to the Supreme Court, including the first Latino
Military budget declining
Invested in renewable energy

Improved international relationships
Dodd-Frank legislation under his watch (OK it's not a major win against Wall Street, but better than nothing)
Marijuana is quasi-legal in Colorado despite no Congressional attempts to reschedule it
Obesity rate has dropped over 40% for 2-5 year olds and among others has stabilized
Deficits dropping like a rock (projected 680 billion this year from 1.1 trillion last year).


Yeah, what a total failure of a president.

Is there stuff left? Yes, but Jesus man WTF do you want?

Inequality is still a fundamental issue. It has not improved. We didn't go after the Wall Street guys who made off with our money. Education still remains problematic, if a solvable one. There's still some very questionable stuff going on in our intelligence networks. The War on Drugs has not ended, just gone into wait and see mode. Citizens United was a massive blow to the electorate. The NDAA he signed was way too broad in scope about its ability to indefinitely detain US citizens without due process. Immigration reform remains a problem.

Most of the stuff left is crap he doesn't have any ability to enact or change because of Congress or the courts. I mean Congress is still hungup on the ACA.

Anyway, I don't care how you measure it, in my perspective the guy has done an outstanding job these five years. Not perfect, but cmon man WTF does anyone know about walking about in the President's shoes, dealing with a Congress hell bent on destroying him and a group of billionaires with an eye on funding crazies in local, state, and federal elections.
 
2014-03-11 03:36:50 PM
 
2014-03-11 03:37:26 PM
I'm sorry. This negates everything.

therightscoop.com
 
2014-03-11 03:37:47 PM
This means Zach Galafianakis is now Secretary of State and Obama and Magic Johnson have to swap bodies like a live action Disney movie.
 
2014-03-11 03:38:15 PM

Hagbardr: ginandbacon: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sin_City_Superhero: Poor approval ratings could hurt his chances of being re-elected.

Personally I don't think he stands a chance

He's never getting my vote again.

I have severe doubts he'll even run in 2016.


There are a buncha derpers out there who believe fanatically that Obummer is gonna remain in office.  Somehow, before his term is up he's gonna orchestrate some kinda clandestine coup that gives him the big chair in perpetuity.

With all the contempt aimed at W when he was in office, I do not recall democrats saying he would never leave.
 
2014-03-11 03:39:32 PM
Approval ratings, while sometimes feel good, are an increasingly irrelevant thing. Most people are not educated and experienced enough to weigh in with anything resembling coherency.
 
2014-03-11 03:39:59 PM
Oh I see FECKLESS is out in full force in this thread!
 
2014-03-11 03:40:14 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: MaudlinMutantMollusk: President Palin would have quit by now

President Palin would have nuked Switzerland by now. On accident.


Or Australia
 
2014-03-11 03:45:21 PM
I'm trying to think of a way to describe what happened to Greece in that first chart.  How are the Greeks taking it?
 
2014-03-11 03:48:02 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sin_City_Superhero: Poor approval ratings could hurt his chances of being re-elected.

Personally I don't think he stands a chance



After the UN invades, they'll just nullify the Constitution and make him President for Life.  So that's where you're wrong.
 
2014-03-11 03:52:19 PM

Raoul Eaton: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sin_City_Superhero: Poor approval ratings could hurt his chances of being re-elected.

Personally I don't think he stands a chance


After the UN invades, they'll just nullify the Constitution and make him President for Life.  So that's where you're wrong.


No one expects the UN incursion
 
2014-03-11 03:53:29 PM

ScaryBottles: DemonEater: What are the bets?

The regular trolls will simply ignore this thread and it'll die after 50 comments of "yup, that's what we've been saying all along"

or

The regular trolls will do like the obamacare lady and say "I see your facts but I do not believe them because potato"

You forgot the part where they rush back to the thread five minutes before its locked and everyone is gone and spout more bullshiat acting like they "won" something by getting the last word.


So... that's bad? I thought I was winning all those arguments because of my wits, charm and shiny hair.
 
2014-03-11 03:54:59 PM

Soup4Bonnie: I'm sorry. This negates everything.

[therightscoop.com image 850x498]


That chart was created Jan 2009, before the "recovery plan" was even finalized.
A drastically reduced "recovery" plan mostly didn't go into effect until Q1 2010. So all the dots in 2009 belong in the "without recovery plan" model. The chart was based upon a large recovery plan going into effect immediately upon inauguration.
So the chart should be relabeled.

