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2014-03-11 05:20:25 PM

qorkfiend: drew46n2: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: drew46n2: Baryogenesis: it isn't as though Robb's book wife is a major character.


it's a major plot point since her family were Lannister bannermen and her mother was implicated in the conspiracy to kill Robb.

Nope. Just a plot point. Not a major plot point.

*pats head*

You make a good point, I'll be you're a big fan of Ros the whore as well.

I bet you think that was a clever rejoinder.


Not nearly as clever as the "Pod the Rod" storyline, am i right! THAT was clever, I'll bet Martin is so jelly he didn't put it in the books!
 
2014-03-11 05:22:35 PM

drew46n2: Baryogenesis: it isn't as though Robb's book wife is a major character.


it's a major plot point since her family were Lannister bannermen and her mother was implicated in the conspiracy to kill Robb. But you're right, it didn't affect any cool action, gratuitous sex, or dragon scenes so no big loss for the TV audience.


At best that's a very minor plot point that makes Tywin look slightly more cunning than before. Whoop De doo.   In terms of streamlining a lengthy book series into 10 episode seasons, it's not a big deal.  Are you going to get upset that characters don't precisely match their book descriptions now?
 
2014-03-11 05:26:11 PM

Baryogenesis: drew46n2: Baryogenesis: it isn't as though Robb's book wife is a major character.


it's a major plot point since her family were Lannister bannermen and her mother was implicated in the conspiracy to kill Robb. But you're right, it didn't affect any cool action, gratuitous sex, or dragon scenes so no big loss for the TV audience.

At best that's a very minor plot point that makes Tywin look slightly more cunning than before. Whoop De doo.   In terms of streamlining a lengthy book series into 10 episode seasons, it's not a big deal.  Are you going to get upset that characters don't precisely match their book descriptions now?



My point is that while they cut things that make the story more interesting, they also add filler that do nothing to advance the plot or develop characters, like Ros the Whore, The Podrick Payne sex god bullshiat, or the complete lack of Ramsey-as-Reek. I enjoy the show but am not deluded into thinking it is anything other than an extremely dumbed-down version of a very detailed and interesting series.
 
2014-03-11 05:28:30 PM

qorkfiend: ScaryBottles: qorkfiend: ScaryBottles: You think season 2 was spot on? Seriously are farking trolling? Eve people who never read the books think it sucked massively.

Not sure if serious.

Where do you feel season 2 deviated significantly from the book? And why do you think that people who thought that season 2 hewed pretty closely to book 2 are "farking trolling"?

Literally I could name unfortunate differences all night here. As far as what people thought go over to westeros.org or the citadel and ask people what they thought of season 2. I'm not sure how many users the citadel has but I know westeros has over two million. Go ahead ask trust me you're going to get about the same response as you will here linking to the free republic but without the even marginal attempts at moderation we get around here so yeah its not just me. Go on I'll wait.

Did I assert that the two were exactly identical? No, I asked where you (not westeros.org) thought season 2 deviated significantly from book 2. I'm not impressed by nitpicked laundry list of completely inconsequential differences.

In any case, you seriously need to simmer down.


Okay just remember you started this cubby.

Vargo Hoat
Weasel Soup
Allister Thorne vs. Tyrion Lannister
Chains
Lollys
The Second Sons
Loras not joining the Kingsguard
Tywin Lannister vs. Arya Stark
Brienne "the Beauty"
The Walls of Storm's End
The Hound vs. Bronn the Black
Bronn being King Shiat of Fark Mountain for that matter.....

Thats before I even get into Littlefinger stealing everyone's lines. There is a dozen just off the top of my head without looking up anything. Shall I go on?
 
2014-03-11 05:32:25 PM

drew46n2: Baryogenesis: drew46n2: Baryogenesis: it isn't as though Robb's book wife is a major character.


it's a major plot point since her family were Lannister bannermen and her mother was implicated in the conspiracy to kill Robb. But you're right, it didn't affect any cool action, gratuitous sex, or dragon scenes so no big loss for the TV audience.

