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(FM World)   The biggest workplace issue for people under 30 is not wages, working conditions or an affordable health plan: it's free office coffee. Seriously. Put an urn in the breakroom and watch workers shut up about all their other petty grievances   (fm-world.co.uk) divider line 85
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2014-03-11 09:59:47 AM  
Better believe it, baby.
 
2014-03-11 10:12:25 AM  
It's kind of a big deal for people over 30, too.
 
2014-03-11 10:13:00 AM  
How hard is coffee? Yet offices get it wrong all the time. Other basic stuff offices can't seem to do right is reliable access to the building, with doors that are easy to use. Put handles on the pull side and push plates on the push side. Unlock both doors in a two-door opening. Have proper signage, with an easy-to-read-from-the-street building number.

Arriving to do business should be effortless, whether it's your employees or your customers.
 
2014-03-11 10:16:55 AM  
My office just ditched coffee and put in Keurig machines, telling everyone they have to buy their own. And bring your own sugar and milk. And they'll throw away your milk every friday, whether it's expired or not.

It's all pretty insulting, honestly. Plus it just sends the wrong message when you nickel and dime employees like that.
 
2014-03-11 10:25:25 AM  

mccallcl: How hard is coffee? Yet offices get it wrong all the time. Other basic stuff offices can't seem to do right is reliable access to the building, with doors that are easy to use. Put handles on the pull side and push plates on the push side. Unlock both doors in a two-door opening. Have proper signage, with an easy-to-read-from-the-street building number.

Arriving to do business should be effortless, whether it's your employees or your customers.


The elevators in our building broke after a power outage in October - a circuit board went up or somesuch. The company that originally installed the elevators in used some sort of proprietary hardware. They went out of business a couple of years ago. They've got one up and running shabbat style, but that's it.

/I've been taking the stairs, but I'm relatively young and healthy.
//Took building management three weeks to unlock the doors in the stairwells.
 
2014-03-11 10:31:48 AM  
Keurig machines are terrible for work places. They make us pay $1 to use ours... but it's not for the coffee, its for the hot water. You pay to use the machine, even if you bring your own pucks.

Screw that. French press.
 
2014-03-11 10:38:22 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: Screw that. French press.


I tried it for a while, but that ended when my coworkers brewed some kind of blueberry monstrosity in mine.
 
2014-03-11 10:40:58 AM  
I weep for the younger generation.

/loath everything about coffee
//free mountain dew or bust
 
2014-03-11 10:41:48 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: Keurig machines are terrible for work places. They make us pay $1 to use ours... but it's not for the coffee, its for the hot water. You pay to use the machine, even if you bring your own pucks.

Screw that. French press.


Your own company makes you pay for that?  Wow.  We have complimentary Keurig coffee and tea  for employees and customers (a decent variety, but I bring my own, already ground and use a reusable K-cup).

/lucky, I guess
 
2014-03-11 10:41:49 AM  

PainInTheASP: I tried it for a while, but that ended when my coworkers brewed some kind of blueberry monstrosity in mine.


I never clean mine until just before I want to use it again. Keeps people away from it.
 
2014-03-11 10:44:28 AM  

GuyFawkes: Your own company makes you pay for that?  Wow.  We have complimentary Keurig coffee and tea  for employees and customers (a decent variety, but I bring my own, already ground and use a reusable K-cup).

/lucky, I guess


It's run by the company that runs the cafeteria in the building. We're not a startup and for some reason we have some catering company provide all the coffee. They have a shop on the main floor where its the same price and comes out of a carafe... it's terrible coffee. It's also a terrible cafeteria so I bring my lunch and a thermos of coffee every day.
 
2014-03-11 10:48:02 AM  

Put an urn in the breakroom and watch workers shut up about all their other petty grievances


So... cremate one employee and leave the urn as an example to the others?
 
2014-03-11 10:52:23 AM  
It's amazing how productive employees can be when employers show that they actually care a little about them, and don't just try to get away with paying them the least that they can and providing them with the fewest benefits they can and still have the employee show up to work.
 
2014-03-11 10:57:27 AM  
The biggest workplace issue for people over 30 is people under 30.
 
2014-03-11 10:59:48 AM  

GavinTheAlmighty: It's amazing how productive employees can be when employers show that they actually care a little about them, and don't just try to get away with paying them the least that they can and providing them with the fewest benefits they can and still have the employee show up to work.


THIS. A happy worker is a productive worker.
 
2014-03-11 11:06:23 AM  
We have free coffee here at my office. But it's Folgers. No thanks.

I went out and bought a $20 Mr. Coffee and set it up on my desk so I can make my own.
 
2014-03-11 11:16:30 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: My office just ditched coffee and put in Keurig machines, telling everyone they have to buy their own. And bring your own sugar and milk. And they'll throw away your milk every friday, whether it's expired or not.