Top dots, "Actual weakend recovery plan"
Next line "Theretical model of what might happen to our economy in the next few years without much data to back it up"
Bottom Line: "Pie in the sky best recovery plan"
 
2014-03-11 03:56:30 PM

MindStalker: That chart was created Jan 2009, before the "recovery plan" was even finalized.


Also well before the extent of the recession was even realized. In 2009, we drastically underestimated how bad the recession actually was even while it was happening.
 
2014-03-11 04:01:24 PM

amiable: "Tanking" lol

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.as px


Thanks...His "Tanking" is all within the margin of error, so essentially unchanged since May of 2010...

Yeah, a real disaster, this one. "Everyone" hates him.
 
2014-03-11 04:03:57 PM

nmrsnr: It's official: 2013 has ended with the majority of Americans disapproving of Obama as president. That means he has to leave the White House, right?

Nowhere Man: Just six months in, the Obama Administration must be asking how this second term so quickly got away from them

CNN poll shows that Americans are beginning to wake up and study it out

Obama's approval rating is his lowest ever. But Congress' is lower. So Obama has that going for him. Which is nice

Obama's approval rating falls as poll reflects volatility, density of American voters

News: Obama's approval ratings plummet to lowest ever. Fark: Still ahead of Clinton and Reagan

Obama's approval ratings plummet to 49%, and the American public trusts Republicans over him by a dizzying negative five points. This is bad news, for Obama

President Obama's approval rating hits historic low in poll. This is not a repeat from the last three weeks

Obama's approval rating - 40%, disapproval rating - 52%. At this point even Sarah Palin is starting to look pretty good

His approval ratings must be in the teens by now. No? It's still in the mid 40's? Huh.


images.wikia.com
 
2014-03-11 04:06:49 PM
"the press circling like sharks"? I thought the press was a bunch of Obama fellators.
 
2014-03-11 04:08:32 PM

The Why Not Guy: The Obama administration is like a hastily-constructed tower made out of a pile of wooden blocks. Each day a new scandal removes one of the blocks and the whole thing will come crashing down any day now. It's like that game, oh what's it called again... ah yes, Jenghazi.


You owe me a new laptop. And maybe some dry underwear.
 
2014-03-11 04:08:56 PM
Yeah, subs, the press really has it out for Obama.
 
2014-03-11 04:09:02 PM
ScaryBottles:

sweet babby jeebuz that's creepy
 
2014-03-11 04:11:23 PM

jigger: Yeah, subs, the press really has it out for Obama.


Since you tried so very hard you get my new favorite gif.

media.tumblr.com
 
2014-03-11 04:14:34 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Raoul Eaton: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Sin_City_Superhero: Poor approval ratings could hurt his chances of being re-elected.

Personally I don't think he stands a chance


After the UN invades, they'll just nullify the Constitution and make him President for Life.  So that's where you're wrong.

No one expects the UN incursion



That's the point.  They'll get you when you're least expecting it!
 
2014-03-11 04:16:20 PM
Mark my words, Ladies and Gents. In 2016, the media SH*THEADS are going to use the phrase "Obama Fatigue" in order to describe what they want you to believe is the electorate's desire for a fresh start (translation: VOTE REPUBLICAN). They whipped out that brainf*ck of a lie during the 2000 election by talking about "Clinton Fatigue" as the reason why Al Gore's chances aren't good.

They'll also feed you that tired old "close horse race" catchphrase like they did in 2012, trying to keep you biting your nails throughout the season, even though it's was going to be a total landslide for Obama known as far back as that Spring.

Watch it happen, and remember what I told you back in 2014 that they are going to pull that sh*t.

/The Mainstream Media is NOT your friend or mine.
 
2014-03-11 04:24:42 PM
.
 
2014-03-11 04:25:44 PM
Nothing to see here. Move along.
 
2014-03-11 04:26:14 PM

TV's Vinnie: Mark my words, Ladies and Gents. In 2016, the media SH*THEADS are going to use the phrase "Obama Fatigue" in order to describe what they want you to believe is the electorate's desire for a fresh start (translation: VOTE REPUBLICAN). They whipped out that brainf*ck of a lie during the 2000 election by talking about "Clinton Fatigue" as the reason why Al Gore's chances aren't good.

