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(Salon)   Enjoy your shrimp, you despicable slave-owning, Southern plantation master   ( salon.com) divider line
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2014-03-11 09:52:13 AM  
9 votes:
Things made with slave labor (this is not an exhaustive list):

Coffee
Chocolate
Clothing
Cell phones
Computers
Diamonds and Gold
Sugar
Cotton (go figure, the poster product of slavery)
Pretty much anything made in China
Shrimp

Here's a harsh reality. Slavery runs the world. If you make over 35k, you are the 1%. If you make over 70k you are the 0.1%. In fact, according to the U.N. nearly half the world's population, 2.8 billion people, earn less than $2 a day and according to the World Bank, 95% of those living in the developing world earn less than $10 a day.

So yeah. Most of the people in our world are basically slaves. That doesn't mean we shouldn't work to improve our conditions or theirs, but merely to acknowledge the fact that forced slavery and wage slavery is probably roughly the equivalent when you're talking half the world earning less than 2 bucks a day.
2014-03-11 10:54:31 AM  
3 votes:
This is where my skrimps come from:
blog.nature.org
2014-03-11 10:45:17 AM  
3 votes:
That article was likely typed on a computer made by slaves.
2014-03-11 10:39:27 AM  
3 votes:
If I did not do the purchasing of these they would not have the food. They should send to me the thanking of you card.
2014-03-11 10:04:41 AM  
3 votes:

bdub77: Here's a harsh reality. Slavery runs the world. If you make over 35k, you are the 1%. If you make over 70k you are the 0.1%. In fact, according to the U.N. nearly half the world's population, 2.8 billion people, earn less than $2 a day and according to the World Bank, 95% of those living in the developing world earn less than $10 a day.


Yup. I try to be conscious of this in the things I use the most of - coffee, clothing, food- but the reality is that even in this country most of the agricultural work is done by illegal immigrants. And while they aren't slaves, they make very little money and have no protection or recourse from abuse. Let's call them "serfs".

You buy anything from Walmart? Slave made. You buy anything that was grown, picked, or processed in the South West? Serf made.

Unless every single thing you consume is made by hand- or by someone who's workers you personally know- you're contributing to slavery. Eventually, you have to learn to live with that.

/don't buy diamonds though- even lab created. No one needs diamonds.
2014-03-11 11:58:06 AM  
2 votes:

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: 5. Consumers don't seem to care

Dear Salon writer:   Inconvenient truth: consumers can't research every. single. item. they purchase in order to see where it comes from.


Is there anything that Salon  doesn't find racist/oppressive?
2014-03-11 11:13:54 AM  
2 votes:

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Almost all of the victims are smuggled from destitute villages in Myanmar...

It will always be Burma to me.


It was Imperial first
The Brits had it next
They gained independence
but now it's a wreck
Bur-Myanmar
2014-03-11 11:00:38 AM  
2 votes:

ajgeek: Slavery; because without it, Capitalism would never work.


As opposed to communism?  C'mon, think these things through a little more.
2014-03-11 10:56:57 AM  
2 votes:
Slavery; because without it, Capitalism would never work.
2014-03-11 10:55:31 AM  
2 votes:

what_now: bdub77: Here's a harsh reality. Slavery runs the world. If you make over 35k, you are the 1%. If you make over 70k you are the 0.1%. In fact, according to the U.N. nearly half the world's population, 2.8 billion people, earn less than $2 a day and according to the World Bank, 95% of those living in the developing world earn less than $10 a day.

Yup. I try to be conscious of this in the things I use the most of - coffee, clothing, food- but the reality is that even in this country most of the agricultural work is done by illegal immigrants. And while they aren't slaves, they make very little money and have no protection or recourse from abuse. Let's call them "serfs".

You buy anything from Walmart? Slave made. You buy anything that was grown, picked, or processed in the South West? Serf made.

Unless every single thing you consume is made by hand- or by someone who's workers you personally know- you're contributing to slavery. Eventually, you have to learn to live with that.

/don't buy diamonds though- even lab created. No one needs diamonds.


THIS and other things like THIS.
Everyone lives in a country that was won by conquest.
And before a first nation chimes in, want to BET that your tribe conquered the tribe that was living there before you and we just dont have a record of it?

Should I care that white people stole america from non-white people? meh
Should I care that there were slaves in the past history of every nation? meh
Should I care injustice happens? meh

I wish we could fix all these problems. I will think twice about thai shrimp from now on, that's for sure.
But can I check everything? NOPE

I guess I could kill myself.

/grandparents were immigrants, so america isnt my fault.
/IF you are going to argue fruits of stolen property by going back to year X, I can argue we should go back 2X years and see who you stole the property from. It is only fair.
2014-03-11 10:45:12 AM  
2 votes:
I'll bet you thought this was just another Simpson's gag.

OTTO
Ho! Thank the good dude I'm saved. And we can go back for the kids too.

Two fisherman converse in an East-Asian language.

FISHERMAN 1
(subtitle) Do we need another slave laborer in the cannery?

