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(Make It So)   Someone with WAY too much time on their hands created a flowchart to help you figure out the proper reading order for all the Star Trek novels. Subby has easier answer: look for "Peter David" on the cover and forget the rest   (thetrekcollective.com) divider line 50
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2014-03-11 08:14:45 AM
Done in the headline.
 
2014-03-11 08:36:26 AM
Not even close to all...

Peter David is a great author, Diane Duane is better
 
2014-03-11 08:48:46 AM
Subby left off Dayton Ward, Kevin Dilmore, Keith DeCandido, David Mack...

You know what?  If one of their names starts with a D, you should read their books.
 
2014-03-11 08:50:52 AM
New Frontier should have followed Voyager on TV.
 
2014-03-11 09:05:33 AM
Subby has easier answer: look for "Peter David" William Shatner on the cover and forget the rest

FTFY
 
2014-03-11 09:25:42 AM
John M. Ford.
 
2014-03-11 09:27:51 AM
 
2014-03-11 09:27:57 AM

FirstNationalBastard: New Frontier should have followed Voyager on TV.


That would rock as an HBO series. All other Trek is dull and sanitized by comparison.
 
2014-03-11 09:28:51 AM
bah, I was too slow for you, 3825968
 
2014-03-11 09:29:01 AM
Not even a mention of the Shatner Universe?

I assume this is on purpose, so I'll just say that the Shatnerverse is solid. A couple of duds, the rest are pretty interesting.
 
2014-03-11 09:29:30 AM
Yo subby...

Judith and Garfield Reeves Stevens are damned good writers.  Very knowledgeable about TOS, which they use to great advantage.

Someone gave me their novel Prime Directive, and upon reading it I was very much surprised at how good it was.
 
2014-03-11 09:50:28 AM
But what about my furry star trek fandom?  Where does that start?
 
2014-03-11 10:22:05 AM
My kid just read the Doctor Who/TNG mashup. It was OK, even though I found the artwork unskilled.
 
2014-03-11 10:49:35 AM
Useless without "How Much for Just the Planet?"
 
2014-03-11 11:11:32 AM

Rev. Skarekroe: Subby has easier answer: look for "Peter David" William Shatner on the cover and forget the rest

FTFY


i.imgur.com

Indeed....
 
2014-03-11 11:19:04 AM

Mad_Radhu: Useless without "How Much for Just the Planet?"


Heh.  I once started reading that aloud during a long car trip.  The rest of the family made me stop.
 
2014-03-11 11:31:19 AM
I've read maybe eight to ten Star Trek novels, Vendetta is probably the best. That one could have made a very good movie.

The Myriad Universe and Mirror Universe series were both excellent, too.
 
2014-03-11 12:14:15 PM

Mad_Radhu: Useless without "How Much for Just the Planet?"


Love that one... it's the slapstick comedy of ST
 
2014-03-11 12:26:36 PM
Peter David blows.  Bullied prick who Mary Sues himself into every character.

Star Trek DTI by Christopher Bennett are super good though.
 
2014-03-11 12:36:07 PM
The Internet is full of people with WAY too much time on their hands...

Who do you think is in here??
And who do you think fills in all the tedious details for us to do our jobs, giving us more time to be in here??

Duh...
 
2014-03-11 12:47:32 PM
I'd add Diane Carey to this list.

Dreadnought and Battlestations! remain two of my favorite Trek novels ever.

Someone already mentioned Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens.  Prime Directive is another one of my all-time faves.

The newest series I picked up and LOVED was Destiny - such a grand story on an epic scale, and one of the most creative origin stories I've ever read (I won't say more for fear of spoiling).  If you're a Trek fan, get them post-haste!
 
2014-03-11 12:55:15 PM

Majick Thise: Not even close to all...
Peter David is a great author, Diane Duane is better


Agreed - Final Frontier is probably the only Trek novel that I would ever consider reading again.  Peter David's stuff was enjoyable, but key elements of his stories (the few I read, anyway) were demolished by later episodes or movies.

My general rule these days is that if the primary medium is good - skip the secondary media. Reading a licensed novel simply will not increase my enjoyment of a film or show. It's more likely to harm it. The most grating thing to me when it comes to fandom is debates about what is "canon" to any given franchise vs. what isn't. The entire concept of "canon" only exists because Gene Roddenberry wanted to reward one of his flunkies with an additional title instead of with money. It shouldn't even be applied to Trek - let alone other universes like Star Wars, Doctor Who, etc.

If something from a secondary medium is interesting or useful to a writer of the primary medium - they will incorporate it. If not, they won't. It's really that simple. Are there good novels for most of the franchises I enjoy? Certainly. But there are plenty of other good novel universes out there without accompanying shows or movies. I can enjoy those universes just as much, while supporting authors for their originality.
 
2014-03-11 01:07:00 PM
While I was in grad school (with no other life and no money), I found some old Trek paperbacks.  Can't remember who wrote them or what they were about, but they were a good brain salve and tonic to read while trying to fall asleep.

