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(Washington Post)   Dianne Feinstein outraged that the CIA subjected the Senate Intelligence Committee to the same sort of clandestine eavesdropping that the regular ol' rabble have to endure   (washingtonpost.com ) divider line
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2014-03-11 01:30:36 PM  
5 votes:

Sin_City_Superhero: dittybopper: And she said that the CIA appears to have violated the Fourth Amendment, which bars unreasonable searches and seizures, as well as various federal laws and a presidential executive order that prevents the agency from conducting domestic searches and surveillance.

Cry me a river, biatch.

The US Government violating a US citizens Constitutional rights is OK with you? Really? How 'bout if it's YOUR civil rights, next?


Feinstein WANTS it to be your civil rights, just not hers. She's one of the big proponents of this kind of thing. She is scum, so when it happens to her I will take some time to point and laugh before pointing out why this is a good reason to oppose everything she stands for.
2014-03-11 01:34:29 PM  
4 votes:
Gotta love hypocrites like this old biatch.
First she uses her influence to obtain a CCW and then makes it a part of her personal agenda to deny that same right to the 'little people'.
Then she votes for establishing the NSA and for ever increasing domestic spying and then she biatches when that same spying then targets the ruling elite.

I can't wait to dance on this old bag's grave.
2014-03-11 01:34:16 PM  
4 votes:

Sin_City_Superhero: dittybopper: And she said that the CIA appears to have violated the Fourth Amendment, which bars unreasonable searches and seizures, as well as various federal laws and a presidential executive order that prevents the agency from conducting domestic searches and surveillance.

Cry me a river, biatch.

The US Government violating a US citizens Constitutional rights is OK with you? Really? How 'bout if it's YOUR civil rights, next?


She was perfectly fine with the US government violating the constitutional rights of US citizens:

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/politicsnow/la-pn-feinstein-n sa -foreign-policy-20140219,0,7661713.story#axzz2vg01YtBq

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/10/20/nsa-call-records-pr og ram-sen-dianne-feinstein-editorials-debates/3112715/

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/01/20/1410221/senator-dianne-feinst ei n-nsa-metadata-program-here-to-stay

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/21/dianne-feinstein-defend s- nsa-data-collection
2014-03-11 12:42:02 PM  
4 votes:
And she said that the CIA appears to have violated the Fourth Amendment, which bars unreasonable searches and seizures, as well as various federal laws and a presidential executive order that prevents the agency from conducting domestic searches and surveillance.

Cry me a river, biatch.
2014-03-11 12:39:43 PM  
4 votes:
what's good for the goose is good for the hypocritical old bag.
2014-03-11 10:51:33 AM  
4 votes:
Karma is a biatch.
2014-03-11 02:17:59 PM  
3 votes:

dittybopper: She was perfectly fine with the US government violating the constitutional rights of US citizens:


Seconded. That's Dianne "I'm angry because I'm the chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and this shouldn't happen to me" Feinstein. She gives no farks about citizen rights and never has. She is pissed because she wasn't exempt.
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-03-11 12:25:43 PM  
3 votes:

SphericalTime: vpb: It seems like there would be separation of powers issues since CIA is executive.

??? Oversight is often provided by congress.  I don't get what you mean.


By Congress of CIA, not the other way around.
2014-03-11 03:26:15 PM  
2 votes:

Persnickety: OgreMagi: zepher: Gotta love hypocrites like this old biatch.
First she uses her influence to obtain a CCW and then makes it a part of her personal agenda to deny that same right to the 'little people'.
Then she votes for establishing the NSA and for ever increasing domestic spying and then she biatches when that same spying then targets the ruling elite.

I can't wait to dance on this old bag's grave.

A nice tidbit on the CCW of hers.  At one time, there were exactly two CCWs in the entire city of San Francisco.  They belonged to Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer - two of the loudest anti-gunners in all of Congress.

Side note.  I won't celebrate their deaths.  I just won't give a shiat.

Aaaaaannndd now we see what all the DiFi hate is really about.  Took longer than I expected.


People tend to hate hypocrites regardless of their affiliation.
2014-03-11 03:25:41 PM  
2 votes:

Persnickety: OgreMagi: zepher: Gotta love hypocrites like this old biatch.
First she uses her influence to obtain a CCW and then makes it a part of her personal agenda to deny that same right to the 'little people'.
Then she votes for establishing the NSA and for ever increasing domestic spying and then she biatches when that same spying then targets the ruling elite.

