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(The Raw Story)   KY children's home enacts anti-discrimination policy to allow LGBT employees in order to avoid losing government funding. KY churches decide to withhold their funding instead. Won't someone please think of the children?   (rawstory.com) divider line 274
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2014-03-11 05:48:46 PM  

ox45tallboy: Serious Black: Do I have to specifically donate to this one organization to adequately prove that I care about disadvantaged youth?

I would think putting effort into preventing religious organizations from instilling their particular flavor of beliefs into a child as a condition for a roof over his head and food in his belly might demonstrate some care for disadvantaged youth.


True, but I was thinking more from the aspect of helping third-world kids get health care (DWB, Direct Relief), feeding indigent children from the community (Harvesters), and helping children and adults with developmental disabilities (Northwest Center), all of which I currently do. Do I not care about the disadvantaged if I continue donating to those organizations in lieu of donating to this one?
 
2014-03-11 05:48:59 PM  
I'm a bit torn, here. On the one hand, I don't care for religious organizations. But on the other hand, I want kids to suffer. Do I donate or not?
 
2014-03-11 05:56:22 PM  
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2014-03-11 05:57:02 PM  

miss diminutive: Let me guess....Baptists?

*checks article*

The Kentucky Baptist Convention, which approves of the anti-LGBT policy, is now back in the Sunrise's corner.

Sweet merciful crap, I wish I were more surprised. These people really have a hard-on for prejudice against gays, don't they?

I'll admit, I'm no expert on their specific denomination and I don't know any Southern Baptists well, but is there some kind of underlined or italicized text in the Baptist Bible that encourages so many of them to be such raging assholes?


Let me introduce myself then. I'm a Baptist, raised in Louisiana in a place so small it was referred to as a village. When I was growing up, being openly gay wasn't accepted by most people. In fact, in many places it was an open invitation to beat a gay guy up if he revealed himself.

I, on the other hand, put myself in harms way to protect gay guys and girls through high school and college and I'm still friends with many gay guys and girls to this day.

Being a Baptist doesn't make someone an asshole. Assholes are born that way.

I'll admit, there are a lot of hell and brimstone Baptists out there and there are a lot of Baptist "preachers" who'll scream the bible at you as you walk by. But I'm not one of them and not all of us are like that.

I was walking in the quad with a good female friend of mine and we walked past a screaming Baptist "preacher". I turned to her embarrassed and said, "At least you don't have to deal with Bible screamers like that representing your religion." She gave me a hard look and I said, "Oh. Well, honestly, I never thought of those people as Muslims... at least not the kind of Muslim *you* are."

You see, she was walking with me because she was scared of people who would retaliate against her for being Muslim. This was shortly after 9/11 and she had good reason to be scared of the rest of the idiots in this country.

But she felt safe to walk with a Baptist.
 
2014-03-11 05:57:28 PM  
I quick GIS shows the GLTB charities seem to only give to other self interested GLBT causes rather than the community at large.  Maybe this is an opportunity created by Baptist intolerance for the GLBTs endear themselves to the community.
 
2014-03-11 05:58:27 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Christians.  Just... Christians.  Fark.


u gaiz hey u gaiz

u gaiz u guise

...
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Christians

:D

.
.. amirite?!?

LELZ LELZ LELZ
 
2014-03-11 06:01:13 PM  

Gabrielmot: But she felt safe to walk with a Baptist.


Well of course she felt safe with you, she didn't have any beer and you weren't fishing.
 
2014-03-11 06:06:15 PM  

Serious Black: Big_Fat_Liar: I've been 100% pro-gay rights for as long as i can remember and thought Clinton was a douche for DOMA and DADT, but I have an issue with having an issue discriminating against "openly gay" employees.  My issues is a church should be able to discriminate against openly sexual employees whether heterosexual or openly gay.  You don't work for a church and come to work and talk about sucking cauk or eating at the Y while at work.  It's not the place for lifestyle attention whoring.  If an employee won't shut up about their gayness or their hetero exploits or sexuality, you should be able fire them.  If an employee doesn't shut up about their black supremacy, racial superiority, or Jew hate, you should be able to fire them too.  Nobody should be forced to employ a person they find detestable and nobody should be forced to work for somebody they despise.  It's a two-way street.  Government employment should be different.

