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(Huffington Post)   Number of uninsured in America drops. THANKS OBAMA   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 19
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837 clicks; posted to Politics » on 11 Mar 2014 at 4:25 AM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2014-03-11 05:27:04 AM  
3 votes:
I'm lucky enough to live in Florida where the sociopaths who run the state have turned down the Medicaid money.

So on my small income the smallest premium I can get through Obamacare is over $300 a month. No way I can afford that. I, along with 900,000 other Floridians am shut out of this whole deal.

Obama did screw us by not trying for a public option to begin with, but I can't fault him for the Republican assholes who turned down the money in Florida.

Now I am just trying to find out if I am still on the hook for the penalty for not buying coverage. It would just be insult to injury to not be able to afford insurance and watch a big part of my tax return get taken away.
2014-03-11 05:14:36 AM  
3 votes:
The GOP really screwed themselves over on this one, they could have embraced the Romney plan while Obama going with single payer and having a better chance winning the Health care reform debate. But no they went full looney with no alternative plan and Obama using the framework of Romney's Massachusetts plan as the Healthcare reform.

Now history is going to give Obama full credit for giving americans who could not afford it Healthcare while the Republicans will be notoriously known as the party who think that only the privileged should have insurance
2014-03-11 05:10:33 AM  
3 votes:

El Pachuco: The drop of 1.2 percentage points in the uninsured rate translates to about 3 million people gaining coverage... Gallup found the biggest drop in the uninsured rate was among households making less than $36,000 a year - a decline of 2.8 percentage points.

I have been assured by GOP supporters here that some jobs don't deserve healthcare (fast food etc.).  They don't seem to understand that they're really saying some people don't deserve healthcare.


I never understood why the GOP had to go off the deep end on their own principles just to oppose the ACA. They had previously been telling us for years that a universal insurance system would drive down costs because of precisely this reason - the costs of the non-insured (not payments) would go down and contain the over all cost of health care. Hell, their own Presidential candidate this last election implemented this system (with a lot of success) when he was Governor.

This is one time where I think the political pundits got it right. The GOP's short sighted tactic of attacking ACA to get a mid-term win, basically destroyed what should have been a massive achievement for their own candidate. It would have been a lot easier sell to America to say, "Let's fix Obamacare" and then point out that Mitt had some success doing something similar, than to just ignore the fact that this had happened entirely.

I mean, really, these guys are farking idiots. It's like they've actually forgotten how to even play at politics anymore.
2014-03-11 09:42:31 AM  
2 votes:

Tricky Chicken: Well, yeah. But I think ACA will get in the way.


I think it's a first step.  See how hard the right is fighting this patchwork corporate giveaway (calling it socialized medicine, even!), there's no WAY that actual single-payer would go through anytime soon.

But with a stopgap like the ACA, some people get health care in the meantime, and then addressing the problems with it migrates us slowly towards single-payer until it's more palatable.
2014-03-11 08:55:22 AM  
2 votes:

Tricky Chicken: Well, according to Harry Reid, you are a liar since all negative stories about the ACA are lies.


It's hard to classify that as a negative ACA story.

Before the ACA:  He had no insurance
After the ACA:  He should have had Medicaid
Twist: A Republican governor denied him his chance for Medicaid
Net result: He is neither better nor worse off than he started, except now he's pissed at Republicans.
2014-03-11 06:39:03 AM  
2 votes:

wesmon: Are you an Obamacare facilitator?

If not you should be. Thanks for the pointers.


I'm just a man with Google.
2014-03-11 04:47:18 AM  
2 votes:
The drop of 1.2 percentage points in the uninsured rate translates to about 3 million people gaining coverage... Gallup found the biggest drop in the uninsured rate was among households making less than $36,000 a year - a decline of 2.8 percentage points.

I have been assured by GOP supporters here that some jobs don't deserve healthcare (fast food etc.).  They don't seem to understand that they're really saying some people don't deserve healthcare.
2014-03-12 04:53:03 AM  
1 votes:

xtech: El Pachuco: The drop of 1.2 percentage points in the uninsured rate translates to about 3 million people gaining coverage... Gallup found the biggest drop in the uninsured rate was among households making less than $36,000 a year - a decline of 2.8 percentage points.

I have been assured by GOP supporters here that some jobs don't deserve healthcare (fast food etc.).  They don't seem to understand that they're really saying some people don't deserve healthcare.

sorry buddy, i dont support shiatbag republicans at all and thats what i think. you do a low-skill job and think you deserve everything. LOL. retirement i can understand since you can roll that over and employers dont have to match 1:1, but healthcare? people working fast food generally make minimum wage. the cost of healthcare would eat up most of that paycheck. 

you should be aiming to graduate from mcdonalds, not make it a career -_-;


cdn.theatlantic.com

Let me guess - you're still young enough to believe we all get to do what we want with our jobs & lives - "you could have been a brain surgeon, but no..."
2014-03-11 11:29:47 AM  
1 votes:

jigger: Well, farking up the entire health insurance industry was worth it then.


Lol... You're delusional.
2014-03-11 11:20:26 AM  
1 votes:

jigger: Let's get these same statistics about 3-6 months from now. People are still on the old policies that are being canceled. Many either cant' afford the new policies or will just drop out. So what we're looking at are the relatively few that have new policies mixed in with the people who haven't yet lost their old policies. Let's see if it holds up in the next few months.


jigger: Gallup found the biggest drop in the uninsured rate was among households making less than $36,000 a year - a decline of 2.8 percentage points.

