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2014-03-11 08:08:35 AM
Didn't whine, loved it.
 
2014-03-11 08:11:58 AM
It was awesome if for no other reason that it made flowers on me.
 
2014-03-11 08:17:43 AM

doyner: It was awesome if for no other reason that it made flowers on me.


tell me again about grandpa
 
2014-03-11 08:35:55 AM
I made so many flowers from ep. 2 I now have a green thumb and penis. Also, I loved it and glad they both lived.
 
2014-03-11 08:37:36 AM
I'm amongst the disappointed.  This crappy Contact Music article doesn't change that.
 
2014-03-11 09:53:34 AM
I'm taking LSD. Cohle inspired me!
 
2014-03-11 10:02:28 AM
Here is why it was awesome:

Alexandra Daddario (NSFW)

/in my bunk, I'll be in it
 
2014-03-11 10:05:52 AM

the profound ennuyeux


*facepalm*

'Ennuyeux' is an adjective, not a noun, Mr. Article Writin' Guy. Perhaps you meant 'ennui'.
 
2014-03-11 10:10:33 AM

Englebert Slaptyback: the profound ennuyeux


*facepalm*

'Ennuyeux' is an adjective, not a noun, Mr. Article Writin' Guy. Perhaps you meant 'ennui'.


That article is why you shouldn't let your eighth grader stay up to watch HBO on Sundays.
 
2014-03-11 10:12:51 AM
If you get the opportunity, you should make flowers on yourself.
 
2014-03-11 10:16:04 AM
That article was incomprehensible. The writer just threw in some big words from his thesaurus for no reason.
 
2014-03-11 10:21:32 AM
All I care about right now is what the "Secret occult history of the US transportation system" Pizzolatto is basing season 2 on. The first season took inspiration from the Ponchatoula satanism story, and he's said Southern California, hard women, bad men, etc. are the focus of season 2. So the only things I can think of are Rampart, The Crying of Lot 49 or the Devil's Gate Reservoir disappearances. Rampart doesn't fit with occult or the focus on landscapes, The Crying of Lot 49 could work, the Devil's Gate stuff fits in with the cosmic motif and the kid murders and occult, but it seems it would be a retread.
 
2014-03-11 10:23:24 AM
The only people whining are the people that were futily demanding that every single thing in the show mean something. As soon as someone pointed out The King In Yellow, they rifled through the book, or more likely the wiki summary, trying to shape their idea of the end of the show with that, hoping that it panned out that way so they could say "look at me and how much smarter I am than all of you pleebs."

Now, they don't get to do that, and they feel cheated. Game Of Thrones fans will go through the same thing when the show passes GRRM and they can't blab spoilers.
 
2014-03-11 10:25:27 AM
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2014-03-11 10:28:48 AM

Bareefer Obonghit: All I care about right now is what the "Secret occult history of the US transportation system" Pizzolatto is basing season 2 on. The first season took inspiration from the Ponchatoula satanism story, and he's said Southern California, hard women, bad men, etc. are the focus of season 2. So the only things I can think of are Rampart, The Crying of Lot 49 or the Devil's Gate Reservoir disappearances. Rampart doesn't fit with occult or the focus on landscapes, The Crying of Lot 49 could work, the Devil's Gate stuff fits in with the cosmic motif and the kid murders and occult, but it seems it would be a retread.


Huh, I didn't know you were capable of a post that wasn't dripping with sarcasm.  Good on ya, Bareefer Obonghit!
 
2014-03-11 10:29:01 AM

Bareefer Obonghit: All I care about right now is what the "Secret occult history of the US transportation system" Pizzolatto is basing season 2 on. The first season took inspiration from the Ponchatoula satanism story, and he's said Southern California, hard women, bad men, etc. are the focus of season 2. So the only things I can think of are Rampart, The Crying of Lot 49 or the Devil's Gate Reservoir disappearances. Rampart doesn't fit with occult or the focus on landscapes, The Crying of Lot 49 could work, the Devil's Gate stuff fits in with the cosmic motif and the kid murders and occult, but it seems it would be a retread.


But why even bother with the occult again? The draw of the show was how oppressive the atmosphere was to the point that people could plausibly see the ground opening up in a Lovecraftian apocalypse. Since it was just satanic rednecks, that hook won't work twice. It'll just be True LA Confidental Detective or something.
 