What places of employment have you worked at where a straight man openly talked about the fantastic blowjob his wife/fiancee/girlfriend gave him last night? What places of employment have you worked at where a straight women described in vulgar terms how her husband/fiance/boyfriend ate her twat to an earth-shattering orgasm last night? Unless my experience is atypical, this shiat simply does not happen. No, what happens most of the time is people calling their spouses to let them know plans for the day, hanging up innocent pictures of the couple together in their office/cubicle, or making G-rated small talk about what you did over the weekend. That's what gay people want to be able to do. They want to be able to politely mention their significant other/spouse in company. They want to put up pictures of their loved ones. They want to openly talk about their weekends without censoring out the fact that they have a loved one that they spend time with.


You have never worked in the hospitality, transportation, manufacturing or financial sectors have you? Because there's always at least one person who is hypersexual or with a need to be seen as socially dominant (whether male or female) who brings up sexual exploits regularly. Grantee we are not talking cubeville and if you are one of the miserable denizens trapped in the hellholes of business school engendered culture then you probably haven't heard much like that-- the Minders have to keep the culture nicely sterile (one big reason I refused the business schools that tried to recruit me).

Sure most workplaces have policies against such talk... even those where the manager puts sticky notes on the backs of women saying "Buns of Steel" and on guys saying "I like boys." Or they gay guy who is in a pissy mood is asked "What's wrong, fell asleep with a dick up your ass?" and his response "it was the one in my mouth that did it."

Yes those were both real examples from different workplaces. I could tell many others. I don't think I could work in an environment that didn't have that kind of back-and-forth.
 
2014-03-11 06:07:37 PM  

Old_Chief_Scott: So, it's not bigotry when you do it. I get it.


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ROFLELZ

Christians...

:D :D :D
 
2014-03-11 06:09:16 PM  

chknjetski: TerminalEchoes: So gays boycott the Salvation Army for their anti-gay stance. Churches cut funding to children's home for accepting gays. Both circumstances involve a group of people "voting with their wallet" for what they believe in. What's the difference, honestly?

Gays, as a group, don't profess to be looking out for and loving their fellow man. It's the hypocrisy, not the dick move.


Funny, I thought the whole "loving their fellow man" was their defining feature.
 
2014-03-11 06:10:21 PM  
Hate the gays, starve the children. It's what Jesus would have done.
 
2014-03-11 06:10:23 PM  

Gabrielmot: Being a Baptist doesn't make someone an asshole. Assholes are born that way.


Thanks for the background info, and I'm happy to hear you stood up for those people.

To elaborate, I'm not saying all Baptists are assholes, just that it seems like a disproportionate number of their organizations seem to be populated by people who engage in asshole-like behaviour.
 
2014-03-11 06:10:35 PM  

Fark It: Tax the churches.


And then give the revenue to the children's home.  Everybody wins!
 
2014-03-11 06:10:57 PM  

Tyee: I quick GIS shows the GLTB charities seem to only give to other self interested GLBT causes rather than the community at large.  Maybe this is an opportunity created by Baptist intolerance for the GLBTs endear themselves to the community.


Well, as long as you've done such thorough research on the topic, who are we to argue?
 
2014-03-11 06:12:34 PM  

jpadc: Hey Farkers, how about instead of biatching about how all those bigots make decisions about when and where to donate their money, why don't you just show them how wrong they are...

https://sunriseorg.worldsecuresystems.com/donate

that's what I thought... carry on.


For what reason should I provide any support to an organization that openly and willfully discriminates against homosexuals?
 
2014-03-11 06:13:02 PM  

gerrymander: ox45tallboy: Jesus would not have behaved the way these churches have.

There's evidence that he would have: "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's; render unto God what is God's."

Exactly which owns what is what we're working out now. If "charity for abused children" is correctly to be usurped from the sacred world in favor of the secular, then the churches previously donating should find better use for their money fulfilling the mission they've chosen. The church members already pay taxes, which fulfills their obligation to the government.


Funny, seems like Caesar is saying "don't discriminate."
 
2014-03-11 06:14:42 PM  

grumpfuff: Tyee: I quick GIS shows the GLTB charities seem to only give to other self interested GLBT causes rather than the community at large.  Maybe this is an opportunity created by Baptist intolerance for the GLBTs endear themselves to the community.

Well, as long as you've done such thorough research on the topic, who are we to argue?


