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(NPR)   Carpool to work? You've cost a taxi driver their job, you subhuman monster   ( npr.org) divider line
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1369 clicks; posted to Business » on 11 Mar 2014 at 12:27 PM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-03-11 12:08:23 PM  
HOV LANES, MOTHERFARKER.

/but seriously, curse all those who make war on Uber
 
2014-03-11 12:32:48 PM  
How can I get Uber in my town?
 
2014-03-11 12:34:57 PM  
$4.70 1ST mile
$2.75 Each additional mile

I'm 12 miles from work.

The bus costs me $3.
 
2014-03-11 12:38:51 PM  
s30.postimg.org
 
2014-03-11 12:41:55 PM  
It's like some services become outdated with increases in technology or something.
 
2014-03-11 12:44:55 PM  
I just checked my Newegg and Amazon orders for year 2013, didn't purchase a single buggy whip.
 
2014-03-11 12:46:23 PM  
Bah, a half block from 2 main bus lines; 3 grocery stores (Publix, The Fresh Market, and a Trader Joes) within 3 blocks; Sam's Club 2 miles down the road; Amazon Prime for the sundries, 2 blocks to my doctor, Kids' schools with in 1/2 mile.


/$40 per month bus fare card. Includes service that will pick me up at the door
//Poor hacks.
 
2014-03-11 12:49:12 PM  
I hated Seattle taxis...when I'd come off the ferry on the way to the airport, they would mob you to the point of trying to take your suitcase to claim the fare.
 
2014-03-11 12:52:47 PM  
I don't think I've ever had a cab ride that was less than $15 pre-tip, one way. And that was for something that was normally walking distance, but in bad weather or late at night or other reasons I wouldn't just walk it. To get to work it would be a lot more. Are they really expecting people to spend half their daily salary on their commute?
 
2014-03-11 12:53:10 PM  
In the past year, taxi drivers have organized protests against the ride-share services in several U.S. cities. To draw attention to their claims, they circled City Hall in Los Angeles last summer; in Denver, more than 100 drivers recently clogged the street around the Colorado Statehouse.

Yeah, quit making it run up the meter for every single farking stoplight I sit at, and I might feel a little more sorry... Traffic jams are one thing, but watching the meter rack up a dollar at a stoplight, 50 cents at the next, 80 cents at another, and so on, is farking ridiculous. I have no sympathy for the taxi companies, when a 3 mile trip can cost me $15. Fark you.
 
2014-03-11 12:53:49 PM  
 
2014-03-11 01:00:55 PM  
Maybe this is a sign that taxi drivers need to step up their game. They can start small, like actually pulling over and picking up the people who try to wave them down.
 
2014-03-11 01:12:54 PM  
Nobody tell taxi drivers about the new wave of self-driving cars. Their heads asplode.

Or smartphone-enabled car sharing.

What I'm saying is that taxi service will be all but extinct in the next 10-20 years.
 
2014-03-11 01:14:55 PM  

Splish: I don't think I've ever had a cab ride that was less than $15 pre-tip, one way. And that was for something that was normally walking distance, but in bad weather or late at night or other reasons I wouldn't just walk it. To get to work it would be a lot more. Are they really expecting people to spend half their daily salary on their commute?


Subby is trolling.

Uber and Lyft claim they merely help set up 'rideshares' when really they are much more like taxi companies, or at the very least private limousine companies. They tend to be cheaper than taxi's, turn up very quickly when called and the cars are typically nicer than your average cab and the entire fare is done through your smartphone so you don't even need cash on you to get a ride. Understandably a lot of people who aren't in the taxi business like them.

The Taxi companies do have some fair points - Uber and Lyft are only able to operate a lot more cheaply because they're unregulated and the drivers aren't (IIRC) required to have commercial insurance or commercial drivers licenses.

That said - a lot of taxi regulations are there at the behest of the taxi companies who figure high barriers to entry help limit the number of people driving caps and restricts supply in a way that also pushes cab drivers towards working for a cab company (who take a nice cut of the drivers fares) rather than being able to work as individual drivers.
 
2014-03-11 01:23:07 PM  
The full council had been scheduled to vote on a limit of 150 drivers per ride-share company today; the vote, which has sparked intense interest in the city, has been postponed until next Monday.

Independent contractors, then.
 
2014-03-11 01:25:18 PM  

Target Builder: The Taxi companies do have some fair points - Uber and Lyft are only able to operate a lot more cheaply because they're unregulated and the drivers aren't (IIRC) required to have commercial insurance or commercial drivers licenses.


The internet is no place for nuanced analysis. Cabbies suck, Snowden rules.
 
2014-03-11 01:42:41 PM  

You've cost a taxi driver their job


You mean "his job", subliteratemitter.

And he is not happy.

library.creativecow.net

(He looks happy, but he's not.)
 
2014-03-11 01:48:17 PM  
Is Uber really any cheaper than a cab?  If not, what is the point?
 
