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2014-03-10 06:51:49 PM  

hardinparamedic: bobothemagnificent: 4th, hey liberals: it was republicans that abolished slavery.  It was democrats that opposed abolishment of a despicable, vile, and unholy institution of slavery.  Think about that before you start bashing republicans or conservatives.  And if you point out that today's republicans are all racists, I'll point out to you that one of the longest serving Senators was a grand wizard of the KKK and a liberal democrat.

Grandpa bobo, tell us one more time about the fairy tale where the Southern Strategy never occured, and the Dixiecrats never joined and took over the republican party!


Not to mention that morons who try to argue that seem to forget the fact that it was conservative Democrats who wanted slavery. Conservative Republicans were on the fence about it, they certainly didn't hate it, and they decried Lincoln for taking "extreme" measures like making slavery illegal in the Union states and allowing his military to free slaves of any plantations they came across. Lincoln was somewhat moderate, very liberal. But don't let any pesky historic facts get in the way of modern-day GOP trying to prove that there's not racism in their midst.
 
2014-03-10 06:52:57 PM  

snowshovel: Maybe if you libs stopped foc using on the plight of poor man and spent more time dissecting real history films like Flags of our Fathers you'd understand the real history mullets of our country. But Yay. .. continue to ignore that people voted overwhelming Republican in the last mid terms and only last three Senate Thanks to Acorn.


Take your meds.
 
2014-03-10 06:53:32 PM  

hardinparamedic: bobothemagnificent: 4th, hey liberals: it was republicans that abolished slavery.  It was democrats that opposed abolishment of a despicable, vile, and unholy institution of slavery.  Think about that before you start bashing republicans or conservatives.  And if you point out that today's republicans are all racists, I'll point out to you that one of the longest serving Senators was a grand wizard of the KKK and a liberal democrat.

Grandpa bobo, tell us one more time about the fairy tale where the Southern Strategy never occured, and the Dixiecrats never joined and took over the republican party!


Lyndon Johnson could not get the 1964 Civil Rights act passed because so many southern Democrats were blocking it.  He eventually persuaded the Republicans to pass it.
 
2014-03-10 06:54:16 PM  
There needs to be a bingo sheet of people getting defensive when there's a discussion about slavery in the United States

"Most slaves were happy"

"Africa started it"

"Emancipation Proclamation not needed because slavery was going to fade out anyway"

"Civil War was over states rights"

"Whites were slaves In America, too"
 
2014-03-10 06:57:57 PM  

olddinosaur: hardinparamedic: bobothemagnificent: 4th, hey liberals: it was republicans that abolished slavery.  It was democrats that opposed abolishment of a despicable, vile, and unholy institution of slavery.  Think about that before you start bashing republicans or conservatives.  And if you point out that today's republicans are all racists, I'll point out to you that one of the longest serving Senators was a grand wizard of the KKK and a liberal democrat.

Grandpa bobo, tell us one more time about the fairy tale where the Southern Strategy never occured, and the Dixiecrats never joined and took over the republican party!

Lyndon Johnson could not get the 1964 Civil Rights act passed because so many southern Democrats were blocking it.  He eventually persuaded the Republicans to pass it.


I don't want to alarm you, but that was 50 years ago. You may need to get out moar.
 
2014-03-10 06:58:21 PM  
Ahhh the modern Conservative, trying desperately to point out that it's the Democratic Party that are the racists! not the GOP! as if having to defend reality is too much to bear.

it's awesome, they tell you Lincoln was a Republican! then emancipation proclamation! and it pretty much ends right there.... right where it should end, because if they went any further, they'd show how Republicans are the real racists AND THAT DOES NOT FIT THE NARRATIVE!

you know what they want to do is start off by saying African Americans are soooo stupid (but not exactly those words), they vote (D) when it was the (R) that set them free!   why, they should be voting (R)!!!!
 
2014-03-10 06:59:32 PM  

wyltoknow: hardinparamedic: bobothemagnificent: 4th, hey liberals: it was republicans that abolished slavery.  It was democrats that opposed abolishment of a despicable, vile, and unholy institution of slavery.  Think about that before you start bashing republicans or conservatives.  And if you point out that today's republicans are all racists, I'll point out to you that one of the longest serving Senators was a grand wizard of the KKK and a liberal democrat.

Grandpa bobo, tell us one more time about the fairy tale where the Southern Strategy never occured, and the Dixiecrats never joined and took over the republican party!