It's all pretty insulting, honestly. Plus it just sends the wrong message when you nickel and dime employees like that.


I think it communicates clearly. The company message is clearly;

"We're not going to give you anything more than as little as possible. I guess you might as well do the same towards us."
 
2014-03-11 11:19:54 AM  
My employer recently moved to temporary quarters (our HQ is closed for renovations that are expected to take several years). The Keurig machine our department bought to replace the soda machine we no longer had room for was worth it just by itself. I've worked there for ten years. At any point during that time I would have killed someone for a coffee machine. I wasn't allowed to have my own coffee pot (for safety reasons, we were told), the coffee in HQ's cafeteria was awful and I never enjoyed running over the road for decent coffee and paying through the nose. I reckoned I've saved a small fortune already.

So yes, there is something to this argument.
 
2014-03-11 11:21:57 AM  
Most bad company decisions seem to boil down to managing by spreadsheet or metrics.

Sure, ending the free coffee saves some cash. Bit that fancy spreadsheet of yours doesn't capture the lost productivity due to worse attitudes.

I think "metrics" are one of the biggest problems in (large) companies these days. Precious few metrics are so cleverly written that they don't have unintended negative consequence.

* Tell manufacturing to cut inventory? Later ship times and unhappy customers!
* Measure lines of code from a programmer? More typing, less thinking!
* Obsess about stock performance every quarter? Say goodbye to long term planning!


It is like a contagious mental disease. I know lots of people in lots of companies who would do things better if they were over-constrained by metrics, policies, and share price.

/end rant
/small companies rock
 
2014-03-11 11:22:44 AM  
Give them a coffee machine and the next thing they will want is free donuts.
 
2014-03-11 11:27:46 AM  
At one office I worked at they had kcup machines and everyone biatched how it wasnt "real" coffee. When the office moved they got all pissy because they dropped the kcups and swiched to some shiatty folgers or something as bad and they cried even louder. The funny thing was during the move all the extra kcups went missing and there were a lot of them I would say at least a thousand dollars worth. So she interrogates me three times about the coffee and the funny thing is I dont drink coffee. Glad I am away from that looney toon.
 
2014-03-11 11:41:01 AM  
All the companies I have worked that offered coffee provided the coffee maker but the employees provide the coffee.   Most were decent enough to do.  You mainly got Folgers and you had to throw in a buck  or two every month.  My current employer used to do that but had a bad free rider problem long before I joined.  And personal makers are baned because a few employees forget to turn off their own maker almost burning down the building.  My personal solution is the 64oz Coleman and my coffee mug full every day and I still have to go an purchase a cup from the kiosk in the building each day.
 
2014-03-11 11:41:32 AM  
Coffee = Productivity
 
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2014-03-11 11:57:31 AM  
Some semi-spammy mailing list thinks I'm a hiring manager so I keep getting email about what it takes to keep Millennials happy. With this article I think I'm getting instructions on how to legally practice age discrimination. No free hipster coffee = no kids taking biminutely Facebook breaks.
 
2014-03-11 12:07:43 PM  
I use a popcorn popper to roast my own beans. I use a Bullet mixer to grind my beans. I use a Melitta pour over filter to make a pot of coffee.

I have about $10 invested total. The beans are cheaper. The coffee is phenomenal.

We also use a reuseable K-cup and paper filter cups. Amazing stuff and cheaper than buying ground coffee. Plus I get the roast I like instead of burned out coffee.
 
2014-03-11 12:12:42 PM  

BMFPitt: Coffee = Productivity


Coffee = Addiction
 
2014-03-11 12:19:00 PM  
Wonder if it would work here. Nearly everyone here has a "fark you I've got mine" attitude. Our location is known in the industry for being rude, unhelpful and uncaring. No one communicates with anyone else unless it's to biatch about something.

The few people who actually conduct themselves professionally have repeatedly complained about the hostile and toxic workplace but neither the manager nor the HR department will do anything productive because the bad employees' jobs are protected under a contract. As long as they don't do anything illegal on the job, they can't be fired.
 
2014-03-11 12:30:11 PM  
It is a gateway drug.
 
2014-03-11 12:35:09 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: BMFPitt: Coffee = Productivity

Coffee = Addiction


Coffee = Nectar of the gods
 
2014-03-11 12:43:52 PM  
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THIS IS MY COFFEE!  YOU'LL HAVE TO GET YOUR OWN, OHHH YESSS!!!
 
2014-03-11 12:54:13 PM  
Free coffee here at work (terrible but I drink it), also free soda, also recently a large box of energy-chocolates called "buzz bites" showed up in the breakroom.
 
2014-03-11 01:02:15 PM  

cig-mkr: Give them a coffee machine and the next thing they will want is free donuts.


Let them have their tar-tar sauce.
 
2014-03-11 01:29:51 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Plus it just sends the wrong message when you nickel and dime employees like that.


