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2014-03-11 11:09:15 AM  

Tom_Slick: Nabb1: there's no reason to eat imported shrimp.

The entire imported seafood thing bugs me, I only buy stuff caught in North America, I just don't food safety laws and proper shipping techniques of countries 5000+ miles away.


I've been adopting that policy more and more. Coffee is a hard one, so I do put some effort into finding out about what I am buying.
 
2014-03-11 11:09:58 AM  

hitlersbrain: FLMountainMan: ajgeek: Slavery; because without it, Capitalism would never work.

As opposed to communism?  C'mon, think these things through a little more.

You don't really know what Communism is... do you? (Hint: None of the following countries were ever Communist: Soviet Union, China, N. Korea).


I met a Scotsman who was communist once.  True story.
 
2014-03-11 11:11:06 AM  

hitlersbrain: If I could make one change to human DNA it would be to make downtrodden people instinctively band together and destroy the people oppressing them.


Chances are, you'd qualify to be one of the people that the downtrodden would destroy.
 
2014-03-11 11:11:09 AM  

Evil Mackerel: hitlersbrain: If I could make one change to human DNA it would be to make downtrodden people instinctively band together and destroy the people oppressing them. The tolerance and even admiration (republicans) we have for cruel and oppressive power is one of our worst traits.

I'll bite.

So you want to force people to resist being forced?


I think he forgot about every revolution ever, but that may be the oppressive republican in me, it's much better to centralize all industry and power in the government of course
 
2014-03-11 11:13:30 AM  

hitlersbrain: If I could make one change to human DNA it would be to make downtrodden people instinctively band together and destroy the people oppressing them. The tolerance and even admiration (republicans) we have for cruel and oppressive power is one of our worst traits.


History is full of revolutions by the downtrodden. It's not an issue of DNA, but a matter of extraneous factors.
 
2014-03-11 11:13:54 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Almost all of the victims are smuggled from destitute villages in Myanmar...

It will always be Burma to me.


It was Imperial first
The Brits had it next
They gained independence
but now it's a wreck
Bur-Myanmar
 
2014-03-11 11:14:38 AM  

what_now: Nabb1: what_now: I only buy shrimp from the Gulf Coast, so.. not quite slaves.

Got over your worries about BP oil-infused shrimp finally? Good. I thought I was going to have to get a friend of mine from Wildlife and Fisheries to beat you with a wet noodle. Besides, imported shrimp are farmed in very specious conditions, hardly regulated, and seldom tested for contaminants. Many shrimp operations have them growing in waters tainted by chemicals and raw sewage. Not to mention they often have an unpleasant heavy iodine taste to them. So, between slave labor, poop, toxic chemicals, and bad taste, there's no reason to eat imported shrimp.

It took a while for me to eat any shrimp, honestly. I'm from New England- I'm pretty picky about my seafood. I just found out about the Thai shrimp situation a few months ago, but I generally refuse to eat any seafood that wasn't swimming relatively close to me.

For instance, I will never eat (salt water) fish in the Midwest. There's just no need.


Oysters ship surprisingly well as long as they stay on ice.
 
2014-03-11 11:14:57 AM  
Well, duh. Shrimp just isn't the same if it isn't infused with the tears of a peasant.
 
2014-03-11 11:14:58 AM  
Abe Vigoda's Ghost Almost all of the victims are smuggled from destitute villages in Myanmar... It will always be Burma to me.25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-03-11 11:15:29 AM  
I find child labor improves the taste of shrimp.
 
2014-03-11 11:16:12 AM  
I get my shrimp from some tard and gymp down on the gulf...

You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, shrimp-kabobs, shrimp creole, shrimp gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple shrimp, lemon shrimp, coconut shrimp, pepper shrimp, shrimp soup, shrimp stew, shrimp salad, shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger, shrimp sandwich. That- that's about it
 
2014-03-11 11:17:32 AM  
5. Consumers don't seem to care

Dear Salon writer:   Inconvenient truth: consumers can't research every. single. item. they purchase in order to see where it comes from.
 
2014-03-11 11:18:58 AM  
media1.giphy.com
 
2014-03-11 11:19:13 AM  

xtech: bdub77: Things made with slave labor (this is not an exhaustive list):

Coffee
Chocolate
Clothing
Cell phones
Computers
Diamonds and Gold
Sugar
Cotton (go figure, the poster product of slavery)
Pretty much anything made in China
Shrimp

Here's a harsh reality. Slavery runs the world. If you make over 35k, you are the 1%. If you make over 70k you are the 0.1%. In fact, according to the U.N. nearly half the world's population, 2.8 billion people, earn less than $2 a day and according to the World Bank, 95% of those living in the developing world earn less than $10 a day.