At best that's a very minor plot point that makes Tywin look slightly more cunning than before. Whoop De doo.   In terms of streamlining a lengthy book series into 10 episode seasons, it's not a big deal.  Are you going to get upset that characters don't precisely match their book descriptions now?


My point is that while they cut things that make the story more interesting, they also add filler that do nothing to advance the plot or develop characters, like Ros the Whore, The Podrick Payne sex god bullshiat, or the complete lack of Ramsey-as-Reek. I enjoy the show but am not deluded into thinking it is anything other than an extremely dumbed-down version of a very detailed and interesting series.


But that's not the converstaion.  We were talking about the shows deviating from major plot points, which it doesn't.  You can't pack 900-1100 page books into a 10 episode season.  OF COURSE they're going to leave out those types of details and simplify the plot.  They don't have time for 20 minutes of exposition every episode to explain what the fark is going on.
 
2014-03-11 05:32:58 PM

Nabb1: Everyone has access to season four. They are called BOOKS.


Have you seen books 4 and 5?  Each one is more huger than the previous one.  Plus the HBO series deviates from the books.
 
2014-03-11 05:38:59 PM

Graffito: Nabb1: Everyone has access to season four. They are called BOOKS.

Have you seen books 4 and 5?  Each one is more huger than the previous one.  Plus the HBO series deviates from the books.


I know, English is hard...
 
2014-03-11 05:40:40 PM

Tarl3k: Graffito: Nabb1: Everyone has access to season four. They are called BOOKS.

Have you seen books 4 and 5?  Each one is more huger than the previous one.  Plus the HBO series deviates from the books.

I know, English is hard...


That was deliberate.  Actually what I want to say was, "more hugerer."  It's late and I was trying to be ironic.
 
2014-03-11 05:41:25 PM
Its all tired fantasy crap anyway. Some problem comes up and some badly dressed old man spews some forced sounding fake wisdom then shoots sparkles out of his hands and everything is OK without anyone having actually done anything.

If you care about this crap at all your basically an extremely old preteen.
 
2014-03-11 05:43:22 PM

Ned Stark: Its all tired fantasy crap anyway. Some problem comes up and some badly dressed old man spews some forced sounding fake wisdom then shoots sparkles out of his hands and everything is OK without anyone having actually done anything.

If you care about this crap at all your basically an extremely old preteen.


static1.fjcdn.com
 
2014-03-11 06:01:53 PM
ts1.mm.bing.net


Lando Lincoln: But will he throw George R R Martin in Gitmo so he'll finish the goddamn books?


Don't worry, pizzas are coming.
 
2014-03-11 06:10:18 PM

Graffito: Nabb1: Everyone has access to season four. They are called BOOKS.

Have you seen books 4 and 5?  Each one is more huger than the previous one.  Plus the HBO series deviates from the books.


Yes, I've red them all. I particularly enjoyed watching the reactions of people who hadn't read them when they saw the red wedding last season. I had to read that chapter three times just to be sure I had really read what I just read.
 
2014-03-11 06:12:25 PM

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: drew46n2: qorkfiend: ScaryBottles: You think season 2 was spot on? Seriously are farking trolling? Eve people who never read the books think it sucked massively.

Not sure if serious.

Where do you feel season 2 deviated significantly from the book? And why do you think that people who thought that season 2 hewed pretty closely to book 2 are "farking trolling"?


Are you serious? Apart from there being TWO shadowbabies in the book and the show showing the wrong one killing Renly, and Robb marrying the wrong farking woman, there were plenty more.

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Differences_between_books_and_TV _s eries_-_Season_2

Are you one of those people that is angry about Peter Jackson leaving Tom Bombadil out of "The Fellowship of the Ring"? Movie adaptations are just that: adaptations. Their goal isn't to simply act out the book as written scene for scene. As long as the final product maintains the same central characters and plot and it's entertaining, what's the problem?


Assburgers.
 
2014-03-11 06:20:48 PM
But did like the ending to True Detective?
 