I can't wait to dance on this old bag's grave.

A nice tidbit on the CCW of hers.  At one time, there were exactly two CCWs in the entire city of San Francisco.  They belonged to Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer - two of the loudest anti-gunners in all of Congress.

Side note.  I won't celebrate their deaths.  I just won't give a shiat.

Aaaaaannndd now we see what all the DiFi hate is really about.  Took longer than I expected.


Her tireless, hypocritical crusade against the Bill of Rights?
2014-03-11 03:24:33 PM  
2 votes:

Persnickety: OgreMagi: zepher: Gotta love hypocrites like this old biatch.
First she uses her influence to obtain a CCW and then makes it a part of her personal agenda to deny that same right to the 'little people'.
Then she votes for establishing the NSA and for ever increasing domestic spying and then she biatches when that same spying then targets the ruling elite.

I can't wait to dance on this old bag's grave.

A nice tidbit on the CCW of hers.  At one time, there were exactly two CCWs in the entire city of San Francisco.  They belonged to Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer - two of the loudest anti-gunners in all of Congress.

Side note.  I won't celebrate their deaths.  I just won't give a shiat.

Aaaaaannndd now we see what all the DiFi hate is really about.  Took longer than I expected.


That she's a hypocrite of legendary proportions?  I thought that was self-evident.
2014-03-11 03:12:22 PM  
2 votes:

MyRandomName: Wait... you think democrats aren't in general in bed with corporations?


But but but they have a D by their names! They're there to fight for the little guy like you and me!
2014-03-11 03:09:28 PM  
2 votes:

The Southern Dandy: As a California voter who generally votes straight ticket...

FARK DIANNE FEINSTEIN!

She is the complete opposite of me.  I side with the Dems on almost everything except gun control. She sides with the Republicans on everything except gun control. She's the living embodiment of cronie capitalism and gun grabber.

I wouldn't vote for her if you held a gun to my head, which if she had her way, you could do easily because I wouldn't be allowed to have one.


Wait... you think democrats aren't in general in bed with corporations? Have you not been watching the last few years?
2014-03-11 03:02:01 PM  
2 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Wingchild: dittybopper: She was perfectly fine with the US government violating the constitutional rights of US citizens:

Seconded. That's Dianne "I'm angry because I'm the chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and this shouldn't happen to me" Feinstein. She gives no farks about citizen rights and never has. She is pissed because she wasn't exempt.

You understand that this has nothing to do with her personally being spied on, right?

You are correct; Senator Feinstein is not so self-centered as to believe herself the only individual in the country who should be exempt from spying operations.

She believes that anyone in the privileged position of the United States Congress should be immune to surveillance.

I'm not so sure she said that. I mean, this isn't metadata. The allegation is they were actively farking with an investigation. You're ok with this because OMG Feinstein?

You are confusing a recognition of Senator Feinstein's hypocrisy with approval.

I'm ok with whatever gets her on board. Maybe this will prompt her to reconsider past decisions.


This. I'm no fan of DiFi at all, but it's not just her that's making the allegations. Sen Mark Udall is no surveillance apologist and he's been pretty instrumental in trying to get this report out to the public.

A better article with ta link he full text of her comments.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/11/feinstein-accuses-cia-i nt imidation-torture-report
2014-03-11 03:00:22 PM  
2 votes:

RINO: SnakeLee: dj_spanmaster: Well, look at all those knee-jerk "DON'T YOU JUST LOVE BEING SURVEILLED AT HOME, FEINSTEIN!" commenters. I'm really hoping you're all just parodying idiots, but frankly it's hard to tell.

I know, some of them are even quoting the article.  Are they on the side then of the CIA and think they should be able to use enhanced interrogation techniques and then delete files off of Senators' computers when they start an investigation on it?  There are a whole lot of people in this thread that need to stop breathing out of their mouths for a minute, put the Monster energy down and actually read what this is about.

Not that I want to defend ever-creeping surveillance, but they didn't snoop through the senators' computers (at least not in this case). They were CIA computers held at a CIA site administered by CIA techs. Are we seriously going to say that the CIA should be denied access to their own property? I'm not saying the motive behind removing/changing the data isn't wrong, but that doesn't make DiFi right.


I looked at this the same way you do until i read the transcripts of Feinstein's comments:

Per an exchange of letters in 2009, then-Vice Chairman Bond, then-Director Panetta, and I agreed in an exchange of letters that the CIA was to provide a "stand-alone computer system" with a "network drive" "segregated from CIA networks" for the committee that would only be accessed by information technology personnel at the CIA-who would "not be permitted to" "share information from the system with other [CIA] personnel, except as otherwise authorized by the committee."