Not to mention that morons who try to argue that seem to forget the fact that it was conservative Democrats who wanted slavery. Conservative Republicans were on the fence about it, they certainly didn't hate it, and they decried Lincoln for taking "extreme" measures like making slavery illegal in the Union states and allowing his military to free slaves of any plantations they came across. Lincoln was somewhat moderate, very liberal. But don't let any pesky historic facts get in the way of modern-day GOP trying to prove that there's not racism in their midst.


Technically very few hated it as the argument at the time was about limiting it's expansion into the territories. Some in the South felt that Lincolns splinter group of Wigs and marginalized Democrats would force abolition, but during his run up to presidential nomination, Lincoln went out of his way to say he was not for abolition. Stopping the expansion though was just as bad to the Southern Elite, because without new markets for slaves, they stood to lose a farkton of money.
 
Ral
2014-03-10 06:59:49 PM  
I'm sure that there indeed were contented slaves and benevolent masters.  That does not, however, mitigate the evil of slavery.  If anything, that makes it all the more horrifying.
 
2014-03-10 07:01:21 PM  

serpent_sky: lockers: Is this what conservatives have been reduced to?

They're in the midst of a major outreach to minorities and women.


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2014-03-10 07:01:37 PM  

Cletus C.: Reading the comments here, I learned that this American Spectator piece represents what all conservatives believe. Usually farkers are good about picking up on such things. In clicking the author's name I see he is a movie guy, mostly.

In looking at his take on Nebraska, I was expecting nothing but praise for this all-white film of the highest order. Instead, I see this:

David's decision to drop everything and undertake this journey with his half-crazy parent is one of the weaker spots in Mr. Nelson's plot, like the defining but distracting sexual assault conviction of David's doltish cousin Cole (Devin Ratray), though less obtrusively so.

Now, the way they slipped in the sexual assault thing was brilliant, I thought, with the mother finally just laying out the truth later. Also, how the hell was that a defining moment in the movie? So, I have concluded that rather than being representative of all conservatives, this guy is representative of all bad movie reviewers.


I think your voice of reason will be lost in the wilderness that is subby's mind.

/slavery was an abomination, regardless of how it was practiced in different places. I can't be perturbed that a movie may have chosen a harsher, more shocking than average story that's what movies are for - they dramatize..
 
2014-03-10 07:02:11 PM  
I was rather surprised that most of the comments to the article -- at least the ones I read -- condemned the article and expressed pretty reasonable sentiments.  The site must be overrun by RINOs.
 
2014-03-10 07:02:57 PM  
Up for Inglorious Basterds II, where they go after the scum on American's own shore, and throw in a few scenes for all those racist agitprop mechanics -- something that might even elicit a little empathy as they watch their fellow "news reporters" turn into meat sauce.
 
2014-03-10 07:02:59 PM  
dailypicksandflicks.com
 
2014-03-10 07:03:13 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Remember that time when a slave owner sent a letter to his former slave, asking him to come back to the South with his family and work for him again? The letter that was sent back in reply was Epic beyond comprehension.

Dayton, Ohio, August 7, 1865

To My Old Master, Colonel P.H. Anderson, Big Spring, Tennessee

Sir,

I got your letter and was glad to find you had not forgotten Jourdon, and that you wanted me to come back and live with you again, promising to do better for me than anybody else can. I have often felt uneasy about you. I thought the Yankees would have hung you long before this for harboring Rebs they found at your house. I suppose they never heard about your going to Col. Martin's to kill the Union soldier that was left by his company in their stable. Although you shot at me twice before I left you, I did not want to hear of your being hurt, and am glad you are still living. It would do me good to go back to the dear old home again and see Miss Mary and Miss Martha and Allen, Esther, Green, and Lee. Give my love to them all, and tell them I hope we will meet in the better world, if not in this. I would have gone back to see you all when I was working in the Nashville Hospital, but one of the neighbors told me Henry intended to shoot me if he ever got a chance.


Check this, 140 years after the fact, these unreconstructed rebs are still biatching about it!
Prior to 2006, historian, Raymond Winbush, tracked down the living relatives of the Colonel in Big Spring, reporting that they "are still angry at Jordan for not coming back," knowing that the plantation was in serious disrepair after the war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Anderson
 
2014-03-10 07:03:19 PM  

Ral: I'm sure that there indeed were contented slaves and benevolent masters.  That does not, however, mitigate the evil of slavery.  If anything, that makes it all the more horrifying.