2014-03-11 06:22:24 PM

Nabb1: Graffito: Nabb1: Everyone has access to season four. They are called BOOKS.

Have you seen books 4 and 5?  Each one is more huger than the previous one.  Plus the HBO series deviates from the books.

Yes, I've red them all. I particularly enjoyed watching the reactions of people who hadn't read them when they saw the red wedding last season. I had to read that chapter three times just to be sure I had really read what I just read.


Oh yeah I tried my damnedest to get my buddy Mal to skip work and watch it over at my place. I was going to post his reaction on you tube.
 
2014-03-11 06:32:00 PM

Graffito: Tarl3k: Graffito: Nabb1: Everyone has access to season four. They are called BOOKS.

Have you seen books 4 and 5?  Each one is more huger than the previous one.  Plus the HBO series deviates from the books.

I know, English is hard...

That was deliberate.  Actually what I want to say was, "more hugerer."  It's late and I was trying to be ironic.


Fair enough
 
2014-03-11 06:33:36 PM
HODORGATE!
 
2014-03-11 06:49:20 PM

Baryogenesis: drew46n2: Baryogenesis: drew46n2: Baryogenesis: it isn't as though Robb's book wife is a major character.


it's a major plot point since her family were Lannister bannermen and her mother was implicated in the conspiracy to kill Robb. But you're right, it didn't affect any cool action, gratuitous sex, or dragon scenes so no big loss for the TV audience.

At best that's a very minor plot point that makes Tywin look slightly more cunning than before. Whoop De doo.   In terms of streamlining a lengthy book series into 10 episode seasons, it's not a big deal.  Are you going to get upset that characters don't precisely match their book descriptions now?


My point is that while they cut things that make the story more interesting, they also add filler that do nothing to advance the plot or develop characters, like Ros the Whore, The Podrick Payne sex god bullshiat, or the complete lack of Ramsey-as-Reek. I enjoy the show but am not deluded into thinking it is anything other than an extremely dumbed-down version of a very detailed and interesting series.

But that's not the converstaion.  We were talking about the shows deviating from major plot points, which it doesn't.  You can't pack 900-1100 page books into a 10 episode season.  OF COURSE they're going to leave out those types of details and simplify the plot.  They don't have time for 20 minutes of exposition every episode to explain what the fark is going on.


That and Ros (or someone like her) had to exist to keep Littlefinger as a character who did something other than quarrel with Varys and to have his betrayal of Ned make sense outside of "OMG Swerve".  Since the book chapters are narrated by the character, you either had to have someone for Littlefinger to be talking to (who wasn't otherwise in a position to be involved in the plot or to be someone who would have access to a Stark or a Lannister) or have him spend all of his scenes talking to himself.

You don't have to "like" Ros to understand the need for her to have existed.
 
2014-03-11 06:50:07 PM
I've saved all my butthurt for the fact that Strong Belwas won't be in the TV series at all.
 
2014-03-11 06:55:53 PM

Mikey1969: While the rest of us struggle with expensive cable packages or try to bum HBO GO passwords...

Really? I pay either $7 or $10 a month for HBO. That's 2 StupiduCinos from Starbuck's. Calm down, it's not 1980 anymore, HBO is pretty goddamn cheap.


If you want just HBO it's $80 a month and only in select cities. So there's that.
 
2014-03-11 07:22:09 PM
I read the first three books years ago and just couldn't read any further. It's like reading first hand accounts of the inquisition or the Salem witch trials. I'm sure that there's some narrative value and depth to be explored there, but really, it's just a lot of really remarkable examples of human waste abusing each other and everyone else. There's obviously an audience for it, but I'm not it.
 
2014-03-11 08:13:26 PM
I really like the first book. I liked the setting, i liked the characters, i liled the possibilities. It wasnt earth shattering, but it was a solid step above a lot of the mindless crap out there.

By the end of the third book, I realized that Martin had disappeared up his own ass and was no longer telling a story I was interested in reading. His pack g is miserable, his exposition is stilted, his characters are flat. I do not care to find out what happens to Hot Pie.