2014-03-11 02:00:32 PM  
Is this the time for something something THE FREE MARKET?
 
2014-03-11 02:04:07 PM  

karmaceutical: Is Uber really any cheaper than a cab?  If not, what is the point?


It may vary by location but I typically find them much cheaper - maybe two thirds of the cost of a cab.

In my experience they also turn up very quickly when called, while a cab companies would normally tell me it'll be a 20 minute wait and then the cab turns up another 10 minutes after that, Uber will typically have a driver at my location in 5-10 minutes tops and you even get a little GPS map on your phone showing you your drivers progress to your location and can call them while they're on the way.
 
2014-03-11 02:10:09 PM  

Fubini: Nobody tell taxi drivers about the new wave of self-driving cars. Their heads asplode.

Or smartphone-enabled car sharing.

What I'm saying is that taxi service will be all but extinct in the next 10-20 years.


Go ahead, tell that joke at the bar.  The drunks will love it
 
2014-03-11 02:15:09 PM  

lokis_mentor: Bah, a half block from 2 main bus lines; 3 grocery stores (Publix, The Fresh Market, and a Trader Joes) within 3 blocks; Sam's Club 2 miles down the road; Amazon Prime for the sundries, 2 blocks to my doctor, Kids' schools with in 1/2 mile.


/$40 per month bus fare card. Includes service that will pick me up at the door
//Poor hacks.


I read your post and was thinking 'What the fark has this got to do with McDonalds?' Then I realized I was browsing the wrong thread. Sorry bro.
 
2014-03-11 02:27:01 PM  

Target Builder: In my experience they also turn up very quickly when called, while a cab companies would normally tell me it'll be a 20 minute wait and then the cab turns up another 10 minutes after that, Uber will typically have a driver at my location in 5-10 minutes tops and you even get a little GPS map on your phone showing you your drivers progress to your location and can call them while they're on the way.


Its basic customer service.  Last year I had to spend every other week in San Francisco.  I would take a cab from the airport to downtown and half the time the cabby would biatch about having to take a credit card (like they are required to do).  Now when I show up I just call an Uber when I land.  No fuss.  Doesn't cost much more.  And I don't have to deal with an asshole.  And uber drivers actually like driving for uber.

/I had to take a cab the other week in SF and the guy used Square to take my credit card which automatically e-mails me a receipt - looks like the smarter cab drivers are getting a fark'n clue
 
2014-03-11 02:32:07 PM  
Free market LOL
 
2014-03-11 02:49:39 PM  
All hail our neo-Jitney overlords.
 
2014-03-11 02:52:21 PM  
For shame FARK


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2014-03-11 02:58:07 PM  

Target Builder: In my experience they also turn up very quickly when called, while a cab companies would normally tell me it'll be a 20 minute wait and then the cab turns up another 10 minutes after that, Uber will typically have a driver at my location in 5-10 minutes tops and you even get a little GPS map on your phone showing you your drivers progress to your location and can call them while they're on the way.



I've had cab dispatchers tell me that I'd have to walk to another location because the one I'm at isn't convenient (hence why I'm CALLING for a cab).  Not the news one wants to hear during a torrential downpour.
 
2014-03-11 02:58:15 PM  
Love Uber.  Love it.

I'm not one to take taxis all that often, but considering that there's sadly limited transit options going east/west here in Chicago, it has to happen, especially late at night when waiting 25 minutes for a bus that takes an hour to get me back east just isn't an option.

Being able to call a cab from inside a noisy bar and see exactly when it's approaching my street is fantastic in a way that makes me think that the old cab companies can go ahead and die off just for not implementing this for themselves years ago.
 
2014-03-11 03:22:58 PM  
mimg.ugo.com

Johnny Cab FTW...
 
2014-03-11 03:32:02 PM  

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Exactly. fark taxi drivers, and fark that whole cartel of an industry. Hope you're all out of a job soon from ride sharing.
 
2014-03-11 03:39:38 PM  
Glad to see Seattle embracing the free market.
 
2014-03-11 03:41:51 PM  

the opposite of charity is justice: I just checked my Newegg and Amazon orders for year 2013, didn't purchase a single buggy whip.


Of course not. You support local whip makers.
 
2014-03-11 05:01:07 PM  
I don't suppose TFA could, y'know, tell us what these companies do? How are they different then licensed cabs? Does their person drive the car to you, and then you drive that car? What does he/she do then. ride with you or wait for somebody to pick them up?
 
2014-03-11 05:09:38 PM  
So all the Taxi drivers have to go back to Pakistan/Iran?

I dont seem to have a problem with this...
 
2014-03-11 05:27:18 PM  

lokis_mentor: Bah, a half block from 2 main bus lines; 3 grocery stores (Publix, The Fresh Market, and a Trader Joes) within 3 blocks; Sam's Club 2 miles down the road; Amazon Prime for the sundries, 2 blocks to my doctor, Kids' schools with in 1/2 mile.


/$40 per month bus fare card. Includes service that will pick me up at the door
//Poor hacks.


