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(io9)   Remember that "Planet X" hidden in our outer solar system? Yeah, about that   (io9.com) divider line 77
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2014-03-10 06:25:43 PM
Well if they can't find it, I'll go with hidden.
 
2014-03-10 06:26:20 PM
That just confirms it's not in our system's orbit. It could still be a rogue planet swinging/floating through our galaxy, possibly destined to rock on through our sector again in time.

AND SMACK RIGHT INTO THE EARTH. BING BAM KABLOOWEY.
 
2014-03-10 06:27:24 PM
You can't prove a negative.
 
2014-03-10 06:27:55 PM

SpacePirate: That just confirms it's not in our system's orbit. It could still be a rogue planet swinging/floating through our galaxy, possibly destined to rock on through our sector again in time.

AND SMACK RIGHT INTO THE EARTH. BING BAM KABLOOWEY.


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2014-03-10 06:28:42 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com

Anunnaki, Biatches
 
2014-03-10 06:30:54 PM
I thought Pluto was Planet X.
 
2014-03-10 06:35:22 PM

Gunny Highway: I thought Pluto was Planet X.


It was Planet IX.  Then Neil deGrasse Tyson pimpslapped it down to Not-Planet F(_)ck You
 
2014-03-10 06:43:03 PM
There are no planets. We're all on dust motes floating around a lightbulb.
 
2014-03-10 06:43:25 PM
Ah yes, planet X. The obsession of my second favorite usenet kook of all time. Really, it's coming any day now! The poles will shift!
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2014-03-10 06:43:27 PM

phalamir: Gunny Highway: I thought Pluto was Planet X.

It was Planet IX.  Then Neil deGrasse Tyson pimpslapped it down to Not-Planet F(_)ck You


Actually, it was Dr. Mike Brown who had a big hand in "demoting" Pluto. It is still a planet. It is a Dwarf Planet.
 
2014-03-10 06:45:39 PM

Zeppelininthesky: phalamir: Gunny Highway: I thought Pluto was Planet X.

It was Planet IX.  Then Neil deGrasse Tyson pimpslapped it down to Not-Planet F(_)ck You

Actually, it was Dr. Mike Brown who had a big hand in "demoting" Pluto. It is still a planet. It is a Dwarf Planet.


I mean, wasnt Pluto referred to as "Planet X" at some point in its history?  I thought that is where the Looney Tunes Planet X came from.
 
2014-03-10 06:45:56 PM

Nix Nightbird: There are no planets. We're all on dust motes floating around a lightbulb.


Close, but we're actually all on electrons floating around a nucleus.
 
2014-03-10 06:49:40 PM

SpacePirate: Nix Nightbird: There are no planets. We're all on dust motes floating around a lightbulb.

Close, but we're actually all on electrons floating around a nucleus.


I am a public hair just circling the drain.
 
2014-03-10 06:54:51 PM
On Planet X, it won't be long now
I got a light year to get to the phone now
I'm gonna contact you when I get home

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2014-03-10 06:55:45 PM

Gunny Highway: Zeppelininthesky: phalamir: Gunny Highway: I thought Pluto was Planet X.

It was Planet IX.  Then Neil deGrasse Tyson pimpslapped it down to Not-Planet F(_)ck You

Actually, it was Dr. Mike Brown who had a big hand in "demoting" Pluto. It is still a planet. It is a Dwarf Planet.

I mean, wasnt Pluto referred to as "Planet X" at some point in its history?  I thought that is where the Looney Tunes Planet X came from.


I think it was called that by Clyde Tombaugh and others before it was discovered.
 
2014-03-10 06:57:54 PM
It's right here:

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-03-10 07:01:17 PM
What about Rupert? Is it still out there?
 
2014-03-10 07:01:59 PM
Old.  The new hotness is Blood Moons.

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2014-03-10 07:03:22 PM
Stupid scientists, we already have footage from the surface of Planet X...
 
2014-03-10 07:03:23 PM
Came for a Hammer reference.

Leaving disappointed.
 
2014-03-10 07:05:14 PM

IC Stars: On Planet X, it won't be long now
I got a light year to get to the phone now
I'm gonna contact you when I get home


*synth solo*
 
2014-03-10 07:18:46 PM
Clearly those liberal science idiots at NASA have no idea what their talking about. Saxgod saw Cosmos, and he knows the truth, man. You need to think OUTSIDE the solar system!

/the incorrect "their" was a deliberate homage to Saxgod.
//he knows, man!
 
2014-03-10 07:26:16 PM
It's called Eris.
 
2014-03-10 07:26:55 PM
I always thought the Nemesis hypothesis was more cool than planet X one.

/cool... not likely or believable
 
2014-03-10 07:34:31 PM
It got tired of all the publicity in changed its name to planet Z.
 
2014-03-10 07:55:00 PM

AcademGreen: Old.  The new hotness is Blood Moons.