I did a GIS for GLTB charities. It was less fap-worthy than I had hoped.
 
2014-03-11 06:18:57 PM  

Gabrielmot: Assholes are born that way.


do they have the gay gene? liek black people?

/wow

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2014-03-11 06:21:51 PM  

grumpfuff: who are we to argue?


Seems we're in agreement, lets encourage LBGT charities to pick up the slack and help out other communities besides themselves.
 
2014-03-11 06:28:15 PM  

Mouser: Funny, I thought the whole "loving their fellow man" was their defining feature.


Only in bathroom stalls.

Out in the daylight it's all hate all the time.
 
2014-03-11 06:29:15 PM  

ox45tallboy: You don't call anything that modulates a modem just because it modulates - the name was applied specifically to devices which made the D/A conversion for use on an analog phone line.


A modem is any device that both modulates and demodulates a signal.  It is not limited to serial modems that operate on POTS lines.  A broadband modem also meets the definition.

If you compare a V.32 serial modem with a G.992.x DSL modem, you will see many of the same principles at work on the analog side.  Data is encoded into symbols, which is then passed through a D/A converter into a PSK or QAM baseband signal, which is then encoded into a carrier signal.  The basic concepts of framing, control frames/channels and error correction are all still there, too.


Gary-L: I had this very argument with a Christian friend of mine a couple of weeks ago. He feels strongly that (so-called) Christian businesses (like Hobby Lobby) have every right to require employees and customers adhere to the religious beliefs of the business owners.


He can argue that, but laws in the US and Canada generally tend to frown upon business owners projecting their personal values upon a business in such a way that it impacts their customers' and employees' ability to shop and work.  It is especially true when dealing with people of a protected class.  Business comes first.

Of course, there is a gray line between what constitutes a business and a private organization.  There are a number of church run schools, hospitals and charities that conduct commerce, but are still classified as private religious organizations.  There can be a fair amount of abuse just on the lee side of that line.  But as long as you don't cross it, you're organization's private values are free to reign.
 
2014-03-11 06:29:46 PM  

Tyee: grumpfuff: who are we to argue?

Seems we're in agreement, lets encourage LBGT charities to pick up the slack and help out other communities besides themselves.


Woot, way to misquote me and intentionally misrepresent my sarcasm!

Or do you really think a "quick GIS" is thorough research?
 
2014-03-11 06:29:55 PM  
It is hard to believe, but for most of the last millennium the church was the place of all things charity. Health care for the sick, feeding the poor, housing the homeless, etc.

There were obviously politics involved, especially with religious wars and all. But from my limited understanding, they were the social safety net. Seeing them today actively campaign against health care reform and removing support for foster homes show the church being LESS progressive than they were 500 years ago!
 
2014-03-11 06:31:11 PM  

Tyee: grumpfuff: who are we to argue?

Seems we're in agreement, lets encourage LBGT charities to pick up the slack and help out other communities besides themselves.


I think we're in agreement that everyone can do more to help children's homes, but in disagreement about your insistence on dickish insinuations.

I'm willing to match your contribution up to, let's say, $150. You in?
 
2014-03-11 06:34:20 PM  

miss diminutive: Let me guess....Baptists?

*checks article*

The Kentucky Baptist Convention, which approves of the anti-LGBT policy, is now back in the Sunrise's corner.

Sweet merciful crap, I wish I were more surprised. These people really have a hard-on for prejudice against gays, don't they?

I'll admit, I'm no expert on their specific denomination and I don't know any Southern Baptists well, but is there some kind of underlined or italicized text in the Baptist Bible that encourages so many of them to be such raging assholes?


miss diminutive: To elaborate, I'm not saying all Baptists are assholes, just that it seems like a disproportionate number of their organizations seem to be populated by people who engage in asshole-like behaviour.


they can't help it, they were born that way

they have the southern baptists gene, with big bones and gayblack bacteria in their guts (that's why they can't lose weight)

so you have every right to discriminate against them and mock their genetic born traits

*clicks profile*

Me No Likey
- the sound of my alarm clock
- people who say "same difference"
- throwing out old food that gets lost in some forgotten corner of my fridge
my student loan paid off, wooot!
- willful ignorance
- blatant hypocrisy


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~Fin
 
2014-03-11 06:34:46 PM  
Gabrielmot:

Let me introduce myself then. I'm a Baptist, raised in Louisiana ... rest of the idiots in this country.