2014-03-11 10:33:08 AM

stoli n coke: they rifled through the book, or more likely the wiki summary, trying to shape their idea of the end of the show with that


anyone who actually rifled through the book would see it's immediate and limited connection to the show

the book is just a series of short stories with the common theme being the book/play "the king in yellow"

And that being; an arbitrary avenue by which to explore the edges of sanity and the dark 'cosmic horror' mythos (as vague as it is, in both TD and Chambers books, though less so in the former)

Which as it sounds, is exactly what the show will be; from season to season.

/made it half way through that book before I was too bored to continue
//read the first two stories and you've read em all
 
2014-03-11 10:33:42 AM

Three Crooked Squirrels: Bareefer Obonghit: All I care about right now is what the "Secret occult history of the US transportation system" Pizzolatto is basing season 2 on. The first season took inspiration from the Ponchatoula satanism story, and he's said Southern California, hard women, bad men, etc. are the focus of season 2. So the only things I can think of are Rampart, The Crying of Lot 49 or the Devil's Gate Reservoir disappearances. Rampart doesn't fit with occult or the focus on landscapes, The Crying of Lot 49 could work, the Devil's Gate stuff fits in with the cosmic motif and the kid murders and occult, but it seems it would be a retread.

Huh, I didn't know you were capable of a post that wasn't dripping with sarcasm.  Good on ya, Bareefer Obonghit!


I just audibly laughed at that, lol'd if you will.


Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Bareefer Obonghit: All I care about right now is what the "Secret occult history of the US transportation system" Pizzolatto is basing season 2 on. The first season took inspiration from the Ponchatoula satanism story, and he's said Southern California, hard women, bad men, etc. are the focus of season 2. So the only things I can think of are Rampart, The Crying of Lot 49 or the Devil's Gate Reservoir disappearances. Rampart doesn't fit with occult or the focus on landscapes, The Crying of Lot 49 could work, the Devil's Gate stuff fits in with the cosmic motif and the kid murders and occult, but it seems it would be a retread.

But why even bother with the occult again? The draw of the show was how oppressive the atmosphere was to the point that people could plausibly see the ground opening up in a Lovecraftian apocalypse. Since it was just satanic rednecks, that hook won't work twice. It'll just be True LA Confidental Detective or something.


I agree, but that seems to be what he's going with. The Devil's Gate stuff would make the most sense in this because it hits all the major points as well as people surmising that there is literally a portal that disappears kids in the area around the reservoir, so it would add that plausibility again.
 
2014-03-11 10:35:44 AM
I don't recall if they mentioned it more in detail on the show but:

Rust said he and his wife each blamed the other for their daughter's death. They lived at a house in a bend in the road. A car came around the bend and *surprise* kid in the middle of the road.

Was Rust driving the car?
 
2014-03-11 10:43:46 AM

Enlightened Liberal: I don't recall if they mentioned it more in detail on the show but:

Rust said he and his wife each blamed the other for their daughter's death. They lived at a house in a bend in the road. A car came around the bend and *surprise* kid in the middle of the road.

Was Rust driving the car?


I got the impression that he was, but now I'm not so certain.
 
2014-03-11 10:45:28 AM

Enlightened Liberal: I don't recall if they mentioned it more in detail on the show but:

Rust said he and his wife each blamed the other for their daughter's death. They lived at a house in a bend in the road. A car came around the bend and *surprise* kid in the middle of the road.

Was Rust driving the car?


I know a lot of people surmised he was driving the car but I'm not sure that's the case.  It was never clarified who was driving and I really don't think he was.  Many marriages break up after the death of a child, particularly if it was an accident.  Blame is pointed at each other and the marriage crumbles.  It happened to a friend of mine several years ago, his wife was driving the car with their son in the backseat, she was involved in a car accident and their son died.  The marriage didn't last long after that.
 
2014-03-11 10:45:38 AM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: But why even bother with the occult again? The draw of the show was how oppressive the atmosphere was to the point that people could plausibly see the ground opening up in a Lovecraftian apocalypse. Since it was just satanic rednecks, that hook won't work twice. It'll just be True LA Confidental Detective or something.