So it's not like they just went down to Langley and logged in to any old computer. They wanted to do it off-site, and only agreed to do it on-site after the CIA took steps to ensure that they wouldn't do what they eventually did.

If Feinstein's account is accurate, and the order to access the system and erase information didn't come from the President, then some heads need to roll at the CIA.
2014-03-11 02:59:11 PM  
2 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Wingchild: dittybopper: She was perfectly fine with the US government violating the constitutional rights of US citizens:

Seconded. That's Dianne "I'm angry because I'm the chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and this shouldn't happen to me" Feinstein. She gives no farks about citizen rights and never has. She is pissed because she wasn't exempt.

You understand that this has nothing to do with her personally being spied on, right?

You are correct; Senator Feinstein is not so self-centered as to believe herself the only individual in the country who should be exempt from spying operations.

She believes that anyone in the privileged position of the United States Congress should be immune to surveillance.

I'm not so sure she said that. I mean, this isn't metadata. The allegation is they were actively farking with an investigation. You're ok with this because OMG Feinstein?

You are confusing a recognition of Senator Feinstein's hypocrisy with approval.

I'm ok with whatever gets her on board. Maybe this will prompt her to reconsider past decisions.


Senator Feinstein has established a history of opposing civil liberties, while simultaneously enjoying those liberties herself. Your defense of her is not likely to entice her to engage in sexual intercourse with you.
2014-03-11 02:37:51 PM  
2 votes:

Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Wingchild: dittybopper: She was perfectly fine with the US government violating the constitutional rights of US citizens:

Seconded. That's Dianne "I'm angry because I'm the chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and this shouldn't happen to me" Feinstein. She gives no farks about citizen rights and never has. She is pissed because she wasn't exempt.

You understand that this has nothing to do with her personally being spied on, right?

You are correct; Senator Feinstein is not so self-centered as to believe herself the only individual in the country who should be exempt from spying operations.

She believes that anyone in the privileged position of the United States Congress should be immune to surveillance.


I'm not so sure she said that. I mean, this isn't metadata. The allegation is they were actively farking with an investigation. You're ok with this because OMG Feinstein?
2014-03-11 02:20:13 PM  
2 votes:

Wingchild: dittybopper: She was perfectly fine with the US government violating the constitutional rights of US citizens:

Seconded. That's Dianne "I'm angry because I'm the chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and this shouldn't happen to me" Feinstein. She gives no farks about citizen rights and never has. She is pissed because she wasn't exempt.


You understand that this has nothing to do with her personally being spied on, right?
2014-03-11 01:58:22 PM  
2 votes:

media.salon.com


Dianne Feinstein on questionable NSA spying/ information collection techniques against regular US citizens:  "It's called protecting America."

Dianne Feinstein on questionable CIA spying/ information collection techniques against US Congressional Representatives/ Senate Intelligence Committee:  "I am not taking it lightly." And was noted as having mentioned, "...the CIA appears to have violated the Fourth Amendment, which bars unreasonable searches and seizures, as well as various federal laws and a presidential executive order that prevents the agency from conducting domestic searches and surveillance."

When it happens to you- GFY.  Why?  'MURICA, that's why.

When it happens to them- ZOMGZ LAWZ BROKUN!  WHAARRR MUH ANSWERS?!?!?!?!
2014-03-11 01:47:11 PM  
2 votes:

dittybopper: Karma Curmudgeon: I'm as opposed as anyone to the domestic surveillance regime.  But if true, the attempt to control by the branch of government responsible for ensuring the Agency is following the law by intimidation is many, many times more dangerous.

It's quaint that you think the two are unrelated.


Of course they're related, I didn't say they weren't.  The entire intelligence community is has been emboldened to disregard the Constitution.  However, the domestic surveillance program threatens certain civil liberties. An executive branch agency attempting to threaten a different co-equal branch threatens the very system of government that maintains all liberties.  They are at different orders of magnitude.
2014-03-11 01:39:43 PM  
2 votes:
What a two-face! She's against guns, unless she owns them. She is for government intrusion, unless the target is her.

/ congress critter for life
2014-03-11 01:37:55 PM  
2 votes:

YixilTesiphon: Sin_City_Superhero: dittybopper: And she said that the CIA appears to have violated the Fourth Amendment, which bars unreasonable searches and seizures, as well as various federal laws and a presidential executive order that prevents the agency from conducting domestic searches and surveillance.

