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(Marketwatch)   31% of Christians giving up tech for Lent   (marketwatch.com) divider line 21
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2014-03-11 08:22:10 AM
Jeebus isn't returning for this very reason.  I'm sure he'd give a holy eye-roll to all the followers.  "Really? You are giving up facebook and your smartphone while I died for your sins".
 
2014-03-11 08:29:53 AM
My wife told me that one of her friends was going to give up facebook.
I proceeded to tell that that isn't really how it works, you're supposed to give up something that is difficult to give up, make it a challenge. Then I stopped and realized what I was saying.

/I was never a good catholic, so I gave that up years ago.
 
2014-03-11 08:30:31 AM
Personally, I gave up outdated religious rituals based on ancient middle eastern goat herder mythology. But that's just me.
 
2014-03-11 08:30:49 AM

jaggspb: Jeebus isn't returning for this very reason.  I'm sure he'd give a holy eye-roll to all the followers.  "Really? You are giving up facebook and your smartphone while I died for your sins".


The point of sacrifice during lent is to have a present reminder Jesus' sacrifice, and if possible, to use that time meditating on Easter. The size or shape of the sacrifice is irrelevant. I can also guarantee you that there are teenage girls out there for whom giving up Facebook and Twitter is tantamount to death.

No one (including Jesus and the church) expects you to go die for everybody else's sins. Giving anything up for Lent isn't even a requirement (of any church that I know) unlike similar things in other religions (Ramadan, Yom Kippur, etc.).
 
2014-03-11 08:35:01 AM
Jesus "I'm going to leave this crap hole my dad made and go home"

What a sacrifice!
 
2014-03-11 08:36:30 AM

Fubini: jaggspb: Jeebus isn't returning for this very reason.  I'm sure he'd give a holy eye-roll to all the followers.  "Really? You are giving up facebook and your smartphone while I died for your sins".

The point of sacrifice during lent is to have a present reminder Jesus' sacrifice, and if possible, to use that time meditating on Easter. The size or shape of the sacrifice is irrelevant. I can also guarantee you that there are teenage girls out there for whom giving up Facebook and Twitter is tantamount to death.

No one (including Jesus and the church) expects you to go die for everybody else's sins. Giving anything up for Lent isn't even a requirement (of any church that I know) unlike similar things in other religions (Ramadan, Yom Kippur, etc.).


Die? No. Jesus just said you should give all your wealth to the poor.
 
2014-03-11 08:51:13 AM

Fubini: jaggspb: Jeebus isn't returning for this very reason.  I'm sure he'd give a holy eye-roll to all the followers.  "Really? You are giving up facebook and your smartphone while I died for your sins".

The point of sacrifice during lent is to have a present reminder Jesus' sacrifice, and if possible, to use that time meditating on Easter. The size or shape of the sacrifice is irrelevant. I can also guarantee you that there are teenage girls out there for whom giving up Facebook and Twitter is tantamount to death.

No one (including Jesus and the church) expects you to go die for everybody else's sins. Giving anything up for Lent isn't even a requirement (of any church that I know) unlike similar things in other religions (Ramadan, Yom Kippur, etc.).


That may be but it doesn't make it any less silly.  I speak as a former Catholic until age 10 at which point I started thinking for myself.
 
2014-03-11 09:02:24 AM
I gave up christianity for lent about 35 years ago.
 
2014-03-11 09:05:06 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: Die? No. Jesus just said you should give all your wealth to the poor.


No he didn't. Read the context.

There's clearly an admonition to give to & help the poor (e.g. sheep & goats), but there's no general directive to "give all your wealth to the poor". In particular, the rich young prince's specific vice was his wealth. He loved his money more than following Jesus. That's why Jesus told  him to give all his wealth away. He didn't make a general command to everyone to give  all their wealth away.
 
2014-03-11 09:06:26 AM

jaggspb: That may be but it doesn't make it any less silly.  I speak as a former Catholic until age 10 at which point I started thinking for myself.


It sounds like you have a problem with the religion, but within the Christian system, Lent makes perfect sense, and giving up Facebook or social media for Lent also makes perfect sense.