FISHERMAN 2
(subtitle) You can never have too many slave laborers.


    -- Simpsons 'Das Bus' -- Episode 5F11 Season 9 -- Air Date February 15, 1998
2014-03-11 10:37:36 AM  
2 votes:
I've been told by top men that slavery isn't all that bad and that a lot of slave owners treat their slaves like family, so don't worry about it.
2014-03-11 09:52:56 AM  
2 votes:
I only buy shrimp from the Gulf Coast, so.. not quite slaves.
2014-03-11 09:28:08 AM  
2 votes:
I buy only locally caught Gulf shrimp.
2014-03-11 05:12:48 PM  
1 vote:

azmoviez: They used to have a kick ass shrimp farm in the desert, just 40 miles south.  I could get a cheap 10 lb bag, frozen, at my doorstep with zero shipping.  Lousy foreign shrimp ruined the profit margin and now it's an algae farm.

I refuse to pay what other vendors want to charge for substandard shrimp; I've pretty much gone without for years.  Most of it tastes like pure chlorine anymore anyways.


Slave labor and cheap international shipping rumps local.
Pain in the ass.

If only we were LESS interested in "FREE MARKET" and more interested in fair market.
Oh well.  Wont change until we kill off a few more of the free market GOP.
2014-03-11 01:04:45 PM  
1 vote:

Meesterjojo: Oh Lord, more of this.

As stated yesterday- this is hardly new. What is surprising is that there are some fresh caught shrimp in SE Asia.

This is only a surprise for the uneducated, or those with Social Science, IT, Humanities degrees.

We don't want to face certain ugly truths because they would be very inconvenient. Normies (most of you), don't want to take the medicine required to remedy this. So we publish old, outdated, known information in order to spread the word- it's the First World thing to do. If we can educate others, then we've done our part! Woooo!

Try shopping all First World, with products manufactured with parts grown/produced in the same First World country. It's harder than you'd imagine, and you'd never be online to read this.

So rather than poo-poo slavery, let's face facts: The author was only able to Spread the Word(tm) by the use of slave labor. The author is probably clothed by slave labor, and fed by slave labor as well.

We love, we adore slavery. If we didn't, what would we do to change things other than hope/pray some "one" in a position of power will take the steps necessary?


Awww, STFU. While I get your minor point that Americans are apathetic, your primary point that you're better than everyone else is noted and it's corny. if you have information that others dont then educate without spending the majority of the time pontificating about how good you are for knowing something.
2014-03-11 12:36:22 PM  
1 vote:

kaseyfarksdaladies: offmymeds: kaseyfarksdaladies: I'm conflicted.  The Bible is against shellfish but pro slavery.  What to do, what to do.

/I'll ponder it while having gay sex

Ummm...I think the ban on shellfish is for people of the Jewish faith.

IT'S IN LEVITICUS, HEATHEN!


Old Testament laws don't apply to Christians, except for the Ten Commandments.  The whole point of Christianity is that Jesus broke the old Jewish covenants to establish a new one.
2014-03-11 12:24:13 PM  
1 vote:

snocone: R.A.Danny: Nabb1: stonelotus: raise your hand if you've ever peed in the ocean.  now raise your hand if you've ever peed on a cow.

fark your nasty seafood.

Do cows not shiat and piss in the very pastures they roam and eat grass?

Absolutely every bit of non-solar energy that we consume has been shiat in one form or another in the past. There are no plants without shiat. There is no food without shiat. Shiat is the most important thing we produce.

Shiat run Bartertown!


This planet runs like Bartertown.
2014-03-11 11:58:06 AM  
1 vote:
i512.photobucket.com
2014-03-11 11:37:32 AM  
1 vote:
www.bricoleurbanism.org
2014-03-11 11:34:12 AM  
1 vote:

stonelotus: raise your hand if you've ever peed in the ocean.  now raise your hand if you've ever peed on a cow.

fark your nasty seafood.


i.imgur.com
2014-03-11 11:11:09 AM  
1 vote:

Evil Mackerel: hitlersbrain: If I could make one change to human DNA it would be to make downtrodden people instinctively band together and destroy the people oppressing them. The tolerance and even admiration (republicans) we have for cruel and oppressive power is one of our worst traits.

I'll bite.

So you want to force people to resist being forced?


I think he forgot about every revolution ever, but that may be the oppressive republican in me, it's much better to centralize all industry and power in the government of course
2014-03-11 11:11:06 AM  
1 vote:

hitlersbrain: If I could make one change to human DNA it would be to make downtrodden people instinctively band together and destroy the people oppressing them.


Chances are, you'd qualify to be one of the people that the downtrodden would destroy.
2014-03-11 11:09:58 AM  
1 vote:

hitlersbrain: FLMountainMan: ajgeek: Slavery; because without it, Capitalism would never work.

As opposed to communism?  C'mon, think these things through a little more.

You don't really know what Communism is... do you? (Hint: None of the following countries were ever Communist: Soviet Union, China, N. Korea).