They'll also feed you that tired old "close horse race" catchphrase like they did in 2012, trying to keep you biting your nails throughout the season, even though it's was going to be a total landslide for Obama known as far back as that Spring.

Watch it happen, and remember what I told you back in 2014 that they are going to pull that sh*t.

/The Mainstream Media is NOT your friend or mine.


Biden's has more charisma and charm in one of those shining pearly whites than Al Gore does in his entire body, so that "fatigue" might not play as well.
 
2014-03-11 04:33:32 PM
There was supposed to be a gif with that, let's try again now that I've resized it a bit.

i457.photobucket.com
 
2014-03-11 04:45:37 PM

amiable: "Tanking" lol


Yep:

i.imgur.com

OMG TANKING SO HARD!!1!11!!one
 
2014-03-11 05:37:04 PM
The American political system is like a gigantic Mexican Christmas fiesta. Each political party is a huge piñata - a papier-mâché donkey, for example. The donkey is filled with full employment, low interest rates, affordable housing, comprehensive medical benefits, a balanced budget and other goodies. The American voter is blindfoled and given a stick. The voter then swings the stick wildly in every direction, trying to hit a political candidate on the head and knock some sense into the silly bastard. 

P.J. O'Rourke
 
2014-03-11 06:31:38 PM

LewDux: ecmoRandomNumbers: MaudlinMutantMollusk: President Palin would have quit by now

President Palin would have nuked Switzerland by now. On accident.

Or Australia


To be fair, Australia has it coming for that whole "Hitler" fiasco.
 
2014-03-11 06:33:45 PM

DamnYankees: vernonFL: Im a big fan of Andrew Sullivan.

He's a good writer, but he's myopic and petty and often just stupid. He's narcissistic, where if a policy issue is personally important to him, he'll go to the mat on it, but if its not, he'll mock and sneer at people who have passion for it. He's not very pleasant.


He is also, like a lot of English ex-pats, mysteriously incapable of understanding really basic stuff about US politics. Even after being here for decades. He isn't wrong here(other than for that absurd "tanking" comment"), but I've seen him write some howlers in his time, particularly whenever he starts talking about state politics, or policy implementation at the State/county/municipal level.
 
2014-03-11 06:35:23 PM

lockers: Barrack the islamic shock Fartbongo


Someone needs to repost that list and the mocked up "real" birth-certificate for nostalgia :)
 
2014-03-11 07:21:53 PM
"Tanking" must not mean what I think it means:

i1049.photobucket.com

I see 'tanking' on that graph, but I'm pretty sure it's not Obama.
 
2014-03-11 08:41:39 PM
If someone had suggested to me in 2009 that by 2014, after the worst recession since the 1930s and after the huge debt pile-up in the Bush years that the US would be growing steadily, gaining energy independence, and cutting its deficit deeply"

Yes folks in one fell swoop this idiot sings Obama's praises while crediting the recovery to things that Republicans pushed for over the objections of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, while this trio did everything they could to make the deficit catastrophically worse, which this guy attacks Bush for.

Welcome to Dummycrat central where nobody wears shoes with laces because they forgot how to tie them.
 
2014-03-11 08:51:12 PM

Animatronik: If someone had suggested to me in 2009 that by 2014, after the worst recession since the 1930s and after the huge debt pile-up in the Bush years that the US would be growing steadily, gaining energy independence, and cutting its deficit deeply"

Yes folks in one fell swoop this idiot sings Obama's praises while crediting the recovery to things that Republicans pushed for over the objections of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, while this trio did everything they could to make the deficit catastrophically worse, which this guy attacks Bush for.

Welcome to Dummycrat central where nobody wears shoes with laces because they forgot how to tie them.


8/10. Bonus points for the use of Dummycrat and the ad hominem attack at the end.
 
2014-03-11 09:35:57 PM

Soup4Bonnie: I'm sorry. This negates everything.

[therightscoop.com image 850x498]


Whenever some moron talks about "labor force participation," Adam Smith kicks a kitten in the throat.

/people retire!?
//When did that start happening!?
 
2014-03-11 10:03:09 PM

Animatronik: If someone had suggested to me in 2009 that by 2014, after the worst recession since the 1930s and after the huge debt pile-up in the Bush years that the US would be growing steadily, gaining energy independence, and cutting its deficit deeply"

Yes folks in one fell swoop this idiot sings Obama's praises while crediting the recovery to things that Republicans pushed for over the objections of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, while this trio did everything they could to make the deficit catastrophically worse, which this guy attacks Bush for.