So yeah. Most of the people in our world are basically slaves. That doesn't mean we shouldn't work to improve our conditions or theirs, but merely to acknowledge the fact that forced slavery and wage slavery is probably roughly the equivalent when you're talking half the world earning less than 2 bucks a day.

you forgot IPHONES. there is documented proof that apple uses slave labor in china. samsung? not so much...


I said cell phones. Also, most cell phone manufacturers use minerals mined from slave labor mines in Africa. And you don't think the working conditions at Samsung are nearly as bad as Foxconn?
 
2014-03-11 11:19:42 AM  
I pay taxes, doesn't that make me a slave too?
 
2014-03-11 11:21:08 AM  
I buy shrimp fresh off of the boat for a few bucks a pound, so getting a kick...
 
2014-03-11 11:22:19 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: hitlersbrain: If I could make one change to human DNA it would be to make downtrodden people instinctively band together and destroy the people oppressing them.

Chances are, you'd qualify to be one of the people that the downtrodden would destroy.


Everybody wants to rule the world... but nobody should.

/my slaves would not be sweaty, stinky fishermen. I'd be more like Sardu the guy in Bloodsucking Freaks.
 
2014-03-11 11:22:21 AM  

Devo: I find child labor improves the taste of shrimp.


Their tears adds that special flavor.
 
2014-03-11 11:23:20 AM  
I'd have to care first.
 
2014-03-11 11:23:30 AM  
I will, thank you. Mmmm. I wondering if the slavery is what makes them taste so good? Oh well, who cares. I think I'll get sushi for dinner now.
 
2014-03-11 11:23:58 AM  

highbrow45: I pay taxes, doesn't that make me a slave too?


I hear there are great opportunities for fishermen in thailand... tax free!
 
2014-03-11 11:24:01 AM  
Not a single restaurant on this famous shrimper's dock actually serves local caught shrimp.  Only The Wreck does, located just a little further down, which while considered one of the best taste-wise, also constantly gets complaints from locals about being "over-priced".

www.charlestonartmarket.com
 
2014-03-11 11:24:06 AM  

highbrow45: I pay taxes, doesn't that make me a slave too?


A slave to FOX News, apparently.
 
2014-03-11 11:24:13 AM  
First: Shrimp are not made by slaves...They are made because a mommy shrimp and a daddy shrimp loved each other very much.

Second: Buy local...

Well, unless you're from Thailand. Then it's, apparently, still bad.
 
2014-03-11 11:24:55 AM  
raise your hand if you've ever peed in the ocean.  now raise your hand if you've ever peed on a cow.

fark your nasty seafood.
 
2014-03-11 11:25:21 AM  

bdub77: xtech: bdub77: Things made with slave labor (this is not an exhaustive list):

Coffee
Chocolate
Clothing
Cell phones
Computers
Diamonds and Gold
Sugar
Cotton (go figure, the poster product of slavery)
Pretty much anything made in China
Shrimp

Here's a harsh reality. Slavery runs the world. If you make over 35k, you are the 1%. If you make over 70k you are the 0.1%. In fact, according to the U.N. nearly half the world's population, 2.8 billion people, earn less than $2 a day and according to the World Bank, 95% of those living in the developing world earn less than $10 a day.

So yeah. Most of the people in our world are basically slaves. That doesn't mean we shouldn't work to improve our conditions or theirs, but merely to acknowledge the fact that forced slavery and wage slavery is probably roughly the equivalent when you're talking half the world earning less than 2 bucks a day.

you forgot IPHONES. there is documented proof that apple uses slave labor in china. samsung? not so much...

I said cell phones. Also, most cell phone manufacturers use minerals mined from slave labor mines in Africa. And you don't think the working conditions at Samsung are nearly as bad as Foxconn?


if they were, we'd hear about it on the news like we do apple and slave labor.

maybe samsung is better at hiding it? idk, but apple has a lot of well documented cases against it for using slave labor.

samsung has documented ALLEGATIONS going back to 2011/2012. since then, a few random cases (2?) showed up, but it seems like samsung cleaned up its act. apple? not so much. still using the same factories where people jump to their deaths, where kids are pulled out of school and made to work at the factories, and if they dont they mysteriously find their college funding non-existent, or their families suddenly have the gov't knocking on their door.
 
2014-03-11 11:26:25 AM  

demarke: Evil Mackerel: hitlersbrain: If I could make one change to human DNA it would be to make downtrodden people instinctively band together and destroy the people oppressing them. The tolerance and even admiration (republicans) we have for cruel and oppressive power is one of our worst traits.

I'll bite.

So you want to force people to resist being forced?