If he finishes the series, I'll pick up the books to find out how it ends. Otherwise, three was enough.
 
2014-03-11 08:17:12 PM

The Larch: I really like the first book. I liked the setting, i liked the characters, i liled the possibilities. It wasnt earth shattering, but it was a solid step above a lot of the mindless crap out there.

By the end of the third book, I realized that Martin had disappeared up his own ass and was no longer telling a story I was interested in reading. His pack g is miserable, his exposition is stilted, his characters are flat. I do not care to find out what happens to Hot Pie.

If he finishes the series, I'll pick up the books to find out how it ends. Otherwise, three was enough.


WTF is "pack g"?
 
2014-03-11 08:17:42 PM

Mikey1969: Really? I pay either $7 or $10 a month for HBO. That's 2 StupiduCinos from Starbuck's. Calm down, it's not 1980 anymore, HBO is pretty goddamn cheap.


That would require getting a cable subscription.  And that's not cheap.
 
2014-03-11 08:18:57 PM
I'm in the middle of book 5.

Book four was so freakin' hard to read.   Who gives a shiat about the Dornish!  Grrr.  So many useless subplots it makes you want to go to the Wall.  But anyway, 5 has been great so far.  He better finish six before I'm done or they'll be hell to pay.

/not hopeful  :(
 
2014-03-11 08:22:40 PM

Teufelaffe: The Larch: I really like the first book. I liked the setting, i liked the characters, i liled the possibilities. It wasnt earth shattering, but it was a solid step above a lot of the mindless crap out there.

By the end of the third book, I realized that Martin had disappeared up his own ass and was no longer telling a story I was interested in reading. His pack g is miserable, his exposition is stilted, his characters are flat. I do not care to find out what happens to Hot Pie.

If he finishes the series, I'll pick up the books to find out how it ends. Otherwise, three was enough.

WTF is "pack g"?


That's how "pacing" is spelled on a tiny little phone keyboard.
 
2014-03-11 08:40:15 PM

BlackPete: Mikey1969: Really? I pay either $7 or $10 a month for HBO. That's 2 StupiduCinos from Starbuck's. Calm down, it's not 1980 anymore, HBO is pretty goddamn cheap.

That would require getting a cable subscription.  And that's not cheap.


Pfft... Basic cable can be as cheap as $20, with HBO, it's still only $30. Less than most people's Internet. TFA acts like you need a second job just to watch GOT. Sorry, they're blowing things out of proportion.
 
2014-03-11 08:47:31 PM

Baryogenesis: drew46n2: Baryogenesis: it isn't as though Robb's book wife is a major character.


it's a major plot point since her family were Lannister bannermen and her mother was implicated in the conspiracy to kill Robb. But you're right, it didn't affect any cool action, gratuitous sex, or dragon scenes so no big loss for the TV audience.

At best that's a very minor plot point that makes Tywin look slightly more cunning than before. Whoop De doo.   In terms of streamlining a lengthy book series into 10 episode seasons, it's not a big deal.  Are you going to get upset that characters don't precisely match their book descriptions now?


I'll admit, I was very disappointed with Jamie's casting.. he's supposed to be.. well.. beautiful
 
2014-03-11 09:22:53 PM

Elbarfo: I'm in the middle of book 5.

Book four was so freakin' hard to read.   Who gives a shiat about the Dornish!  Grrr.  So many useless subplots it makes you want to go to the Wall.  But anyway, 5 has been great so far.  He better finish six before I'm done or they'll be hell to pay.

/not hopeful  :(


After book 4 was the worst of the series I was REALLY surprised at how good book 5 was...it could have been because he was actually writing about characters I care about and not a bunch of BS about characters that he felt the need to wedge in there for some odd reason
 
2014-03-11 09:31:37 PM

The Larch: his characters are flat



that's funny, even critics of Martin admit his characters, especially the women, are nuanced, deep, and well-written.

But then again after the 3rd book, arguable the most riveting of the series, you were done, so we can all take your critique with a massive grain of salt.
 