Nicely said.
 
2014-03-10 07:04:32 PM  

miss diminutive: Why didn't that liberal hack Spielberg not show us the other side of the Holocaust? Too busy with his own agenda, I'd wager. Eh, Mr Bowman?


SURELY there must have been SOME contented concentration camp inhabitants, no?
 
2014-03-10 07:05:42 PM  

bobothemagnificent: A few points here.  1st, the article is trying to point out that not every single slave owner that ever lived was as how they are usually portrayed in Hollywood.  In reality, and history DOES back this up, there were many slave owners that were just the opposite of what you see in Hollywood.  This is the problem of trying to portray a morality that is 250 years old in this country and longer in other countries.  In many areas of the country, including the North, mind you, people would have paid little to no attention to a single slave and slave owner.  It was common back then.  Not so much as in the North, but there were slaves and slave owners in the North.  Also, people from the South traveled with their slaves to the North all the time prior to the Emancipation Proclamation.  It's very difficult for us to even consider something as morally repugnant as slavery as being commonplace and accepted in society.  The truth is it was at one time.

2nd, Hollywood's job is entertainment, not telling accurate history.  I wouldn't expect accuracy out of Hollywood.  An accurate account isn't all that exciting most of the time.  Nor does it sell tickets.  It's great on a documentary.  Not so much for big box office hits.

The article is probably better placed in a more scholarly journal than in The American Spectator because, 3rd, whining about how liberal Hollywood is does nothing and will accomplish nothing.

4th, hey liberals: it was republicans that abolished slavery.  It was democrats that opposed abolishment of a despicable, vile, and unholy institution of slavery.  Think about that before you start bashing republicans or conservatives.  And if you point out that today's republicans are all racists, I'll point out to you that one of the longest serving Senators was a grand wizard of the KKK and a liberal democrat.

5th, the article doesn't support slavery.  It merely points out an obvious flaw in the telling of the story.  It's a no duh flaw, but a flaw none the less.  I ...


Apparently you have no clue what the word "liberal" means. Otherwise it's a nice screed against imaginary foes though, you play the victimized conservative well.
 
2014-03-10 07:05:57 PM  

FlashHarry: PunGent: That's sadly correct, even ignoring the vast slave markets in Africa; most slaves were initially bought from fellow blacks after being captured in tribal raids.

i was aware that tribes sold their enemies into slavery in west africa, which is of course abhorrent. but he was implying that american blacks owned slaves.


They did.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_(colonist)

/also wondering where all the Fark Independents are.  Are they ok?
 
2014-03-10 07:06:00 PM  
"Contend slave"/"Kind master" seems like "the exception that proves the rule."
 
2014-03-10 07:07:22 PM  

scottydoesntknow: When my mom was in her early teens, she got into an argument with my great-grandmother over this. My mom just found out that her great-grandfather owned plantations with slaves (he was a colonel for the confederate army).

Mom: Wait, so great-grandpa owned slaves?!
GG: Yes, but they all loved him!
Mom: Of course they did! They were forced to! I'd say I loved anyone if it meant I wouldn't be beaten or sold!
GG: THEY! LOVED! HIM! I WILL NOT HAVE YOU SAY OTHERWISE! *she starts shaking at this point*
Mom's mom: Shush. Don't agitate your grandma!

Apparently one of the ways of justifying having racist slave owners in your family tree is by saying all the slaves loved their masters and were treated so nice.


there is a free E-book floating around that is a compilation of first person narratives of former slaves that were collected by WPA workers.  What struck me is that many former slaves SAID at least that they were happy, and many resented the union soldiers that came through (though occupying armies are rarely welcomed) one in particular made it clear that he felt that as the slave of one of the richest man in town that he was of a much higher class than the "poor white trash" at the other end of town.

But two things struck me: one these were elderly people and slavery was their whole world so of course they absorbed cultural expectations of where they were raised, and the other is that even the ones who were happy we're utterly at the whims of their owners and subject to their fortunes.  If one was a piss-poor businessman, or had a crop failure or just felt like it, a slaves' family could get ripped apart or their whole world could change
 
2014-03-10 07:07:48 PM  

Isitoveryet: Ahhh the modern Conservative, trying desperately to point out that it's the Democratic Party that are the racists! not the GOP! as if having to defend reality is too much to bear.

it's awesome, they tell you Lincoln was a Republican! then emancipation proclamation! and it pretty much ends right there.... right where it should end, because if they went any further, they'd show how Republicans are the real racists AND THAT DOES NOT FIT THE NARRATIVE!

you know what they want to do is start off by saying African Americans are soooo stupid (but not exactly those words), they vote (D) when it was the (R) that set them free!   why, they should be voting (R)!!!!