[img.fark.net image 618x340]


Blood moon? What, wiped too hard before dropping trou?
 
2014-03-10 07:58:51 PM
There are only four planets in our Solar System.  Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune.

All other celestial bodies in the system are basically debris.

Juiter: 1.89813 × 1027 kilograms (317.83 Earth mass)  (more mass than all other 7 planets combined)
Saturn: 568.3 x 1024  kg (95.16 Earth mass)
Uranus: 86.81 x 1024 kg (14.54 Earth mass)
Neptune: 102.4 x 1024 kg (17.15 Earth mass)
Earth: 5.97219 × 1024 kilograms
 
2014-03-10 08:04:20 PM
No I don't remember that.  And I don't need some shiatty site like io9 to confirm it.
 
2014-03-10 08:12:34 PM
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2014-03-10 08:15:44 PM

StopLurkListen: There are only four planets in our Solar System.  Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune.

All other celestial bodies in the system are basically debris.

Juiter: 1.89813 × 1027 kilograms (317.83 Earth mass)  (more mass than all other 7 planets combined)
Saturn: 568.3 x 1024  kg (95.16 Earth mass)
Uranus: 86.81 x 1024 kg (14.54 Earth mass)
Neptune: 102.4 x 1024 kg (17.15 Earth mass)
Earth: 5.97219 × 1024 kilograms


Well sure I'll use random Internet guy's definition of a planet rather than the one used by the scientific community.
 
2014-03-10 08:28:51 PM
How else will we get the shaving cream element?
 
2014-03-10 08:30:07 PM

blastoh: I always thought the Nemesis hypothesis was more cool than planet X one.

/cool... not likely or believable


Nemesis sounds interesting.

Also is interesting is the idea of the "Red Star" from the Pern novels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pern#Thread
 
2014-03-10 08:31:39 PM

picturescrazy: StopLurkListen: There are only four planets in our Solar System.  Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune.

All other celestial bodies in the system are basically debris.

Juiter: 1.89813 × 1027 kilograms (317.83 Earth mass)  (more mass than all other 7 planets combined)
Saturn: 568.3 x 1024  kg (95.16 Earth mass)
Uranus: 86.81 x 1024 kg (14.54 Earth mass)
Neptune: 102.4 x 1024 kg (17.15 Earth mass)
Earth: 5.97219 × 1024 kilograms

Well sure I'll use random Internet guy's definition of a planet rather than the one used by the scientific community.


Ha ha! I don't mind. The joke is the astrophysics community knows there's no clear dividing line between "Earth-mass" planets and "dwarf planets", but there is a very clear one between all the dwarf planets and those four above. The dividing line is an arbitrary construct anyway, like what separates a lake from a pond.

Take a look at this, it's fun! There are 8 solar system bodies that aren't "planets" that are bigger than Pluto. Where does one draw the line?

http://kokogiak.com/solarsystembodieslargerthan200miles.html
 
2014-03-10 09:03:36 PM
How sad....
I was really intrigued when that FARK book told me it existed.....
 
2014-03-10 09:08:43 PM
They say no object the size of Saturn or larger exists out to a distance of 10,000 AU, and no object larger than Jupiter exists out to 26,000 AU. Pluto is about 40 AU from the sun

I do not know if I trust an astronomer who cannot find a single Jupiter sized planet out to 26k au, nor two Saturn size or larger out to 10k au
 
2014-03-10 09:13:31 PM
But Gor is still totes real!
 
2014-03-10 09:18:42 PM
Approve.
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2014-03-10 09:20:31 PM

SpacePirate: That just confirms it's not in our system's orbit. It could still be a rogue planet swinging/floating through our galaxy, possibly destined to rock on through our sector again in time.

AND SMACK RIGHT INTO THE EARTH. BING BAM KABLOOWEY.


Not in our solar system's orbit but in some kind of orbit in our galaxy that brings it through our solar system repeatedly? You know how A. mindcrushingly unlikely that would be and B. that it would take roughly 869,581 hojillion years to swing back around, right? I mean the galaxy is a big farking place.
 
2014-03-10 09:26:31 PM
That's because Planet X is a pop-culture obsessed alienated slacker of a planet.
 
2014-03-10 09:29:11 PM

StopLurkListen: Take a look at this, it's fun! There are 8 solar system bodies that aren't "planets" that are bigger than Pluto. Where does one draw the line?


Gravity is one of the characteristics that was settled upon. Pluto, Eris, Makemake, etc. all have binary orbits with their respective satellites.


StoPPeRmobile: Approve.
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Came for them, leaving satisfied!
 
2014-03-10 09:34:52 PM

Zeppelininthesky: phalamir: Gunny Highway: I thought Pluto was Planet X.

It was Planet IX.  Then Neil deGrasse Tyson pimpslapped it down to Not-Planet F(_)ck You

Actually, it was Dr. Mike Brown who had a big hand in "demoting" Pluto. It is still a planet. It is a Dwarf Planet.