After pounding many "facts" into my head.
 
2014-03-11 01:07:18 PM
What about these - from about 20 years ago

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2014-03-11 01:25:17 PM
They need R A Salvatore to liven up the Trek universe and kill off a few major characters.
 
2014-03-11 01:31:56 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com

/Get off my lawn
 
2014-03-11 02:17:58 PM

clkeagle: Majick Thise: Not even close to all...
Peter David is a great author, Diane Duane is better


Agreed - Final Frontier is probably the only Trek novel that I would ever consider reading again


Yes it was a fine book, just not written by Diane Duane... It was written by Diane Carey another exceptional author. As far as I am concerned it doesn't matter what's on film or what Gene said... Diane Duane, Diane Carey and Dorothy Fontana wrote the canon on all things Vulcan and Romulan!

I choose what's canon, as it should be, and if you chose differently than I do.... that's also as it should be. Each person should choose for themselves what they like.

I will always be thankful to Gene Roddenberry for creating Star Trek and giving us the vision, but he really only had one good story in him (for ST anyway) and that was 'The Cage'. It took many other more talented people to make that vision into the last 50 years of Star Trek (using the date of The Cage.. 1964, hey I'm a purist)
 
2014-03-11 02:38:55 PM
Subby, you spelled James Blish wrong...
 
2014-03-11 02:43:19 PM
LMAO...

The Peter David novels were the most fannish, fanboi-ish jerk fests out off all of them. ALL of his TNG books had to have some sort of exchange/reference between TOS and some of the random aliens they met then. The TOS crew is always mentioned etc. Just horrid clap trap.

In general, the novelizations suck and stink for fan-fic.
 
2014-03-11 03:11:19 PM
TFA fails to explain why it's acceptable for franchise novels to exist in the first place.  Many of the Star Trek, Star Wars, etc. writers are fine authors in their own right.  Think of all the excellent work of their own they might have created instead of wasting their time on what's really nothing more than authorized fan fiction.  Every time I think about Timothy Zahn pissing away his talent on that Star Wars book, it puts a serious chafe in my chaps.  It's like asking Ansel Adams working the photo station at the DMV.

Leave that stuff to the weirdos on fanfic web sites.  If you absolutely MUST have a Star Trek novel, I'm sure that "Twelve Years an Orion Slave Girl" and "Silver Plasma Conduit Linings Playbook" will feed your jones, and as a bonus it's almost guaranteed that one of them will have some sweet Kirk-on-Crusher action (NTTAWTT).
 
2014-03-11 04:34:11 PM

JohnCarter: What about these - from about 20 years ago

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Most Star Trek novels I own are that old.  I bought a ton starting around 1990, for a few years.  Looking back, most weren't really that good.
 
2014-03-11 05:15:44 PM
"Someone with WAY too much time on their hands created a flowchart to help you figure out the proper reading order for all the Star Trek nov-"
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2014-03-11 06:16:50 PM
Ha, I was going to mention Duane, Carey, Blish, Greg Bear, the Reeves-Stevenses...Howard Weinstein was good too. My favorite novel is Wounded Sky by Diane Duane, then after that Q-Squared, Prime Directive, First Frontier, Shell Game, Tears of the Singers, and New Voyages 2. I also enjoyed the adaptations of The Animated Series in Blish's Star Trek: Logs series...I don't even know if anyone remembers those...
 
2014-03-11 08:24:22 PM
Star Trek: Vanguard.  That is all.  One of the best Trek series ever.
 
2014-03-11 09:08:02 PM
pfft.  This one is the only one I'll read.

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2014-03-11 09:16:04 PM

ristst: Yo subby...

Judith and Garfield Reeves Stevens are damned good writers.  Very knowledgeable about TOS, which they use to great advantage.

Someone gave me their novel Prime Directive, and upon reading it I was very much surprised at how good it was.


All of thier novels that I have read (mostly the Ghost-written Shatner novels) read like Trek Fan Fiction. Like "AWWWWWWE!!! DUDE! wouldn't it be AWESOME if the next Enterprise was Defiant class ship! And it was all like PEW PEW PEW and stuff! And for some reason, Scotty invented it! And Picard and Kirk have to team up and blow up the borg who are working with the Romulans! and Doctor McCoy has to work with Bashir to create a cure for Kirk! Cause stuff like that happened on the shows!"

Peter David is at least capable of writing a trek novel that seems like it fits in the Trek universe as it's own series. Though, some original series novel are pretty good. But anything TNG, DS9, and ESPECIALLY Voyager are horrible reads. I've given up on trek books before Enterprise, but I doubt they fare any better.
 
2014-03-11 10:38:33 PM

ThatBillmanGuy: But anything TNG, DS9, and ESPECIALLY Voyager are horrible reads. I've given up on trek books before Enterprise, but I doubt they fare any better.


Disagree, the Millenium trilogy was excellent.
 