Ah the modern Democrat, who has figured out that, since 45% of the population is non-white and naturally distrustful of conservatives, liberals should never miss an opportunity to use race-baiting to convince that part of the electorate that all conservatives are evil racists bent on keeping them down!! If you put half as much energy into working on the real problems, we'd actually be solving them, instead of falling behind.
 
2014-03-10 07:08:51 PM  

bobothemagnificent: 4th, hey liberals: it was republicans that abolished slavery. It was democrats that opposed abolishment of a despicable, vile, and unholy institution of slavery. Think about that before you start bashing republicans or conservatives.


Oh look, it's someone who doesn't know anything about history.
In a nutshell: during that time the Republicans were liberal and the Democrats were conservative.
The parties didn't become even close to what they are now until well into the 1930s.
 
2014-03-10 07:10:34 PM  
That was a movie review?
 
2014-03-10 07:11:12 PM  
From the folks who claim moral high ground.
 
2014-03-10 07:14:00 PM  

olddinosaur: Lyndon Johnson could not get the 1964 Civil Rights act passed because so many southern Democrats were blocking it.


Oh gee, racists in the South.  You don't say.
Except the votes were divided more by geography than by party.  Even then, Democrats outvoted Republicans FOR the Voting Rights Act in every single region.  Southern Republicans voted against it at an even greater rate than Southern Democrats (100%, in fact).
 
2014-03-10 07:14:38 PM  

vygramul: jigger: Mugato: Slaves didn't have to pay taxes, right?

Their income was taxed at 100%.

And yet they still worked, proving Laffer wrong.


Well, it helped that there was no minimum wage to penalize the job creators.
 
2014-03-10 07:14:43 PM  

Animatronik: Isitoveryet: Ahhh the modern Conservative, trying desperately to point out that it's the Democratic Party that are the racists! not the GOP! as if having to defend reality is too much to bear.

it's awesome, they tell you Lincoln was a Republican! then emancipation proclamation! and it pretty much ends right there.... right where it should end, because if they went any further, they'd show how Republicans are the real racists AND THAT DOES NOT FIT THE NARRATIVE!

you know what they want to do is start off by saying African Americans are soooo stupid (but not exactly those words), they vote (D) when it was the (R) that set them free!   why, they should be voting (R)!!!!

Ah the modern Democrat, who has figured out that, since 45% of the population is non-white and naturally distrustful of conservatives, liberals should never miss an opportunity to use race-baiting to convince that part of the electorate that all conservatives are evil racists bent on keeping them down!! If you put half as much energy into working on the real problems, we'd actually be solving them, instead of falling behind.


1) Republicans are not all racists, but there is no denying that there is a racist element to the GOP. If you think this is unfair, purge the doghistling bigots from the party(hell, sometimes they don't even dog whistle and balteyl espouse racists views) . Until this happens, the Republicans will remain an easy target on this issue.

"If you put half as much energy into working on the real problems, we'd actually be solving them, instead of falling behind."

2) Wow, this is rich. What exactly is the Republican agenda for doing anything but obstructing the president? The GOP simply has no discernible platform from what I can tell. for all the Democrats flaws (I am not a Democrat btw), at least policy and governance are ostensible goals for the party.

But it those Democrats (who are the real racists anyway) that are the problem somehow, amiright?
 
2014-03-10 07:14:54 PM  

FlashHarry: hint: if you're defending slavery, you're a farking racist.  Subhuman asshole.



FTFY
 
2014-03-10 07:15:23 PM  
To all you farkwits saying "Oh but there were some *nice* slave owners who treated their slaves well!"

If they treated their slaves well,

THEY WOULDN'T farkING OWN SLAVES BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE FREED THEM.
 
2014-03-10 07:15:29 PM  

WizardofToast: There needs to be a bingo sheet of people getting defensive when there's a discussion about slavery in the United States

"Most slaves were happy"

"Africa started it"

"Emancipation Proclamation not needed because slavery was going to fade out anyway"

"Civil War was over states rights"

"Whites were slaves In America, too"


To address your points:
1: The notion that slaves were happy was a common theme in the South but failed to hold water when the fear the South had pver slave revolts is pointed out. Very few, if anyone, today believe that most slaves were happy.
2: Nobody claims Africa started it. They do point put the active complicity of African tribes though. Speaking of American chattel slavery, it would be more accurate to da Europe started it.
3: Most did at the time believe that the institution would die out on it's own. They were wrong.
4: The civil war was faught over fisunion. Southern states seceded to protect slavery and the North went to war to preserve the Union.
5: I don't see how pointing this out as historical fact detracts from the horror of slavery as an institution.
 