2014-03-11 09:37:52 PM

ScaryBottles: qorkfiend: ScaryBottles: You think season 2 was spot on? Seriously are farking trolling? Eve people who never read the books think it sucked massively.

Not sure if serious.

Where do you feel season 2 deviated significantly from the book? And why do you think that people who thought that season 2 hewed pretty closely to book 2 are "farking trolling"?

Literally I could name unfortunate differences all night here. As far as what people thought go over to westeros.org or the citadel and ask people what they thought of season 2. I'm not sure how many users the citadel has but I know westeros has over two million. Go ahead ask trust me you're going to get about the same response as you will here linking to the free republic but without the even marginal attempts at moderation we get around here so yeah its not just me. Go on I'll wait.


Yes, can I PLEASE get the opinion of a bunch of fanboys, who have neither left their parent's basement in the last 15 years nor experiencedthe joys of sex.  I am sure that will solve everything.  Btw, if you can't understand why the TV show would differ quite drastically from the books you really need to grow up...

One more thing, the TV show can do cool stuff that the books just CAN'T, like the cool reveal in the series that Daenerys could speak Valyrian the whole time the slavemaster of the Unsullied was talking shiat about her.  Something like that just doesn't work in the books, where it does on TV...
 
2014-03-11 10:12:17 PM

Tarl3k: ScaryBottles: qorkfiend: ScaryBottles: You think season 2 was spot on? Seriously are farking trolling? Eve people who never read the books think it sucked massively.

Not sure if serious.

Where do you feel season 2 deviated significantly from the book? And why do you think that people who thought that season 2 hewed pretty closely to book 2 are "farking trolling"?

Literally I could name unfortunate differences all night here. As far as what people thought go over to westeros.org or the citadel and ask people what they thought of season 2. I'm not sure how many users the citadel has but I know westeros has over two million. Go ahead ask trust me you're going to get about the same response as you will here linking to the free republic but without the even marginal attempts at moderation we get around here so yeah its not just me. Go on I'll wait.

Yes, can I PLEASE get the opinion of a bunch of fanboys, who have neither left their parent's basement in the last 15 years nor experiencedthe joys of sex.  I am sure that will solve everything.  Btw, if you can't understand why the TV show would differ quite drastically from the books you really need to grow up...

One more thing, the TV show can do cool stuff that the books just CAN'T, like the cool reveal in the series that Daenerys could speak Valyrian the whole time the slavemaster of the Unsullied was talking shiat about her.  Something like that just doesn't work in the books, where it does on TV...


Lol Wut? It was much better in the books, stop trolling
 
2014-03-11 10:20:44 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: StrikitRich: You could always opt for the audio book.

oh sweet lord could you imagine the Song of Fire and Ice read to you in a perfect monotone?

talk about gitmo


The Song of what now?
 
2014-03-11 10:22:56 PM

Tarl3k: ScaryBottles: qorkfiend: ScaryBottles: You think season 2 was spot on? Seriously are farking trolling? Eve people who never read the books think it sucked massively.

Not sure if serious.

Where do you feel season 2 deviated significantly from the book? And why do you think that people who thought that season 2 hewed pretty closely to book 2 are "farking trolling"?

Literally I could name unfortunate differences all night here. As far as what people thought go over to westeros.org or the citadel and ask people what they thought of season 2. I'm not sure how many users the citadel has but I know westeros has over two million. Go ahead ask trust me you're going to get about the same response as you will here linking to the free republic but without the even marginal attempts at moderation we get around here so yeah its not just me. Go on I'll wait.

Yes, can I PLEASE get the opinion of a bunch of fanboys, who have neither left their parent's basement in the last 15 years nor experiencedthe joys of sex.  I am sure that will solve everything.  Btw, if you can't understand why the TV show would differ quite drastically from the books you really need to grow up...

One more thing, the TV show can do cool stuff that the books just CAN'T, like the cool reveal in the series that Daenerys could speak Valyrian the whole time the slavemaster of the Unsullied was talking shiat about her.  Something like that just doesn't work in the books, where it does on TV...


