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(The Raw Story)   KY children's home enacts anti-discrimination policy to allow LGBT employees in order to avoid losing government funding. KY churches decide to withhold their funding instead. Won't someone please think of the children?   (rawstory.com) divider line 276
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gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-11 11:15:10 PM

JesusJuice: Jesus is mythological, God is make believe, and your beliefs are stupid.

fark off and die, Christians.


And you expect to be taken seriously with such vitriol dripping from the snarling corners of your mouth?
Chill, and maybe take a 'lude or a xanax, dude.
 
2014-03-11 11:17:38 PM

ox45tallboy: demaL-demaL-yeH: ox45tallboy: Jesus' doctrine of love and compassion for everyone, especially those seen to be the "least" of people, was somewhat revolutionary where he taught it,

No. No, it was not. (Leviticus 19)

Um... the entire rest of Leviticus, with the whole "eye for an eye" and "stone your disobedient children to death"? The doctrine of "always forgive others" and "love your neighbor as yourself, even those neighbors from foreign lands that you've never met" doesn't exactly match up with Mosaical law.


Eye for eye referenced upthread? That's written in the language of monetary compensation for injury - silver.
Stoning disobedient children? About that. (Cf. Sanhedrin 71)

Forgive? 19:18
Love neighbor? 19:17-18
Foreigners? 19:10, 33-34 "strangers"

Remember: It's OUR Book When your interpretations are wrong, it's not your fault. Because it's not your Book. (NSFW language)
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-11 11:27:31 PM

TheNewJesus: These churches need to be re-classified as hate groups. Their tax exemption should be pulled, and all members should be put on a watch list.

You don't like living in a free nation? Get out.


0/10, too overt
 
2014-03-11 11:51:03 PM

0z79: That Guy Jeff: Meh, people can spend their money however they want to spend their money. I'm not too thrilled with a children's home being funded by religious folks anyway. They usually attach strings or least try to get people to read their incredibly violent and pornographic novelization of Hebrew history.

Now this, I can tolerate a lot better than some others.

You hate all Christians.. but at least you explain WHY you hate them.

/is Christian
//is LGBT
///Your head asplode


Being LGBT doesn't preclude someone from believing really stupid shiat. I'm also know a feminist Muslim. So people just can't bring themselves to part with what they were indoctrinated with as children, no matter how much their cult hates them.
 
2014-03-11 11:51:04 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Why would any organization fund something that it opposes? You may not like and it may suck but it's perfectly reasonable.


Because 'helping children' is more important than 'gay people having jobs'?
 
2014-03-11 11:56:35 PM
Those fundies are always looking for government handouts.
 
2014-03-12 12:43:52 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Eye for eye referenced upthread? That's written in the language of monetary compensation for injury - silver.
Stoning disobedient children? About that. (Cf. Sanhedrin 71)

Forgive? 19:18
Love neighbor? 19:17-18
Foreigners? 19:10, 33-34 "strangers"


Dude, I'm an atheist. I think all of the holy books from every religion were written by men giving the best advice they could for the people and the culture of the time. Some things are applicable today, some aren't. There's an awful lot of overlap between religions in the stuff that still works today, things like being good to your fellow man. Not so much in things like haircuts and dietary requirements and slavery and women being property and virginity being valued and human sacrifices and all that.

It really doesn't matter to me who the first to say something intelligent was, any more than it matters who the first to tame fire or use a wheel was - it's all knowledge that is now part of the human experience.
 
2014-03-12 12:46:09 AM

That Guy Jeff: Being LGBT doesn't preclude someone from believing really stupid shiat. I'm also know a feminist Muslim. So people just can't bring themselves to part with what they were indoctrinated with as children, no matter how much their cult hates them.


www.logcabin.org

static.wixstatic.com

 
2014-03-12 12:49:33 AM

ox45tallboy: That Guy Jeff: Being LGBT doesn't preclude someone from believing really stupid shiat. I'm also know a feminist Muslim. So people just can't bring themselves to part with what they were indoctrinated with as children, no matter how much their cult hates them.

[www.logcabin.org image 580x120]

[static.wixstatic.com image 500x143]


Ah, the Uncle Ruckus of the Republican Party?
 