A planet should be something you can walk on.

I personally think we should start a campaign to re-classify Jupiter and Saturn as "big dumb gay gas balls".

I mean, as revenge for the Pluto thing.

Anyone with me?
 
2014-03-10 09:36:25 PM

StoPPeRmobile: Approve.
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I just saw that a few days ago. Love that movie.
 
2014-03-10 09:37:32 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Zeppelininthesky: phalamir: Gunny Highway: I thought Pluto was Planet X.

It was Planet IX.  Then Neil deGrasse Tyson pimpslapped it down to Not-Planet F(_)ck You

Actually, it was Dr. Mike Brown who had a big hand in "demoting" Pluto. It is still a planet. It is a Dwarf Planet.

A planet should be something you can walk on.

I personally think we should start a campaign to re-classify Jupiter and Saturn as "big dumb gay gas balls".

I mean, as revenge for the Pluto thing.

Anyone with me?


The change was more of an academic clarification.
 
2014-03-10 09:40:56 PM

Zeppelininthesky: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Zeppelininthesky: phalamir: Gunny Highway: I thought Pluto was Planet X.

It was Planet IX.  Then Neil deGrasse Tyson pimpslapped it down to Not-Planet F(_)ck You

Actually, it was Dr. Mike Brown who had a big hand in "demoting" Pluto. It is still a planet. It is a Dwarf Planet.

A planet should be something you can walk on.

I personally think we should start a campaign to re-classify Jupiter and Saturn as "big dumb gay gas balls".

I mean, as revenge for the Pluto thing.

Anyone with me?

The change was more of an academic clarification.


Well so can be Big Dumb Gay Gas Balls. A simple academic clarification.
 
2014-03-10 09:43:42 PM

Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Zeppelininthesky: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Zeppelininthesky: phalamir: Gunny Highway: I thought Pluto was Planet X.

It was Planet IX.  Then Neil deGrasse Tyson pimpslapped it down to Not-Planet F(_)ck You

Actually, it was Dr. Mike Brown who had a big hand in "demoting" Pluto. It is still a planet. It is a Dwarf Planet.

A planet should be something you can walk on.

I personally think we should start a campaign to re-classify Jupiter and Saturn as "big dumb gay gas balls".

I mean, as revenge for the Pluto thing.

Anyone with me?

The change was more of an academic clarification.

Well so can be Big Dumb Gay Gas Balls. A simple academic clarification.


I would reclassify Uranus as a Big Gay Gas Ball.
 
2014-03-10 10:28:15 PM
If an astronomer says it doesn't exist, the history of astronomy pretty well guarantees that it definitely does.

Planet X is dead! Long live Planet X!
 
2014-03-10 10:44:19 PM
Well then from where will the Gamelons launch the planet bombs?
 
2014-03-10 10:45:13 PM

StopLurkListen: The joke is the astrophysics community knows there's no clear dividing line between "Earth-mass" planets and "dwarf planets", but there is a very clear one between all the dwarf planets and those four above. The dividing line is an arbitrary construct anyway, like what separates a lake from a pond.


Part of the definition should be that a planet's orbital plane is within a few degrees of the equatorial plane of its parent star. That's not arbitrary at all, and would, when coupled with hydrostatic equilibrium and clearing its own orbit, go a long way toward settling this silly debate.
 
2014-03-10 11:33:54 PM
There's a rogue planet somewhere in our Galaxy? Of bloody course there is; but considering the scale of the Galaxy, there's loads of room for a miss.
 
2014-03-10 11:43:10 PM

100 Watt Walrus: StopLurkListen: The joke is the astrophysics community knows there's no clear dividing line between "Earth-mass" planets and "dwarf planets", but there is a very clear one between all the dwarf planets and those four above. The dividing line is an arbitrary construct anyway, like what separates a lake from a pond.

Part of the definition should be that a planet's orbital plane is within a few degrees of the equatorial plane of its parent star. That's not arbitrary at all, and would, when coupled with hydrostatic equilibrium and clearing its own orbit, go a long way toward settling this silly debate.


Sounds like more mud in the water than an intuitive requirement.  The current requirements make sense.  There is a clear dividing line between a dwarf planet and a planet.  A dwarf planet has not cleared its orbit of other significant objects.  As a result, it is not significant within its own orbit.  This requirement, like the other requirements to be a planet, are non-arbitrary requirements of a significant relationship between the parent star, a significant mass, and significance within its own orbit.

The only real flaw in the system is that while the first two requirements can be proven or disproven by rather simple observations of the object, the last requirement becomes far less likely and significantly harder to prove at more distant orbiting objects. Despite this difficulty, being significant in your own orbit is a sensible stipulation for a title that is meant to define an object as a highly significant body within a star system.
 
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