You're hysterically shrieking at some random guy on the intertubes that they have never gotten laid because he disagrees with you but I'm the nutso fanboi sweetheart?

The Dans are not coming to your house wearing nothing but raincoats and negligees.
 
2014-03-11 10:23:51 PM

Tarl3k: One more thing, the TV show can do cool stuff that the books just CAN'T, like the cool reveal in the series that Daenerys could speak Valyrian the whole time the slavemaster of the Unsullied was talking shiat about her.  Something like that just doesn't work in the books, where it does on TV...


LOLWUT

Yes, books are just incapable of reveals like that.  *eyeroll*
 
2014-03-11 10:24:31 PM

Tarl3k: ScaryBottles: qorkfiend: ScaryBottles: You think season 2 was spot on? Seriously are farking trolling? Eve people who never read the books think it sucked massively.

Not sure if serious.

Where do you feel season 2 deviated significantly from the book? And why do you think that people who thought that season 2 hewed pretty closely to book 2 are "farking trolling"?

Literally I could name unfortunate differences all night here. As far as what people thought go over to westeros.org or the citadel and ask people what they thought of season 2. I'm not sure how many users the citadel has but I know westeros has over two million. Go ahead ask trust me you're going to get about the same response as you will here linking to the free republic but without the even marginal attempts at moderation we get around here so yeah its not just me. Go on I'll wait.

Yes, can I PLEASE get the opinion of a bunch of fanboys, who have neither left their parent's basement in the last 15 years nor experiencedthe joys of sex.  I am sure that will solve everything.  Btw, if you can't understand why the TV show would differ quite drastically from the books you really need to grow up...

One more thing, the TV show can do cool stuff that the books just CAN'T, like the cool reveal in the series that Daenerys could speak Valyrian the whole time the slavemaster of the Unsullied was talking shiat about her.  Something like that just doesn't work in the books, where it does on TV...


Oops almost forgot....

www.optionated.com
 
2014-03-11 10:37:30 PM

drew46n2: Tarl3k: ScaryBottles: qorkfiend: ScaryBottles: You think season 2 was spot on? Seriously are farking trolling? Eve people who never read the books think it sucked massively.

Not sure if serious.

Where do you feel season 2 deviated significantly from the book? And why do you think that people who thought that season 2 hewed pretty closely to book 2 are "farking trolling"?

Literally I could name unfortunate differences all night here. As far as what people thought go over to westeros.org or the citadel and ask people what they thought of season 2. I'm not sure how many users the citadel has but I know westeros has over two million. Go ahead ask trust me you're going to get about the same response as you will here linking to the free republic but without the even marginal attempts at moderation we get around here so yeah its not just me. Go on I'll wait.

Yes, can I PLEASE get the opinion of a bunch of fanboys, who have neither left their parent's basement in the last 15 years nor experiencedthe joys of sex.  I am sure that will solve everything.  Btw, if you can't understand why the TV show would differ quite drastically from the books you really need to grow up...

One more thing, the TV show can do cool stuff that the books just CAN'T, like the cool reveal in the series that Daenerys could speak Valyrian the whole time the slavemaster of the Unsullied was talking shiat about her.  Something like that just doesn't work in the books, where it does on TV...

Lol Wut? It was much better in the books, stop trolling


In the book, it's Dany's POV so you know she understands him. There's no mystery or "oh snap" moment.
 
2014-03-11 10:47:16 PM

Nabb1: Everyone has access to season four. They are called BOOKS.


I was told there would be no literacy.
 
2014-03-11 10:54:36 PM

Teufelaffe: I've saved all my butthurt for the fact that Strong Belwas won't be in the TV series at all.


Wait really? That guy is crucial in a dance with dragons. Plus, you know, being a bamf.
 
2014-03-11 10:57:01 PM

ScaryBottles: Nabb1: Graffito: Nabb1: Everyone has access to season four. They are called BOOKS.

Have you seen books 4 and 5?  Each one is more huger than the previous one.  Plus the HBO series deviates from the books.