And how far is the IKEA?
 
2014-03-11 05:30:41 PM  
Don't know what TFA is about but anything that puts the cab drivers out of business is OK in my book.  The ones around here are awful drivers and awful people.
 
2014-03-11 06:03:29 PM  
I don't take cabs often but it would be nice to get into one and not feel like I need a tetanus shot by the time the ride is done. Having the cab actually show up would be nice too.
 
2014-03-11 06:26:12 PM  
Eh, there has been "casual carpool" in the SF bay area for decades. It used to be free for the riders. You just show up at a designated place where people line up for rides (usually near a train station or similar transit location). Drivers stop and pick up riders, and off everyone goes to SF.

A few years ago when they started charging $2.50 to cross the Bay Bridge in carpool lanes, there was a lot of disagreement over whether riders should start offering a dollar to the driver. Now it depends on where you line up. Some places the dollar is almost mandatory. Some places the drivers seldom accept them.

Also, there aren't enough taxis in SF. Maybe if they brought more in people could flag one down in the middle of the financial district in under five minutes.
 
2014-03-11 06:29:34 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Maybe this is a sign that taxi drivers need to step up their game. They can start small, like actually pulling over and picking up the people who try to wave them down.


If we could just get them to turn on their damned "For Hire" lights when they don't have a fare in the car, that would be a huge victory. One of the few things I liked about Singapore was the reliable use of those lights.
 
2014-03-11 06:52:41 PM  
Fark cab drivers. I hope everyone of them ends up out of work and homeless.

/smelly third world roaches.
 
2014-03-11 06:58:50 PM  

LemSkroob: Fark cab drivers. I hope everyone of them ends up out of work and homeless.

/smelly third world roaches.


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2014-03-11 07:08:53 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: I don't suppose TFA could, y'know, tell us what these companies do? How are they different then licensed cabs? Does their person drive the car to you, and then you drive that car? What does he/she do then. ride with you or wait for somebody to pick them up?


You know when you call a cab company and ask them to come pick you up either ASAP or at some pre-booked time and they send out a cab? That's exactly what Uber does, but with drivers who don't have to follow licensed cab regulations (vehicle inspections, insurance) but with much better customer service and nicer cars.

Uber's claim is that they merely help connect drivers going about their business with folks who need a lift somewhere not too far out of the drivers way, like ride-share systems where you pick up a commuter buddy to get into a HOV lane on the way to work and they might help you with paying for gas gas.
 
2014-03-11 07:15:09 PM  

Target Builder: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: I don't suppose TFA could, y'know, tell us what these companies do? How are they different then licensed cabs? Does their person drive the car to you, and then you drive that car? What does he/she do then. ride with you or wait for somebody to pick them up?

You know when you call a cab company and ask them to come pick you up either ASAP or at some pre-booked time and they send out a cab? That's exactly what Uber does, but with drivers who don't have to follow licensed cab regulations (vehicle inspections, insurance) but with much better customer service and nicer cars.

Uber's claim is that they merely help connect drivers going about their business with folks who need a lift somewhere not too far out of the drivers way, like ride-share systems where you pick up a commuter buddy to get into a HOV lane on the way to work and they might help you with paying for gas gas.


So if an Uber driver picks me up, is he a paid employee of Uber (or an independent contractor working with them) or is he a private citizen who happens to be headed in the right direction?

If I'm using Uber, will I get pings to go pick people up or something?
 
2014-03-11 07:25:25 PM  

Dafatone: If I'm using Uber, will I get pings to go pick people up or something?


They've done a nice favor for you.  They're just calling it in.  Are you going to be unfriendly by not honoring this sacred contract?  Sal here will explain it to you further.
 
2014-03-11 07:25:45 PM  
Dafatone:

So if an Uber driver picks me up, is he a paid employee of Uber (or an independent contractor working with them) or is he a private citizen who happens to be headed in the right direction?

If I'm using Uber, will I get pings to go pick people up or something?


I'm not exactly sure what the contractual relationship between the drivers and Uber is. They are not employees but I don't think they're contractors either as that would make it harder for Uber to pretend it isn't a limousine service.

If you use uber to get a lift you will not get requests to give people lifts. You have to go through some sort if application process to be a driver.
 
2014-03-11 07:29:47 PM  

the opposite of charity is justice: I just checked my Newegg and Amazon orders for year 2013, didn't purchase a single buggy whip.


But $27.83 of your federal income tax payment went to the Buggy Whip Makers and Dependents Long Term Unemployment Fund.
 
2014-03-11 09:01:52 PM  
If you pay for it, it's a taxi not a ride share, and they should have to follow the same rules as other taxi services.
 
2014-03-11 09:48:39 PM  
Government should not be banning competition in a free market place.
 
2014-03-11 10:05:07 PM  
It's all fun'n'games until one of your drivers kills a pedestrian.
See also: Uber Surge Pricing.
 
2014-03-11 10:11:18 PM  
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