Oh it declined by 2.8%? Well, farking up the entire health insurance industry was worth it then.


jigger: And this is all based on a Gallup poll, not actual numbers? 

fark. So those numbers are within the usual 3-4% margin of error on these things.


Pathetic.


That's a lot of butthurt for more people getting insurance.  Keep flailing away little man.
2014-03-11 08:47:23 AM  
1 votes:

wesmon: I'm lucky enough to live in Florida where the sociopaths who run the state have turned down the Medicaid money.

So on my small income the smallest premium I can get through Obamacare is over $300 a month. No way I can afford that. I, along with 900,000 other Floridians am shut out of this whole deal.

Obama did screw us by not trying for a public option to begin with, but I can't fault him for the Republican assholes who turned down the money in Florida.

Now I am just trying to find out if I am still on the hook for the penalty for not buying coverage. It would just be insult to injury to not be able to afford insurance and watch a big part of my tax return get taken away.


He and the democrats did begin by proposing a public option. Guess who opposed that?
2014-03-11 07:28:34 AM  
1 votes:
It wasn't all that hard because the US started with lots of uninsured people to begin with.
If we had left the Republicans in charge, only those making over 50k would have insurance.
2014-03-11 07:14:23 AM  
1 votes:

keylock71: That what happened with my crazy brother in law... Guy didn't have a pot to piss in, no job, but he's swallowed the libertarian/conservative bullshiat hook, lie and sinker. He was actually pissed off when the ER enrolled him in Medicaid after he had a mild heart attack. He still wont use the insurance to pay for his medication, choosing not to take it because he "can't afford it".


"I'd rather die than have the gubmint help me" is a pretty radical point of view.

I know he's married to your sister and all, but I can't help thinking that sometimes these problems are self-solving.
2014-03-11 06:45:35 AM  
1 votes:

MindStalker: http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/the-best-life/2012/07/13/how-the -h ealth-insurance-mandate-penalty-will-work
Note, these figures are for paying in the following year, so you'll pay $95 in 2015 for 2014 taxes.

In 2014, the annual penalty will be $95 per adult and $47.50 per child, up to a family maximum of $285 or 1 percent of family income, whichever is greater.
In 2015, the penalty will be $325 per adult and $162.50 per child, up to a family maximum of $975 or 2 percent of family income, whichever is greater.
In 2016, the penalty will be $695 per adult and $347.50 per child, up to a family maximum of $2,085 or 2.5 percent of family income, whichever is greater.


Correct, but there are a bunch of exemptions.  If you can't afford coverage, and you don't qualify for subsidies, then you *should* qualify for Medicare.  If Medicare wasn't expanded in your state, you can get an exemption.  Likewise there's an exemption if the cheapest available plan is more than 8% of your income.

The only people who should end up actually paying the penalty are people who can afford insurance but choose not to buy it, anyone who's poor enough that they can't get coverage will either get medicaid or will qualify for an exemption.
2014-03-11 06:26:38 AM  
1 votes:

SevenizGud: Number of people actually PAYING for said insurance remains the same, however.


This seems to be the new talking point from the Potato Party...

OK, people are signing up, even though we said they wouldn't, but they're not paying for it!"


Keep moving those goal posts, dumbass.
2014-03-11 05:46:03 AM  
1 votes:

wesmon: Now I am just trying to find out if I am still on the hook for the penalty for not buying coverage. It would just be insult to injury to not be able to afford insurance and watch a big part of my tax return get taken away.


You're free and clear.  According to the ACA site you qualify for an exemption if:

You were determined ineligible for Medicaid because your state didn't expand eligibility for Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.

Also if the lowest priced plan is more than 8% of your income.

https://www.healthcare.gov/exemptions/
2014-03-11 05:37:14 AM  
1 votes:

doloresonthedottedline: wesmon: I'm lucky enough to live in Florida where the sociopaths who run the state have turned down the Medicaid money.

So on my small income the smallest premium I can get through Obamacare is over $300 a month. No way I can afford that. I, along with 900,000 other Floridians am shut out of this whole deal.

Obama did screw us by not trying for a public option to begin with, but I can't fault him for the Republican assholes who turned down the money in Florida.

Now I am just trying to find out if I am still on the hook for the penalty for not buying coverage. It would just be insult to injury to not be able to afford insurance and watch a big part of my tax return get taken away.

I'm pretty sure I read something about not being fined if the lowest cost for coverage would be more than a certain percent of your income, but I'm not completely certain.


That does make sense and I hope you are right.
2014-03-11 05:33:24 AM  
1 votes:

wesmon: I'm lucky enough to live in Florida where the sociopaths who run the state have turned down the Medicaid money.

So on my small income the smallest premium I can get through Obamacare is over $300 a month. No way I can afford that. I, along with 900,000 other Floridians am shut out of this whole deal.

Obama did screw us by not trying for a public option to begin with, but I can't fault him for the Republican assholes who turned down the money in Florida.

Now I am just trying to find out if I am still on the hook for the penalty for not buying coverage. It would just be insult to injury to not be able to afford insurance and watch a big part of my tax return get taken away.


I'm pretty sure I read something about not being fined if the lowest cost for coverage would be more than a certain percent of your income, but I'm not completely certain.
2014-03-11 02:34:56 AM  
1 votes:
No one's mentioned acasignups.net yet?
 
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