Cry me a river, biatch.

The US Government violating a US citizens Constitutional rights is OK with you? Really? How 'bout if it's YOUR civil rights, next?

Feinstein WANTS it to be your civil rights, just not hers. She's one of the big proponents of this kind of thing. She is scum, so when it happens to her I will take some time to point and laugh before pointing out why this is a good reason to oppose everything she stands for.


I'm as opposed as anyone to the domestic surveillance regime.  But if true, the attempt to control by the branch of government responsible for ensuring the Agency is following the law by intimidation is many, many times more dangerous.
2014-03-11 01:36:49 PM  
2 votes:
An intelligence committee that fears intelligence?  Historically not awesome.
2014-03-11 01:35:48 PM  
2 votes:

dittybopper: And she said that the CIA appears to have violated the Fourth Amendment, which bars unreasonable searches and seizures, as well as various federal laws and a presidential executive order that prevents the agency from conducting domestic searches and surveillance.

Cry me a river, biatch.


Yeah, she's cool with violating our 2nd Amendment  just as long as she can keep her CCW permit.
2014-03-11 01:30:57 PM  
2 votes:
But Dianne, I thought that the intelligence community could do no wrong? Or was the surveillance you loved to tout not as fun to back up when the all seeing eye is aimed at yourself?

DiFi can DIAF
2014-03-11 01:30:41 PM  
2 votes:
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
2014-03-11 01:30:17 PM  
2 votes:

youmightberight: So is she planning on doing something or just running her dentures again?


She's going to draft a bill to ban assault rifles.
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-03-11 11:31:35 AM  
2 votes:
It seems like there would be separation of powers issues since CIA is executive.
2014-03-12 06:59:18 AM  
1 vote:

OgreMagi: Unfortunately, the majority of Californians obviously never pay attention to the shiat she does.


Here's your problem:

The Southern Dandy: As a California voter who generally votes straight ticket...

2014-03-12 03:21:35 AM  
1 vote:

Novart: Godamnit California, stop voting this stupid biatch into office


I try my best every time she's up for re-election.  Unfortunately, the majority of Californians obviously never pay attention to the shiat she does.
2014-03-12 01:46:10 AM  
1 vote:

Persnickety: OgreMagi: zepher: Gotta love hypocrites like this old biatch.
First she uses her influence to obtain a CCW and then makes it a part of her personal agenda to deny that same right to the 'little people'.
Then she votes for establishing the NSA and for ever increasing domestic spying and then she biatches when that same spying then targets the ruling elite.

I can't wait to dance on this old bag's grave.

A nice tidbit on the CCW of hers.  At one time, there were exactly two CCWs in the entire city of San Francisco.  They belonged to Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer - two of the loudest anti-gunners in all of Congress.

Side note.  I won't celebrate their deaths.  I just won't give a shiat.

Aaaaaannndd now we see what all the DiFi hate is really about.  Took longer than I expected.


It's about a whole lot more than is relevant for this thread.
She's funneled more money into her husband's and friend's companies than just about anyone to ever sit in Congress.
2014-03-11 10:39:58 PM  
1 vote:
Godamnit California, stop voting this stupid biatch into office
2014-03-11 10:19:42 PM  
1 vote:

hasty ambush: [irregulartimes.com image 500x509]


He did all that.  The wiretaps are legal now.  Nobody has to bother with the national security letters to spy on someone.  And they're not tracking protesters specifically anymore, since they're covered by the whole "spying on everyone, everywhere, all the time" that goes on now.
2014-03-11 07:04:13 PM  
1 vote:
You really need to familiarize yourself with the timeline of what all went on in this case first.

The TL;DR version is that one of the top officials involved with the CIA's torture program is going after the members of the Congressional Committee charged with overseeing the CIA and did not like them investigating his illegal actions.

what seemed to really set [Senator Feinstein] off was the CIA's counter-charge, made through acting CIA general counsel Robert Eatinger, that her staff had illegally accessed and removed the document.

"Our staff involved in this matter have the appropriate clearances, handled this sensitive material according to established procedures and practice to protect classified information, and were provided access to the Panetta Review by the CIA itself," she said.

"As a result, there is no legitimate reason to allege to the Justice Department that Senate staff may have committed a crime. I view the acting counsel general's referral as a potential effort to intimidate this staff, and I am not taking this lightly."