2014-03-12 12:54:44 AM

hardinparamedic: ox45tallboy: That Guy Jeff: Being LGBT doesn't preclude someone from believing really stupid shiat. I'm also know a feminist Muslim. So people just can't bring themselves to part with what they were indoctrinated with as children, no matter how much their cult hates them.

[www.logcabin.org image 580x120]

[static.wixstatic.com image 500x143]

Ah, the Uncle Ruckus of the Republican Party?


I was going more along the lines of "Being LGBT doesn't preclude someone from believing really stupid shiat."
 
2014-03-12 01:37:25 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Remember: It's OUR Book When your interpretations are wrong, it's not your fault. Because it's not your Book. (NSFW language)


I propose a new law. We can call it HHL's Law or something, and would be phrased like this(Godwin inspired):

As any discussion of Judaism and Christianity grows longer, the probability of HHL posting the "Not your fault, not your book" bit by Lewis Black approaches 1.

/loves that bit
//not being snarky
 
2014-03-12 08:24:19 AM

Sin_City_Superhero: Old_Chief_Scott: *sigh*

The point is that by using the label "Christian" instead of the specific "The Kentucky Baptist Convention" you lump all Christians in with the perpetrators. That is the very definition of bigotry, isn't it? It's the same as when someone tosses out "Red State" or "Blue State", it's a convenient way to lump together a group of people for the purpose of marginalizing them in some way.

I wouldn't say that it's bigotry, per se. They ARE Christians. Perhaps it's misleading if it makes it seem like ALL Christians are the same way, but it's not incorrect to call them Christians, if that's what they are.


Well, there's a test for that.   When these things happen, the "we're not all like that" Christians will make their case in the media and provide alternate funding so that the people affected by the bigots don't suffer.

You see it all the time.

OK - well, not ALL the time, but most...

OK - well not "most", but there are several good examples...

OK - well I can't think of any, but the "we're not like that" Christians ASSURE me that even though they have absolutely no visibility at all, and never seem to actually confront the extreme Christians who swamp the media, our elected bodies, and well - everywhere else - they AREN'T LIKE THAT...

... they're just so incredibly stealthy about it, that NINJA are jealous of their mad chops.  So stealthy that you'll never actually see any effect of their never-ending "not being like that" drive and ambition.
 
2014-03-12 08:26:54 AM

ox45tallboy: Friction8r: scottydoesntknow: I'd really like to know how many children were removed from broken homes of homosexual parents.

I'd really like to know how many children were created by homosexual parents.

[www3.pictures.zimbio.com image 594x413]
"Oh, Marcus and I are the proud parents of 28* wonderful children.... wait, what?"

*This is actually true. They have five children of their own and had custody of 23 different foster children for at least some time


... and IIRC, aren't they ALL girls?   I've always found that a little telling...
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-12 09:17:34 AM

ursomniac: Sin_City_Superhero: Old_Chief_Scott: *sigh*

The point is that by using the label "Christian" instead of the specific "The Kentucky Baptist Convention" you lump all Christians in with the perpetrators. That is the very definition of bigotry, isn't it? It's the same as when someone tosses out "Red State" or "Blue State", it's a convenient way to lump together a group of people for the purpose of marginalizing them in some way.

I wouldn't say that it's bigotry, per se. They ARE Christians. Perhaps it's misleading if it makes it seem like ALL Christians are the same way, but it's not incorrect to call them Christians, if that's what they are.

Well, there's a test for that.   When these things happen, the "we're not all like that" Christians will make their case in the media and provide alternate funding so that the people affected by the bigots don't suffer.

You see it all the time.

OK - well, not ALL the time, but most...

OK - well not "most", but there are several good examples...

OK - well I can't think of any, but the "we're not like that" Christians ASSURE me that even though they have absolutely no visibility at all, and never seem to actually confront the extreme Christians who swamp the media, our elected bodies, and well - everywhere else - they AREN'T LIKE THAT...

... they're just so incredibly stealthy about it, that NINJA are jealous of their mad chops.  So stealthy that you'll never actually see any effect of their never-ending "not being like that" drive and ambition.


First bolded section: Yeah, about that. See, I make it a point NOT to make my charitable contributions known. And choose to donate anonymously.
So if you're following WWJD guidelines, that's how you're supposed to do it.