But she felt safe to walk with a Baptist.


You sound like a great person. But you do realize that your leaders, those who determine what your faith's beliefs are, are the very people being discussed in this thread. If you don't believe what they do, then perhaps you should consider a conversion of some sort.


Like it or not, you are judged by the company you keep in life.


/my friends are all members of NAMBLA
//but I don't agree with that
///we're still cool, right?
////why are you hiding your children?
 
2014-03-11 06:38:30 PM  

Hickory-smoked: I'm willing to match your contribution up to, let's say, $150. You in?


For way more than that already, but for you I'll add another $150 to a children's charity and I'll give in the name of Hickory-smoked.  My charity of choice is a orphanage in Haiti that I've  helped since the earthquake.  Thanks for the push, They need the $150.00 more than me.!
 
2014-03-11 06:40:47 PM  

I drunk what: they can't help it, they were born that way


Religion isn't a choice?
 
2014-03-11 06:41:39 PM  

Mouser: chknjetski: TerminalEchoes: So gays boycott the Salvation Army for their anti-gay stance. Churches cut funding to children's home for accepting gays. Both circumstances involve a group of people "voting with their wallet" for what they believe in. What's the difference, honestly?

Gays, as a group, don't profess to be looking out for and loving their fellow man. It's the hypocrisy, not the dick move.

Funny, I thought the whole "loving their fellow man" was their defining feature.


Well played.

+1
 
2014-03-11 06:41:56 PM  

fusillade762: Hate the gays, starve the children. It's what Jesus would have done.


No. I'm pretty sure Jesus would've also blown-up some brown people, somewhere along the line.
 
2014-03-11 06:44:57 PM  

Tyee: Hickory-smoked: I'm willing to match your contribution up to, let's say, $150. You in?

For way more than that already, but for you I'll add another $150 to a children's charity and I'll give in the name of Hickory-smoked.  My charity of choice is a orphanage in Haiti that I've  helped since the earthquake.  Thanks for the push, They need the $150.00 more than me.!


Challenge accepted. Though I'm giving mine to Sunrise Children's Services, since they are the subject of this debate.

/And as long as we're talking Haiti, I have friends who work with the Konbit Shelter Project. Check them out sometime.
 
2014-03-11 06:49:41 PM  

ox45tallboy: the label of "Christian" just doesn't mean "follower of Christ" the way that "Buddhist" means "follower of Buddha".


never met a chinese buddhist I see
 
2014-03-11 06:51:34 PM  

ox45tallboy: miss diminutive: Are you implying that they don't read the bible...or that they collectively suffer from an inability to read bold text?

There are Bibles that put words attributed to God/YHWH in all caps, and words attributed to Jesus in red letters. I guess you could have thought I meant that.
But I mean the first thing. I've seldom met a Southern Protestant of any flavor that knew the Bible better than me, and I stopped going to church when I was 18 and became an atheist soon afterwards.
Jesus would not have behaved the way these churches have.


It's even more pathetic when a Jew knows their Book better than they do.
 
2014-03-11 06:53:16 PM  

ox45tallboy: Sin_City_Superhero: Old_Chief_Scott: No, what I mean is that you become what you abhor when you use "Christian" as your label.

I'm not following you. How do you mean that? Can you please elaborate?

I'm not sure what h means, but I think what he could mean is that the label of "Christian" just doesn't mean "follower of Christ" the way that "Buddhist" means "follower of Buddha". Most people who use the label in order to defend their actions do so to defend an action that pretty much no one who reads the teachings of Jesus and the accounts of his life could see Jesus as having taken. You just don't see Buddhists do this sort of thing.


In another thread someone suggested that instead of using the moniker "Christians" we should label folks who call themselves "Christians" either "Paulians" or "Jesusians", depending on whether the pay more attention to what Paul wrote in the Bible or what Jesus himself said.

At the risk of oversimplifying it, the misogynists and homophobes would be Paulians and the Jesusians would be a lot more feminist and gay-friendly.

Unfortunately, the Paulians would never agree to this: they'd insist, all evidence to the contrary, that they were following the actual teachings of Jesus just as much as the Jesusians and thus deserved the title. I suspect it would be rather like how young earth creationists insist what they believe is just as scientific as "evolutionism" and deserves equal coverage in the science classroom.
 