She added: "I should note that for most if not all of the CIA's detention and interrogation program, the now-acting general counsel was a lawyer in the CIA's counterterrorism center, the unit within which the CIA managed and carried out this program. From mid-2004 until the official termination of the detention and interrogation program in January 2009, he was the unit's chief lawyer. He is mentioned by name more than 1,600 times in our study.

"And now, this individual is sending a crimes report to the Department of Justice on the actions of Congressional staff - the same Congressional staff who researched and drafted a report that details how CIA officers, including the acting general counsel himself, provided inaccurate information to the Department of Justice about the program
."
2014-03-11 05:34:13 PM  
1 vote:

Persnickety: I just couldn't help notice that it was the usual "gun crowd" here who felt the need to bring up the unrelated subject and start blasting away at one of their most hated targets.


We posted that as an example that she has been a consistent hypocrite throughout her entire career.  She is the worst type of nanny-statist.  We are mere subjects to her.
2014-03-11 05:28:24 PM  
1 vote:

Persnickety: I just couldn't help notice that it was the usual "gun crowd" here who felt the need to bring up the unrelated subject and start blasting away at one of their most hated target


Just an observation you may want to consider.  It's the "usual gun crowd" who seem to be ardent defenders of all the Bill of Rights in total while others seem to be a lot more wishy washy about some others.

Just saying
2014-03-11 05:05:18 PM  
1 vote:
So, this thread is just a bunch of farktards equating CIA surveillance of individuals with CIA surveillance of a Senator, when it's actually about the CIA surveilling Congressional committee documents and has nothing to do with CIA surveillance of any Senator's private/personal information?

Time to trim the commenter herd again.
2014-03-11 05:04:53 PM  
1 vote:
This revelation actually makes me like the CIA a little bit more.

I can't think of a group of people who deserves to have their privacy violated more than the 535 assholes in Congress. They're probably even dumber in their private conversations than in their public statements. If the CIA were to produce a "best of" collection of Congressional communications, I'd buy it.
2014-03-11 04:42:39 PM  
1 vote:

pissnmoan: To be fair, many members of Congress deserve eavesdropping attention far more than the average Joe.  A bunch of Congress members have relationships with organizations that support domestic terrorism in the USA.  Like making gun purchases legal and easy for insane people so they can shoot up schools and kill unarmed people throughout the nation.  Or organizations which support bombing abortion clinics and assassinating physicians who perform abortion.

I'd guess members of Congress who support domestic terror groups run a much higher percentage than the population at large.


What about officials with ties to groups that bombed the U.S. Capitol, the Pentagon, police stations, and public buildings?
2014-03-11 04:30:38 PM  
1 vote:
The chickens have come home to roost.  Serves her right.  She gets orgasmic when dealing with the CIA and other spy agencies and this is the result.  Same as the other members of the Intelligence Committees who prostrate themselves to the spymasters.  maybe now they'll be a little more skeptical but I doubt it.
2014-03-11 04:30:13 PM  
1 vote:

AngryDragon: Persnickety: YixilTesiphon: Persnickety: OgreMagi: zepher: Gotta love hypocrites like this old biatch.
First she uses her influence to obtain a CCW and then makes it a part of her personal agenda to deny that same right to the 'little people'.
Then she votes for establishing the NSA and for ever increasing domestic spying and then she biatches when that same spying then targets the ruling elite.

I can't wait to dance on this old bag's grave.

A nice tidbit on the CCW of hers.  At one time, there were exactly two CCWs in the entire city of San Francisco.  They belonged to Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer - two of the loudest anti-gunners in all of Congress.

Side note.  I won't celebrate their deaths.  I just won't give a shiat.

Aaaaaannndd now we see what all the DiFi hate is really about.  Took longer than I expected.

Her tireless, hypocritical crusade against the Bill of Rights?

All of them?  Or just one in particular?  This may come as a shock to you, but a large number of us don't really consider gun totin' to be much of a civil right these days.  Certainly not enough to get all hot and bothered about.  And no, I don't buy the slippery slope arguments that all rights are somehow in grave jeopardy because we now have stricter rules and regulations than we did when the US was a sparsely populated agrarian society and guns were inaccurate single shot muskets that took 20 seconds to reload.  Or to put it another way: I'm just as worried about 2nd Amendment rights as I am about 3rd Amendment rights.