2014-03-10 07:15:47 PM  

Gawdzila: bobothemagnificent: 4th, hey liberals: it was republicans that abolished slavery. It was democrats that opposed abolishment of a despicable, vile, and unholy institution of slavery. Think about that before you start bashing republicans or conservatives.

Oh look, it's someone who doesn't know anything about history.
In a nutshell: during that time the Republicans were liberal and the Democrats were conservative.
The parties didn't become even close to what they are now until well into the 1930s.


The people of the south changed parties that's all.
 
2014-03-10 07:16:34 PM  

Magorn: But two things struck me: one these were elderly people and slavery was their whole world so of course they absorbed cultural expectations of where they were raised, and the other is that even the ones who were happy we're utterly at the whims of their owners and subject to their fortunes. If one was a piss-poor businessman, or had a crop failure or just felt like it, a slaves' family could get ripped apart or their whole world could change


It seems something like Stockholm Syndrome.
 
2014-03-10 07:16:51 PM  

Nadie_AZ: 250 years? Aren't we at least 150 short? You think Christopher Columbus was using Spanish labor to find his gold? And if we include sharecropping, we can add another 100 years to that.

I understand why societies in the past used slavery- cheap labor to produce what couldn't be done other wise. Here in North America it was turned into a racial thing. Why THIS part of the argument has to be defended is beyond me.


I think Egypt may have beaten Europeans in North America to the punch on that.
 
2014-03-10 07:17:09 PM  

FlashHarry: wambu: just like there were blacks who owned slaves

i... don't even want to google that. care to back up that assertion?


Read about Anthony Johnson and specifically the Casor Suit.  The first American slave owner was a black man from Massachusetts.  And he is the one responsible for getting ownership of another human being legally recognized.
 
2014-03-10 07:18:43 PM  

hardinparamedic: bobothemagnificent: 4th, hey liberals: it was republicans that abolished slavery.  It was democrats that opposed abolishment of a despicable, vile, and unholy institution of slavery.  Think about that before you start bashing republicans or conservatives.  And if you point out that today's republicans are all racists, I'll point out to you that one of the longest serving Senators was a grand wizard of the KKK and a liberal democrat.

Grandpa bobo, tell us one more time about the fairy tale where the Southern Strategy never occured, and the Dixiecrats never joined and took over the republican party!


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2014-03-10 07:20:39 PM  
So I get this pop-up that said "Support conservative journalism .... yada yada yada ... Hillary derp derp derp" and it gives me only two choices: "Donate Now" and "No thanks". Where's the "F*ck You" button?
 
2014-03-10 07:23:26 PM  

Geotpf: This type of tripe definitely falls into the category of "stop talking about rape if you want to win elections".  Farking dumbasses.


conservative 1: *opens letter* well, looks like the folks in charge don't want us writing anything pro-rape anymore.
conservative 2: what!? well then what the hell are we going support!?
conservative 3: i dunno, we could support slavery.
all pundits: great idea!
 
2014-03-10 07:23:41 PM  

bobothemagnificent: hey liberals: it was republicans that abolished slavery.


THEN WHY ARE THEY THE ONES DEFENDING IT TODAY?
 
2014-03-10 07:24:58 PM  

bobothemagnificent: hardinparamedic: bobothemagnificent: 4th, hey liberals: it was republicans that abolished slavery.  It was democrats that opposed abolishment of a despicable, vile, and unholy institution of slavery.  Think about that before you start bashing republicans or conservatives.  And if you point out that today's republicans are all racists, I'll point out to you that one of the longest serving Senators was a grand wizard of the KKK and a liberal democrat.

Grandpa bobo, tell us one more time about the fairy tale where the Southern Strategy never occured, and the Dixiecrats never joined and took over the republican party!

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You seem rather defensive about this.

Let me pose you a question. Which party would have more to lose by actively eschewing the racist elements in its voting base?
 
2014-03-10 07:25:12 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: I just want to cockpunch the author for the phrase "We, forsooth!"

What a pretentious ass.