To the first parth ,I think that was the goal. And it will work twice.

I don't think Rust's last monologue is as happy-ending as others do. I think he's still viewing time as a flat circle, viewing consciousness as a inhibition and see's himself still trapped in that flat disc after he thought he'd been given his ticket out of.

He's definitely more at peace I think with riding out his fate, maybe even more optimistic, but I also think it's much more complex than "he believes in heaven now and everything is happy". There were layers of darkness to that experience as well.

What he see's after viewing the alter and what he see's as he's "dying" could be written off as a product of his drug-addled brain, but I think we the viewer are supposed to see a glimpse of this infernal plane and that we're meant to understand it is real.

So, I don't think it was just satanic rednecks.  On the contrary, I think the ending, to a degree, is supposed to validate Childress' and Cohle's paranormal beliefs. To show you there is a cosmic power at work (or lurking).

The hook not only will work again, they cleaned it up and put a nice new piece of bait on it.

/just my opinion.
 
2014-03-11 10:48:19 AM
I didn't "demand that everything in the show mean something". Just the big things. It also would've been nice if when the cops were telling Marty what they'd discovered at the Lawnmower Man's house, he hadn't said "I don't want to hear it", because I did. There were just a lot of dead ends, red herrings and dropped plot points. If they'd neatened them up and cut one of Rust's cool, nihilistic monologues, the story about meth head putting the baby in the microwave (I kept waiting for him to say Methy also put a turkey in the crib) and made something like green headphones and not house painting be the explanation for the green ears. Oh and the scars. They were barely visible and nothing that I'd call a defining feature. It'd be like if they'd said "The midget did it" and find out at the end that Marty is a midget but they'd used those Tom Cruise camera angle tricks to make it look like he wasn't until the last scene where he starts singing Lollipop Guild and stabbing everyone.
/Those first 5 episodes were perfection though.
 
2014-03-11 10:48:51 AM
I think there is some disappointment at the loss of Rust's rather endearing nihilism.
 
2014-03-11 10:49:58 AM

MurphyMurphy: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: But why even bother with the occult again? The draw of the show was how oppressive the atmosphere was to the point that people could plausibly see the ground opening up in a Lovecraftian apocalypse. Since it was just satanic rednecks, that hook won't work twice. It'll just be True LA Confidental Detective or something.

To the first parth ,I think that was the goal. And it will work twice.

I don't think Rust's last monologue is as happy-ending as others do. I think he's still viewing time as a flat circle, viewing consciousness as a inhibition and see's himself still trapped in that flat disc after he thought he'd been given his ticket out of.

He's definitely more at peace I think with riding out his fate, maybe even more optimistic, but I also think it's much more complex than "he believes in heaven now and everything is happy". There were layers of darkness to that experience as well.

What he see's after viewing the alter and what he see's as he's "dying" could be written off as a product of his drug-addled brain, but I think we the viewer are supposed to see a glimpse of this infernal plane and that we're meant to understand it is real.

So, I don't think it was just satanic rednecks.  On the contrary, I think the ending, to a degree, is supposed to validate Childress' and Cohle's paranormal beliefs. To show you there is a cosmic power at work (or lurking).

The hook not only will work again, they cleaned it up and put a nice new piece of bait on it.

/just my opinion.


That's exactly how I took the ending as well.  Rusts' attitude didn't change to sunshine and fairy dust, he's just accepted his fate and is moving on with a tad more optimism but his core belief is still there.
 
2014-03-11 10:51:57 AM

stoli n coke: The only people whining are the people that were futily demanding that every single thing in the show mean something. As soon as someone pointed out The King In Yellow, they rifled through the book, or more likely the wiki summary, trying to shape their idea of the end of the show with that, hoping that it panned out that way so they could say "look at me and how much smarter I am than all of you pleebs."

Now, they don't get to do that, and they feel cheated. Game Of Thrones fans will go through the same thing when the show passes GRRM and they can't blab spoilers.


I don't need you telling me what I think, thanks. I thought the ending was weak for a lot of reasons that there is no reason to rehash, but none of which had anything to do with the KiY theme.

Just accept that some people have legitimate reasons to have a different opinion than you and move on.
 
2014-03-11 10:56:18 AM

schubie: There were just a lot of dead ends, red herrings and dropped plot points.