Yes, I've red them all. I particularly enjoyed watching the reactions of people who hadn't read them when they saw the red wedding last season. I had to read that chapter three times just to be sure I had really read what I just read.

Oh yeah I tried my damnedest to get my buddy Mal to skip work and watch it over at my place. I was going to post his reaction on you tube.


Do it for jeoffrey's wedding. Plus when tyrion makes his jail break. Both of those episodes are going to have just as big of a reaction as the red wedding.
 
2014-03-11 11:01:37 PM

Baryogenesis: drew46n2: Tarl3k: ScaryBottles: qorkfiend: ScaryBottles: You think season 2 was spot on? Seriously are farking trolling? Eve people who never read the books think it sucked massively.

Not sure if serious.

Where do you feel season 2 deviated significantly from the book? And why do you think that people who thought that season 2 hewed pretty closely to book 2 are "farking trolling"?

Literally I could name unfortunate differences all night here. As far as what people thought go over to westeros.org or the citadel and ask people what they thought of season 2. I'm not sure how many users the citadel has but I know westeros has over two million. Go ahead ask trust me you're going to get about the same response as you will here linking to the free republic but without the even marginal attempts at moderation we get around here so yeah its not just me. Go on I'll wait.

Yes, can I PLEASE get the opinion of a bunch of fanboys, who have neither left their parent's basement in the last 15 years nor experiencedthe joys of sex.  I am sure that will solve everything.  Btw, if you can't understand why the TV show would differ quite drastically from the books you really need to grow up...

One more thing, the TV show can do cool stuff that the books just CAN'T, like the cool reveal in the series that Daenerys could speak Valyrian the whole time the slavemaster of the Unsullied was talking shiat about her.  Something like that just doesn't work in the books, where it does on TV...

Lol Wut? It was much better in the books, stop trolling

In the book, it's Dany's POV so you know she understands him. There's no mystery or "oh snap" moment.


True but tell me did that little "oh snap" moment really make the story any better? I only ask you because if I asked the other guy he would just scream about how none of us are ever getting laid ever again.
 
2014-03-11 11:02:37 PM
Obviously people have not figured out the only reason the series exist is because you allready have a popular Genre that has been consumed, and putting it on TV only is done to make gobs of advertising money
 
2014-03-11 11:04:21 PM

Baryogenesis: drew46n2: Tarl3k: ScaryBottles: qorkfiend: ScaryBottles: You think season 2 was spot on? Seriously are farking trolling? Eve people who never read the books think it sucked massively.

Not sure if serious.

Where do you feel season 2 deviated significantly from the book? And why do you think that people who thought that season 2 hewed pretty closely to book 2 are "farking trolling"?

Literally I could name unfortunate differences all night here. As far as what people thought go over to westeros.org or the citadel and ask people what they thought of season 2. I'm not sure how many users the citadel has but I know westeros has over two million. Go ahead ask trust me you're going to get about the same response as you will here linking to the free republic but without the even marginal attempts at moderation we get around here so yeah its not just me. Go on I'll wait.

Yes, can I PLEASE get the opinion of a bunch of fanboys, who have neither left their parent's basement in the last 15 years nor experiencedthe joys of sex.  I am sure that will solve everything.  Btw, if you can't understand why the TV show would differ quite drastically from the books you really need to grow up...

One more thing, the TV show can do cool stuff that the books just CAN'T, like the cool reveal in the series that Daenerys could speak Valyrian the whole time the slavemaster of the Unsullied was talking shiat about her.  Something like that just doesn't work in the books, where it does on TV...

Lol Wut? It was much better in the books, stop trolling

In the book, it's Dany's POV so you know she understands him. There's no mystery or "oh snap" moment.


Besides, you know, where she addresses the slave master in valyrian and he flips out. I mean, if you need subtitles then another person speaking in subtitles to be an oh snap moment then sure the tv series does it better.

I personally believed that it gave greater insight into her mentality and how cool she can play it when needed. If you just want a gotcha moment, then I guess you can have that. I'll take character development.
 