Yeah, I kind of stopped reading it right there.
Also the part where he was whitewashing farking slavery.
 
2014-03-10 07:26:21 PM  

kapaso: The people of the south changed parties that's all.


Not quite true; New Deal politics polarized fiscal conservatives and liberals in both parties, with the liberals joining the New Deal coalition with FDR in the Democratic party, and Republicans aligning against him.
 
2014-03-10 07:28:24 PM  
bobothemagnificent:

you're new here, so i'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

i'm not sure if you're trolling or just farking stupid - but you might want to know that there was a sea-change in political identification after the civil rights acts passed in the mid sixties. prior to this, the southern democratic party - the "dixicrats," as they were known - was largely a racist, segregationist institution with its roots in the old confederate south.

however, AFTER the passage of the civil rights acts, most southern democrats became republicans. jesse helms was a democrat at one time. strom thurmond too. so your digging up a dead democratic senator who apologized up and down for his unfortunate involvement in the KKK 60 years ago, doesn't really bolster your case any, d'you see?
 
2014-03-10 07:31:38 PM  

Callous: FlashHarry: wambu: just like there were blacks who owned slaves

i... don't even want to google that. care to back up that assertion?

Read about Anthony Johnson and specifically the Casor Suit.  The first American slave owner was a black man from Massachusetts.  And he is the one responsible for getting ownership of another human being legally recognized.


I'm going to assume that you have applied a particularly ignorant troll, rather than assuming you are too ignorant to have read the link you posted.
 
2014-03-10 07:33:05 PM  
bobothemagnificent:

btw, i'm not sure what the mcgovern pin has to do with anything. he was one of the most libbbiest libs who ever libbed. want to guess how many states he carried in '72?

don't bother; here's a map:
 
2014-03-10 07:33:48 PM  
www.270towin.com
 
2014-03-10 07:33:54 PM  

karmaceutical: Callous: FlashHarry: wambu: just like there were blacks who owned slaves

i... don't even want to google that. care to back up that assertion?

Read about Anthony Johnson and specifically the Casor Suit.  The first American slave owner was a black man from Massachusetts.  And he is the one responsible for getting ownership of another human being legally recognized.

I'm going to assume that you have applied a particularly ignorant troll, rather than assuming you are too ignorant to have read the link you posted.


I did that on purpose to see if anyone would actually read it.
 
2014-03-10 07:34:20 PM  

bobothemagnificent: [img.fark.net image 249x398]


You know that image is a photoshop, right?

Byrd publicly disavowed White Nationalism over 30 years ago, and his voting record supported that. You're going to have to find a better "but-but-but" when Conservatives still have publications like American Spectator running around.
 
2014-03-10 07:34:32 PM  

bobothemagnificent: hardinparamedic: bobothemagnificent: 4th, hey liberals: it was republicans that abolished slavery.  It was democrats that opposed abolishment of a despicable, vile, and unholy institution of slavery.  Think about that before you start bashing republicans or conservatives.  And if you point out that today's republicans are all racists, I'll point out to you that one of the longest serving Senators was a grand wizard of the KKK and a liberal democrat.

Grandpa bobo, tell us one more time about the fairy tale where the Southern Strategy never occured, and the Dixiecrats never joined and took over the republican party!

[img.fark.net image 350x356][img.fark.net image 249x398][img.fark.net image 297x119]
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Apparently the 60's never happened in your head.  You're arguing against a party based on what it did 40+ years ago, we're arguing against what a party is doing RIGHT NOW.  See the difference?  No?  That's okay.  I don't really think you could even if you scrunched up your face and thought about it really hard.
 
2014-03-10 07:34:34 PM  

Animatronik: If you put half as much energy into working on the real problems, we'd actually be solving them, instead of falling behind.


well then i suppose that the only problem we face today is that there isn't a sitting Republican President.

/this reply based on the shenanigans of the current GOP in congress.
 
2014-03-10 07:34:40 PM  

bobothemagnificent: [img.fark.net image 297x119]


Let's see, how about we break down that voting tally just a little bit?

The original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7-87   (7-93%)
Southern Republicans: 0-10   (0-100%)
Northern Democrats: 145-9   (94-6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24   (85-15%)

Oh look, the only reason that Republicans had a larger % of the vote was because of the overwhelming majority of Dixiecrats in the South, who mostly voted against it.  Racists in the SOUTH?

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Yet in both regions, Democrats still voted FOR the CRA at a higher rate than Republicans.
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