Now, Guantanamo Bay and the violations of habeous corpus, plus gov't abuse of the 4th Amendment and attempts to establish religious teachings in our schools - those are more concerning.  And frankly, for all their supposed wisdom, our Founding Fathers missed one of the biggest power groups or else severely underestimated its importance: wealth.  The concentration of wealth allows the few with direct access to politicians and control of the media and as such acts as ...


Um, no.  I'm not defending her lackadaisical 4th Amendment stances, but frankly there aren't many in Congress who stand up for the 4th Amendment unless it happens to dovetail with their party's current partisan narrative.  Today's attackers will be tomorrow's defenders if the chief executive changes to an R.  Warrentless wiretaps and FISA anyone?

I just couldn't help notice that it was the usual "gun crowd" here who felt the need to bring up the unrelated subject and start blasting away at one of their most hated targets.
2014-03-11 03:56:42 PM  
1 vote:
I'm glad she's finally realized that the US government is a monster that needs better oversight, and less authority.
2014-03-11 03:36:00 PM  
1 vote:
Power being abused under the Obama administration?  this is shocking behavior.
2014-03-11 03:24:36 PM  
1 vote:

kindms: HotWingConspiracy: kindms: HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Wingchild: dittybopper: She was perfectly fine with the US government violating the constitutional rights of US citizens:

Seconded. That's Dianne "I'm angry because I'm the chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and this shouldn't happen to me" Feinstein. She gives no farks about citizen rights and never has. She is pissed because she wasn't exempt.

You understand that this has nothing to do with her personally being spied on, right?

You are correct; Senator Feinstein is not so self-centered as to believe herself the only individual in the country who should be exempt from spying operations.

She believes that anyone in the privileged position of the United States Congress should be immune to surveillance.

I'm not so sure she said that. I mean, this isn't metadata. The allegation is they were actively farking with an investigation. You're ok with this because OMG Feinstein?

Actually considering the computers were the CIAs I am not so sure what DiFi is being pissy about. She is mad that they search computers that belong to the CIA. So the CIA searched CIA property on loan to DiFi and her committee. So it isn't OMG they broke in to our computers !!!!!. It is they searched computers for illegal documents that belonged to them.

No, just no. And I'm not sure you understand how an investigation works. It doesn't at any point involve the people being investigated remotely blocking access to documents pertinent to the investigation.

the argument as I understand it is that the document was never supposed to be transferred to them in the first place so the CIA went to see if they transferred it by mistake. If that was the case and they were acting to "secure" data that wasn't supposed to have been given to the committee. I don't see what the problem is ?

How is it any different than trying to "secure" flash drives that Greenwalds husband was traveling with ? After all this docu ...


Man, for someone that appears to dislike CIA/NSA spying, you're pretty eager to parrot their press release.
2014-03-11 03:19:30 PM  
1 vote:

zepher: Gotta love hypocrites like this old biatch.
First she uses her influence to obtain a CCW and then makes it a part of her personal agenda to deny that same right to the 'little people'.
Then she votes for establishing the NSA and for ever increasing domestic spying and then she biatches when that same spying then targets the ruling elite.

I can't wait to dance on this old bag's grave.


A nice tidbit on the CCW of hers.  At one time, there were exactly two CCWs in the entire city of San Francisco.  They belonged to Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer - two of the loudest anti-gunners in all of Congress.

Side note.  I won't celebrate their deaths.  I just won't give a shiat.
2014-03-11 03:14:16 PM  
1 vote:

kindms: HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Wingchild: dittybopper: She was perfectly fine with the US government violating the constitutional rights of US citizens:

Seconded. That's Dianne "I'm angry because I'm the chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and this shouldn't happen to me" Feinstein. She gives no farks about citizen rights and never has. She is pissed because she wasn't exempt.

You understand that this has nothing to do with her personally being spied on, right?

You are correct; Senator Feinstein is not so self-centered as to believe herself the only individual in the country who should be exempt from spying operations.

She believes that anyone in the privileged position of the United States Congress should be immune to surveillance.

I'm not so sure she said that. I mean, this isn't metadata. The allegation is they were actively farking with an investigation. You're ok with this because OMG Feinstein?

Actually considering the computers were the CIAs I am not so sure what DiFi is being pissy about. She is mad that they search computers that belong to the CIA. So the CIA searched CIA property on loan to DiFi and her committee. So it isn't OMG they broke in to our computers !!!!!. It is they searched computers for illegal documents that belonged to them. And notice that DiFi isn't all upset. She is upset she didn't get an apology. So 1) she helped create this lawlessness and has no issue when directed at the US and enriching her family 2) she isn't even upset that they did it. She just wanted them to say sorry.

