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(WHAS 11 Louisville)   Convicted killer of 7 ordered to pay $500k in restitution. Oh, did I say "pay"? I meant "receive"   (whas11.com) divider line 21
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2014-03-11 01:01:02 AM
7 votes:
When I was a kid the LA police beat up a man named Rodney King. Shortly afterward King was shown in court laughing and smiling and my mother said, "You know what makes me sick? This CRIMINAL is somehow a hero!"

I said, "Well maybe if the LAPD followed the law you wouldn't have to see that."
2014-03-11 02:46:45 AM
5 votes:
...and now he has assets which his victims can sue for and obtain a judgment against.
2014-03-11 02:49:32 AM
4 votes:
Actually, what must happen next is for the families of the 7 victims to file a lawsuit for restitution. Granted, the families won't see anywhere close to the $500K, but it would keep it off of this asshat's books.
2014-03-11 01:03:19 AM
4 votes:
Wilson claimed that Degorski lunged at him and that he acted in self-defense.

This is why prison guards should be required to wear cameras when they're on the job. Cops, too.
2014-03-11 12:11:38 AM
4 votes:
I agree, it's asinine that a Cook County sheriff's deputy beat an inmate so severely he had to have metal plates put into his head.
2014-03-11 02:29:56 AM
3 votes:

jaylectricity: When I was a kid the LA police beat up a man named Rodney King. Shortly afterward King was shown in court laughing and smiling and my mother said, "You know what makes me sick? This CRIMINAL is somehow a hero!"

I said, "Well maybe if the LAPD followed the law you wouldn't have to see that."


Yeah, of all the people who ever deserved a beat down, Rodney King is up there.

But the cops' job is not to deliver said beatdowns. I have no trouble with this guard being punished.

What I do have trouble with is a guy who killed 7 people in a robbery attempt in 1993 being alive in any date past 1994.
2014-03-11 01:49:24 AM
3 votes:
Well yeah, you caught him, now you get to confine him. You don't get to beat the sh*t out of him, as much as you want to. And I don't blame you for wanting to, but you can't.
2014-03-11 03:30:43 AM
2 votes:
Seriously, I'm amazed anyone could have problems with this, except the Derp Brigade who thinks ass rape and regular beatings should be part of any inmate's daily routine. And given the number of frothing-at-the-mouth cop haters and prison-guard disparagers, you'd think the two camps would be split about 50/50. Prisoners have very few civil rights, but the right not to be beat to death by those ostensibly guarding them is one.

Honestly, there's no excuse for a corrections officer to beat an inmate unless he's fighting for his life; in which case said inmate should eventually be dead and said officer should be nearly so. In any prison, the tower or gun officer will see a fight and fire his warning round; and if that doesn't work, the next shot is the kill shot; and if the fight is going on outside the view of the gun officer, then the fight is to the death, and will end up so. This isn't jail, it's prison, and things are different--there ARE weapons on the tier, and the gun officers have the ability to use them preemptively. And out in the yard, there are no warning shots. (source: my best friend the CO, who has fired warning shots three times on his tier)

So if this douche beat a guy so badly he needed steel plates in his head, it was for his own amusement, and he deserves to pay.
2014-03-11 03:27:56 AM
2 votes:

StanTheMan: fusillade762: This is why prison guards should be required to wear cameras when they're on the job. Cops, too.

Yep. So we wouldn't get dumb bunny comments like this:

Fark It: I agree, it's asinine that a Cook County sheriff's deputy beat an inmate so severely he had to have metal plates put into his head.


Yes, that's exactly why, in fact. When there's no "cop said perp said" to police interactions, when the encounter is unambiguously documented, you cut down on both actual police brutality and frivolous police brutality lawsuits. Everyone wins except the thug cops and the criminal scammers, and fark them.
2014-03-11 03:08:40 AM
2 votes:
While I can't condone a prison guard assaulting an inmate without "imminent harm" provocation, I am certainly okay with this guy having his face broken.

As for the judgement, I can also understand awarding him a civil suit for the assault, but 500K seems...excessive. Although between legal fees and probable restitution to the families of his victims, I suppose he's not likely to see much of it.

I like the idea of a permanent cycle...break his jaw, pay him a hundred grand, award his hundred grand to the victim's families, break his jaw again, award another hundred grand...

"Honey, the roofing company are saying that they might go a little over their budget on the garage"

"Oh, alright, let me put in a call to the prison and have them rough up Degorski a little. What do you think, broken jaw?"

"They said it looks like the leak is spreading to the roof over the living room, too"

"Hmm, okay, I guess I'll let them know to take an ear, too."
2014-03-11 02:51:00 AM
2 votes:

jaylectricity: When I was a kid the LA police beat up a man named Rodney King. Shortly afterward King was shown in court laughing and smiling and my mother said, "You know what makes me sick? This CRIMINAL is somehow a hero!"

I said, "Well maybe if the LAPD followed the law you wouldn't have to see that."


Wtf? Was Mr King the aggressor? Did he disparage the VERY GOOD NAME of the LAPD? No? Then maybe your mom needs to lose the racism.
2014-03-11 07:43:10 AM
1 votes:
Approves (of the beating)

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2014-03-11 04:37:35 AM
1 votes:

Rat: Really don't need to beat someone that bad to have micro plates installed. A simple one punch and down bar fight will do it. Slamming into the steering wheel during an accident will do it. Sneezing too close to a hard surface will do it. Hell, we do it for cosmetic reasons just because of an underbite or a lack of 'cheekbones' or a chin.500k sets a bad precedent for anyone who wants to sue because they got facial trauma, regardless of the circumstance. Censure and fire the guard and pay for the prisoners bills.