Breaking news. People have different opinions than you. More at 10:00.
 
2014-03-11 09:10:07 AM

Fubini: jaggspb: That may be but it doesn't make it any less silly.  I speak as a former Catholic until age 10 at which point I started thinking for myself.

It sounds like you have a problem with the religion, but within the Christian system, Lent makes perfect sense, and giving up Facebook or social media for Lent also makes perfect sense.

Breaking news. People have different opinions than you. More at 10:00.


and yet I'm not trying to convince you that I am right.  You are perfectly free to have your faith.
 
2014-03-11 09:16:01 AM
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2014-03-11 11:12:32 AM

Fubini: Tyrone Slothrop: Die? No. Jesus just said you should give all your wealth to the poor.

No he didn't. Read the context.

There's clearly an admonition to give to & help the poor (e.g. sheep & goats), but there's no general directive to "give all your wealth to the poor". In particular, the rich young prince's specific vice was his wealth. He loved his money more than following Jesus. That's why Jesus told  him to give all his wealth away. He didn't make a general command to everyone to give  all their wealth away.


IIRC, he did ask that all of his followers give their money to his disciples.  Or at least that's what his disciples claim he said.  So televangelism does have roots in antiquity.
 
2014-03-11 12:07:36 PM
you do realize that if you give all your money away, then you are one of the poor.
but just try and take it back from them, boy do they put up a fight.
 
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2014-03-11 04:33:19 PM
My brother in law gave up beef for Lent. Last Saturday was the worst. barbecue. ever.
 
2014-03-11 04:35:03 PM
I gave up religion.
 
2014-03-11 05:46:57 PM

Farking Canuck: I gave up christianity for lent about 35 years ago.


I say this all the time. My girlfriend's super-Catholic mother was not amused.
 
2014-03-11 06:29:38 PM

llortcM_yllort: Fubini: Tyrone Slothrop: Die? No. Jesus just said you should give all your wealth to the poor.

No he didn't. Read the context.

There's clearly an admonition to give to & help the poor (e.g. sheep & goats), but there's no general directive to "give all your wealth to the poor". In particular, the rich young prince's specific vice was his wealth. He loved his money more than following Jesus. That's why Jesus told  him to give all his wealth away. He didn't make a general command to everyone to give  all their wealth away.

IIRC, he did ask that all of his followers give their money to his disciples.  Or at least that's what his disciples claim he said.  So televangelism does have roots in antiquity.


Christ specifically points out this as a bad idea - the "pay for play" type of religion. Pity basically every religion at the time had this as a model, and it's one of the prime signs of a cult to this day. The Catholics deserved the Reformation after a few centuries of forgetting that admonition.

/Honestly, I can't think of one now-defunct European/North African faith from that era that didn't embrace both that and occultation - Druidism, Phoenician, Cybelenism,  Greco-Roman,Traditional Coptic, Gnosticism*, and Mithraism* all had it. Hell, the first two demanded human sacrifice and the third mutilation in addition to massive amounts of wealth.
//*both post-Xian, but influenced by it
 
2014-03-11 09:18:25 PM

SurfaceTension: Personally, I gave up outdated religious rituals based on ancient middle eastern goat herder mythology. But that's just me.


You should have given up being a dick...that would have been more of a challenge
 
2014-03-11 09:34:13 PM

The6502Man: SurfaceTension: Personally, I gave up outdated religious rituals based on ancient middle eastern goat herder mythology. But that's just me.

You should have given up being a dick...that would have been more of a challenge


What's so dickish about trying to get people to release themselves from the mental gymnastics they have to get past the cognitive dissonance it takes to believe in that ancient goat herder mythology?
 
2014-03-11 09:57:34 PM

SurfaceTension: The6502Man: SurfaceTension: Personally, I gave up outdated religious rituals based on ancient middle eastern goat herder mythology. But that's just me.

You should have given up being a dick...that would have been more of a challenge

What's so dickish about trying to get people to release themselves from the mental gymnastics they have to get past the cognitive dissonance it takes to believe in that ancient goat herder mythology?


You have to ask what's dickish about evangelizing?
 
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