I think it sends precisely the correct message to you freeloading peons.
 
2014-03-11 01:30:07 PM  
We have a coffee machine that does the pods, not k-cups. Our boss supplies a variety of pods for us to drink, rotating the selection every order. It's all free.
 
2014-03-11 01:39:44 PM  
How the fark do you not have free coffee?

Heck, 2 of my 3 not-quite-minimum wage jobs had free coffee*, and the third didn't have an office.  Mind you, I don't drink coffee because I turn into a twitchy zombie, but that's just the default.

*Disclaimer: Both of them were stupidly early morning jobs
 
2014-03-11 01:41:00 PM  

cig-mkr: Give them a coffee machine and the next thing they will want is free donuts.


You mean not everyone gets free donuts?
 
2014-03-11 01:43:56 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: My office just ditched coffee and put in Keurig machines, telling everyone they have to buy their own. And bring your own sugar and milk. And they'll throw away your milk every friday, whether it's expired or not.

It's all pretty insulting, honestly. Plus it just sends the wrong message when you nickel and dime employees like that.


Our office supplies the keurig, the cups, the poddy things, green tea pods, packets of cocoa mix (with mini marshmallows) Half and Half, real sugar, fake sugar in pink and in yellow packs, lemon juice for tea, and tea bags.
WTF? And that is after huge cutbacks.
 
2014-03-11 02:18:56 PM  
  My entire company, worldwide, does not provide coffee/tea/soda.  They pulled out the coffee machines and coffee supplies and there was damn near anarchy.  So, they installed Keurig machines.  Provide your own supplies.

But, management still gets their company vehicles!  Can't deny them.
 
2014-03-11 02:29:43 PM  
You can give them free coffee, but you can't force them to make another farking pot when they take the last of it?


I get all stabby when BOTH coffee pots are empty.  My sign says "make coffee, not war" to remind me the boss hates it when I stab people.
 
2014-03-11 02:34:12 PM  
I'll bring my own coffee from home, thanks. Big whoop.
 
2014-03-11 02:43:30 PM  
Maybe- and this might be crazy talk- maybe companies that show a little more concern in things like the quality of the coffee are also overall more concerned with their employees' morale. Like, this is one of those metrics that you can use to determine really quickly what sort of a work environment you're looking at.

My current gig, we supply our own coffee (and if you bring in anything other than Folger's, people will look at you funny). Every Thursday, some of the proceeds from the snack bar buy us massive boxes of doughnuts. It's a pretty solid system overall.
 
2014-03-11 02:50:31 PM  
We have free Keurig and snacks in the break room, because showing a little appreciation towards employees goes a long way, and also because between the amount of time missed for people going on coffee runs probably added up to over an entire employee each day. I don't drink coffee, so it doesn't matter much to me. I would drink wine, but so far they haven't offered.
 
2014-03-11 02:54:55 PM  

vudukungfu: cig-mkr: Give them a coffee machine and the next thing they will want is free donuts.

You mean not everyone gets free donuts?



No, they get the Tootsie Rolls dug out of the kitty litter box.
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2014-03-11 02:59:42 PM  
Our office just got rid of coffee service and put in a vending machine. Now it's 35 cents for a cup of coffee. The uproar and outrage are hilarious.

/soda drinker
//won't drink that nasty mud even if it is free
 
2014-03-11 03:14:59 PM  
My office has free coffee.  It's crap.  So I brought my own coffee maker and a big bag from Costco.
 
2014-03-11 03:22:42 PM  
LET THEM HAVE THEIR TAR-TAR SAUCE!

Seriously. Same concept.

At a previous workplace ( I wont say the name, but it;s a Healthcare industry publisher that merged with an other market agency recently, based out of Phoenix), they refused to offer raises unless there was a promotion. Nothing! However they did have an "honor bar" with free coffee!! It made the plebes happy.

WTF ever.
 
2014-03-11 03:31:15 PM  
If you can't afford to provide free coffee to employees, you might as well just f*cking go out of business...
 
2014-03-11 03:32:37 PM  

untaken_name: The biggest workplace issue for people over 30 is people under 30.


Not if they a) know what they're doing and b) know when to listen.
 
2014-03-11 03:37:16 PM  
This is what gets me about a lot of workplaces. It takes so little effort to keep most workers happy. Little thingslike free coffee and the occasional pat on the back. That's all it takes.

I knew a guy who would give away a Homie, those little plastic people you get out of vending machine, to the hardest worker each day. People would go out of their way to win this little 50 cent toy.
 
2014-03-11 03:58:03 PM  
Wow, even my company hasn't gone that far, and they're cheap as shiat.

But even though we have free coffee, I can't break up with the coffee cart guy on the street who has mine ready for me every single morning.  I feel like I'd have to sneak around behind his back, and I just can't do it.
 
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