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(Daily Mail)   Apparently missing Malaysian Airways passengers' smartphones are still ringing - and I can't get a f*cking AT&T signal right here in America   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line
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2014-03-11 09:27:25 AM  
if true, would that indicate that they were not underwater?
 
2014-03-11 09:35:47 AM  
That when you call you hear a ringing means nothing.  The ringing you hear is not generated by the cell phone you're attempting to call.
 
2014-03-11 09:45:01 AM  
underwaterbananaphone?
 
2014-03-11 09:53:40 AM  

nekom: That when you call you hear a ringing means nothing.  The ringing you hear is not generated by the cell phone you're attempting to call.


I'm often reminded about how little most folks understand about how technology works.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-03-11 10:00:20 AM  
When I was a kid we had an old fashioned electromechanical switch for local calls. I believe the ring sound heard on the caller's phone was real, meaning it came from the same source as the ring sound on the recipient's phone.
 
2014-03-11 10:09:40 AM  

nekom: That when you call you hear a ringing means nothing.  The ringing you hear is not generated by the cell phone you're attempting to call.


Well of course not. But if a phone is off or destroyed wouldn't calls go straight to voicemail?
 
2014-03-11 10:10:49 AM  
Meanwhile, I can't be out of money because I still have some checks left.
 
2014-03-11 10:12:27 AM  

gilgigamesh: nekom: That when you call you hear a ringing means nothing.  The ringing you hear is not generated by the cell phone you're attempting to call.

Well of course not. But if a phone is off or destroyed wouldn't calls go straight to voicemail?


The cellular network takes the call, and first it needs to find the handset in question.  Which is when you hear the ringing.
 
2014-03-11 10:16:42 AM  
So the plane probably crashed into a cellular tower?
 
2014-03-11 10:18:16 AM  

oldfarthenry: So the plane probably crashed into a cellular tower?


Yes, but what was a cell tower doing at 30,000 feet over the straits of Malacca?  That's the real mystery.
 
2014-03-11 10:29:07 AM  
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THERE IS NO PHONE RINGING, DAMMIT!
 
2014-03-11 10:31:06 AM  
Seems like if the phones were actually receiving the signals that whole search operation would be a lot easier. More likely the owners had set up call forwarding or some such.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2014-03-11 10:41:22 AM  

nekom: That when you call you hear a ringing means nothing.  The ringing you hear is not generated by the cell phone you're attempting to call.


They mention that, but it's way down in the article where most people won't read it.
 
2014-03-11 10:59:34 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: oldfarthenry: So the plane probably crashed into a cellular tower?

Yes, but what was a cell tower doing at 30,000 feet over the straits of Malacca?  That's the real mystery.


Standing there, minding it's own business.
 
2014-03-11 11:39:06 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: gilgigamesh: nekom: That when you call you hear a ringing means nothing.  The ringing you hear is not generated by the cell phone you're attempting to call.

Well of course not. But if a phone is off or destroyed wouldn't calls go straight to voicemail?

The cellular network takes the call, and first it needs to find the handset in question.  Which is when you hear the ringing.


Oh. Duh. Yeah, that makes sense. I blame lack of coffee.
 
2014-03-11 11:39:07 AM  
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2014-03-11 12:19:02 PM  
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PARADOX!  TIME QUAKE IMMINENT!
 
2014-03-11 12:53:51 PM  
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2014-03-11 01:01:16 PM  
Remember that urban legend about how if you'd call a certain number you'd hear static and the very faint voice of a little girl crying for help?
 
2014-03-11 01:05:17 PM  
Turn your effing phones off when they close the effing door, people. Geez.
 
2014-03-11 01:06:30 PM  
The missing passenger's phone call is coming from INSIDE YOUR HOUSE.
 
2014-03-11 01:09:42 PM  
I LOL'd
 
2014-03-11 01:12:54 PM  

ZAZ: When I was a kid we had an old fashioned electromechanical switch for local calls. I believe the ring sound heard on the caller's phone was real, meaning it came from the same source as the ring sound on the recipient's phone.


Nope, still wasn't. The sound is called the "ringback tone" and is artificially created just like "busy", "reorder" and a few others. Back in the day, there was an actual box for each tone, and the switch would connect to the appropriate box to deliver the appropriate signaling tone.
 
2014-03-11 01:16:04 PM  
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2014-03-11 01:20:14 PM  
the box after the article is great:

For example, the Nokia 100 boasts a standby battery life of a staggering 35 days. Smartphone batteries can also last longer if the handset isn't being used, and especially if the phone is in Flight Mode.

and then:

A number of family members have asked the network operators why they can't use the phone's signal to locate the missing people.

Professor William Webb, a Fellow of the Royal Academy of Engineering, told MailOnline: 'The phones definitely won't be working. They'll be underwater, out of coverage and by this time out of battery.


but:

Some reports claim the phones are just ringing and ringing though. How is this possible?

Telecoms expert Alan Spencer told MailOnline that if the phones are really ringing, they can categorically not be under the sea.

He added that the phones will only be ringing if they are 'switched on, not in water, the battery is charged, and [they are] near a mobile cell site.'


so ... they can be triangulated, then?
 
2014-03-11 01:24:32 PM  
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2014-03-11 01:42:21 PM  
jj abrams advertising is gettng more viral...
 