This falls right in to their wheel house. CIA says the congress people should not have had access to document X. These are the same folks Difi and others who tell government workers that they should avoid wikileaks and other sites as they do not have clearance to view such things. How is this any different than the US government tapping journalists phones to determine the leak of classified material ? There is the big q ...


The committee disputes the claim that unauthorized material was accessed. They accuse the CIA of deleting information from their supposedly "closed network" after they were initially granted access to it.
2014-03-11 03:12:44 PM  
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kindms: HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Wingchild: dittybopper: She was perfectly fine with the US government violating the constitutional rights of US citizens:

Seconded. That's Dianne "I'm angry because I'm the chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and this shouldn't happen to me" Feinstein. She gives no farks about citizen rights and never has. She is pissed because she wasn't exempt.

You understand that this has nothing to do with her personally being spied on, right?

You are correct; Senator Feinstein is not so self-centered as to believe herself the only individual in the country who should be exempt from spying operations.

She believes that anyone in the privileged position of the United States Congress should be immune to surveillance.

I'm not so sure she said that. I mean, this isn't metadata. The allegation is they were actively farking with an investigation. You're ok with this because OMG Feinstein?

Actually considering the computers were the CIAs I am not so sure what DiFi is being pissy about. She is mad that they search computers that belong to the CIA. So the CIA searched CIA property on loan to DiFi and her committee. So it isn't OMG they broke in to our computers !!!!!. It is they searched computers for illegal documents that belonged to them.


No, just no. And I'm not sure you understand how an investigation works. It doesn't at any point involve the people being investigated remotely blocking access to documents pertinent to the investigation.
2014-03-11 02:50:27 PM  
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HotWingConspiracy: I'm ok with whatever gets her on board. Maybe this will prompt her to reconsider past decisions


That cute that you think a fanatic is capable of reconsidering their position.
2014-03-11 02:43:33 PM  
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Wingchild: dittybopper: She was perfectly fine with the US government violating the constitutional rights of US citizens:

Seconded. That's Dianne "I'm angry because I'm the chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and this shouldn't happen to me" Feinstein. She gives no farks about citizen rights and never has. She is pissed because she wasn't exempt.


You noticed she didn't complain about her home.

She complained that they targeted the Senate committee that oversees the cia.
2014-03-11 02:41:27 PM  
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HotWingConspiracy: Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Wingchild: dittybopper: She was perfectly fine with the US government violating the constitutional rights of US citizens:

Seconded. That's Dianne "I'm angry because I'm the chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and this shouldn't happen to me" Feinstein. She gives no farks about citizen rights and never has. She is pissed because she wasn't exempt.

You understand that this has nothing to do with her personally being spied on, right?

You are correct; Senator Feinstein is not so self-centered as to believe herself the only individual in the country who should be exempt from spying operations.

She believes that anyone in the privileged position of the United States Congress should be immune to surveillance.

I'm not so sure she said that. I mean, this isn't metadata. The allegation is they were actively farking with an investigation. You're ok with this because OMG Feinstein?


You are confusing a recognition of Senator Feinstein's hypocrisy with approval.
2014-03-11 02:33:33 PM  
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HotWingConspiracy: Wingchild: dittybopper: She was perfectly fine with the US government violating the constitutional rights of US citizens:

Seconded. That's Dianne "I'm angry because I'm the chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and this shouldn't happen to me" Feinstein. She gives no farks about citizen rights and never has. She is pissed because she wasn't exempt.

You understand that this has nothing to do with her personally being spied on, right?


You are correct; Senator Feinstein is not so self-centered as to believe herself the only individual in the country who should be exempt from spying operations.

She believes that anyone in the privileged position of the United States Congress should be immune to surveillance. Being spied upon is for dirty peasants, not for prominent politicians.
2014-03-11 02:09:16 PM  
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Dancin_In_Anson: EdNortonsTwin: Next-time use a sample ballot as a dart board, close your eyes, let loose the darts and let fate decide.

Same difference as voting straight ticket.


Throwing a dart takes a modicum of preparation before entering the booth (dart and sample ballot) and then a minimal amount of cognitive effort (remembering where the darts landed). It also displays, albeit minimally, initiative. Therefore, it is light years better than straight ticket voting.
2014-03-11 02:07:08 PM  
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SnakeLee: dj_spanmaster: Well, look at all those knee-jerk "DON'T YOU JUST LOVE BEING SURVEILLED AT HOME, FEINSTEIN!" commenters. I'm really hoping you're all just parodying idiots, but frankly it's hard to tell.