On the second bolded section, what s the point of me confronting assholes like the ones in TFA?
They are using the label like something to hide behind. And all that will happen is my BP will go up and my fist will itch from suppressing my desire to crotch-punch them for their lack of humanity.
 
2014-03-12 09:30:10 AM

ursomniac: Well, there's a test for that.


What if I told you

that even those ninja xians aren't christians at all...?

Sin_City_Superhero: but it's not incorrect to call them Christians, if that's what they are

I think I found the problem

it is incorrect. they aren't
 
2014-03-12 10:40:06 AM

kbronsito: I bolded the part that explains why they are such a bigoted, backwards, primitive bunch even when compared to other Christian denominations.  Hope that helps.


You do realize that "Southern Baptist" is the full and proper name of the denomination, and that the phrase does not mean "Baptists located in the southern portion of the US" in this context?

Now, if you do realize that, and I misunderstood you, I apologize.

But if you do understand that, you must also understand that Southern Baptists are the douchiest of the douchey denominations.  This is, after all, the denomination whose erstwhile President, Rev. Dr. Bailey Smith, said in recent history that "God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew".  You know, the Tribe He led out of bondage and into which His only Son was born?  Doesn't have the time of day for `em anymore.

My extended in-laws are all Southern Baptists.  Lucky me.
 
2014-03-12 11:26:58 AM

Deucednuisance: kbronsito: I bolded the part that explains why they are such a bigoted, backwards, primitive bunch even when compared to other Christian denominations.  Hope that helps.

You do realize that "Southern Baptist" is the full and proper name of the denomination, and that the phrase does not mean "Baptists located in the southern portion of the US" in this context?

Now, if you do realize that, and I misunderstood you, I apologize.

But if you do understand that, you must also understand that Southern Baptists are the douchiest of the douchey denominations.  This is, after all, the denomination whose erstwhile President, Rev. Dr. Bailey Smith, said in recent history that "God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew".  You know, the Tribe He led out of bondage and into which His only Son was born?  Doesn't have the time of day for `em anymore.

My extended in-laws are all Southern Baptists.  Lucky me.


Fun fact: Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee are Southern Baptists.
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-03-12 11:45:57 AM

grumpfuff: Deucednuisance: kbronsito: I bolded the part that explains why they are such a bigoted, backwards, primitive bunch even when compared to other Christian denominations.  Hope that helps.

You do realize that "Southern Baptist" is the full and proper name of the denomination, and that the phrase does not mean "Baptists located in the southern portion of the US" in this context?

Now, if you do realize that, and I misunderstood you, I apologize.

But if you do understand that, you must also understand that Southern Baptists are the douchiest of the douchey denominations.  This is, after all, the denomination whose erstwhile President, Rev. Dr. Bailey Smith, said in recent history that "God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew".  You know, the Tribe He led out of bondage and into which His only Son was born?  Doesn't have the time of day for `em anymore.

My extended in-laws are all Southern Baptists.  Lucky me.

Fun fact: Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee are Southern Baptists.


Explains SOME of the doucheiness.
 
2014-03-12 12:02:03 PM

Big_Fat_Liar: If an employee won't shut up about their gayness or their hetero exploits or sexuality, you should be able fire them.


And where in TFA is that mentioned since they, you know, didn't actually hire any gay people?
 
2014-03-12 01:33:15 PM

JesusJuice: Jesus is mythological, God is make believe, and your beliefs are stupid.

fark off and die, Christians.


Fun Fact:  IDW used to get censored and banned for posting this sort of stuff.

www.cristyli.com

the modmins have been given a poe's law test, let's see how they handle it...

LELZ  :D

also also wik

he was frequently give timeouts for "name calling" and "trolling"

ready for the punchline?

the "trolling" posts were direct quotes from other farkers in the thread who were magically not censored-banned

:)
 
2014-03-12 02:13:39 PM

I drunk what: Fun Fact:  IDW used to get censored and banned for posting this sort of stuff.


I guess that's what pushed you over the edge.

The new meds seem to be having a positive effect. You're still talking about yourself in the third person though ... so there is still a ways to go.

Buck up little camper.