2014-03-11 01:43:21 PM  
blatz514:

Asshole.
 
2014-03-11 01:43:50 PM  
SlothB77: "so ... they can be triangulated, then?"

If the story is true, and not rumors from panicked, grief-stricken people who had been given no actual information about their loved ones for a few days.

But, as with the "but they're still logged into QQ!" claims -- and as with the claims of having seen wreckage -- no-one has been able to confirm any of it.
 
2014-03-11 01:44:08 PM  

Rev. Skarekroe: Remember that urban legend about how if you'd call a certain number you'd hear static and the very faint voice of a little girl crying for help?


God I remember that girl's voice, it was scary. It belonged to the little girl who killed herself on the set of Three Men and a Baby.
 
2014-03-11 01:44:11 PM  
The most likely explanation is that some of the people on the plane forgot their phones in an office, in their apartment, or whatever. This really doesn't mean anything.
 
2014-03-11 01:44:19 PM  
maybe the coast guard should try "find my iphone"?
 
2014-03-11 01:44:41 PM  
i posit that they were the exact ones god chose to rapture and he took the plane too just because.
 
2014-03-11 01:45:50 PM  
So, this will cause a new set of truthers to be born.

//The gubermit daid it
 
2014-03-11 01:46:26 PM  
Assuming these phones aren't at the bottom of the ocean, or lying on the floor of a jungle somewhere, how would the batteries still be charged 3-4 days after they were last plugged in?
 
2014-03-11 01:47:14 PM  

aseras: maybe the coast guard should try "find my iphone"?


I was going to say that. I't can't hurt right?
 
2014-03-11 01:47:30 PM  
most likely is that some government agency has hijacked those phone numbers to trace the calls in case of terrorist links.

Its not the phones that are ringing... its a government agency listening post.
 
2014-03-11 01:48:14 PM  

CleanAndPure: most likely is that some government agency has hijacked those phone numbers to trace the calls in case of terrorist links.

Its not the phones that are ringing... its a government agency listening post.


Correct.
 
2014-03-11 01:48:40 PM  
<threadjack>

Most Americans would be pretty shocked if they knew how much better the data coverage all over "developing" SE Asia is compared to say, the center of Berkeley, CA.

I was getting full bars of 3G data connection near a tiny Laotian village 17km outside of Vientiane...in 2010.

If I walk outside of the range of my wifi router near a major intersection in Berkeley, I get ZERO voice/data on Sprint, and barely a bar on Verizon.

</threadjack>
 
2014-03-11 01:48:54 PM  

Bomb Head Mohammed: i posit that they were the exact ones god chose to rapture and he took the plane too just because.


Maybe they're just the first? Are we sure that the Rapture was supposed to happen all at once?

QUICK, SOMEONE LOCATE KIRK CAMERON!
 
2014-03-11 01:49:08 PM  

nekom: That when you call you hear a ringing means nothing.  The ringing you hear is not generated by the cell phone you're attempting to call.


Every time I call my wife and her phone is dead, it goes straight to voicemail.

Maybe it depends on carrier.
 
2014-03-11 01:49:19 PM  
My fave remark is the guy who found it "eerie" that his dead bro;s social acct status is "active".

Technology:  let me 'splain how it farking works!
 
2014-03-11 01:49:22 PM  
This might be the theory here...

filmcrithulk.files.wordpress.com

"We have to go back!"
 
2014-03-11 01:50:55 PM  

AcademGreen: So, this will cause a new set of truthers to be born.

//The gubermit daid it


It's not even "the government did it" truthers but the "it wasn't a 767 but a military drone with missiles under the wings" type of truthers. AKA the based on total nonsense type of conspiracy theory.

If they want to claim the plane was hijacked and secretely flown to a deserted island... fine... it's crazy but I suppose it's plausible. But claiming that a ringing cell phone proves that the phone is still in contact with a cell tower is just ridiculous. Have they never called someone with their phone off before and had it ring a few times before going to voice mail? If it was that simple I'm pretty sure we'd know where they are by now.
 
2014-03-11 01:51:55 PM  
One of the passengers just phoned me, but I hung up because long distance charges.
 
2014-03-11 01:52:19 PM  

Turbo Cojones: My fave remark is the guy who found it "eerie" that his dead bro;s social acct status is "active".

Technology:  let me 'splain how it farking works!


My wife hasn't been on Facebook for three days but it still shows her as logged in! How can that be?
 
2014-03-11 01:52:47 PM  
Tired of the AT&T rhetoric. Mostly by people who probably never used them. I've gone from Sprint, T-Mobile, to Cingular -> AT&T and they've been the best reception-wise. Try not living in the ass-end of nowhere, you might have better reception.
 
2014-03-11 01:53:11 PM  
Has anyone said Langoliers, yet?
 
2014-03-11 01:53:20 PM  

vpb: nekom: That when you call you hear a ringing means nothing.  The ringing you hear is not generated by the cell phone you're attempting to call.

They mention that, but it's way down in the article where most people won't read it.


That has to be the most informative and least bullpoo filled article from DailyFail in quite some time.
 
2014-03-11 01:53:31 PM  

Funk Brothers: This might be the theory here...

[filmcrithulk.files.wordpress.com image 412x232]

"We have to go back!"


In that case, I hope for their sanity that one of the Americans wasn't Maggie Grace.
 
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