2014-03-11 06:53:58 PM  

Hickory-smoked: Tyee: Hickory-smoked: I'm willing to match your contribution up to, let's say, $150. You in?

For way more than that already, but for you I'll add another $150 to a children's charity and I'll give in the name of Hickory-smoked.  My charity of choice is a orphanage in Haiti that I've  helped since the earthquake.  Thanks for the push, They need the $150.00 more than me.!

Challenge accepted. Though I'm giving mine to Sunrise Children's Services, since they are the subject of this debate.

/And as long as we're talking Haiti, I have friends who work with the Konbit Shelter Project. Check them out sometime.


//... and I still say your insinuations were unnecessary and dickish.
 
2014-03-11 06:55:27 PM  

Hickory-smoked: I have friends who work with the Konbit Shelter Project.


I know where that is, not to far from Kenscoff and Petion-ville area where I go.  I'm helping build/moving the Orphanage up to Fort Jaques.  Right now its on leased property but we're building on newly purchased land.
 
2014-03-11 06:57:47 PM  

ox45tallboy: I don't think people read the Bible looking for Jesus's message of love and compassion anymore. In fact, I think they purposefully skip over those parts. I love my dad, but I can't believe anyone would want to subscribe to any religion that taught hate and bigotry.


True. Most evangelicals and fundamentalists confine themselves to Genesis, Leviticus, a few other of the nasties bits of the Old Testament then skip straight to Paul's letters and on to Revelation. The last thing they want to read, or think about, is that no-good hippy liberal who shows up for a bit then gets what he deserved.
 
2014-03-11 06:58:36 PM  

netizencain: Old_Chief_Scott: *sigh*

The point is that by using the label "Christian" instead of the specific "The Kentucky Baptist Convention" you lump all Christians in with the perpetrators. That is the very definition of bigotry, isn't it? It's the same as when someone tosses out "Red State" or "Blue State", it's a convenient way to lump together a group of people for the purpose of marginalizing them in some way.

The most shocking thing is the complacency from all the other Christian groups.  Everyone is upset when moderate muslims don't speak out against jihadists... this is the same thing.  One of the largest Christian organizations in Kentucky is shiatting all over the teachings of Christ.  But $5 says your pastor/priest wont discuss this in Church on Sunday.


Some of us belong to churches with assigned readings on Sundays--unless this particular topic has something to do with one of the readings, which are called "lessons" and the sermon is teach a lesson related to one of the readings (OT,NT, Psalm or Gospel) why would they?
 
2014-03-11 07:00:45 PM  

MilesTeg: Nice of the Feds to hold a Children's Home hostage.


Explain the logic underlying that conclusion.
 
2014-03-11 07:01:20 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: ox45tallboy: miss diminutive: Are you implying that they don't read the bible...or that they collectively suffer from an inability to read bold text?

There are Bibles that put words attributed to God/YHWH in all caps, and words attributed to Jesus in red letters. I guess you could have thought I meant that.
But I mean the first thing. I've seldom met a Southern Protestant of any flavor that knew the Bible better than me, and I stopped going to church when I was 18 and became an atheist soon afterwards.
Jesus would not have behaved the way these churches have.

It's even more pathetic when a Jew knows their Book better than they do.


Or an atheist.
 
2014-03-11 07:01:46 PM  

Hickory-smoked: //... and I still say your insinuations were unnecessary and dickish.


Say what you want, I don't care and I don't see them giving $ to any other causes than other GLBT causes. I've been wrong before, in 1978,... May I think.

BTW, The  $150.00 absolutely will get there from me and mine with much more.
 
2014-03-11 07:02:46 PM  

ciberido: ox45tallboy: Sin_City_Superhero: Old_Chief_Scott: No, what I mean is that you become what you abhor when you use "Christian" as your label.

I'm not following you. How do you mean that? Can you please elaborate?

I'm not sure what h means, but I think what he could mean is that the label of "Christian" just doesn't mean "follower of Christ" the way that "Buddhist" means "follower of Buddha". Most people who use the label in order to defend their actions do so to defend an action that pretty much no one who reads the teachings of Jesus and the accounts of his life could see Jesus as having taken. You just don't see Buddhists do this sort of thing.