I think he forgot about every revolution ever, but that may be the oppressive republican in me, it's much better to centralize all industry and power in the government of course


Also, Napoleon Pig learned to walk upright.
 
2014-03-11 11:26:53 AM  

That Guy Jeff: I will, thank you. Mmmm. I wondering if the slavery is what makes them taste so good? Oh well, who cares. I think I'll get sushi for dinner now.


LOL,  Asian shrimp tastes terrible.  You have bad taste.
 
2014-03-11 11:27:12 AM  

stonelotus: raise your hand if you've ever peed in the ocean.  now raise your hand if you've ever peed on a cow.

fark your nasty seafood.


You've apparently avoided all knowledge of modern cattle feed lots. Good for you.
 
2014-03-11 11:28:00 AM  

Kraftwerk Orange: Not a single restaurant on this famous shrimper's dock actually serves local caught shrimp.  Only The Wreck does, located just a little further down, which while considered one of the best taste-wise, also constantly gets complaints from locals about being "over-priced".

[www.charlestonartmarket.com image 640x226]


When I lived in Charleston, everyone knew that hole area was where tourists went to eat fried seafood platters. I used to go down to a little place just before you got to Folly Beach from James Island and there was a shop at a small dock where some shrimp boats would come in. You could get head-on shrimp for $1.25 a pound. Being poor and in college, we'd pool our money, get some seasoning, a case of beer, and peel and boil those things on a Saturday. There was something great about being broke and still knowing that you were eating shrimp that had been swimming in the ocean twelve hours ago.
 
2014-03-11 11:29:04 AM  

stonelotus: raise your hand if you've ever peed in the ocean.  now raise your hand if you've ever peed on a cow.

fark your nasty seafood.


Do cows not shiat and piss in the very pastures they roam and eat grass?
 
2014-03-11 11:30:57 AM  

lockers: stonelotus: raise your hand if you've ever peed in the ocean.  now raise your hand if you've ever peed on a cow.

fark your nasty seafood.

You've apparently avoided all knowledge of modern cattle feed lots. Good for you.


It doesn't even have to be a modern feed lot, cows don't seem to be put off by their own or neighbors waste.

/Went to the old family dairy farm over 30 years ago, cows poop while being milked. It was funny to 5 year old.
 
2014-03-11 11:32:59 AM  

bdub77: Things made with slave labor (this is not an exhaustive list):

Coffee
Chocolate
Clothing
Cell phones
Computers
Diamonds and Gold
Sugar
Cotton (go figure, the poster product of slavery)
Pretty much anything made in China
Shrimp

Here's a harsh reality. Slavery runs the world. If you make over 35k, you are the 1%. If you make over 70k you are the 0.1%. In fact, according to the U.N. nearly half the world's population, 2.8 billion people, earn less than $2 a day and according to the World Bank, 95% of those living in the developing world earn less than $10 a day.

So yeah. Most of the people in our world are basically slaves. That doesn't mean we shouldn't work to improve our conditions or theirs, but merely to acknowledge the fact that forced slavery and wage slavery is probably roughly the equivalent when you're talking half the world earning less than 2 bucks a day.


Capitalism!
 
2014-03-11 11:33:04 AM  

Nabb1: hitlersbrain: If I could make one change to human DNA it would be to make downtrodden people instinctively band together and destroy the people oppressing them. The tolerance and even admiration (republicans) we have for cruel and oppressive power is one of our worst traits.

History is full of revolutions by the downtrodden. It's not an issue of DNA, but a matter of extraneous factors.


Unfortunately it was usually more of a changing of the guard... new king same as old king. Even today in the USA the fight goes on, with the help of the tea party we are poised to fall back into corporate sponsored fascism. Evolution favors those who can tolerate being slaves, same as evolution favors the livestock we slaughter for food. Evolution can really suck.
 
2014-03-11 11:33:09 AM  

Nabb1: I buy only locally caught Gulf shrimp.


Same here. I'll admit I buy a ring or two of cocktail shrimp from from grocery stores occasionally, but I trust locally caught stocks better if I'm serving it up to friends and family for simple reasons; I know where it's from and if there's PSP in the water I'll know about it. Also....the sidebar story how white women belly dancing is somehow racist is more interesting because....big butts and I can not lie.

/Thailand is not the south as already posted.
 
2014-03-11 11:33:50 AM  

Nabb1: stonelotus: raise your hand if you've ever peed in the ocean.  now raise your hand if you've ever peed on a cow.

fark your nasty seafood.

Do cows not shiat and piss in the very pastures they roam and eat grass?


Absolutely every bit of non-solar energy that we consume has been shiat in one form or another in the past. There are no plants without shiat. There is no food without shiat. Shiat is the most important thing we produce.
 