I met a Scotsman who was communist once.  True story.
2014-03-11 11:08:35 AM  
1 vote:
Thailand is not the South as subby implies

/racist
2014-03-11 11:07:35 AM  
1 vote:
Almost all of the victims are smuggled from destitute villages in Myanmar...

It will always be Burma to me.
2014-03-11 11:07:28 AM  
1 vote:

Nabb1: there's no reason to eat imported shrimp.


The entire imported seafood thing bugs me, I only buy stuff caught in North America, I just don't food safety laws and proper shipping techniques of countries 5000+ miles away.
2014-03-11 11:07:28 AM  
1 vote:

what_now: Well of course. $2 a day is apparently enough to buy a family a goat, according to commercials that I see. But that doesn't mean that there aren't people living in slavery or near slavery conditions who produce the goods and products that I consume.


If you really want to believe that, that's fine. Whatever makes you happy.

I'm sure some of the items I buy arn't union made so there for it was made by oppressed people. Remember most "slaves" you're talking about have other options. Not very good ones I'll admit but options never the less.
2014-03-11 11:06:41 AM  
1 vote:
Funny, I'm reading this from inside a small 4-walled grey structure where I spend 9 hours a day making someone else rich, in exchange for just enough resources to feed myself and have a place to sleep.
2014-03-11 11:00:33 AM  
1 vote:

CruJones: No, I don't eat seafood from Thailand.  All scrimps and crawfish eaten 'round here are from the gulf.

Stay away from Captain D's and this may be less of an issue.


You had me until "stay away from captain D's"!!
2014-03-11 10:59:46 AM  
1 vote:

bdub77: Things made with slave labor (this is not an exhaustive list):

Coffee
Chocolate
Clothing
Cell phones
Computers
Diamonds and Gold
Sugar
Cotton (go figure, the poster product of slavery)
Pretty much anything made in China
Shrimp

Here's a harsh reality. Slavery runs the world. If you make over 35k, you are the 1%. If you make over 70k you are the 0.1%. In fact, according to the U.N. nearly half the world's population, 2.8 billion people, earn less than $2 a day and according to the World Bank, 95% of those living in the developing world earn less than $10 a day.

So yeah. Most of the people in our world are basically slaves. That doesn't mean we shouldn't work to improve our conditions or theirs, but merely to acknowledge the fact that forced slavery and wage slavery is probably roughly the equivalent when you're talking half the world earning less than 2 bucks a day.


you forgot IPHONES. there is documented proof that apple uses slave labor in china. samsung? not so much...
2014-03-11 10:57:57 AM  
1 vote:
Maybe if we weep our bleeding little hearts out for them their conditions will improve.

Oh, sorry no time for that I've got a diamond encrusted IPhone to purchase. Maybe I'll eat shrimp and drink a coffee on the way.
2014-03-11 10:46:55 AM  
1 vote:

Nabb1: I buy only locally caught Gulf shrimp.


Amen.

And ...

5 reasons slaves still catch your seafood dinner.

Huh?  That's a bit assumptive.  It's been a long long time since a slave caught my seafood dinner.
2014-03-11 10:42:50 AM  
1 vote:
notquitecountrygirl.typepad.com

Anyway, like I was sayin', shrimp is the fruit of the sea. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it.
2014-03-11 10:42:35 AM  
1 vote:
img2u.info
2014-03-11 10:40:43 AM  
1 vote:
No, I don't eat seafood from Thailand.  All scrimps and crawfish eaten 'round here are from the gulf.

Stay away from Captain D's and this may be less of an issue.
2014-03-11 10:38:52 AM  
1 vote:
F*ck SALON.

dnrtfa
2014-03-11 10:25:56 AM  
1 vote:
Friends don't let friends eat imported shrimp, sayeth the bumper stickers around here.  The article deals with the human costs of imported shrimp, but there's also a staggering environmental cost (which TFA may also have mentioned).
2014-03-11 10:20:30 AM  
1 vote:

what_now: Yup. I try to be conscious of this in the things I use the most of - coffee, clothing, food- but the reality is that even in this country most of the agricultural work is done by illegal immigrants. And while they aren't slaves, they make very little money and have no protection or recourse from abuse. Let's call them "serfs".

You buy anything from Walmart? Slave made. You buy anything that was grown, picked, or processed in the South West? Serf made.

Unless every single thing you consume is made by hand- or by someone who's workers you personally know- you're contributing to slavery. Eventually, you have to learn to live with that.


Arn't we dealing with economies of scale here? Yes they're making 2 dollars a day, but it's not like they are living in downtown Boston.

I'm not saying there isn't crushing poverty in the world, but just because someone is making very few USD doesn't mean they are poor. Compare cost of living within our own borders. You can't live on minimum wage in New York, NY but you can survive in Tulsa, OK and if you live in Beaumont, MS you own the damn town.
2014-03-11 10:00:27 AM  
1 vote:
img801.imageshack.us
 
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