Which is something detectives deal with every day. Do you think every lead pans out? One of the main ideas of this show was one of the main characters spending 17 years spinning himself into insanity chasing extremely elaborate theories when the answer was in front of them the entire time. Once they figured that out, there was no need to resolve everything else.

As Marty said, "We're not going to get them all, but we got ours."
 
2014-03-11 10:56:41 AM
Oh yeah : that article was incomprehensible babbling.
 
2014-03-11 10:58:09 AM
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2014-03-11 10:58:11 AM

otherginger: I think there is some disappointment at the loss of Rust's rather endearing nihilism.


Well it really isn't an ethos.
 
2014-03-11 11:00:34 AM

MurphyMurphy: If you get the opportunity, you should make flowers on yourself.


Funniest thing I've read in hours.
 
2014-03-11 11:01:20 AM
Why was the Spaghetti man painting a house with his ears?
 
2014-03-11 11:06:46 AM

Three Crooked Squirrels: I'm amongst the disappointed.  This crappy Contact Music article doesn't change that.


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2014-03-11 11:06:58 AM

sinner4ever: Why was the Spaghetti man painting a house with his ears?


So his hands were free to light the ricin cigarette.
 
2014-03-11 11:15:00 AM

stoli n coke: schubie: There were just a lot of dead ends, red herrings and dropped plot points.

Which is something detectives deal with every day.


LIFE kinda works this way, too.
 
2014-03-11 11:22:13 AM

stoli n coke: The only people whining are the people that were futily demanding that every single thing in the show mean something. As soon as someone pointed out The King In Yellow, they rifled through the book, or more likely the wiki summary, trying to shape their idea of the end of the show with that, hoping that it panned out that way so they could say "look at me and how much smarter I am than all of you pleebs."

Now, they don't get to do that, and they feel cheated. Game Of Thrones fans will go through the same thing when the show passes GRRM and they can't blab spoilers.


This.

I loved Lost (fark you), and I'm one of those people that didn't care if everything got answered.
What's with this generation that they think they DESERVE all the answers?
Sorry, snowflake but there's some things in life that you won't know. You make those up with imagination.
Get over it.

/Answers. Not yours.
 
2014-03-11 11:25:42 AM
Wow, glad I never bothered to watch this.
 
2014-03-11 11:26:21 AM
It looks to me like the light is winning.
 
2014-03-11 11:38:21 AM

Zombie DJ: stoli n coke: The only people whining are the people that were futily demanding that every single thing in the show mean something. As soon as someone pointed out The King In Yellow, they rifled through the book, or more likely the wiki summary, trying to shape their idea of the end of the show with that, hoping that it panned out that way so they could say "look at me and how much smarter I am than all of you pleebs."

Now, they don't get to do that, and they feel cheated. Game Of Thrones fans will go through the same thing when the show passes GRRM and they can't blab spoilers.

This.

I loved Lost (fark you), and I'm one of those people that didn't care if everything got answered.
What's with this generation that they think they DESERVE all the answers?
Sorry, snowflake but there's some things in life that you won't know. You make those up with imagination.
Get over it.

/Answers. Not yours.


Its not even that the DESERVE all the answers they want their own stupid theories confirmed about Marty being the killer, it to end w/ Rust watching a dvd or something POS idea that belongs in a David Lynch acid trip
 
2014-03-11 11:39:29 AM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Wow, glad I never bothered to watch this.


img.fark.net
 
2014-03-11 11:44:06 AM
I was hoping for more Cthulhu.
 
2014-03-11 11:46:24 AM
I'm two episodes behind, so I skipped reading this thread for fear of spoilers and bookmarked it for future reading.

So far, this show has been awesome, I've loved every single episode.
 
2014-03-11 11:49:18 AM

ShadowKamui: Zombie DJ: stoli n coke: The only people whining are the people that were futily demanding that every single thing in the show mean something. As soon as someone pointed out The King In Yellow, they rifled through the book, or more likely the wiki summary, trying to shape their idea of the end of the show with that, hoping that it panned out that way so they could say "look at me and how much smarter I am than all of you pleebs."

Now, they don't get to do that, and they feel cheated. Game Of Thrones fans will go through the same thing when the show passes GRRM and they can't blab spoilers.