I actually disagree. Similar injuries have netted people millions of dollars, frankly I think the fact that this guy is a convict already lowered the payout substantially.

Frankly, if he does get even more screwed on appeal, then we all know no one is going to cry over it because of his violent criminal past. Doesn't make it right or fair, but another thing we all know is that fairness as a concept is not something people generally apply in a fair way.

People are douchebags that way.
2014-03-11 03:52:50 AM
1 votes:

Rat: Gyrfalcon: Seriously, I'm amazed anyone could have problems with this, except the Derp Brigade who thinks ass rape and regular beatings should be part of any inmate's daily routine. And given the number of frothing-at-the-mouth cop haters and prison-guard disparagers, you'd think the two camps would be split about 50/50. Prisoners have very few civil rights, but the right not to be beat to death by those ostensibly guarding them is one.

Honestly, there's no excuse for a corrections officer to beat an inmate unless he's fighting for his life; in which case said inmate should eventually be dead and said officer should be nearly so. In any prison, the tower or gun officer will see a fight and fire his warning round; and if that doesn't work, the next shot is the kill shot; and if the fight is going on outside the view of the gun officer, then the fight is to the death, and will end up so. This isn't jail, it's prison, and things are different--there ARE weapons on the tier, and the gun officers have the ability to use them preemptively. And out in the yard, there are no warning shots. (source: my best friend the CO, who has fired warning shots three times on his tier)

So if this douche beat a guy so badly he needed steel plates in his head, it was for his own amusement, and he deserves to pay.

Really don't need to beat someone that bad to have micro plates installed.  A simple one punch and down bar fight will do it.  Slamming into the steering wheel during an accident will do it.  Sneezing too close to a hard surface will do it.  Hell, we do it for cosmetic reasons just because of an underbite or a lack of 'cheekbones' or a chin.

500k sets a bad precedent for anyone who wants to sue because they got facial trauma, regardless of the circumstance.  Censure and fire the guard and pay for the prisoners bills.


I'm guessing that will happen on appeal.
Rat
2014-03-11 03:50:26 AM
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon: Seriously, I'm amazed anyone could have problems with this, except the Derp Brigade who thinks ass rape and regular beatings should be part of any inmate's daily routine. And given the number of frothing-at-the-mouth cop haters and prison-guard disparagers, you'd think the two camps would be split about 50/50. Prisoners have very few civil rights, but the right not to be beat to death by those ostensibly guarding them is one.

Honestly, there's no excuse for a corrections officer to beat an inmate unless he's fighting for his life; in which case said inmate should eventually be dead and said officer should be nearly so. In any prison, the tower or gun officer will see a fight and fire his warning round; and if that doesn't work, the next shot is the kill shot; and if the fight is going on outside the view of the gun officer, then the fight is to the death, and will end up so. This isn't jail, it's prison, and things are different--there ARE weapons on the tier, and the gun officers have the ability to use them preemptively. And out in the yard, there are no warning shots. (source: my best friend the CO, who has fired warning shots three times on his tier)

So if this douche beat a guy so badly he needed steel plates in his head, it was for his own amusement, and he deserves to pay.


Really don't need to beat someone that bad to have micro plates installed.  A simple one punch and down bar fight will do it.  Slamming into the steering wheel during an accident will do it.  Sneezing too close to a hard surface will do it.  Hell, we do it for cosmetic reasons just because of an underbite or a lack of 'cheekbones' or a chin.

500k sets a bad precedent for anyone who wants to sue because they got facial trauma, regardless of the circumstance.  Censure and fire the guard and pay for the prisoners bills.
2014-03-11 03:29:36 AM
1 votes:

StanTheMan: fusillade762: This is why prison guards should be required to wear cameras when they're on the job. Cops, too.

Yep. So we wouldn't get dumb bunny comments like this:

Fark It: I agree, it's asinine that a Cook County sheriff's deputy beat an inmate so severely he had to have metal plates put into his head.

Do you realize a single punch in the face can cause you to require metal plates? People have been *killed* by one punch.

You sound like a liberal who's never been in a fight in his life, let alone worked in law enforcement with scumbags trying to kill you.

  So


one punch with these results doesn't count as a severe beating?   You're the one looking dumb here.
2014-03-11 02:55:25 AM
1 votes:

Obryn: JK47: ...and now he has assets which his victims can sue for and obtain a judgment against.

Hell, yes.

/It'll only take a decade or more to get a piece.
//Justice system at its finest.


The family's lawyers will be very happy with their settlement.  Afterwards, however, they'll have to go after the family themselves because it probably won't be enough for the lawyers.
2014-03-11 02:50:06 AM
1 votes:

JK47: ...and now he has assets which his victims can sue for and obtain a judgment against.


His victims are suffering from a bad case of being dead.  I think you meant the families of the victims.
2014-03-11 02:46:07 AM
1 votes:
Getting punched in the face daily should be part of his sentence.  If he doesn't like it, he could always opt for the proper punishment for mass murderers.
2014-03-11 12:29:26 AM
1 votes:
They can make their point on civil rights on other cases," Winters said. "There is a time and place for everything, when you make that point in light of the fact that these people have been brutally murdered, you are thumbing your noses at the families, you are hurting those victims again, no reason to do it."

Exactly. If everyone had equal protection of the law, then some people wouldn't.

There's a time and a place for constitutionally protected rights, and that time and place is entirely dependent on the whim of select people.
2014-03-11 12:00:08 AM
1 votes:
Well, that's a slap in the face of an enraged public ready to cry out that the killer should be thoroughly ass raped before he is executed.  And that public will be heard from shortly.
 
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