Welcome to Dummycrat central where nobody wears shoes with laces because they forgot how to tie them.


Citation or shut the fark up already. We're all sick of hearing about your bleeding ass. If you got nothing to show then quit your hysterical crying. Seriously you might be the first to wind up on my ignore list out of sheer boredom.
 
2014-03-11 11:58:47 PM

Animatronik: If someone had suggested to me in 2009 that by 2014, after the worst recession since the 1930s and after the huge debt pile-up in the Bush years that the US would be growing steadily, gaining energy independence, and cutting its deficit deeply"

Yes folks in one fell swoop this idiot sings Obama's praises while crediting the recovery to things that Republicans pushed for over the objections of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, while this trio did everything they could to make the deficit catastrophically worse, which this guy attacks Bush for.

Welcome to Dummycrat central where nobody wears shoes with laces because they forgot how to tie them.


Four years ago, Liberals said that not only would the recovery happen, but that Republicans would try to take credit for it.  Fark Independents, of course, angrily denied it.

And no, the Republicans get zero credit for this.
 
2014-03-12 12:21:26 AM
Well, that's it. Obama has blown this chance at a third term then...
 
2014-03-12 08:26:55 AM

ristst: With all the contempt aimed at W when he was in office, I do not recall democrats saying he would never leave.


I do. It was as a matter of obscurity - it was suggested that W could, possibly, run for a third term because he had only been 'elected' once.

It was a pretty fringe view, though.
 
2014-03-12 08:50:24 AM

TalenLee: I do. It was as a matter of obscurity - it was suggested that W could, possibly, run for a third term because he had only been 'elected' once.


Y'know...I never heard that one.  But geez I've heard this about Obama pretty much from day one.

I've mentioned here a few times that I was on an email distribution list for some years, until a bunch of the members went off the derp end with this subject.  They really believe Obama is going to illegally maintain the presidency by some unknown method.  Oh, and they didn't call him by name...they called him "the messiah"...in a really nasty contemptuous manner.

Which is fine...like or dislike whomever you please.  But all this shiat about "Obummer's gonna be president for life!!!"  FFS, get a frikkin' grip....
 
2014-03-12 11:35:37 AM

TalenLee: ristst: With all the contempt aimed at W when he was in office, I do not recall democrats saying he would never leave.

I do. It was as a matter of obscurity - it was suggested that W could, possibly, run for a third term because he had only been 'elected' once.

It was a pretty fringe view, though.


I remember some speculation that W was going to declare martial law, thereby suspending elections.
 
2014-03-12 12:09:34 PM

Heron: DamnYankees: vernonFL: Im a big fan of Andrew Sullivan.

He's a good writer, but he's myopic and petty and often just stupid. He's narcissistic, where if a policy issue is personally important to him, he'll go to the mat on it, but if its not, he'll mock and sneer at people who have passion for it. He's not very pleasant.

He is also, like a lot of English ex-pats, mysteriously incapable of understanding really basic stuff about US politics. Even after being here for decades. He isn't wrong here(other than for that absurd "tanking" comment"), but I've seen him write some howlers in his time, particularly whenever he starts talking about state politics, or policy implementation at the State/county/municipal level.


I really like his blog, I came to these comments to see what people here thought about Dish/Sullivan.

I've seen a lot of what both of you are seeing there, but when it comes to National Politics I glean a LOT of good insights from him and his links... plus as an actual real live Moderate Democrat I like to have some thoughts from the Conservative side that are sane, not Faux News lies or Obamabenghaziderp rantings. Plus I've picked up on a bunch of non-political interesting stuff there.

And yes I know "Real Murican" Conservatives consider him, along with anyone else slightly based in reality, a Rino at best. Sigh.
 
2014-03-12 12:11:25 PM

Animatronik: If someone had suggested to me in 2009 that by 2014, after the worst recession since the 1930s and after the huge debt pile-up in the Bush years that the US would be growing steadily, gaining energy independence, and cutting its deficit deeply"

Yes folks in one fell swoop this idiot sings Obama's praises while crediting the recovery to things that Republicans pushed for over the objections of Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, while this trio did everything they could to make the deficit catastrophically worse, which this guy attacks Bush for.

Welcome to Dummycrat central where nobody wears shoes with laces because they forgot how to tie them.


Well that answers the Troll question.
 
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