I know, some of them are even quoting the article.  Are they on the side then of the CIA and think they should be able to use enhanced interrogation techniques and then delete files off of Senators' computers when they start an investigation on it?  There are a whole lot of people in this thread that need to stop breathing out of their mouths for a minute, put the Monster energy down and actually read what this is about.


Yeah, they seem to think this is hitting Feinstein personally when the reality is an out of control arm of the executive just potentially got busted spying on another branch of government in an effort to cover up crimes.
2014-03-11 02:03:15 PM  
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dj_spanmaster: Well, look at all those knee-jerk "DON'T YOU JUST LOVE BEING SURVEILLED AT HOME, FEINSTEIN!" commenters. I'm really hoping you're all just parodying idiots, but frankly it's hard to tell.


I know, some of them are even quoting the article.  Are they on the side then of the CIA and think they should be able to use enhanced interrogation techniques and then delete files off of Senators' computers when they start an investigation on it?  There are a whole lot of people in this thread that need to stop breathing out of their mouths for a minute, put the Monster energy down and actually read what this is about.
2014-03-11 01:40:15 PM  
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Who watches the Watchmen?
2014-03-11 01:39:51 PM  
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Karma Curmudgeon: I'm as opposed as anyone to the domestic surveillance regime.  But if true, the attempt to control by the branch of government responsible for ensuring the Agency is following the law by intimidation is many, many times more dangerous.


It's quaint that you think the two are unrelated.
2014-03-11 01:37:21 PM  
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YixilTesiphon: Sin_City_Superhero: dittybopper: And she said that the CIA appears to have violated the Fourth Amendment, which bars unreasonable searches and seizures, as well as various federal laws and a presidential executive order that prevents the agency from conducting domestic searches and surveillance.

Cry me a river, biatch.

The US Government violating a US citizens Constitutional rights is OK with you? Really? How 'bout if it's YOUR civil rights, next?

Feinstein WANTS it to be your civil rights, just not hers. She's one of the big proponents of this kind of thing. She is scum, so when it happens to her I will take some time to point and laugh before pointing out why this is a good reason to oppose everything she stands for.


Wait until she finds out they bugged the star chamber.
2014-03-11 01:36:09 PM  
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As a California voter who generally votes straight ticket...

FARK DIANNE FEINSTEIN!

She is the complete opposite of me.  I side with the Dems on almost everything except gun control. She sides with the Republicans on everything except gun control. She's the living embodiment of cronie capitalism and gun grabber.

I wouldn't vote for her if you held a gun to my head, which if she had her way, you could do easily because I wouldn't be allowed to have one.
Oak
2014-03-11 01:35:12 PM  
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Is it Kumbaya time?  Can red and blue and everyone else unite on the proposition: "Dianne Feinstein should be fed to a pack of hungry dogs?"  Or are we going to split into dogs vs. pigs factions?  We have an opportunity here, Americans!
2014-03-11 01:32:37 PM  
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This is all Snowden's fault because he didn't stick around to get railroaded into life at the Fed PMITA prison. Oh and he's an attention whoring deuche, I can tell by just looking at him and his slutty girlfriend.

/just wanted to get that out of the way
2014-03-11 01:31:04 PM  
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Has anyone but the C.I.A. asked if the Senate Committee illegally obtained that draft memo? It seems to me the C.I.A. aren't the only ones stealing classified info here.

It only serves to make the story that much funnier while Feinstein complains about it publicly.
2014-03-11 01:28:38 PM  
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dittybopper: And she said that the CIA appears to have violated the Fourth Amendment, which bars unreasonable searches and seizures, as well as various federal laws and a presidential executive order that prevents the agency from conducting domestic searches and surveillance.

Cry me a river, biatch.


The US Government violating a US citizens Constitutional rights is OK with you? Really? How 'bout if it's YOUR civil rights, next?
2014-03-11 01:27:55 PM  
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So is she planning on doing something or just running her dentures again?
2014-03-11 01:09:57 PM  
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Let us eat cake... 'cos I like cake!
2014-03-11 11:45:34 AM  
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Warrantless mass surveillance and eavesdropping is for the little people!
2014-03-11 11:34:16 AM  
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Nabb1: If this gets green lit, will the FARKers who derped it up last time bother to read the article on this go around?


"Read the article"? WTF? Are you new here?
 
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