2014-03-11 11:04:43 PM

Mikey1969: BlackPete: Mikey1969: Really? I pay either $7 or $10 a month for HBO. That's 2 StupiduCinos from Starbuck's. Calm down, it's not 1980 anymore, HBO is pretty goddamn cheap.

That would require getting a cable subscription.  And that's not cheap.

Pfft... Basic cable can be as cheap as $20, with HBO, it's still only $30. Less than most people's Internet. TFA acts like you need a second job just to watch GOT. Sorry, they're blowing things out of proportion.


$20 for basic cable?  Where?  In the USA?

My grandfather was charging $15/month twenty years ago, and his system was in the middle of butt-fark nowhere Pennsylvania.

If you live near anything resembling a population center, basic cable is $50/month or more.
 
2014-03-11 11:04:46 PM

nubzers: ScaryBottles: Nabb1: Graffito: Nabb1: Everyone has access to season four. They are called BOOKS.

Have you seen books 4 and 5?  Each one is more huger than the previous one.  Plus the HBO series deviates from the books.

Yes, I've red them all. I particularly enjoyed watching the reactions of people who hadn't read them when they saw the red wedding last season. I had to read that chapter three times just to be sure I had really read what I just read.

Oh yeah I tried my damnedest to get my buddy Mal to skip work and watch it over at my place. I was going to post his reaction on you tube.

Do it for jeoffrey's wedding. Plus when tyrion makes his jail break. Both of those episodes are going to have just as big of a reaction as the red wedding.


I'm not sure it would have the same impact. This guy loved Robb, he said it was worse for him than even Ned's execution.
 
2014-03-11 11:08:13 PM

ScaryBottles: nubzers: ScaryBottles: Nabb1: Graffito: Nabb1: Everyone has access to season four. They are called BOOKS.

Have you seen books 4 and 5?  Each one is more huger than the previous one.  Plus the HBO series deviates from the books.

Yes, I've red them all. I particularly enjoyed watching the reactions of people who hadn't read them when they saw the red wedding last season. I had to read that chapter three times just to be sure I had really read what I just read.

Oh yeah I tried my damnedest to get my buddy Mal to skip work and watch it over at my place. I was going to post his reaction on you tube.

Do it for jeoffrey's wedding. Plus when tyrion makes his jail break. Both of those episodes are going to have just as big of a reaction as the red wedding.

I'm not sure it would have the same impact. This guy loved Robb, he said it was worse for him than even Ned's execution.


True, it won't have the same emotional reaction. But definitely a big "woah wtf". For the exact same reaction it will have to be with Jon snow at the end of adwd. I'm still wondering what the hell is going to happen with that. And to end the book with it!
 
2014-03-11 11:14:11 PM

nubzers: Teufelaffe: I've saved all my butthurt for the fact that Strong Belwas won't be in the TV series at all.

Wait really? That guy is crucial in a dance with dragons. Plus, you know, being a bamf.


Unfortunately, it would appear to be true...assuming GRRM isn't lying to us here and here.
 
2014-03-11 11:20:36 PM
Lord Varys definitely is the NSA of Westeros and Esteros.
 
2014-03-11 11:30:16 PM

Teufelaffe: nubzers: Teufelaffe: I've saved all my butthurt for the fact that Strong Belwas won't be in the TV series at all.

Wait really? That guy is crucial in a dance with dragons. Plus, you know, being a bamf.

Unfortunately, it would appear to be true...assuming GRRM isn't lying to us here and here.


Damn. I understand there is only so much you can pull from a book series that is thousands of pages, but when they already have filler episodes, there is no reason not to dive into it even further.
 
2014-03-11 11:56:28 PM
ITT: very concerned fanboys spazzing out.

I have the books to read but can't get in the right mood to read about Sers and Lords and all that. I made the mistake of reading Hick right before I planned to start GoT and just couldn't do it. Although I'd absolutely read the series retold in the voice of Luli.

Read every scrap of the book wiki, though. Love the story and characters. Just not sure I like his writing style.
 
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