2014-03-11 11:34:12 AM  

stonelotus: raise your hand if you've ever peed in the ocean.  now raise your hand if you've ever peed on a cow.

fark your nasty seafood.


i.imgur.com
 
2014-03-11 11:36:59 AM  
Hurry, Up Shrimp!
 
2014-03-11 11:37:24 AM  

Nabb1: what_now: Nabb1: what_now: I only buy shrimp from the Gulf Coast, so.. not quite slaves.

Got over your worries about BP oil-infused shrimp finally? Good. I thought I was going to have to get a friend of mine from Wildlife and Fisheries to beat you with a wet noodle. Besides, imported shrimp are farmed in very specious conditions, hardly regulated, and seldom tested for contaminants. Many shrimp operations have them growing in waters tainted by chemicals and raw sewage. Not to mention they often have an unpleasant heavy iodine taste to them. So, between slave labor, poop, toxic chemicals, and bad taste, there's no reason to eat imported shrimp.

It took a while for me to eat any shrimp, honestly. I'm from New England- I'm pretty picky about my seafood. I just found out about the Thai shrimp situation a few months ago, but I generally refuse to eat any seafood that wasn't swimming relatively close to me.

For instance, I will never eat (salt water) fish in the Midwest. There's just no need.

Oysters ship surprisingly well as long as they stay on ice.


I found that to also be the case with hookers.
 
2014-03-11 11:37:32 AM  
www.bricoleurbanism.org
 
2014-03-11 11:37:38 AM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-11 11:37:51 AM  

NicoFinn: Ah eet Gulf skrimps.

/Well, ah used ta.


BP's gonna start a marketing sideline (if they ain't already)
 
2014-03-11 11:38:12 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Arn't we dealing with economies of scale here? Yes they're making 2 dollars a day, but it's not like they are living in downtown Boston.


That $2/day isn't a lot of money anywhere. The cost of living is low because the standard of living is low. When you have several generations of a family crammed into a tiny room in a shanty town wedged between a chemical refinery and a landfill, all of whom are getting barely enough nutrition to survive, then sure - your 'cost of living' is low.
 
2014-03-11 11:39:21 AM  
Do they dance in the evenings on the ships?

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2014-03-11 11:41:32 AM  

Rapmaster2000: That Guy Jeff: I will, thank you. Mmmm. I wondering if the slavery is what makes them taste so good? Oh well, who cares. I think I'll get sushi for dinner now.

LOL,  Asian shrimp tastes terrible.  You have bad taste.


Oh, this will be good. Please, enlighten me as to what "asian shrimp" is.
 
2014-03-11 11:41:46 AM  

Nabb1: Kraftwerk Orange: Not a single restaurant on this famous shrimper's dock actually serves local caught shrimp.  Only The Wreck does, located just a little further down, which while considered one of the best taste-wise, also constantly gets complaints from locals about being "over-priced".

[www.charlestonartmarket.com image 640x226]

When I lived in Charleston, everyone knew that hole area was where tourists went to eat fried seafood platters. I used to go down to a little place just before you got to Folly Beach from James Island and there was a shop at a small dock where some shrimp boats would come in. You could get head-on shrimp for $1.25 a pound. Being poor and in college, we'd pool our money, get some seasoning, a case of beer, and peel and boil those things on a Saturday. There was something great about being broke and still knowing that you were eating shrimp that had been swimming in the ocean twelve hours ago.


I've eaten there.  Just past the Angel Oak.  IIRC, the trawlers were owned by family members.

A couple of the restaurants on Folly bought from them, too.
 
2014-03-11 11:43:37 AM  

CruJones: crawfish


Ah, last time I checked crawfish were fresh water creatures raised in ponds inland.
 
2014-03-11 11:43:49 AM  

That Guy Jeff: Rapmaster2000: That Guy Jeff: I will, thank you. Mmmm. I wondering if the slavery is what makes them taste so good? Oh well, who cares. I think I'll get sushi for dinner now.

LOL,  Asian shrimp tastes terrible.  You have bad taste.

Oh, this will be good. Please, enlighten me as to what "asian shrimp" is.


It's those little yellow bastards.
 
2014-03-11 11:45:11 AM  
I don't eat shrimp unless it is caught by my 23rd cousins down in the Gulf.

Unless I'm at Olive Garden. Sweet sweet Olive Garden.
 
2014-03-11 11:46:44 AM  

theflatline: CruJones: crawfish

Ah, last time I checked crawfish were fresh water creatures raised in ponds inland.


Yes, they are, and thanks to numerous spells of unusually cold weather down here, those little mudbugs are quite expensive this year.
 
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