In another thread someone suggested that instead of using the moniker "Christians" we should label folks who call themselves "Christians" either "Paulians" or "Jesusians", depending on whether the pay more attention to what Paul wrote in the Bible or what Jesus himself said.

At the risk of oversimplifying it, the misogynists and homophobes would be Paulians and the Jesusians would be a lot more feminist and gay-friendly.

Unfortunately, the Paulians would never agree to this: they'd insist, all evidence to the contrary, that they were following the actual teachings of Jesus just as much as the Jesusians and thus deserved the title. I suspect it would be rather like how young earth creationists insist what they believe is just as scientific as "evolutionism" and deserves equal coverage in the science classroom.


I stand by my term, Paulists. The "moral majority" tend to fit in there. The actual Christians, you never hear about, because they actually follow Jesus's teaching, and minding your own business and being polite to others just isn't newsworthy.
 
2014-03-11 07:03:08 PM  

chknjetski: Gabrielmot:

Let me introduce myself then. I'm a Baptist, raised in Louisiana ... rest of the idiots in this country.

But she felt safe to walk with a Baptist.

You sound like a great person. But you do realize that your leaders, those who determine what your faith's beliefs are, are the very people being discussed in this thread. If you don't believe what they do, then perhaps you should consider a conversion of some sort.


Like it or not, you are judged by the company you keep in life.


/my friends are all members of I give money to NAMBLA and attend their meetings
//but I don't agree with that
///we're still cool, right?
////why are you hiding your children?



I think this is a bit more comparable.
 
2014-03-11 07:04:02 PM  

TerminalEchoes: So gays boycott the Salvation Army for their anti-gay stance. Churches cut funding to children's home for accepting gays. Both circumstances involve a group of people "voting with their wallet" for what they believe in. What's the difference, honestly?


Apart from one group being on the side of tolerance and acceptance and the other group being against those things, very little, I suspect.
 
2014-03-11 07:05:15 PM  

Tyee: Hickory-smoked: //... and I still say your insinuations were unnecessary and dickish.

Say what you want, I don't care and I don't see them giving $ to any other causes than other GLBT causes. I've been wrong before, in 1978,... May I think.

BTW, The  $150.00 absolutely will get there from me and mine with much more.


So, you're mad because charities meant to promote equality for LGBT individuals, are using the money they get to fund LGBT causes?

I'm assuming then, that you are equally mad that some Christian charities only donate to causes they consider Christian?
 
2014-03-11 07:05:56 PM  

miss diminutive: Gabrielmot: Being a Baptist doesn't make someone an asshole. Assholes are born that way.

Thanks for the background info, and I'm happy to hear you stood up for those people.
To elaborate, I'm not saying all Baptists are assholes, just that it seems like a disproportionate number of their organizations seem to be populated by people who engage in asshole-like behaviour.


Baptists as a denomination have high poverty rates, and this is historically true. They made a vice out of virtues: No drinkin', smokin', or dancin' is a good thing if you're trying to get out of poverty, but it also gives you a free pass to feel holier than the better-heeled heathens in your area.  The Southern Baptists have become better off and are trying to legislate their dogma on the heathens, like good Christian soldiers[SIC] should.
 
2014-03-11 07:06:53 PM  
In case you didn't know, Martin Luther King, Jr was a Southern Baptist! Not all Southern Baptists are bad people. Stereotypes are dangerous things...
 
2014-03-11 07:07:30 PM  
Risk ~$23M of gov't funding for $7M of church funding. Hm.

I stand corrected. Arithmetic is hard.
 
2014-03-11 07:12:12 PM  

allylloyd: In case you didn't know, Martin Luther King, Jr was a Southern Baptist! Not all Southern Baptists are bad people. Stereotypes are dangerous things...


Not all southern Baptists are Southern Baptists.
 
2014-03-11 07:13:50 PM  

punkhippie: Katolu: Benevolent Misanthrope: Christians.  Just... Christians.  Fark.

This sums it up.

Indeed. And if decent people who call themselves Christians are upset by this kind of generalization, they can do something about it. They can say publicly and on a regular basis that asshole "christians" aren't Christians at all. Until then, they're just like the "good" cop who lets the bad cop do what he wants.



*coughs*

As a decent person who calls herself a Christian, I say publicly and on a regular basis that this kind of discrimination isn't Christian at all.

Do I win a prize or something?
 
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