2014-03-11 11:01:36 PM

mwenye_kichaa: Ha, I was going to mention Duane, Carey, Blish, Greg Bear, the Reeves-Stevenses...Howard Weinstein was good too. My favorite novel is Wounded Sky by Diane Duane, then after that Q-Squared, Prime Directive, First Frontier, Shell Game, Tears of the Singers, and New Voyages 2. I also enjoyed the adaptations of The Animated Series in Blish's Star Trek: Logs series...I don't even know if anyone remembers those...

Wounded Sky

 is good. I really liked  Uhura's Song. Some of my other favs are  The Devil's HeartFederationProbeDark Mirror, everyone has to like  Vendetta (I think it's a law or something),  The Price of the Phoenix and  The Fate of the Phoenix, Corona, and  The Entropy Effect.
 
2014-03-11 11:10:57 PM

Grognard: Flowchart fails without http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_Final_Reflection


This.

/Bonus - I learned that McCoy practiced medicine in my hometown before joining Starfleet!
 
2014-03-12 12:46:34 AM
I was gonna include Corona but thought my list was already too long. (g) The Phoenix ones were cool too. I never read Vendetta, though. Can't remember why not. Ha.
 
2014-03-12 04:40:17 AM
+5 for Diane Duane. Her " Rihannsu: the Bloodwing Voyages " is a freaking *tome* but I consider it a must-read for any Trek fan.

She also did a good treatment of Spider-Man and Venom that I consider to be better than the movie (you don't KILL OFF Venom in the *1st movie,* you idiots!!)
 
2014-03-12 05:01:09 AM

CzarChasm: +5 for Diane Duane. Her " Rihannsu: the Bloodwing Voyages " is a freaking *tome* but I consider it a must-read for any Trek fan.


I hadn't heard of that one, but I own a copy of 'My Enemy, My Ally', (I think that's the name) so I recognize the name Bloodwing, and Rihannsu as the proper name for Romulans.
 
2014-03-12 06:17:14 AM

Alphax: CzarChasm: +5 for Diane Duane. Her " Rihannsu: the Bloodwing Voyages " is a freaking *tome* but I consider it a must-read for any Trek fan.


I hadn't heard of that one, but I own a copy of 'My Enemy, My Ally',


That's book one of the Rihannsu series if I remember correctly and it's one of my favorites of all ST books
 
2014-03-12 08:29:57 AM

ThatBillmanGuy: All of thier novels that I have read (mostly the Ghost-written Shatner novels)


I stopped reading your post after this
 
2014-03-12 09:16:33 AM

FirstNationalBastard: New Frontier should have followed Voyager on TV.


so very much this!
 
2014-03-12 09:22:49 AM

mwenye_kichaa: My favorite novel is Wounded Sky by Diane Duane, then after that Q-Squared, Prime Directive, First Frontier, Shell Game, Tears of the Singers, and New Voyages 2.


Aww, no love for Q-in-Law? Or Federation, which would have made a better movie than Generations or even First Contact (and while the former isn't saying much, the latter is).
 
2014-03-12 11:43:12 AM

Palmer Eldritch: ThatBillmanGuy: But anything TNG, DS9, and ESPECIALLY Voyager are horrible reads. I've given up on trek books before Enterprise, but I doubt they fare any better.

Disagree, the Millenium trilogy was excellent.


I was a bit over generalizing books I hadn't read, I admit. I have wanted to check them out, but I've been so disappointed by trek books, I don't even bother trying to read them.

Oh, and a Stitch in Time was great. So there's another DS9 book that was awesome as well. Forgot about that one.
 
2014-03-12 11:44:34 AM

ristst: ThatBillmanGuy: All of thier novels that I have read (mostly the Ghost-written Shatner novels)

I stopped reading your post after this


I thought that was common knowledge? He basically sits around while they write. That's pretty much what he said on Conan several years ago.
 
2014-03-12 07:31:59 PM

ThatBillmanGuy: ristst: ThatBillmanGuy: All of thier novels that I have read (mostly the Ghost-written Shatner novels)

I stopped reading your post after this

I thought that was common knowledge? He basically sits around while they write. That's pretty much what he said on Conan several years ago.


I always knew this. He has an idea about the character and they make it into a book. The Reeves-Stevens' are pretty good writers
 
2014-03-12 09:06:36 PM

r_deal: Peter David blows.  Bullied prick who Mary Sues himself into every character.

Star Trek DTI by Christopher Bennett are super good though.


You have to give him props for what could be the absolute best solution to the Kobayashi Maru scenario in Sword and Anvil. Mackenzie Calhoun, while pretty much based on his Quentin Stone character (don't like the Prime Directive?  Meet the officer who went batshiat crazy from upholding it...) from Strike Zone, was a bad-ass mo-fo.

I also applaud David's ability to cleverly meld TOS elements with TNG stories. My paperbacks of the Imzadi and Q-Squared novels are worn from re-reads.

Also enjoyed the most recent trilogy where they finally eliminated the Borg.
 
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