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2014-03-12 02:24:11 PM

That Guy Jeff: 0z79: That Guy Jeff: Meh, people can spend their money however they want to spend their money. I'm not too thrilled with a children's home being funded by religious folks anyway. They usually attach strings or least try to get people to read their incredibly violent and pornographic novelization of Hebrew history.

Now this, I can tolerate a lot better than some others.

You hate all Christians.. but at least you explain WHY you hate them.

/is Christian
//is LGBT
///Your head asplode

Being LGBT doesn't preclude someone from believing really stupid shiat. I'm also know a feminist Muslim. So people just can't bring themselves to part with what they were indoctrinated with as children, no matter how much their cult hates them.


Well.. my church is actually very accepting of me; as a matter of fact, quite a few have been asking about me, wondering why I don't attend; they're actually thinking about a LGBT outreach program; not to convert them, but to welcome them and remind them of the more compassionate bits of a really great guy's message a couple thousand years ago.

All that ain't a hill of beans to your need for an acceptable target, though.. hey, we all need something to rail against.

My something is willful ignorance on both sides of the fence.
 
2014-03-12 06:22:11 PM

Big_Fat_Liar: ciberido: Big_Fat_Liar: I've been 100% pro-gay rights for as long as i can remember and thought Clinton was a douche for DOMA and DADT, but I have an issue with having an issue discriminating against "openly gay" employees.  My issues is a church should be able to discriminate against openly sexual employees whether heterosexual or openly gay.  You don't work for a church and come to work and talk about sucking cauk or eating at the Y while at work.  It's not the place for lifestyle attention whoring.

2004 called.  They say their strawman is old and tired and they want him back so he can finally have a nice rest.

Strawman?  Whatever.  I support the rights of all people.


I'm not denying that.  I'm saying the example you gave ("come to work and talk about sucking cauk or eating at the Y while at work")  is not representative of the issue.  But others explained that point already.
 
2014-03-12 09:34:39 PM

I drunk what: JesusJuice: Jesus is mythological, God is make believe, and your beliefs are stupid.

fark off and die, Christians.

Fun Fact:  IDW used to get censored and banned for posting this sort of stuff.

[www.cristyli.com image 336x500]

the modmins have been given a poe's law test, let's see how they handle it...

LELZ  :D

also also wik

he was frequently give timeouts for "name calling" and "trolling"

ready for the punchline?

the "trolling" posts were direct quotes from other farkers in the thread who were magically not censored-banned

:)


i278.photobucket.com

www.bonkersinstitute.org
 
2014-03-12 11:16:35 PM

ox45tallboy: allylloyd: Some of us belong to churches with assigned readings on Sundays--unless this particular topic has something to do with one of the readings, which are called "lessons" and the sermon is teach a lesson related to one of the readings (OT,NT, Psalm or Gospel) why would they?

Interesting. Why not? Pat Robertson and other TV evangelists don't seem to have a problem with teaching their views in light of world events. Why don't more pulpit preachers do the same?

I do some work helping my sister's church send an aid package to Guyana every few months when I'm around. Recently, they asked me to redo the computers they are sending down there, and put on a Bible app and stuff, and get a router set up that they're all ready to connect to. They're teaching the people there a brand of Christianity I don't care for (same fundamentalist Church of Christ I grew up in), but they are providing good assistance of clothes and medication (and technology) to these people.

I don't find myself to be hypocrite for donating my time and work to this cause, any more than anyone else who attends this church and participates in this mission work is a hypocrite because they have some more minor difference in dogma. Good work is good work, even if you don't agree with everything being done.


Charity with strings attached is pretty shiatty charity, and isn't really charity at all, it's more akin to bribery. I kinda find it an abhorrent practice, requiring people to convert and be taught your brand of religious in order to get aid.
 
2014-03-12 11:47:12 PM

I drunk what: JesusJuice: Jesus is mythological, God is make believe, and your beliefs are stupid.

fark off and die, Christians.

Fun Fact:  IDW used to get censored and banned for posting this sort of stuff.

[www.cristyli.com image 336x500]

the modmins have been given a poe's law test, let's see how they handle it...

LELZ  :D

also also wik

he was frequently give timeouts for "name calling" and "trolling"

ready for the punchline?

the "trolling" posts were direct quotes from other farkers in the thread who were magically not censored-banned

:)


Here you go, just for you

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