This.

I loved Lost (fark you), and I'm one of those people that didn't care if everything got answered.
What's with this generation that they think they DESERVE all the answers?
Sorry, snowflake but there's some things in life that you won't know. You make those up with imagination.
Get over it.

/Answers. Not yours.

Its not even that the DESERVE all the answers they want their own stupid theories confirmed about Marty being the killer, it to end w/ Rust watching a dvd or something POS idea that belongs in a David Lynch acid trip


I never thought Marty was the killer. Really, after EPs 6 and 7 I doubt anyone did.

I never thought the KiY would appear and go BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA. I didn't expect answers to everything.

Y'all liked it; fine. I thought it was a strong show with a lot of suspense that turned into a Friday the 13th sequel for the last thirty minutes, and went out with a poorly executed and confusing whimper. I think Pizzolatto wanted a redemption story for Rust, which is fine, but he didn't know how to pull it off. A lot of people were confused about what actually happened at the end. That is not a sign of a strong ending.

It really says something that you guys have to make up straw man arguments for people who felt the ending dropped the ball. Thinking the ending was poorly executed doesn't make you an idiot.
 
2014-03-11 11:54:45 AM
I still want to know where Errol actually fit on the org chart.
 
2014-03-11 11:55:36 AM
And just to be clear: I figured Rust would probably die, and was glad to see they didn't go the obvious route. I think having him redeemed fits the overall arc of the story much better.

I just have issues with the muddled and tacked on way it went down.
 
2014-03-11 11:56:00 AM

gilgigamesh: ShadowKamui: Zombie DJ: stoli n coke: The only people whining are the people that were futily demanding that every single thing in the show mean something. As soon as someone pointed out The King In Yellow, they rifled through the book, or more likely the wiki summary, trying to shape their idea of the end of the show with that, hoping that it panned out that way so they could say "look at me and how much smarter I am than all of you pleebs."

Now, they don't get to do that, and they feel cheated. Game Of Thrones fans will go through the same thing when the show passes GRRM and they can't blab spoilers.

This.

I loved Lost (fark you), and I'm one of those people that didn't care if everything got answered.
What's with this generation that they think they DESERVE all the answers?
Sorry, snowflake but there's some things in life that you won't know. You make those up with imagination.
Get over it.

/Answers. Not yours.

Its not even that the DESERVE all the answers they want their own stupid theories confirmed about Marty being the killer, it to end w/ Rust watching a dvd or something POS idea that belongs in a David Lynch acid trip

I never thought Marty was the killer. Really, after EPs 6 and 7 I doubt anyone did.

I never thought the KiY would appear and go BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA. I didn't expect answers to everything.

Y'all liked it; fine. I thought it was a strong show with a lot of suspense that turned into a Friday the 13th sequel for the last thirty minutes, and went out with a poorly executed and confusing whimper. I think Pizzolatto wanted a redemption story for Rust, which is fine, but he didn't know how to pull it off. A lot of people were confused about what actually happened at the end. That is not a sign of a strong ending.

It really says something that you guys have to make up straw man arguments for people who felt the ending dropped the ball. Thinking the ending was poorly executed doesn't make you an idiot.


Looks like we found Armond White's fark handle
 
2014-03-11 11:58:07 AM

gilgigamesh: And just to be clear: I figured Rust would probably die, and was glad to see they didn't go the obvious route. I think having him redeemed fits the overall arc of the story much better.

I just have issues with the muddled and tacked on way it went down.


I can respect that.  The only really cheesy part that I think could  have been handled better is the damn green ears.  It made much more sense as a lot of people are saying, that the green ears were ear protection not a green house from years ago.  Other than that, I loved the ending.
 
2014-03-11 11:58:36 AM

FarkingReading: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Wow, glad I never bothered to watch this.

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Yeah, that hasn't gotten old yet....
 
2014-03-11 12:00:40 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: FarkingReading: DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Wow, glad I never bothered to watch this.

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Yeah, that hasn't gotten old yet....


lol, if there is one thing Fark loves to do is find a meme, and beat it to death.
 
2014-03-11 12:02:38 PM

ShadowKamui: Looks like we found Armond White's fark handle


Heh
 
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